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1. Re: Squeeze > Wheezy upgrade problem. (Simon Iremonger (bblug))
2. Re: Squeeze > Wheezy upgrade problem. (Martin Moore)
3. Re: modprobe: bad line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed (Martin Moore)
4. Re: modprobe: bad line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed (Chris)
5. WAS modprobe: bad line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed NOW How
to add image to GRUB2 (Martin Moore)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 13:24:55 +0000
From: "Simon Iremonger (bblug)" <bblug@iremonger.me.uk>
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Squeeze > Wheezy upgrade problem.
Message-ID: <52EA52A7.4050908@iremonger.me.uk>
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> E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libgd-gd2-perl'. Please see
> man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#upgrading-full
See error mentioned.
Solution mentioned.
Also, worth looking at rest of release notes, they have actually
been helpful. =)
> Martin.
--Simon
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 13:56:37 -0000
From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Squeeze > Wheezy upgrade problem.
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Found that and it worked, cheers.
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(bblug)
Sent: 30 January 2014 13:25
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk; Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [bristol] Squeeze > Wheezy upgrade problem.
> E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libgd-gd2-perl'.
> Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details.
> (2
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.htm
l#upgrading-full
See error mentioned.
Solution mentioned.
Also, worth looking at rest of release notes, they have actually been
helpful. =)
> Martin.
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:20:20 -0000
From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'"
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, "'Chris'" <cshorler@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] modprobe: bad line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
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Do I need to do anything with update-initramfs ?
Or have I bypassed this requirement?
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From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
[mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Martin Moore
Sent: 30 January 2014 10:47
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk; 'Chris'
Cc: martinm@it-helps.co.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] modprobe: bad line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
OK, I had looked for other blacklists yesterday but didn't know about
initrd.
Using
http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/07/how-to-view-modify-and-recreate-initrd-i
mg/ I've removed the contents of the blacklist file (it still exists but is
empty)
and set the link /initrd.img > /boot/initrc.mynewimage
Still get the same error.
Martin
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris [mailto:cshorler@googlemail.com]
Sent: 29 January 2014 18:39
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk; Bristol and Bath Linux User Group; Martin Moore;
'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'
Subject: Re: [bristol] modprobe: bad line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
On 29 January 2014 16:02:24 GMT+00:00, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
wrote:
>
>
>Upgraded a Dell from squeeze to wheezy. Go to the reboot and it stops
>with the error
>
>
>
>
><http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=104868#p501288> modprobe:
>bad
>line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Google reckons it's the blacklist file. I've moved it but still get the
>problem. Help.
>
>
When you say stops, do you have a shell?
Did you check for other syntax errors in modprobe conf files?
Does the initrd also contain a blacklist?
Chris
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 17:38:39 +0000
From: Chris <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] modprobe: bad line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
Message-ID: <b2edf732-a036-4120-a5d5-b8a764fceddf@email.android.com>
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On 30 January 2014 14:20:20 GMT+00:00, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk> wrote:
>Do I need to do anything with update-initramfs ?
>
>Or have I bypassed this requirement?
Well I'm not a Debian user, on SUSE though (from memory as I'm also not in front of a computer), the equivalent tool calls a PERL module that updates the boot loader configuration to point to the initrd created. The one you symlinked is only booted as a last result. Maybe the same is true on Debian?
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
>[mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Martin Moore
>Sent: 30 January 2014 10:47
>To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk; 'Chris'
>Cc: martinm@it-helps.co.uk
>Subject: Re: [bristol] modprobe: bad line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
>
>OK, I had looked for other blacklists yesterday but didn't know about
>initrd.
>
>Using
>http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/07/how-to-view-modify-and-recreate-initrd-i
>mg/ I've removed the contents of the blacklist file (it still exists
>but is
>empty)
>
>and set the link /initrd.img > /boot/initrc.mynewimage
>
>Still get the same error.
>
>
>Martin
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chris [mailto:cshorler@googlemail.com]
>Sent: 29 January 2014 18:39
>To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk; Bristol and Bath Linux User Group; Martin
>Moore;
>'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'
>Subject: Re: [bristol] modprobe: bad line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
>
>On 29 January 2014 16:02:24 GMT+00:00, Martin Moore
><martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
>wrote:
>>
>>
>>Upgraded a Dell from squeeze to wheezy. Go to the reboot and it stops
>>with the error
>>
>>
>>
>>
>><http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=104868#p501288>
>modprobe:
>>bad
>>line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Google reckons it's the blacklist file. I've moved it but still get
>the
>>problem. Help.
>>
>>
>
>When you say stops, do you have a shell?
>
>Did you check for other syntax errors in modprobe conf files?
>
>Does the initrd also contain a blacklist?
>
>Chris
>
>
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 11:01:00 -0000
From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] WAS modprobe: bad line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
NOW How to add image to GRUB2
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
OK, found the problem - GRUB didn't have the new image listed so was still
booting the old one.....
I've booted the new one using a rescue CD, but need to add the new image to
GRUB2. Unbelievably I can't find how to do this!!
How to I add a new image to GRUB2?
Cheers,
Martin.
-----Original Message-----
From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
[mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: 30 January 2014 17:39
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk; Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [bristol] modprobe: bad line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
On 30 January 2014 14:20:20 GMT+00:00, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
wrote:
>Do I need to do anything with update-initramfs ?
>
>Or have I bypassed this requirement?
Well I'm not a Debian user, on SUSE though (from memory as I'm also not in
front of a computer), the equivalent tool calls a PERL module that updates
the boot loader configuration to point to the initrd created. The one you
symlinked is only booted as a last result. Maybe the same is true on
Debian?
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
>[mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Martin Moore
>Sent: 30 January 2014 10:47
>To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk; 'Chris'
>Cc: martinm@it-helps.co.uk
>Subject: Re: [bristol] modprobe: bad line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
>
>OK, I had looked for other blacklists yesterday but didn't know about
>initrd.
>
>Using
>http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/07/how-to-view-modify-and-recreate-ini
>trd-i mg/ I've removed the contents of the blacklist file (it still
>exists but is
>empty)
>
>and set the link /initrd.img > /boot/initrc.mynewimage
>
>Still get the same error.
>
>
>Martin
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chris [mailto:cshorler@googlemail.com]
>Sent: 29 January 2014 18:39
>To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk; Bristol and Bath Linux User Group; Martin
>Moore; 'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'
>Subject: Re: [bristol] modprobe: bad line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
>
>On 29 January 2014 16:02:24 GMT+00:00, Martin Moore
><martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
>wrote:
>>
>>
>>Upgraded a Dell from squeeze to wheezy. Go to the reboot and it stops
>>with the error
>>
>>
>>
>>
>><http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=104868#p501288>
>modprobe:
>>bad
>>line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Google reckons it's the blacklist file. I've moved it but still get
>the
>>problem. Help.
>>
>>
>
>When you say stops, do you have a shell?
>
>Did you check for other syntax errors in modprobe conf files?
>
>Does the initrd also contain a blacklist?
>
>Chris
>
>
>
>
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>01/29/14
>
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From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
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Subject: [bristol] modprobe: bad line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
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Upgraded a Dell from squeeze to wheezy. Go to the reboot and it stops with
the error
<http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=104868#p501288> modprobe: bad
line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
Google reckons it's the blacklist file. I've moved it but still get the
problem. Help.
Martin.
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 18:39:17 +0000
From: Chris <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>,
'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group' <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] modprobe: bad line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
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On 29 January 2014 16:02:24 GMT+00:00, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>Upgraded a Dell from squeeze to wheezy. Go to the reboot and it stops
>with
>the error
>
>
>
>
><http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=104868#p501288> modprobe:
>bad
>line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Google reckons it's the blacklist file. I've moved it but still get the
>problem. Help.
>
>
When you say stops, do you have a shell?
Did you check for other syntax errors in modprobe conf files?
Does the initrd also contain a blacklist?
Chris
------------------------------
Message: 3
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 18:45:29 +0000
From: Chris Simmons <cityofbristol@gmail.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: [bristol] Printers
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Hi all,
I've been lurking for a while and still hope to come to a meeting soon
(I will need dual boot advice shortly
as I need to run Win7 to continue running beta tests on MMORPG's -
have to upgrade from XP).
Anyhow: I have a couple of printers that any engineers out there might
be able to fix.
There's an Epson C48 that needs some love and care on the wormscrew or
pickup roller (virtually full cartridges
and two spare - T066 black and T067 colour),
and an HP PSC2210 all-in-one that has a green print problem - again
almost full cartridges installed and
spares. Additionally with this printer is a Fuji Finepix 6900 digicam
with a spare macro lens. Without the printer
this camera is no use to me as the memory cards are proprietary and
the only means of reading them is
through card reader on the printer.
Free to collector, but a donation to Bristol Horseworld or Bristol and
Wales Cat Rescue would be nice.
Regards,
Chris
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 18:47:42 -0000
From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'"
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, "'Chris'" <cshorler@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] modprobe: bad line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
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>When you say stops, do you have a shell?
Nope. Reboot into the squeeze kernel to edit the files.
>Did you check for other syntax errors in modprobe conf files?
Nope. A bit beyond me - or at least it was stuck in a data centre. It's at home now!
>Does the initrd also contain a blacklist?
I'll check and get back to you - off out now so will be later/tomorrow.
Thanks for your reply.
Martin.
