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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure (Peter Hemmings)
2. Re: Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure (Dave Addison)
3. Re: Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure (Andy)
4. Re: Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure (d.hockin)
5. Re: Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure (d.hockin)
6. Re: Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure (d.hockin)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 23:01:24 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure
Message-ID: <532B7344.5080008@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
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On 20/03/14 10:22, d.hockin wrote:
> My wife's desktop PC has two drives :-
>
> 1=XPhome and 2 = Suse 10.1
>
> I have just tried to install Suse 13.1 from the disk the group sent
> me
What is the DVD (a remix, LXF disc, full distro etc)
, (having successfully installed it into my laptop)
So its not the DVD.
>
> This was to be a fresh install, NOT an "update" so the existing linux
> partition was emptied
>
> At the end of the install process, there was a list of files that
> failed to install, the most important being Grub2
So what were they or was there so many you cannot list!?
>
> So now the computer cannot run at all, as it stops immediately with
> Grub error 17
>
> I did try the "rescue" file on the DVD, but that refuses my login.
>
> We cannot do anything now, as we can't even get XP running.
>
> Please, what can we do?
Try again with just the one drive connected, just in case something is
upsetting the install.
If the DVD works OK then maybe make a USB stick to eliminate any DVD
drive problem.
Do a memtest for a few hours
Answer the questions (if it fails to load non grub files there is no
point in just trying to sort Grub.
>
> Thank you,
>
> David (Posset)
>
> _______________________________________________ Bristol mailing list
> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
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Peter H
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 00:51:20 +0000
From: Dave Addison <dave@redmoor.org.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure
Message-ID: <1974351.NUtrF3R0gO@phaedra>
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On Thursday 20 Mar 2014 10:22:37 d.hockin wrote:
> My wife's desktop PC has two drives :-
>
> 1=XPhome and
> 2 = Suse 10.1
>
> I have just tried to install Suse 13.1 from the disk the group sent me,
> (having successfully installed it into my laptop)
>
> This was to be a fresh install, NOT an "update" so the existing linux
> partition was emptied
>
> At the end of the install process, there was a list of files that failed to
> install, the most important being Grub2
>
> So now the computer cannot run at all, as it stops immediately with Grub
> error 17
>
> I did try the "rescue" file on the DVD, but that refuses my login.
>
> We cannot do anything now, as we can't even get XP running.
>
> Please, what can we do?
>
> Thank you,
>
> David (Posset)
>
Hello David
The rescue system only has one login which is username "root" with no
password. This will drop you to a shell prompt so probably isn't helpful.
I would try booting the install program again and selecting the "verify media"
option. This will ensure that the optical drive can successfully read the
disk. If it can, rerun the whole installation. You should get a message saying
there's an existing install and an option to upgrade or repair the existing
installation. The upgrade/repair should install the missing packages.
If the installation fails again, leave the install at the "fail" screen and
use the key combination alt-ctrl-f1 simultaneously to switch away to one of
the other virtual terminals. alt-ctrl-f2 will switch to terminal 2, alt-ctrl-
f3 will switch to terminal 3 etc. One of the virtual terminals is used to log
messages from the install. With any luck, this will have some information on
why the packages failed to install.
If the media validation fails, then you'll need a new disk
Dave
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 08:37:08 +0000
From: Andy <andy@pepsplace.org.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure
Message-ID: <532BFA34.4030104@pepsplace.org.uk>
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I've had good results against broken Grub installations with the Boot
Repair Disk at
http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd/home/Home/
In my case, it fixed it so that everything was visible and bootable
again, then I could check it was correctly done - and it was.
Andy
On 20/03/14 10:22, d.hockin wrote:
> My wife's desktop PC has two drives :-
>
> 1=XPhome and 2 = Suse 10.1
>
> I have just tried to install Suse 13.1 from the disk the group
> sent me, (having successfully installed it into my laptop)
>
> This was to be a fresh install, NOT an "update" so the existing
> linux partition was emptied
>
> At the end of the install process, there was a list of files that
> failed to install, the most important being Grub2
>
> So now the computer cannot run at all, as it stops immediately with
> Grub error 17
>
> I did try the "rescue" file on the DVD, but that refuses my login.
>
> We cannot do anything now, as we can't even get XP running.
>
> Please, what can we do?
>
> Thank you,
>
> David (Posset)
>
> _______________________________________________ Bristol mailing
> list Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
>
>
- --
Andy
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 09:24:56 -0000
From: "d.hockin" <d.hockin@btinternet.com>
To: "Bristol and Bath Linux User Group" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure
Message-ID: <773C34397DBD415D8327ABCC054A1FAD@dave9>
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Peter Hemmings wrote:
> On 20/03/14 10:22, d.hockin wrote:
>> My wife's desktop PC has two drives :-
>>
>> 1=XPhome and 2 = Suse 10.1
>>
>> I have just tried to install Suse 13.1 from the disk the group sent
>> me
>
> What is the DVD (a remix, LXF disc, full distro etc)
I can't answer this as all my emails are in my laptop which is away for
repair/
> , (having successfully installed it into my laptop)
>
> So its not the DVD.
