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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure (d.hockin)
2. Re: Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure (Marc Gray)
3. Re: Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure (d.hockin)

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 20:40:04 -0000
From: "d.hockin" <d.hockin@btinternet.com>
To: "Bristol and Bath Linux User Group" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure
Message-ID: <9D521030D46A4AFC83E6E77138953B31@dave9>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Chris, I'm going to come to the pub tomorrow afternoon, The pc had no option
in the BIOS for booting from USB. so Peter is going to let me have a disk.

The laptop is away as the hard drive is dying and its going to have to have
a new IDE drive (rare but available new on ebay!)

Dave.

Christopher Horler wrote:
> On 21 March 2014 13:12, d.hockin <d.hockin@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> Peter Hemmings wrote:
>>>
>>> David,
>>>>
>>>> I downloaded the file, but since EasyCD failed on my pc, I now
>>>> have no means of writing an iso file to a disk. Only copying in
>>>> the normal fashion sometimes works. This "iso" didn't.
>>>> Dave (Posset)
>>>
>>>
>>> I think we have been here before!
>>> To clarify your position could you confirm:
>>>
>>> You have a laptop that is away with info on the DVD you are using.
>>
>>
>> Yes, the email from the group member who gave me the disk is on the
>> laptop. That is why I can't quote his name.
>>
>>
>>> You have no rescue Cd's/Sticks and cannot burn any.
>>
>>
>> I tried to make the rescue cd suggested by Andy, but failed. I don't
>> know how to create rescue "sticks" and now have no disk recording
>> programme since EasyCd died a few years ago, apart from the basic
>> windows copy programme.
>>
>>
>>> You have not got any magazine DVD's (such as LXF) with memory test.
>>
>>
>> Wrong! I have plenty of LXformat disks, but do not use them as most
>> Linux is beyond me (I'm79) and experience with rescue sytems only
>> brings up a mulitude of questions that need a PhD to understand, let
>> alone answer.
>>
>> How can I run a memory test on a PC that can't run?
>>
>> I have been using Suse since v 9.1, 10, 11 and 12, and now 13, but
>> as a user, not a geek!
>>
>>
>>> You have another machine you are using for emailing but cannot use
>>> it for burning.
>>
>>
>> That is correct - as I said, EasyCD in my desktop PC died a few
>> years ago. I can COPY straight files to CD with windows. But nothing
>> more exotic like iso things, DVDs and videos etc.
>>
>>> You are not prepared to delve into the PC to remove an HD.
>>
>>
>> That is a silly statement! I have been into the Dell before, some
>> years ago, to replace a sound card, but have no way of identifiying
>> two identical hard drives. Also, it is a VERY big and very heavy box
>> for me to try and handle!
>>
>>
>>> You have an apparent error on the DVD and do not have another.
>>
>>
>> Yes, that is what I said.
>>
>>
>>> If you have no means of burning and no SuSe install disc then the
>>> quickest option is to get one to you rather than get into another
>>> long thread like before!
>>>
>>> When you get this resolved please make some rescue media to get
>>> information easily.
>>
>>
>> The information I supplied was given by the Install DVD itself, when
>> set to validate itself, as recommended to me by this group.
>>
>>
>>> I have a February LXF with OpenSUSE13.1 disc I can burn and send or
>>> you can collect from Backwell. I think its 32bit.
>>
>>
>> Thank you, but I DO have the LXformat Suse13.1 disk, BUT it is
>> 64bit, not 32!
>> I discovered that when I tried to install 13.1 from it onto my
>> laptop, and failed, so a group member kindly sent me a 32bit
>> version, which DID install on the laptop, though it DOES throw up on
>> error which could be corrected if there was a boot menu.lst in 13.1,
>> but there isn't.
>> I have found something similar buried in a different location, not
>> in boot, but cannot edit it, as was suggested by a group member.
>>
>>
>>> Let me know off-list if you want one?
>>
>>
>> But I don't have an email address for you - so how could I ?
>
>
> Dave are you mobile enough to make tomorrows LUG meeting at the
> Knights Templar pub by Temple Meads in Bristol?
>
> You wouldn't need to bring anything. If you have a 6GB or greater
> sized USB stick - bring that.
>
> FYI - there's no need to disassemble the computer, internally
> connected HDD are highly unlikely to cause the issue you're seeing.
> Be sure to disconnect all externally connected storage devices though
> (USB HDD, USB Phones, USB CD/DVD, etc ).
>
> It's not clear whether you've sent your laptop away for repair and/or
> if you have it and it has a problem booting.
>
> Laptop - It's not necessary to edit the GRUB2 files manually, there's
> a utility to do it automatically.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bristol mailing list
> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 21:51:30 +0000
From: Marc Gray <marc.gray@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I've noticed a pattern forming here. I think you need a new dvd drive.
Perhaps if you get an external dvd-writer, you'll solve all your problems.