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 10:47:09 -0000
From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, "'Chris'" <cshorler@googlemail.com>
Cc: martinm@it-helps.co.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] modprobe: bad line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
Message-ID: <187f01cf1da8$a2ff1110$e8fd3330$@co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
OK, I had looked for other blacklists yesterday but didn't know about initrd.
Using http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/07/how-to-view-modify-and-recreate-initrd-img/ I've removed the contents of the blacklist file (it still exists but is empty)
and set the link /initrd.img > /boot/initrc.mynewimage
Still get the same error.
Martin
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris [mailto:cshorler@googlemail.com]
Sent: 29 January 2014 18:39
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk; Bristol and Bath Linux User Group; Martin Moore; 'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'
Subject: Re: [bristol] modprobe: bad line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
On 29 January 2014 16:02:24 GMT+00:00, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>Upgraded a Dell from squeeze to wheezy. Go to the reboot and it stops
>with the error
>
>
>
>
><http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=104868#p501288> modprobe:
>bad
>line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Google reckons it's the blacklist file. I've moved it but still get the
>problem. Help.
>
>
When you say stops, do you have a shell?
Did you check for other syntax errors in modprobe conf files?
Does the initrd also contain a blacklist?
Chris
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Upgraded a Dell from squeeze to wheezy. Go to the reboot and it stops with
the error
<http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=104868#p501288> modprobe: bad
line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
Google reckons it's the blacklist file. I've moved it but still get the
problem. Help.
Martin.
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From: Chris <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>,
'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group' <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] modprobe: bad line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
On 29 January 2014 16:02:24 GMT+00:00, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>Upgraded a Dell from squeeze to wheezy. Go to the reboot and it stops
>with
>the error
>
>
>
>
><http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=104868#p501288> modprobe:
>bad
>line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Google reckons it's the blacklist file. I've moved it but still get the
>problem. Help.
>
>
When you say stops, do you have a shell?
Did you check for other syntax errors in modprobe conf files?
Does the initrd also contain a blacklist?
Chris
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 18:45:29 +0000
From: Chris Simmons <cityofbristol@gmail.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: [bristol] Printers
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Hi all,
I've been lurking for a while and still hope to come to a meeting soon
(I will need dual boot advice shortly
as I need to run Win7 to continue running beta tests on MMORPG's -
have to upgrade from XP).
Anyhow: I have a couple of printers that any engineers out there might
be able to fix.
There's an Epson C48 that needs some love and care on the wormscrew or
pickup roller (virtually full cartridges
and two spare - T066 black and T067 colour),
and an HP PSC2210 all-in-one that has a green print problem - again
almost full cartridges installed and
spares. Additionally with this printer is a Fuji Finepix 6900 digicam
with a spare macro lens. Without the printer
this camera is no use to me as the memory cards are proprietary and
the only means of reading them is
through card reader on the printer.
Free to collector, but a donation to Bristol Horseworld or Bristol and
Wales Cat Rescue would be nice.
Regards,
Chris
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 18:47:42 -0000
From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'"
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, "'Chris'" <cshorler@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] modprobe: bad line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
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>When you say stops, do you have a shell?
Nope. Reboot into the squeeze kernel to edit the files.
>Did you check for other syntax errors in modprobe conf files?
Nope. A bit beyond me - or at least it was stuck in a data centre. It's at home now!
>Does the initrd also contain a blacklist?
I'll check and get back to you - off out now so will be later/tomorrow.
Thanks for your reply.
Martin.
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 10:47:09 -0000
From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, "'Chris'" <cshorler@googlemail.com>
Cc: martinm@it-helps.co.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] modprobe: bad line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
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OK, I had looked for other blacklists yesterday but didn't know about initrd.
Using http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/07/how-to-view-modify-and-recreate-initrd-img/ I've removed the contents of the blacklist file (it still exists but is empty)
and set the link /initrd.img > /boot/initrc.mynewimage
Still get the same error.
Martin
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From: Chris [mailto:cshorler@googlemail.com]
Sent: 29 January 2014 18:39
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk; Bristol and Bath Linux User Group; Martin Moore; 'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'
Subject: Re: [bristol] modprobe: bad line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
On 29 January 2014 16:02:24 GMT+00:00, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>Upgraded a Dell from squeeze to wheezy. Go to the reboot and it stops
>with the error
>
>
>
>
><http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=104868#p501288> modprobe:
>bad
>line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Google reckons it's the blacklist file. I've moved it but still get the
>problem. Help.
>
>
When you say stops, do you have a shell?
Did you check for other syntax errors in modprobe conf files?
Does the initrd also contain a blacklist?
Chris
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Subject: [bristol] debian java 1.6.0_27
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I'm having problems with some java - it transpires that the far end (it's a
messaging system) only supports upto java 1.6.0_27.
I'm running Debian Jessie (wheezy had some problems) which has
java version "1.7.0_45"
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.4.3) (7u45-2.4.3-4)
OpenJDK Server VM (build 24.45-b08, mixed mode)
How do I install 1.6.0_27?
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Note running 32 bit on 64 bit h/w.
Did the update/upgrade to get the latest squeeze packages.
Changed sources to wheezy, then another update/upgrade.
However, apt-get dist-upgrade gives the following. It seems to be a common
error that has been fixed..
E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libgd-gd2-perl'. Please see
man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2
Bit of a showstopper! Any help gratefully received!
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I'm having problems with some java - it transpires that the far end (it's a
messaging system) only supports upto java 1.6.0_27.
I'm running Debian Jessie (wheezy had some problems) which has
java version "1.7.0_45"
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.4.3) (7u45-2.4.3-4)
OpenJDK Server VM (build 24.45-b08, mixed mode)
How do I install 1.6.0_27?
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Subject: [bristol] Squeeze > Wheezy upgrade problem.
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Note running 32 bit on 64 bit h/w.
Did the update/upgrade to get the latest squeeze packages.
Changed sources to wheezy, then another update/upgrade.
However, apt-get dist-upgrade gives the following. It seems to be a common
error that has been fixed..
E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libgd-gd2-perl'. Please see
man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2
Bit of a showstopper! Any help gratefully received!
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 09:52:55 +0000 (GMT)
From: Steve Woods <hopeless_hippy@yahoo.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LinuxLive 2014 15th March at the Pervasive
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To: "bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Cc:
Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014, 16:05
Subject: [bristol] LinuxLive 2014 15th March at the Pervasive Media Studio
Hi,
We are getting everything sorted and look forward to seeing some of you
on the 15th.
In case you are not aware, we will be showing 3 OS's, Mint, Ubuntu and
SuSe and 3 desktops using Live USB sticks which visitors will be free to
keep.
We have designed a flyer and would appreciate if you could publicise the
event in your work place or circulate amongst your many friends!?:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45909169/linuxlive-poster.content.v2c.jpg
It will also be on the LUG website.
Later in February we will be asking for volunteers to help at the event
for a couple of hours or more!
Regards
--
Peter H
Hi Peter
Nice work on the flyer.
I note from the flyer that a website has now been set up for the event. I had a look at it this weekend and was wondering when more content was going to be added, so that I can give the event some more publicity by blogging about it again.
Regards
Woodsy
------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:01:08 +0000
From: Marc Gray <marc.gray@gmail.com>
To: Steve Woods <hopeless_hippy@yahoo.co.uk>, Bristol and Bath Linux
User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LinuxLive 2014 15th March at the Pervasive
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I had hoped to get it done on the weekend, but alas, time is not my friend.
It should be done in the next few days.
On 27 January 2014 09:52, Steve Woods <hopeless_hippy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
> To: "bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014, 16:05
> Subject: [bristol] LinuxLive 2014 15th March at the Pervasive Media Studio
>
> Hi,
>
> We are getting everything sorted and look forward to seeing some of you
> on the 15th.
>
> In case you are not aware, we will be showing 3 OS's, Mint, Ubuntu and
> SuSe and 3 desktops using Live USB sticks which visitors will be free to
> keep.
>
> We have designed a flyer and would appreciate if you could publicise the
> event in your work place or circulate amongst your many friends!?:
>
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45909169/linuxlive-poster.content.v2c.jpg
>
> It will also be on the LUG website.
>
> Later in February we will be asking for volunteers to help at the event
> for a couple of hours or more!
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Peter H
>
> Hi Peter
>
> Nice work on the flyer.
>
> I note from the flyer that a website has now been set up for the event. I
> had a look at it this weekend and was wondering when more content was going
> to be added, so that I can give the event some more publicity by blogging
> about it again.
>
> Regards
> Woodsy
>
>
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Cc:
Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014, 16:05
Subject: [bristol] LinuxLive 2014 15th March at the Pervasive Media Studio
Hi,
We are getting everything sorted and look forward to seeing some of you
on the 15th.
In case you are not aware, we will be showing 3 OS's, Mint, Ubuntu and
SuSe and 3 desktops using Live USB sticks which visitors will be free to
keep.
We have designed a flyer and would appreciate if you could publicise the
event in your work place or circulate amongst your many friends!?:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45909169/linuxlive-poster.content.v2c.jpg
It will also be on the LUG website.
Later in February we will be asking for volunteers to help at the event
for a couple of hours or more!
Regards
--
Peter H
Hi Peter
Nice work on the flyer.
I note from the flyer that a website has now been set up for the event. I had a look at it this weekend and was wondering when more content was going to be added, so that I can give the event some more publicity by blogging about it again.
Regards
Woodsy
------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:01:08 +0000
From: Marc Gray <marc.gray@gmail.com>
To: Steve Woods <hopeless_hippy@yahoo.co.uk>, Bristol and Bath Linux
User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LinuxLive 2014 15th March at the Pervasive
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I had hoped to get it done on the weekend, but alas, time is not my friend.
