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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Music Creation software. Rosegarden (Steve Netting)


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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:57:20 -0000
From: "Steve Netting" <steve@track3.org.uk>
To: "Bristol and Bath Linux User Group" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Music Creation software. Rosegarden
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Hi Max,

I did investigate Ableton for live performance but the best approach
seemed to be to export stems and cut into loops so they could be
recombined/timestretched/mixed live. In this sense I can see the
usefulness for performance but decided against it due to the amount of
effort involved in converting existing material - and of course the cost.

In terms of writing material from scratch in Ableton, whilst it is a fully
functioning DAW it seems to encourage use of pre-existing loops (midi or
audio) and a cut & paste approach to music construction. This may also
be due to my allergic reaction to $GENERIC_DANCE, which seems to be
predominantly what it's used for.

I write all sorts from demoscene (ex tracker musician), to electro to
darker film score stuff. I spent some of the early 2000s flirting with
new age nonsense and industrial/ebm too.

Back on topic - I will check out Bitwig. If only there was an easy way to
convert tracks, I might even get a live electro set together!


Steve


> Bitwig is actually written by two of the guys who wrote ableton, so it's
> likely they will be fairly similar. Ableton isn't a toy though plenty of
> professionals use it, even if it's only so they can perform live. And
> pigeon holing a piece of equipment like that is like saying an MPC is only
> for HipHop.
>
> Just out of interest which style/styles of music do your create?
>
>
> On 11 March 2014 08:25, Steve Netting <steve@track3.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>> Bitwig looks impressive. However, I'm already heavily invested in
>> Cubase;
>> it's the only reason I still have a Windows installation. The time
>> taken
>> to learn new software deters me from migrating - plus the fact Bitwig
>> seems to be based around Ableton makes me want to write it off as yet
>> another loop based dance music toy.
>>
>> It's good to see a modern DAW for Linux though. Saying that, it's
>> probably about time I checked out Rosegarden again...
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> > Hi Guys,
>> > I've used rosegarden, although as I can't read or write music in
>> standard
>> > notation I just used it as a midi sequencer and had the outputs hooked
>> up
>> > to ardour via jackd.
>> >
>> > I've been watching the bitwig beta for a couple of years, I'm
>> interested
>> > to
>> > see how it will turn out, although for the next few years at least I'm
>> > sorted. I bit the bullet and bought a new Mac Book Pro and an ableton
>> push
>> > to go with the software I already had.
>> >
>> > Thanks, Max B
>> >
>> >
>> > On 9 March 2014 09:40, Adrian Portway <adrian.portway@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Max,
>> >>
>> >> There are a couple of distros which have media production as their
>> >> focus,
>> >> you might find they have what you're after:
>> >>
>> >> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/
>> >>
>> >> http://ubuntustudio.org/
>> >>
>> >> I'm using Ubuntu Studio ( although for the photographic tools not
>> music
>> >> production ).
>> >>
>> >> It might also be worth taking a look at this forum which I stumbled
>> >> across
>> >> while looking for the details of kxstudio: http://linuxmusicians.com/
>> >>
>> >> Good luck.
>> >>
>> >> Adrian
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 9 March 2014 09:18, Angelo Danio <angelo.danio@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> >> some german guys who used to work for ableton called bitwig. It
>> >>> should
>> >>> >> be released soon (it's been in beta testing for at least a year)
>> >>> googling ....
>> >>> https://www.bitwig.com/en/bitwig-studio.html
>> >>>
>> >>> it is due for release 1.0 on march 26 .... and should be for linux,
>> >>> osx and windows, but beta on invitation only, it seems it won't make
>> >>> coffee, but .... :)
>> >>> by the way at the moment I use audacity, multi platfom, for what I
>> >>> need it's more then enough. I know there are also jack
>> >>> http://jackaudio.org/ and ardour http://ardour.org/
>> >>> angelo
>> >>>
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