On 21 March 2014 20:40, d.hockin <d.hockin@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Chris, I'm going to come to the pub tomorrow afternoon, The pc had no
> option in the BIOS for booting from USB. so Peter is going to let me have a
> disk.
>
> The laptop is away as the hard drive is dying and its going to have to
> have a new IDE drive (rare but available new on ebay!)
>
> Dave.
>
>
> Christopher Horler wrote:
>
>> On 21 March 2014 13:12, d.hockin <d.hockin@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Peter Hemmings wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> David,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I downloaded the file, but since EasyCD failed on my pc, I now
>>>>> have no means of writing an iso file to a disk. Only copying in
>>>>> the normal fashion sometimes works. This "iso" didn't.
>>>>> Dave (Posset)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think we have been here before!
>>>> To clarify your position could you confirm:
>>>>
>>>> You have a laptop that is away with info on the DVD you are using.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, the email from the group member who gave me the disk is on the
>>> laptop. That is why I can't quote his name.
>>>
>>>
>>> You have no rescue Cd's/Sticks and cannot burn any.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I tried to make the rescue cd suggested by Andy, but failed. I don't
>>> know how to create rescue "sticks" and now have no disk recording
>>> programme since EasyCd died a few years ago, apart from the basic
>>> windows copy programme.
>>>
>>>
>>> You have not got any magazine DVD's (such as LXF) with memory test.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Wrong! I have plenty of LXformat disks, but do not use them as most
>>> Linux is beyond me (I'm79) and experience with rescue sytems only
>>> brings up a mulitude of questions that need a PhD to understand, let
>>> alone answer.
>>>
>>> How can I run a memory test on a PC that can't run?
>>>
>>> I have been using Suse since v 9.1, 10, 11 and 12, and now 13, but
>>> as a user, not a geek!
>>>
>>>
>>> You have another machine you are using for emailing but cannot use
>>>> it for burning.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That is correct - as I said, EasyCD in my desktop PC died a few
>>> years ago. I can COPY straight files to CD with windows. But nothing
>>> more exotic like iso things, DVDs and videos etc.
>>>
>>> You are not prepared to delve into the PC to remove an HD.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That is a silly statement! I have been into the Dell before, some
>>> years ago, to replace a sound card, but have no way of identifiying
>>> two identical hard drives. Also, it is a VERY big and very heavy box
>>> for me to try and handle!
>>>
>>>
>>> You have an apparent error on the DVD and do not have another.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, that is what I said.
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have no means of burning and no SuSe install disc then the
>>>> quickest option is to get one to you rather than get into another
>>>> long thread like before!
>>>>
>>>> When you get this resolved please make some rescue media to get
>>>> information easily.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The information I supplied was given by the Install DVD itself, when
>>> set to validate itself, as recommended to me by this group.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a February LXF with OpenSUSE13.1 disc I can burn and send or
>>>> you can collect from Backwell. I think its 32bit.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you, but I DO have the LXformat Suse13.1 disk, BUT it is
>>> 64bit, not 32!
>>> I discovered that when I tried to install 13.1 from it onto my
>>> laptop, and failed, so a group member kindly sent me a 32bit
>>> version, which DID install on the laptop, though it DOES throw up on
>>> error which could be corrected if there was a boot menu.lst in 13.1,
>>> but there isn't.
>>> I have found something similar buried in a different location, not
>>> in boot, but cannot edit it, as was suggested by a group member.
>>>
>>>
>>> Let me know off-list if you want one?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But I don't have an email address for you - so how could I ?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Dave are you mobile enough to make tomorrows LUG meeting at the
>> Knights Templar pub by Temple Meads in Bristol?
>>
>> You wouldn't need to bring anything. If you have a 6GB or greater
>> sized USB stick - bring that.
>>
>> FYI - there's no need to disassemble the computer, internally
>> connected HDD are highly unlikely to cause the issue you're seeing.
>> Be sure to disconnect all externally connected storage devices though
>> (USB HDD, USB Phones, USB CD/DVD, etc ).
>>
>> It's not clear whether you've sent your laptop away for repair and/or
>> if you have it and it has a problem booting.
>>
>> Laptop - It's not necessary to edit the GRUB2 files manually, there's
>> a utility to do it automatically.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bristol mailing list
>> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
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>
>
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 22:54:39 -0000
From: "d.hockin" <d.hockin@btinternet.com>
To: "Bristol and Bath Linux User Group" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure
Message-ID: <759C79FEDF744D7C8303CB66D86D5846@dave9>
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Actually, the laptop had a new motherboard and dvd drive here in Britain under maintenance last year, whilst the PC has two DVD RW drives, but little used since I built the pc some years ago!