It should be done in the next few days.
On 27 January 2014 09:52, Steve Woods <hopeless_hippy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
> To: "bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Cc:
> Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014, 16:05
> Subject: [bristol] LinuxLive 2014 15th March at the Pervasive Media Studio
>
> Hi,
>
> We are getting everything sorted and look forward to seeing some of you
> on the 15th.
>
> In case you are not aware, we will be showing 3 OS's, Mint, Ubuntu and
> SuSe and 3 desktops using Live USB sticks which visitors will be free to
> keep.
>
> We have designed a flyer and would appreciate if you could publicise the
> event in your work place or circulate amongst your many friends!?:
>
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45909169/linuxlive-poster.content.v2c.jpg
>
> It will also be on the LUG website.
>
> Later in February we will be asking for volunteers to help at the event
> for a couple of hours or more!
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Peter H
>
> Hi Peter
>
> Nice work on the flyer.
>
> I note from the flyer that a website has now been set up for the event. I
> had a look at it this weekend and was wondering when more content was going
> to be added, so that I can give the event some more publicity by blogging
> about it again.
>
> Regards
> Woodsy
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 09:52:31 +0000
From: Chris <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LinuxLive 2014 15th March at the Pervasive
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Angelo Danio <angelo.danio@gmail.com> wrote:
>> We have designed a flyer and would appreciate if you could publicise
>the
>> event in your work place or circulate amongst your many friends!?:
>>
>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45909169/linuxlive-poster.content.v2c.jpg
>
>For sure I will, only in one thing I disagree : "Got an old PC, need a
>fast PC" people will think to resurrect paleolithic hardware. Also
>Linux to be competitive with other OS need a decent hardware, if you
>want watch youtube, stream music, fast boot etc. We are not a
>community of vintage hardware! The message to pass in my opinion is
>"free, libre and open"
>angelo
>
It's a bit late to keep debating!
A piece of hardware that was purchased running Windows XP can now be considered "old", it will for the most part do what we want it to with a modern Linux distribution.
Chris
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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 10:05:34 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] LinuxLive 2014 15th March at the Pervasive
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On 25/01/14 22:50, Ian Plain wrote:
> I agree fully with Angelo, TBH running like for like applications you need
> the same hardware.
>
> I think it would have been better to have focused on applications , when
> users see they can use a free office application on their existing PC they
> then don't see an issue migrating to a different OS, moving people to a new
> OS and then telling them , no you can't use word outlook excel publisher
> project means they say no thanks but showing people libreoffice opens and
> saves their documents they can use scribus for DTP and libreproj instead of
> project on their old OS and new Linux OS means the barrier to change is
> removed
> just my 2p worth.
FYI we spent a few hours discussing the above and decided to assume
visitors would not bring unsuitable very old H/W. We will also have S/W
to diagnose unsuitable H/W and will advise against installation if
necessary. We also hope to have handouts on various applications that
are on our 3 remixes with "helpers" who can sow their use.
Rightly or wrongly we assumed few people will arrive with antiquated H/W
and decided we would not offer another more suitable cut-down OS.
Even in our small group we had quit big differences of opinions but we
had to move on and make decisions otherwise there would be no event!
Of course if other members of the LUG want to hold a further event with
different aims, they are welcome to do so.
PS just saw Chris's reply but still thought this relevent!
Regards
--
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 09:52:31 +0000
From: Chris <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LinuxLive 2014 15th March at the Pervasive
Media Studio
Message-ID: <a1c91aff-259b-469b-b157-d629cad7b260@email.android.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Angelo Danio <angelo.danio@gmail.com> wrote:
>> We have designed a flyer and would appreciate if you could publicise
>the
>> event in your work place or circulate amongst your many friends!?:
>>
>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45909169/linuxlive-poster.content.v2c.jpg
>
>For sure I will, only in one thing I disagree : "Got an old PC, need a
>fast PC" people will think to resurrect paleolithic hardware. Also
>Linux to be competitive with other OS need a decent hardware, if you
>want watch youtube, stream music, fast boot etc. We are not a
>community of vintage hardware! The message to pass in my opinion is
>"free, libre and open"
>angelo
>
It's a bit late to keep debating!
A piece of hardware that was purchased running Windows XP can now be considered "old", it will for the most part do what we want it to with a modern Linux distribution.
Chris
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 10:05:34 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] LinuxLive 2014 15th March at the Pervasive
Media Studio
Message-ID: <52E4DDEE.1010604@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
On 25/01/14 22:50, Ian Plain wrote:
> I agree fully with Angelo, TBH running like for like applications you need
> the same hardware.
>
> I think it would have been better to have focused on applications , when
> users see they can use a free office application on their existing PC they
> then don't see an issue migrating to a different OS, moving people to a new
> OS and then telling them , no you can't use word outlook excel publisher
> project means they say no thanks but showing people libreoffice opens and
> saves their documents they can use scribus for DTP and libreproj instead of
> project on their old OS and new Linux OS means the barrier to change is
> removed
> just my 2p worth.
FYI we spent a few hours discussing the above and decided to assume
visitors would not bring unsuitable very old H/W. We will also have S/W
to diagnose unsuitable H/W and will advise against installation if
necessary. We also hope to have handouts on various applications that
are on our 3 remixes with "helpers" who can sow their use.
Rightly or wrongly we assumed few people will arrive with antiquated H/W
and decided we would not offer another more suitable cut-down OS.
Even in our small group we had quit big differences of opinions but we
had to move on and make decisions otherwise there would be no event!
Of course if other members of the LUG want to hold a further event with
different aims, they are welcome to do so.
PS just saw Chris's reply but still thought this relevent!
Regards
--
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 16:05:21 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: "bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] LinuxLive 2014 15th March at the Pervasive Media
Studio
Message-ID: <52E3E0C1.4010002@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi,
We are getting everything sorted and look forward to seeing some of you
on the 15th.
In case you are not aware, we will be showing 3 OS's, Mint, Ubuntu and
SuSe and 3 desktops using Live USB sticks which visitors will be free to
keep.
We have designed a flyer and would appreciate if you could publicise the
event in your work place or circulate amongst your many friends!?:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45909169/linuxlive-poster.content.v2c.jpg
It will also be on the LUG website.
Later in February we will be asking for volunteers to help at the event
for a couple of hours or more!
Regards
--
Peter H
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 21:40:37 +0000 (GMT)
From: Steve Plenty <steve.plenty@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LinuxLive 2014 15th March at the Pervasive
Media Studio
Message-ID:
<1390686037.96480.YahooMailIosMobile@web28903.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi peter, please can you send me some information on this event it sounds good and i would like to go to it. <br/><br/>Steve plenty keep it free, keep it open source! <br/> <a href="http://overview.mail.yahoo.com?.src=iOS"><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a>
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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 22:09:42 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LinuxLive 2014 15th March at the Pervasive
Media Studio
Message-ID: <52E43626.4080108@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
On 25/01/14 21:40, Steve Plenty wrote:
> Hi peter, please can you send me some information on this event it
> sounds good and i would like to go to it.
Not too much to say, date time & place is on the flyer.
The Pervasive Media Studio access is between the Cafe and Bar of the
"Watershed".
We have 3 areas a "Meeting Room" with sample videos of the three OS's,
an "Open Lounge" area with fully installed systems to play on (faster
than a live usb stick), there people can decide which OS they want to
try, they will then be given a stick to try in the "Main Area".
"Helpers" will be on hand in all areas but we do not intend installing
on to HD's unless we have the time!
The live sticks can be taken home and install if required.
Live OS's normally have an "Install To HD" icon which allows the OS to
be installed without problems. The 3 distros have been remixed to fit
on to the 1GB sticks. They will have all the S/W for basic desktop
use/demonstration.
We will also have handouts on the 3 OS's and other relevant S/W together
with guides and "freebies".
>
> Steve plenty keep it free, keep it open source!
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <http://overview.mail.yahoo.com?.src=iOS>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: * Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>;
> *To: * bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>;
> *Subject: * [bristol] LinuxLive 2014 15th March at the Pervasive Media
> Studio
> *Sent: * Sat, Jan 25, 2014 4:05:21 PM
>
> Hi,
>
> We are getting everything sorted and look forward to seeing some of you
> on the 15th.
>
> In case you are not aware, we will be showing 3 OS's, Mint, Ubuntu and
> SuSe and 3 desktops using Live USB sticks which visitors will be free to
> keep.
>
> We have designed a flyer and would appreciate if you could publicise the
> event in your work place or circulate amongst your many friends!?:
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45909169/linuxlive-poster.content.v2c.jpg
>
> It will also be on the LUG website.
>
> Later in February we will be asking for volunteers to help at the event
> for a couple of hours or more!
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Peter H
>
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I hope that gives you a flavour!
I will be on leave from next Tuesday so post back to the list if you any
queries after then.
Regards
--
Peter H
------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 23:13:43 +0100
From: Angelo Danio <angelo.danio@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LinuxLive 2014 15th March at the Pervasive
Media Studio
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> We have designed a flyer and would appreciate if you could publicise the
> event in your work place or circulate amongst your many friends!?:
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45909169/linuxlive-poster.content.v2c.jpg
For sure I will, only in one thing I disagree : "Got an old PC, need a
fast PC" people will think to resurrect paleolithic hardware. Also
Linux to be competitive with other OS need a decent hardware, if you
want watch youtube, stream music, fast boot etc. We are not a
community of vintage hardware! The message to pass in my opinion is
"free, libre and open"
angelo
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 22:50:54 +0000
From: Ian Plain <ian@cyber-cottage.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LinuxLive 2014 15th March at the Pervasive
Media Studio
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I agree fully with Angelo, TBH running like for like applications you need
the same hardware.