>
>>
>> This was to be a fresh install, NOT an "update" so the existing linux
>> partition was emptied
>>
>> At the end of the install process, there was a list of files that
>> failed to install, the most important being Grub2
>
> So what were they or was there so many you cannot list!?
There were several lists and they were in small windows so I couldn't see
them all at once to list or copy.
>> So now the computer cannot run at all, as it stops immediately with
>> Grub error 17
>>
>> I did try the "rescue" file on the DVD, but that refuses my login.
>>
>> We cannot do anything now, as we can't even get XP running.
>>
>> Please, what can we do?
>
> Try again with just the one drive connected, just in case something is
> upsetting the install.
I can't run one drive without opening the whole PC to physically remove one,
and without grub, windows can't start. I have no way of distinguishing the
two idential drives from each other and since grub doesn't run, I can't run
windows anything.
> If the DVD works OK then maybe make a USB stick to eliminate any DVD
> drive problem.
>
> Do a memtest for a few hours
Impossible without the machine running any OS
> Answer the questions (if it fails to load non grub files there is no
> point in just trying to sort Grub.
I can't access anything! Its just frozen with this grub message.
>> Thank you,
>>
>> David (Posset)
>>
>> _______________________________________________ Bristol mailing list
>> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 09:29:12 -0000
From: "d.hockin" <d.hockin@btinternet.com>
To: "Bristol and Bath Linux User Group" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure
Message-ID: <28A01A45756243A29A8D4280F311D172@dave9>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Dave Addison wrote:
> On Thursday 20 Mar 2014 10:22:37 d.hockin wrote:
>> My wife's desktop PC has two drives :-
>>
>> 1=XPhome and
>> 2 = Suse 10.1
>>
>> I have just tried to install Suse 13.1 from the disk the group sent
>> me, (having successfully installed it into my laptop)
>>
>> This was to be a fresh install, NOT an "update" so the existing linux
>> partition was emptied
>>
>> At the end of the install process, there was a list of files that
>> failed to install, the most important being Grub2
>>
>> So now the computer cannot run at all, as it stops immediately with
>> Grub error 17
>>
>> I did try the "rescue" file on the DVD, but that refuses my login.
>>
>> We cannot do anything now, as we can't even get XP running.
>>
>> Please, what can we do?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> David (Posset)
>>
> Hello David
>
> The rescue system only has one login which is username "root" with no
> password. This will drop you to a shell prompt so probably isn't
> helpful.
>
> I would try booting the install program again and selecting the
> "verify media" option. This will ensure that the optical drive can
> successfully read the disk. If it can, rerun the whole installation.
> You should get a message saying there's an existing install and an
> option to upgrade or repair the existing installation. The
> upgrade/repair should install the missing packages.
>
> If the installation fails again, leave the install at the "fail"
> screen and use the key combination alt-ctrl-f1 simultaneously to
> switch away to one of the other virtual terminals. alt-ctrl-f2 will
> switch to terminal 2, alt-ctrl- f3 will switch to terminal 3 etc. One
> of the virtual terminals is used to log messages from the install.
> With any luck, this will have some information on why the packages
> failed to install.
>
> If the media validation fails, then you'll need a new disk
>
> Dave
>
I'll try the install again. To list the fail items, I'll have to photograph
the screen, as there is no way of printing directly from this pc, only over
the house ethernet to my own desktop pc, which of course, won't happen from
a frozen linux OS (and the pc's own HP printer hasn't worked for years so is
a dead loss!)
Dave (Posset)
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 09:53:13 -0000
From: "d.hockin" <d.hockin@btinternet.com>
To: "Bristol and Bath Linux User Group" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure
Message-ID: <CAC11B61366B406092C76F8E53A7846D@dave9>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Andy wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA512
>
> I've had good results against broken Grub installations with the Boot
> Repair Disk at
> http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd/home/Home/
>
> In my case, it fixed it so that everything was visible and bootable
> again, then I could check it was correctly done - and it was.
>
> Andy
>
> On 20/03/14 10:22, d.hockin wrote:
>> My wife's desktop PC has two drives :-
>>
>> 1=XPhome and 2 = Suse 10.1
>>
>> I have just tried to install Suse 13.1 from the disk the group
>> sent me, (having successfully installed it into my laptop)
>>
>> This was to be a fresh install, NOT an "update" so the existing
>> linux partition was emptied
>>
>> At the end of the install process, there was a list of files that
>> failed to install, the most important being Grub2
>>
>> So now the computer cannot run at all, as it stops immediately with
>> Grub error 17
>>
>> I did try the "rescue" file on the DVD, but that refuses my login.
>>
>> We cannot do anything now, as we can't even get XP running.
>>
>> Please, what can we do?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> David (Posset)
>>
>> _______________________________________________ Bristol mailing
>> list Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
>>
I downloaded the file, but since EasyCD failed on my pc, I now have no
means of writing an iso file to a disk. Only copying in the normal fashion
sometimes works. This "iso" didn't.
Dave (Posset)
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