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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Moto G [was Android Permissions and Iplayer (OT)]
(Alex Butcher (LUG))
2. Re: Diagnosing a machine that freezes intermittently
(James Womack)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 18:22:55 +0000
From: "Alex Butcher (LUG)" <lug@assursys.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Moto G [was Android Permissions and Iplayer
(OT)]
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I bought the phone outright, and that means she could cut her monthly contract by half to ?7.50.

On 17 March 2014 13:49:53 GMT+00:00, Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>On 17/03/14 12:56, Alex Butcher (LUG) wrote:
>> I picked up a 16GB Moto G for my other half for Xmas. She's happy
>> with it and it's the closest thing to a stock Android experience that
>> I've seen other than on Nexus models. It's also VERY reasonably
>> priced; so much so that I think it's the best choice if you don't
>> want to pay the price for a Nexus.
>
>As a matter of interest was it pay as you go or contract?
>
>I was thinking of getting a Tesco 18GB and making it sim free.
>
>The main criticism is its memory and camera, but generally gets good
>reviews for budget phone.
>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 22:20:02 +0000
From: James Womack <5inowsy1maiq@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Diagnosing a machine that freezes
intermittently
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Okay, memtest86+ ran without errors overnight. I have also tried to stress
the GPU by running many simultaneous instances of glxgears, but the GPU
temperature just hovers around 72 C which I gather is a respectable
temperature for a nVidia GPU.

Have just set stress to run for 5 hours with 32 GPU threads, though no
matter how many threads I threw at my CPU , the system remained responsive.
CPU temps have increases by about 10 C, though. The only way to get a
noticeable lag in the GUI was to use up so much RAM that swapping was
necessary, but then the CPU is not being stressed because it is having to
wait for memory reads. I wonder if there is something that is more
effective at stressing the machine? On Windows I have used Prime95 very
effectively in the past.

Thanks for all the help so far!
On 17 Mar 2014 13:53, "Nigel Sollars" <nsollars@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Not for nothing, have you tried just running it run level 3 style?. I
> had a laptop kinda do this, turned out to be a dying graphics adapter.
>
> Regards
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 7:00 AM, James Womack <5inowsy1maiq@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On 17/03/14 09:50, Shane McEwan wrote:
>> > It's almost certainly a hardware issue. The Linux kernel is usually very
>> > good at oopsing whenever software does something it's not supposed to.
>> > Upgrade to the latest nVidia driver if you think that could be a problem
>> > but in my experience you'll get errors in the logs, X crashes or no
>> > video at all if there's a driver problem. I can't remember an nVidia
>> > card or driver hanging the machine entirely and I've supported studios
>> > with 100s of Linux machines with nVidia cards.
>> >
>> > Definitely run a memory test. Are all your fans running? Use something
>> > like Munin to monitor CPU and graphics card temperatures and fan speeds
>> > and see if there's a pattern to when the machine hangs.
>> >
>> > Some motherboards have diagnotic LEDs on them that can sometimes give
>> > you a clue what state it's in when it hangs.
>> >
>> > Shane.
>> >
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>> Thanks, yes, I am beginning to suspect it is hardware based. Thanks for
>> your suggestions! Looks like I am going to have a fun time getting to
>> the root of this...
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