I think it would have been better to have focused on applications , when
users see they can use a free office application on their existing PC they
then don't see an issue migrating to a different OS, moving people to a new
OS and then telling them , no you can't use word outlook excel publisher
project means they say no thanks but showing people libreoffice opens and
saves their documents they can use scribus for DTP and libreproj instead of
project on their old OS and new Linux OS means the barrier to change is
removed
just my 2p worth.
oh and was there a prize for using the most font sizes ?
On Saturday, January 25, 2014, Angelo Danio <angelo.danio@gmail.com> wrote:
> > We have designed a flyer and would appreciate if you could publicise the
> > event in your work place or circulate amongst your many friends!?:
> >
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45909169/linuxlive-poster.content.v2c.jpg
>
> For sure I will, only in one thing I disagree : "Got an old PC, need a
> fast PC" people will think to resurrect paleolithic hardware. Also
> Linux to be competitive with other OS need a decent hardware, if you
> want watch youtube, stream music, fast boot etc. We are not a
> community of vintage hardware! The message to pass in my opinion is
> "free, libre and open"
> angelo
>
> _______________________________________________
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> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
>
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 16:05:21 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: "bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] LinuxLive 2014 15th March at the Pervasive Media
Studio
Message-ID: <52E3E0C1.4010002@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi,
We are getting everything sorted and look forward to seeing some of you
on the 15th.
In case you are not aware, we will be showing 3 OS's, Mint, Ubuntu and
SuSe and 3 desktops using Live USB sticks which visitors will be free to
keep.
We have designed a flyer and would appreciate if you could publicise the
event in your work place or circulate amongst your many friends!?:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45909169/linuxlive-poster.content.v2c.jpg
It will also be on the LUG website.
Later in February we will be asking for volunteers to help at the event
for a couple of hours or more!
Regards
--
Peter H
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 21:40:37 +0000 (GMT)
From: Steve Plenty <steve.plenty@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LinuxLive 2014 15th March at the Pervasive
Media Studio
Message-ID:
<1390686037.96480.YahooMailIosMobile@web28903.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi peter, please can you send me some information on this event it sounds good and i would like to go to it. <br/><br/>Steve plenty keep it free, keep it open source! <br/> <a href="http://overview.mail.yahoo.com?.src=iOS"><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a>
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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 22:09:42 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LinuxLive 2014 15th March at the Pervasive
Media Studio
Message-ID: <52E43626.4080108@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
On 25/01/14 21:40, Steve Plenty wrote:
> Hi peter, please can you send me some information on this event it
> sounds good and i would like to go to it.
Not too much to say, date time & place is on the flyer.
The Pervasive Media Studio access is between the Cafe and Bar of the
"Watershed".
We have 3 areas a "Meeting Room" with sample videos of the three OS's,
an "Open Lounge" area with fully installed systems to play on (faster
than a live usb stick), there people can decide which OS they want to
try, they will then be given a stick to try in the "Main Area".
"Helpers" will be on hand in all areas but we do not intend installing
on to HD's unless we have the time!
The live sticks can be taken home and install if required.
Live OS's normally have an "Install To HD" icon which allows the OS to
be installed without problems. The 3 distros have been remixed to fit
on to the 1GB sticks. They will have all the S/W for basic desktop
use/demonstration.
We will also have handouts on the 3 OS's and other relevant S/W together
with guides and "freebies".
>
> Steve plenty keep it free, keep it open source!
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <http://overview.mail.yahoo.com?.src=iOS>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: * Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>;
> *To: * bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>;
> *Subject: * [bristol] LinuxLive 2014 15th March at the Pervasive Media
> Studio
> *Sent: * Sat, Jan 25, 2014 4:05:21 PM
>
> Hi,
>
> We are getting everything sorted and look forward to seeing some of you
> on the 15th.
>
> In case you are not aware, we will be showing 3 OS's, Mint, Ubuntu and
> SuSe and 3 desktops using Live USB sticks which visitors will be free to
> keep.
>
> We have designed a flyer and would appreciate if you could publicise the
> event in your work place or circulate amongst your many friends!?:
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45909169/linuxlive-poster.content.v2c.jpg
>
> It will also be on the LUG website.
>
> Later in February we will be asking for volunteers to help at the event
> for a couple of hours or more!
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Peter H
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bristol mailing list
> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk <javascript:return>
> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
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I hope that gives you a flavour!
I will be on leave from next Tuesday so post back to the list if you any
queries after then.
Regards
--
Peter H
------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 23:13:43 +0100
From: Angelo Danio <angelo.danio@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LinuxLive 2014 15th March at the Pervasive
Media Studio
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> We have designed a flyer and would appreciate if you could publicise the
> event in your work place or circulate amongst your many friends!?:
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45909169/linuxlive-poster.content.v2c.jpg
For sure I will, only in one thing I disagree : "Got an old PC, need a
fast PC" people will think to resurrect paleolithic hardware. Also
Linux to be competitive with other OS need a decent hardware, if you
want watch youtube, stream music, fast boot etc. We are not a
community of vintage hardware! The message to pass in my opinion is
"free, libre and open"
angelo
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 22:50:54 +0000
From: Ian Plain <ian@cyber-cottage.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LinuxLive 2014 15th March at the Pervasive
Media Studio
Message-ID:
<CAPdamw8RMzxwGawWw+9D0DxbbqZMaorDF2q2i5+hNt0EjY+w2w@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I agree fully with Angelo, TBH running like for like applications you need
the same hardware.
I think it would have been better to have focused on applications , when
users see they can use a free office application on their existing PC they
then don't see an issue migrating to a different OS, moving people to a new
OS and then telling them , no you can't use word outlook excel publisher
project means they say no thanks but showing people libreoffice opens and
saves their documents they can use scribus for DTP and libreproj instead of
project on their old OS and new Linux OS means the barrier to change is
removed
just my 2p worth.
oh and was there a prize for using the most font sizes ?
On Saturday, January 25, 2014, Angelo Danio <angelo.danio@gmail.com> wrote:
> > We have designed a flyer and would appreciate if you could publicise the
> > event in your work place or circulate amongst your many friends!?:
> >
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45909169/linuxlive-poster.content.v2c.jpg
>
> For sure I will, only in one thing I disagree : "Got an old PC, need a
> fast PC" people will think to resurrect paleolithic hardware. Also
> Linux to be competitive with other OS need a decent hardware, if you
> want watch youtube, stream music, fast boot etc. We are not a
> community of vintage hardware! The message to pass in my opinion is
> "free, libre and open"
> angelo
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bristol mailing list
> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk <javascript:;>
> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
>
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Twitter @cyberco
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:22:15 +0000 (GMT)
From: Alex Butcher <lug@assursys.co.uk>
To: Bristol & Bath LUG <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] JOBS: Senior System Administrator, University of
Bristol
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.03.1401231218180.7220@nffheflf.pb.hx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
<http://www.bris.ac.uk/jobs/find/details.html?nPostingID=1642&nPostingTargetID=5489&option=28&sort=DESC&respnr=1&ID=Q50FK026203F3VBQBV7V77V83&LOV1=6719&Resultsperpage=10&lg=UK&mask=uobext>
"We are seeking a Senior Systems Administrator to work within a team of
technical IT staff which has responsibility for the design, development,
support and maintenance of the University?s mission critical Unix (Linux and
Solaris) systems.
You will have knowledge of the practice of systems administration,
including: identity management, security, patching, packaging, automation
and backup; and building, installing and configuring open source software.
You should have experience of scalable and resilient systems having managed
multiple servers in a heterogeneous and complex environment.
You will have a working knowledge of file transfer mechanisms, iSCSI, fibre
channel and cluster file systems such as GPFS. You should be fluent in
python and bash scripting languages and debugging software.
You must possess knowledge and experience including but not limited to:
Solaris and GNU/Linux operating systems; sparc and x86 hardware; monitoring,
virtualisation for Linux (such as Xen) and Solaris (zones), configuration
management (including bcfg2) and databases."
Benefits include 40 days paid holiday (25 days annual leave, 8 public
holidays, 7 closure days at Easter and Christmas/NY) and membership of the
USS final salary pension scheme (funded by an additional employer
contribution of 16% combined with an employee contribution of 7.5%, so
effective salary range is about ?46654-?52487)
On the downside, you'll be working with me. :-)
Also, out in the Engineering Faculty:
<http://www.bris.ac.uk/jobs/find/details.html?nPostingID=1645&nPostingTargetID=5485&option=28&sort=DESC&respnr=5&ID=Q50FK026203F3VBQBV7V77V83&Resultsperpage=10&lg=UK&mask=uobext>
"The roleholder will contribute significantly in the delivery of Linux
solutions at all levels, including ? but not limited to ? the development of
stable, sustainable Linux desktop distributions and multiuser servers;
automated monitoring, security and license management and updating on server
systems, including rolling out consistent practices for existing systems;
procurement, provisioning, configuration and systems administration of
systems and servers from initiation to completion; engagement with teaching
and research issues and the provision of advice to academic staff writing
grant proposals. Server side, the existing fleet draws on Enterprise Solaris
(v8 to 10) & Linux (Centos and Ubuntu) Administration, NIS, LDAP (inc. AD
integration), NFS, ZFS and VMWare and XEN virtualisation."
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:22:15 +0000 (GMT)
From: Alex Butcher <lug@assursys.co.uk>
To: Bristol & Bath LUG <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] JOBS: Senior System Administrator, University of
Bristol
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.03.1401231218180.7220@nffheflf.pb.hx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
<http://www.bris.ac.uk/jobs/find/details.html?nPostingID=1642&nPostingTargetID=5489&option=28&sort=DESC&respnr=1&ID=Q50FK026203F3VBQBV7V77V83&LOV1=6719&Resultsperpage=10&lg=UK&mask=uobext>
"We are seeking a Senior Systems Administrator to work within a team of
technical IT staff which has responsibility for the design, development,
support and maintenance of the University?s mission critical Unix (Linux and
Solaris) systems.
You will have knowledge of the practice of systems administration,
including: identity management, security, patching, packaging, automation
and backup; and building, installing and configuring open source software.
You should have experience of scalable and resilient systems having managed
multiple servers in a heterogeneous and complex environment.
You will have a working knowledge of file transfer mechanisms, iSCSI, fibre
channel and cluster file systems such as GPFS. You should be fluent in
python and bash scripting languages and debugging software.
You must possess knowledge and experience including but not limited to:
Solaris and GNU/Linux operating systems; sparc and x86 hardware; monitoring,
virtualisation for Linux (such as Xen) and Solaris (zones), configuration
management (including bcfg2) and databases."
Benefits include 40 days paid holiday (25 days annual leave, 8 public
holidays, 7 closure days at Easter and Christmas/NY) and membership of the
USS final salary pension scheme (funded by an additional employer
contribution of 16% combined with an employee contribution of 7.5%, so
effective salary range is about ?46654-?52487)
On the downside, you'll be working with me. :-)
Also, out in the Engineering Faculty:
<http://www.bris.ac.uk/jobs/find/details.html?nPostingID=1645&nPostingTargetID=5485&option=28&sort=DESC&respnr=5&ID=Q50FK026203F3VBQBV7V77V83&Resultsperpage=10&lg=UK&mask=uobext>
"The roleholder will contribute significantly in the delivery of Linux
solutions at all levels, including ? but not limited to ? the development of
stable, sustainable Linux desktop distributions and multiuser servers;
automated monitoring, security and license management and updating on server
systems, including rolling out consistent practices for existing systems;
procurement, provisioning, configuration and systems administration of
systems and servers from initiation to completion; engagement with teaching
and research issues and the provision of advice to academic staff writing
grant proposals. Server side, the existing fleet draws on Enterprise Solaris
(v8 to 10) & Linux (Centos and Ubuntu) Administration, NIS, LDAP (inc. AD
integration), NFS, ZFS and VMWare and XEN virtualisation."
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2. Re: First BBLUG meeting of 2014 this Saturday (Sebastian)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:26:42 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: [bristol] First BBLUG meeting of 2014 this Saturday
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Hi
It's nearly that time again for another Bristol and Bath Linux User
Group meeting, this Saturday at the Knight's Templar Pub in Temple Quay
near Temple Meads train station, between well let's say 1pm and 5/6pm
with people turning up and leaving when they decide to. Will you be
coming to the LUG meeting?
New people and regulars welcome, and optional introductions can be sent
to this mailing list before the meeting. Also for anyone new we sit at
the back of the lower level by the plugs or near there instead, and
usually at least some people have their computers out since the pub has
free Wifi available.
The meetings are rather informal and it depends on who is there what is
talked about, be it tech related or otherwise. Can also get help at the
meeting with certain tech issues depending on the issue and who is
there. Will you come and join us this Saturday for a chat and some pub
lunch? http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/pubs/the-knights-templar
Regards
Sebastian
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:29:09 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] First BBLUG meeting of 2014 this Saturday
Message-ID: <52DD5CE5.9070107@gmx.com>
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On 20/01/14 17:26, Sebastian wrote:
> Also for anyone new we sit at the back of the lower level by the plugs
> or near there instead,
We sit at the back on the lower level when entering the pub and usually
in the left hand side corner by the plugs, but if not there, some where
near instead.
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Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:26:42 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: [bristol] First BBLUG meeting of 2014 this Saturday
Message-ID: <52DD5C52.9060007@gmx.com>
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Hi
It's nearly that time again for another Bristol and Bath Linux User
Group meeting, this Saturday at the Knight's Templar Pub in Temple Quay
near Temple Meads train station, between well let's say 1pm and 5/6pm
with people turning up and leaving when they decide to. Will you be
coming to the LUG meeting?
New people and regulars welcome, and optional introductions can be sent
to this mailing list before the meeting. Also for anyone new we sit at
the back of the lower level by the plugs or near there instead, and
usually at least some people have their computers out since the pub has
free Wifi available.
The meetings are rather informal and it depends on who is there what is
talked about, be it tech related or otherwise. Can also get help at the
meeting with certain tech issues depending on the issue and who is
there. Will you come and join us this Saturday for a chat and some pub
lunch? http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/pubs/the-knights-templar
Regards
Sebastian
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:29:09 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] First BBLUG meeting of 2014 this Saturday
Message-ID: <52DD5CE5.9070107@gmx.com>
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On 20/01/14 17:26, Sebastian wrote:
> Also for anyone new we sit at the back of the lower level by the plugs
> or near there instead,
We sit at the back on the lower level when entering the pub and usually
in the left hand side corner by the plugs, but if not there, some where
near instead.
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 18:56:12 +0000 (GMT)
From: Steve Plenty <steve.plenty@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] LXF games Distro Disk
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Hello Everyone,
I have got a LXF Games Distro Disk with over 100 games from Linux format magazine, if anyone would like this disk please can you email me your full name and address and I will post it to you for free.
Thanks Steve Plenty "Keep it free, Keep it Open Source"
steve.plenty@yahoo.co.uk
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 18:56:12 +0000 (GMT)
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Hello Everyone,
I have got a LXF Games Distro Disk with over 100 games from Linux format magazine, if anyone would like this disk please can you email me your full name and address and I will post it to you for free.
Thanks Steve Plenty "Keep it free, Keep it Open Source"
steve.plenty@yahoo.co.uk
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1. Re: Intel integrated video on HP Pavilion DV2000 not
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3. Re: Ofcom Broadband Analysis Project (MFPA)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 18:35:28 +0000
From: "Simon Iremonger (bblug)" <bblug@iremonger.me.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Cc: Christopher Horler <cshorler@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Intel integrated video on HP Pavilion DV2000
not recognized.
Message-ID: <52D431F0.6020807@iremonger.me.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
On 2014-01-12 12:33, Christopher Horler wrote:
> On 12 January 2014 10:32, Simon Iremonger (bblug) <bblug@iremonger.me.uk> wrote:
>>>> The PCI id you've given isn't listed by the kernel driver include. You
>>>> might want to raise a bug / propose a patch upstream if fixing this and
>>>> recompiling the kernel module works for you.
>> Now THATS a helpful answer.
> The reason you clone a git tree is so you can make a local branch,
> modify it and then submit your patch upstream (probably via the
> mailing list), this is common git workflow. Though if you've never
> done it, it could well be simpler for you to just create a bug report.
I see I see =).
> Most of the devices listed in the PCI IDs don't have more than one id,
> also there's one reference in the mailing list archive to 27a6 -
> listed as a second device function, so perhaps there's something else
> going on and the other id is the important one.
> I'd suggest you restate your question on the intel mailing list or the
> irc channel, someone may know the exact problem.
Actually, just compiling a 3.12.7 kernel with the debian patches to
their 'sid' 3.12.6 -- seems to have worked =). Did it all make-kpkg
and manually asked for initramfs to be built and all is well....
Now, i915 DOES see the graphics and X.org now loads intel driver =),
at least with my modified x.org module...... I will need to experiment
and see if e.g. I can get the VGA output going, see how things go. =).
If I find the module modification for PCI IDs was really needed, I'll
try to create a bug about that, to help others with similar machine,
but seemingly later kernels aren't having a problem.
THANKYOU for helpful pointers after my second message, most useful!
--Simon
------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 19:27:12 +0000 (GMT)
From: Steve Plenty <steve.plenty@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] (no subject)
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Hi Everyone,
Just to introduce myself. I'm Steve Plenty 38 years old & I have been using Linux for three years now when I had enough of running Window, I still class myself a Newbie when it comes to using to terminal I am getting better using it all the time.I am a Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Gnome "Classic" user, but I also use Linux Mint Cinnamon desktop along side Ubuntu. I also watch a Program on youtube called "The Linux Action Show" which is good to watch.
I would like to recomend to all "newbie" a PDF book how to use the Terminal "Bash-Beginners-Guide" I found? it on a website called The Linux Documentation Project.It is very helpful if you want to start to use the terminal.
I would like to go to the Bristol and Bath Linux User Group meettings. I would like to give out my Email address if anyone wants to get in contact me, I look forward to hearing from you.
Steve Plenty (keep it free, keep it open source !)
steve.plenty@yahoo.co.uk?
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 20:13:45 +0000
From: MFPA <2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-groups@riseup.net>
To: "Shane McEwan on Bristol and Bath Linux User Group"
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Ofcom Broadband Analysis Project
Message-ID: <1298968667.20140113201345@my_localhost>
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Hi
On Monday 13 January 2014 at 10:57:34 AM, in
<mid:52D3C69E.2010805@mcewan.id.au>, Shane McEwan wrote:
> On 11/01/14 01:12, MFPA wrote:
>> Presumably multiple operating systems or devices means multiple
>> agents. Is the data from these multiple agents aggregated?
> Generally you would only run one agent per network.
> We're testing your broadband connection, not your
> computers.
I was thinking more of the home user scenario. For example, a single
pc that sometimes runs Windows and sometimes runs Linux. Or different
devices used by various people in the house at variable times.
- --
Best regards
MFPA mailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-groups@riseup.net
Think for yourself.
Otherwise you have to believe what other people tell you.
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 18:35:28 +0000
From: "Simon Iremonger (bblug)" <bblug@iremonger.me.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Cc: Christopher Horler <cshorler@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Intel integrated video on HP Pavilion DV2000
not recognized.
Message-ID: <52D431F0.6020807@iremonger.me.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
On 2014-01-12 12:33, Christopher Horler wrote:
> On 12 January 2014 10:32, Simon Iremonger (bblug) <bblug@iremonger.me.uk> wrote:
>>>> The PCI id you've given isn't listed by the kernel driver include. You
>>>> might want to raise a bug / propose a patch upstream if fixing this and
>>>> recompiling the kernel module works for you.
>> Now THATS a helpful answer.
> The reason you clone a git tree is so you can make a local branch,
> modify it and then submit your patch upstream (probably via the
> mailing list), this is common git workflow. Though if you've never
> done it, it could well be simpler for you to just create a bug report.
I see I see =).
> Most of the devices listed in the PCI IDs don't have more than one id,
> also there's one reference in the mailing list archive to 27a6 -
> listed as a second device function, so perhaps there's something else
> going on and the other id is the important one.
> I'd suggest you restate your question on the intel mailing list or the
> irc channel, someone may know the exact problem.
Actually, just compiling a 3.12.7 kernel with the debian patches to
their 'sid' 3.12.6 -- seems to have worked =). Did it all make-kpkg
and manually asked for initramfs to be built and all is well....
Now, i915 DOES see the graphics and X.org now loads intel driver =),
at least with my modified x.org module...... I will need to experiment
and see if e.g. I can get the VGA output going, see how things go. =).
If I find the module modification for PCI IDs was really needed, I'll
try to create a bug about that, to help others with similar machine,
but seemingly later kernels aren't having a problem.
THANKYOU for helpful pointers after my second message, most useful!
--Simon
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 19:27:12 +0000 (GMT)
From: Steve Plenty <steve.plenty@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] (no subject)
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Hi Everyone,
Just to introduce myself. I'm Steve Plenty 38 years old & I have been using Linux for three years now when I had enough of running Window, I still class myself a Newbie when it comes to using to terminal I am getting better using it all the time.I am a Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Gnome "Classic" user, but I also use Linux Mint Cinnamon desktop along side Ubuntu. I also watch a Program on youtube called "The Linux Action Show" which is good to watch.
I would like to recomend to all "newbie" a PDF book how to use the Terminal "Bash-Beginners-Guide" I found? it on a website called The Linux Documentation Project.It is very helpful if you want to start to use the terminal.
I would like to go to the Bristol and Bath Linux User Group meettings. I would like to give out my Email address if anyone wants to get in contact me, I look forward to hearing from you.
Steve Plenty (keep it free, keep it open source !)
steve.plenty@yahoo.co.uk?
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On Monday 13 January 2014 at 10:57:34 AM, in
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> On 11/01/14 01:12, MFPA wrote:
>> Presumably multiple operating systems or devices means multiple
>> agents. Is the data from these multiple agents aggregated?
> Generally you would only run one agent per network.
> We're testing your broadband connection, not your
> computers.
I was thinking more of the home user scenario. For example, a single
pc that sometimes runs Windows and sometimes runs Linux. Or different
devices used by various people in the house at variable times.
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 10:57:34 +0000
From: Shane McEwan <shane@mcewan.id.au>
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Subject: Re: [bristol] Ofcom Broadband Analysis Project
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On 11/01/14 01:12, MFPA wrote:
> Presumably multiple operating systems or devices means multiple
> agents. Is the data from these multiple agents aggregated?
Generally you would only run one agent per network. We're testing your
broadband connection, not your computers. For our corporate customers
they run an agent at various strategic points in their network (remote
offices, datacentres, etc).
> How much data does it send/receive? Obviously this would impact on
> service of a slow connection and cost of a metered connection.
The data requirements are pretty minimal. Four times an hour we ping a
few hosts on the Internet and for the web browsing targets we download a
small file from the target's web site to measure site responsiveness. I
would expect total network usage to be less than 5MB per day.
One of our customers is the local government of a remote Atlantic
island. The island's entire Internet connection is via a satellite link
so we've tuned our tests to have minimal impact on the network.
> How much does it really cost? A minimum spend of 50 units of ?20
> sounds unaffordable to most people.
That is what we charge for our corporate customers. The Ofcom BBFix
project is free for people to install at home. You receive a summary of
your network performance via our dashboard which is a much trimmed down
version of what our customers can see. Our paying customers have an
advanced view of the data collected about their networks as well as
control over which targets are monitored. For most medium sized
companies ?1000 per month is a small price to pay for insight into how
their network is performing from a user-experience point of view.
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On 11/01/14 01:12, MFPA wrote:
> Presumably multiple operating systems or devices means multiple
> agents. Is the data from these multiple agents aggregated?
Generally you would only run one agent per network. We're testing your
broadband connection, not your computers. For our corporate customers
they run an agent at various strategic points in their network (remote
offices, datacentres, etc).
> How much data does it send/receive? Obviously this would impact on
> service of a slow connection and cost of a metered connection.
The data requirements are pretty minimal. Four times an hour we ping a
few hosts on the Internet and for the web browsing targets we download a
small file from the target's web site to measure site responsiveness. I
would expect total network usage to be less than 5MB per day.
One of our customers is the local government of a remote Atlantic
island. The island's entire Internet connection is via a satellite link
so we've tuned our tests to have minimal impact on the network.
> How much does it really cost? A minimum spend of 50 units of ?20
> sounds unaffordable to most people.
That is what we charge for our corporate customers. The Ofcom BBFix
project is free for people to install at home. You receive a summary of
your network performance via our dashboard which is a much trimmed down
version of what our customers can see. Our paying customers have an
advanced view of the data collected about their networks as well as
control over which targets are monitored. For most medium sized
companies ?1000 per month is a small price to pay for insight into how
their network is performing from a user-experience point of view.
Shane.
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 12:01:40 +0000
From: Chris <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] T60 3945APG WiFi Card Problem
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Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>On 11/01/14 10:57, Peter Hemmings wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I switched my Thinkpad on today and no wireless (ethernet is OK).
>> I did some basics as I have dual boot and checked on another OS
>(Mint)
>> and Windoze with same result.
>>
>> I have a "Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG" controller on my
>> Fedora 19 with a mini pci card installed.
>
>Ooooops sorry for my instant reply!
>
>Was that the card!?
>
>
>I can see the driver iwl3945
>> is loaded but cannot seem to see the card on either the pci or usb
>bus.
>>
It might be that I'm misunderstanding what you've got - but for the above I'd check the seating of the card. If it's mini PCI and still doesn't work, let me know and I'll bring a spare to the next LUG meeting.
Chris
>> Can I determine if its the card or aerial as I have flexed the screen
>> recently!?
>>
>> PCI, USB and module information attached.
>>
>> I will be getting a screwdriver out later today to look and wiggle a
>few
>> connections!
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bristol mailing list
>> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 12:33:05 +0000
From: Christopher Horler <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Intel integrated video on HP Pavilion DV2000
not recognized.
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On 12 January 2014 10:32, Simon Iremonger (bblug) <bblug@iremonger.me.uk> wrote:
>>> The PCI id you've given isn't listed by the kernel driver include. You
>>> might want to raise a bug / propose a patch upstream if fixing this and
>>> recompiling the kernel module works for you.
> Now THATS a helpful answer.
>
>>> You can clone the Intel git tree for this.
> Now, this would be nice for me to learn about a bit... Do we need
> a 'separate' intel Git tree, or just a newer version of complete
> kernel source ready to rebuild? etc. How does the intel git
> tree compare to the oter anyway?
>
>> Would also be interesting to see complete kernel log.
> OK, attach a log. I note that I believe I have tried with and
> without 'nomodeset' boot parameter.
>
> THANKYOU for the helpful answer so far =).
https://01.org/linuxgraphics/community/kernel
The reason you clone a git tree is so you can make a local branch,
modify it and then submit your patch upstream (probably via the
mailing list), this is common git workflow. Though if you've never
done it, it could well be simpler for you to just create a bug report.
Most of the devices listed in the PCI IDs don't have more than one id,
also there's one reference in the mailing list archive to 27a6 -
listed as a second device function, so perhaps there's something else
going on and the other id is the important one.
I'd suggest you restate your question on the intel mailing list or the
irc channel, someone may know the exact problem.
Chris
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:43:01 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] T60 3945ABG WiFi Card Problem (Solved)
Message-ID: <52D29BE5.6050408@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
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Solved!
I put it all back and it now works!
I could say it was bad connections - but I will be honest!
First a bit of history:
I dropped it on a carpet (18ins) last week but did not notice anything
was wrong at the time!
I only have a copy of the maintenance manual not a user manual showing
all the buttons etc - get the sense of where I am going!!?
I put it all back OK (getting quite quick at doing it now), still
exhibited same fault. I then noticed that blue tooth was off as well so
checked in the fc18 setup to find it was "disabled in hardware" -
any more clues needed!?
Checked BIOS and all was enabled OK, decided to try to find user manual
but were all .exe files, but found a review with the attached photo!
The T60 has a slider switch on the front edge (that I have never
touched) its use is to switch off Bluetooth/WiFi without playing with
S/W, it was midway between the two positions and (I assume) the drop
just switched it off.
And the lessons to be learned are always RTFM and get a user one even if
you have a maintenance manual and of course, check the simple things first!
That's about enough "dirty linen" for one day.
Regards
--
Peter H
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:52:01 +0000
From: "Simon Iremonger (bblug)" <bblug@iremonger.me.uk>
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>> I can see the driver iwl3945
>>> is loaded but cannot seem to see the card on either the pci or usb
> It might be that I'm misunderstanding what you've got - but for the
above I'd check the seating of the card. If it's mini PCI and still
doesn't work, let me know and I'll bring a spare to the next LUG
Interestingly, mini-PCIe-sockets, can carry both the pci-express
signals and also a USB signal! Though the Intel WLAN cards I
have seen use the pci-e and not USB...
Still, bad connection as above, makes most sense to me.
--Simon
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 12:01:40 +0000
From: Chris <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] T60 3945APG WiFi Card Problem
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Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>On 11/01/14 10:57, Peter Hemmings wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I switched my Thinkpad on today and no wireless (ethernet is OK).
>> I did some basics as I have dual boot and checked on another OS
>(Mint)
>> and Windoze with same result.
>>
>> I have a "Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG" controller on my
>> Fedora 19 with a mini pci card installed.
>
>Ooooops sorry for my instant reply!
>
>Was that the card!?
>
>
>I can see the driver iwl3945
>> is loaded but cannot seem to see the card on either the pci or usb
>bus.
>>
It might be that I'm misunderstanding what you've got - but for the above I'd check the seating of the card. If it's mini PCI and still doesn't work, let me know and I'll bring a spare to the next LUG meeting.
Chris
>> Can I determine if its the card or aerial as I have flexed the screen
>> recently!?
>>
>> PCI, USB and module information attached.
>>
>> I will be getting a screwdriver out later today to look and wiggle a
>few
>> connections!
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bristol mailing list
>> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
>>
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 12:33:05 +0000
From: Christopher Horler <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Intel integrated video on HP Pavilion DV2000
not recognized.
Message-ID:
<CAAeT8m_U-21RjywLfRNNYEYHq-=_bWBsNU9RDHSe1-BD=K7Q0Q@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
On 12 January 2014 10:32, Simon Iremonger (bblug) <bblug@iremonger.me.uk> wrote:
>>> The PCI id you've given isn't listed by the kernel driver include. You
>>> might want to raise a bug / propose a patch upstream if fixing this and
>>> recompiling the kernel module works for you.
> Now THATS a helpful answer.
>
>>> You can clone the Intel git tree for this.
> Now, this would be nice for me to learn about a bit... Do we need
> a 'separate' intel Git tree, or just a newer version of complete
> kernel source ready to rebuild? etc. How does the intel git
> tree compare to the oter anyway?
>
>> Would also be interesting to see complete kernel log.
> OK, attach a log. I note that I believe I have tried with and
> without 'nomodeset' boot parameter.
>
> THANKYOU for the helpful answer so far =).
https://01.org/linuxgraphics/community/kernel
The reason you clone a git tree is so you can make a local branch,
modify it and then submit your patch upstream (probably via the
mailing list), this is common git workflow. Though if you've never
done it, it could well be simpler for you to just create a bug report.
Most of the devices listed in the PCI IDs don't have more than one id,
also there's one reference in the mailing list archive to 27a6 -
listed as a second device function, so perhaps there's something else
going on and the other id is the important one.
I'd suggest you restate your question on the intel mailing list or the
irc channel, someone may know the exact problem.
Chris
------------------------------
Message: 3
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:43:01 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] T60 3945ABG WiFi Card Problem (Solved)
Message-ID: <52D29BE5.6050408@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"
Solved!
I put it all back and it now works!
I could say it was bad connections - but I will be honest!
First a bit of history:
I dropped it on a carpet (18ins) last week but did not notice anything
was wrong at the time!
I only have a copy of the maintenance manual not a user manual showing
all the buttons etc - get the sense of where I am going!!?
I put it all back OK (getting quite quick at doing it now), still
exhibited same fault. I then noticed that blue tooth was off as well so
checked in the fc18 setup to find it was "disabled in hardware" -
any more clues needed!?
Checked BIOS and all was enabled OK, decided to try to find user manual
but were all .exe files, but found a review with the attached photo!
The T60 has a slider switch on the front edge (that I have never
touched) its use is to switch off Bluetooth/WiFi without playing with
S/W, it was midway between the two positions and (I assume) the drop
just switched it off.
And the lessons to be learned are always RTFM and get a user one even if
you have a maintenance manual and of course, check the simple things first!
That's about enough "dirty linen" for one day.
Regards
--
Peter H
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:52:01 +0000
From: "Simon Iremonger (bblug)" <bblug@iremonger.me.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
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>> I can see the driver iwl3945
>>> is loaded but cannot seem to see the card on either the pci or usb
> It might be that I'm misunderstanding what you've got - but for the
above I'd check the seating of the card. If it's mini PCI and still
doesn't work, let me know and I'll bring a spare to the next LUG
Interestingly, mini-PCIe-sockets, can carry both the pci-express
signals and also a USB signal! Though the Intel WLAN cards I
have seen use the pci-e and not USB...
Still, bad connection as above, makes most sense to me.
--Simon
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:30:18 +0000
From: Chris <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
"Simon Iremonger (bblug)" <bblug@iremonger.me.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Intel integrated video on HP Pavilion DV2000
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Chris <cshorler@googlemail.com> wrote:
>Chris <cshorler@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>"Simon Iremonger (bblug)" <bblug@iremonger.me.uk> wrote:
>>>Hrrrrrrrrrrrrrm...
>>>
>>>On 2014-01-02 09:15, Simon Iremonger (bblug) wrote:> Dear All,
>>>> OK, This is an oddity to me... Any ideas =).
>>>> On HP Pavilion DV2000 of the variety with Intel graphics,
>>>> trying to use 64bit Debian Wheezy, for example, just won't
>>>> recognize the (apparently supported) onboard intel graphics,
>>>> instead using the VESA driver which is a pain.
>>>
>>>Hum...... Did I mis-word this original message (e.g. too much
>>>or confusing or something), or otherwise put-off the many many
>>>knowledgeable people here somehow?
>>>Or is this just the wrong place to ask? Maybe I'm asking
>>>a sufficiently over-specialized question? =).
>>>
>>>--Simon
>>>
>>>
>>
>>The PCI id you've given isn't listed by the kernel driver include.
>You
>>might want to raise a bug / propose a patch upstream if fixing this
>and
>>recompiling the kernel module works for you. You can clone the Intel
>>git tree for this.
>>
>
>Would also be interesting to see complete kernel log.
>
Also the kernel driver is in a different repo - I'm not sure which one you would need to branch, perhaps drm-linux. There's a mailing list you could join or search to find out.
>>Chris
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The PCI devices:-
>>>> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile
>>>945GM/GMS,
>>>> 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) (prog-if
>>>00
>>>> [VGA controller])
>>>> Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30b2
>>>> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME,
>>>> 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
>>>> Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30b2
>>>>
>>>> NB: I NOTE that these are somehow TAGGED as HP devices in 'lspci
>-v'
>>>> above...! Also, their actual IDs:-
>>>>
>>>> 00:02.0 0300: 8086:27a2 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
>>>> Subsystem: 103c:30b2
>>>> 00:02.1 0380: 8086:27a6 (rev 03)
>>>> Subsystem: 103c:30b2
>>>>
>>>> NB: Looking about at other people's lspci for 945GM chipset users,
>>>> they seem to have 27a2 and 27ae instead, no '27a6' as above.
>>>> I've even rebuilt the xserver-xorg-video-intel driver and changed
>>>> the PCI IDs its' expecting as above with no luck.
>>>>
>>>> Relevant bits of xorg log:-
>>>>
>>>>
>>>======================================================================
>>>> X.Org X Server 1.12.4
>>>> Release Date: 2012-08-27
>>>> [....]
>>>> (--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:27a2:103c:30b2 rev 3, Mem @
>>>0xd4300000/524288,
>>>> 0xc0000000/268435456, 0xd4400000/262144, I/O @ 0x00001800/8
>>>> (--) PCI: (0:0:2:1) 8086:27a6:103c:30b2 rev 3, Mem @
>>>0xd4380000/524288
>>>> [....]
>>>> (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Integrated Graphics Chipsets:
>>>> i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 854, 852GM/855GM,
>865G,
>>>> 915G, E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, Pineview GM,
>>>> Pineview G, 965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ, 965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35,
>>>Q33,
>>>> GM45, 4 Series, G45/G43, Q45/Q43, G41, B43, HD Graphics,
>>>> HD Graphics 2000, HD Graphics 3000, HD Graphics 2500,
>>>> HD Graphics 4000, HD Graphics P4000, HD Graphics 4600,
>>>> HD Graphics 5000, HD Graphics P4600/P4700, Iris(TM) Graphics 5100,
>>>> HD Graphics 4400, HD Graphics 4200, Iris(TM) Pro Graphics 5200
>>>> (--) using VT number 8
>>>>
>>>> (EE) No devices detected.
>>>>
>>>> Fatal server error:
>>>> no screens found
>>>>
>>>======================================================================
>>>>
>>>> Also, kernel log doesn't tell me much... Upon reloading the
>>>> 'i915' module the laptop lcd brightness resets, but the 'dmesg'
>>>> log doesn't indicate explicitly that mode-setting is available
>>>> or a PCI device was actually recognized at kernel level.
>>>> Have tried a newer backported kernel 3.11.8-1~bpo70+1 with no
>>>> apparent effect.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I notice somebody else supposedly had the intel driver loaded in
>>>> x.org and then get no screens on similar laptop:-
>>>> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1451007#post9101092
>>>>
>>>> And, I've not got far finding out exactly when this happens...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now...
>>>> (a) Is it known for HP to mess about with ids/presentation of intel
>>>> bits so they don't recognize easily -- or otherwise are you having
>>>> VESA driver on some other intel chipset integrated graphics
>machine?
>>>>
>>>> (b) Is there something else going on here?
>>>>
>>>> (c) How would I debug this further? -- add more warnings/printouts
>>in
>>>> the driver code that appear in log, maybe ????
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With many thanks in advance,
>>>>
>>>> --Simon
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
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>>>
>>>
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:10:38 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] T60 3945ABG WiFi Card Problem
Message-ID: <52D2782E.8070503@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
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On 12/01/14 09:10, Simon Iremonger (bblug) wrote:
>> Now in little pieces! Not taken the display bezel off yet to see the
>> aerials. I have two of them a main and aux that go round the display
>> (which I have never dismantled).
>> Anyone know why is there an AUX connection?
> Gives the adapter 2 antennae in slightly different positions, idea
> being to counteract trouble with 'dead spots' etc.
OK TA
>
>> Both wires seem to be short circuit! Surely that's not right or is it!?
> The outer 'ground' contact on both may well be connected -- these are
> likely both connected with that 'metal tape' to the screens' ground
> inside the top of the monitor.
>
> However, the 'inner' contact of the antenna cable (which is almost
> certainly a small co-ax) probably isn't shorted to ground...
>
> Though I could envision some radio-antennae that look like a low
> resistance at low frequency (e.g. DC from multimeter), but are
> a different behaviour at the actual transmission frequency.
Yep, just posted this on a Leveno forum and was told this, I should
have known as my original trade was comms!
>
> p.s. be careful of those tiny coax connectors -- can be fragile!
Sure will, I decided that as I cannot see obvious damage I will be
putting it back together and looking for another board. As I want it
for my holiday I may have to get a usb dongle or pmcia card for
temporary use.
Anyone one know if most dongles now work or are there still problem
chipsets!?
>
> Hope that helps,
Yep, I have made a decision!
>
> --Simon
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bristol mailing list
> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
>
Regards
--
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:30:18 +0000
From: Chris <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
"Simon Iremonger (bblug)" <bblug@iremonger.me.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Intel integrated video on HP Pavilion DV2000
not recognized.
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Chris <cshorler@googlemail.com> wrote:
>Chris <cshorler@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>"Simon Iremonger (bblug)" <bblug@iremonger.me.uk> wrote:
>>>Hrrrrrrrrrrrrrm...
>>>
>>>On 2014-01-02 09:15, Simon Iremonger (bblug) wrote:> Dear All,
>>>> OK, This is an oddity to me... Any ideas =).
>>>> On HP Pavilion DV2000 of the variety with Intel graphics,
>>>> trying to use 64bit Debian Wheezy, for example, just won't
>>>> recognize the (apparently supported) onboard intel graphics,
>>>> instead using the VESA driver which is a pain.
>>>
>>>Hum...... Did I mis-word this original message (e.g. too much
>>>or confusing or something), or otherwise put-off the many many
>>>knowledgeable people here somehow?
>>>Or is this just the wrong place to ask? Maybe I'm asking
>>>a sufficiently over-specialized question? =).
>>>
>>>--Simon
>>>
>>>
>>
>>The PCI id you've given isn't listed by the kernel driver include.
>You
>>might want to raise a bug / propose a patch upstream if fixing this
>and
>>recompiling the kernel module works for you. You can clone the Intel
>>git tree for this.
>>
>
>Would also be interesting to see complete kernel log.
>
Also the kernel driver is in a different repo - I'm not sure which one you would need to branch, perhaps drm-linux. There's a mailing list you could join or search to find out.
>>Chris
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The PCI devices:-
>>>> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile
>>>945GM/GMS,
>>>> 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) (prog-if
>>>00
>>>> [VGA controller])
>>>> Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30b2
>>>> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME,
>>>> 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
>>>> Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30b2
>>>>
>>>> NB: I NOTE that these are somehow TAGGED as HP devices in 'lspci
>-v'
>>>> above...! Also, their actual IDs:-
>>>>
>>>> 00:02.0 0300: 8086:27a2 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
>>>> Subsystem: 103c:30b2
>>>> 00:02.1 0380: 8086:27a6 (rev 03)
>>>> Subsystem: 103c:30b2
>>>>
>>>> NB: Looking about at other people's lspci for 945GM chipset users,
>>>> they seem to have 27a2 and 27ae instead, no '27a6' as above.
>>>> I've even rebuilt the xserver-xorg-video-intel driver and changed
>>>> the PCI IDs its' expecting as above with no luck.
>>>>
>>>> Relevant bits of xorg log:-
>>>>
>>>>
>>>======================================================================
>>>> X.Org X Server 1.12.4
>>>> Release Date: 2012-08-27
>>>> [....]
>>>> (--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:27a2:103c:30b2 rev 3, Mem @
>>>0xd4300000/524288,
>>>> 0xc0000000/268435456, 0xd4400000/262144, I/O @ 0x00001800/8
>>>> (--) PCI: (0:0:2:1) 8086:27a6:103c:30b2 rev 3, Mem @
>>>0xd4380000/524288
>>>> [....]
>>>> (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Integrated Graphics Chipsets:
>>>> i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 854, 852GM/855GM,
>865G,
>>>> 915G, E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, Pineview GM,
>>>> Pineview G, 965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ, 965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35,
>>>Q33,
>>>> GM45, 4 Series, G45/G43, Q45/Q43, G41, B43, HD Graphics,
>>>> HD Graphics 2000, HD Graphics 3000, HD Graphics 2500,
>>>> HD Graphics 4000, HD Graphics P4000, HD Graphics 4600,
>>>> HD Graphics 5000, HD Graphics P4600/P4700, Iris(TM) Graphics 5100,
>>>> HD Graphics 4400, HD Graphics 4200, Iris(TM) Pro Graphics 5200
>>>> (--) using VT number 8
>>>>
>>>> (EE) No devices detected.
>>>>
>>>> Fatal server error:
>>>> no screens found
>>>>
>>>======================================================================
>>>>
>>>> Also, kernel log doesn't tell me much... Upon reloading the
>>>> 'i915' module the laptop lcd brightness resets, but the 'dmesg'
>>>> log doesn't indicate explicitly that mode-setting is available
>>>> or a PCI device was actually recognized at kernel level.
>>>> Have tried a newer backported kernel 3.11.8-1~bpo70+1 with no
>>>> apparent effect.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I notice somebody else supposedly had the intel driver loaded in
>>>> x.org and then get no screens on similar laptop:-
>>>> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1451007#post9101092
>>>>
>>>> And, I've not got far finding out exactly when this happens...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now...
>>>> (a) Is it known for HP to mess about with ids/presentation of intel
>>>> bits so they don't recognize easily -- or otherwise are you having
>>>> VESA driver on some other intel chipset integrated graphics
>machine?
>>>>
>>>> (b) Is there something else going on here?
>>>>
>>>> (c) How would I debug this further? -- add more warnings/printouts
>>in
>>>> the driver code that appear in log, maybe ????
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With many thanks in advance,
>>>>
>>>> --Simon
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Bristol mailing list
>>>> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:10:38 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] T60 3945ABG WiFi Card Problem
Message-ID: <52D2782E.8070503@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
On 12/01/14 09:10, Simon Iremonger (bblug) wrote:
>> Now in little pieces! Not taken the display bezel off yet to see the
>> aerials. I have two of them a main and aux that go round the display
>> (which I have never dismantled).
>> Anyone know why is there an AUX connection?
> Gives the adapter 2 antennae in slightly different positions, idea
> being to counteract trouble with 'dead spots' etc.
OK TA
>
>> Both wires seem to be short circuit! Surely that's not right or is it!?
> The outer 'ground' contact on both may well be connected -- these are
> likely both connected with that 'metal tape' to the screens' ground
> inside the top of the monitor.
>
> However, the 'inner' contact of the antenna cable (which is almost
> certainly a small co-ax) probably isn't shorted to ground...
>
> Though I could envision some radio-antennae that look like a low
> resistance at low frequency (e.g. DC from multimeter), but are
> a different behaviour at the actual transmission frequency.
Yep, just posted this on a Leveno forum and was told this, I should
have known as my original trade was comms!
>
> p.s. be careful of those tiny coax connectors -- can be fragile!
Sure will, I decided that as I cannot see obvious damage I will be
putting it back together and looking for another board. As I want it
for my holiday I may have to get a usb dongle or pmcia card for
temporary use.
Anyone one know if most dongles now work or are there still problem
chipsets!?
>
> Hope that helps,
Yep, I have made a decision!
>
> --Simon
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bristol mailing list
> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
>
Regards
--
Peter H
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