The laptop's hard drive is only 4 years old, put in when it was serviced and upgraded when on holiday in France. A hard drive twice the size of the original, bigger ram, sorted out a startup roblem in XP and upgraded Office by a couple of years - all for E140, after my explaining the problems in Franglais - brilliant value for money!

Dave (Posset)

----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Gray
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [bristol] Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure

I've noticed a pattern forming here. I think you need a new dvd drive. Perhaps if you get an external dvd-writer, you'll solve all your problems.

On 21 March 2014 20:40, d.hockin <d.hockin@btinternet.com> wrote:

Chris, I'm going to come to the pub tomorrow afternoon, The pc had no option in the BIOS for booting from USB. so Peter is going to let me have a disk.

The laptop is away as the hard drive is dying and its going to have to have a new IDE drive (rare but available new on ebay!)

Dave.

Christopher Horler wrote:

On 21 March 2014 13:12, d.hockin <d.hockin@btinternet.com> wrote:

Peter Hemmings wrote:

David,

I downloaded the file, but since EasyCD failed on my pc, I now
have no means of writing an iso file to a disk. Only copying in
the normal fashion sometimes works. This "iso" didn't.
Dave (Posset)

I think we have been here before!
To clarify your position could you confirm:

You have a laptop that is away with info on the DVD you are using.

Yes, the email from the group member who gave me the disk is on the
laptop. That is why I can't quote his name.

You have no rescue Cd's/Sticks and cannot burn any.

I tried to make the rescue cd suggested by Andy, but failed. I don't
know how to create rescue "sticks" and now have no disk recording
programme since EasyCd died a few years ago, apart from the basic
windows copy programme.

You have not got any magazine DVD's (such as LXF) with memory test.

Wrong! I have plenty of LXformat disks, but do not use them as most
Linux is beyond me (I'm79) and experience with rescue sytems only
brings up a mulitude of questions that need a PhD to understand, let
alone answer.

How can I run a memory test on a PC that can't run?

I have been using Suse since v 9.1, 10, 11 and 12, and now 13, but
as a user, not a geek!

You have another machine you are using for emailing but cannot use
it for burning.

That is correct - as I said, EasyCD in my desktop PC died a few
years ago. I can COPY straight files to CD with windows. But nothing
more exotic like iso things, DVDs and videos etc.

You are not prepared to delve into the PC to remove an HD.

That is a silly statement! I have been into the Dell before, some
years ago, to replace a sound card, but have no way of identifiying
two identical hard drives. Also, it is a VERY big and very heavy box
for me to try and handle!

You have an apparent error on the DVD and do not have another.

Yes, that is what I said.

If you have no means of burning and no SuSe install disc then the
quickest option is to get one to you rather than get into another
long thread like before!

When you get this resolved please make some rescue media to get
information easily.

The information I supplied was given by the Install DVD itself, when
set to validate itself, as recommended to me by this group.

I have a February LXF with OpenSUSE13.1 disc I can burn and send or
you can collect from Backwell. I think its 32bit.

Thank you, but I DO have the LXformat Suse13.1 disk, BUT it is
64bit, not 32!
I discovered that when I tried to install 13.1 from it onto my
laptop, and failed, so a group member kindly sent me a 32bit
version, which DID install on the laptop, though it DOES throw up on
error which could be corrected if there was a boot menu.lst in 13.1,
but there isn't.
I have found something similar buried in a different location, not
in boot, but cannot edit it, as was suggested by a group member.

Let me know off-list if you want one?

But I don't have an email address for you - so how could I ?

Dave are you mobile enough to make tomorrows LUG meeting at the
Knights Templar pub by Temple Meads in Bristol?

You wouldn't need to bring anything. If you have a 6GB or greater
sized USB stick - bring that.

FYI - there's no need to disassemble the computer, internally
connected HDD are highly unlikely to cause the issue you're seeing.
Be sure to disconnect all externally connected storage devices though
(USB HDD, USB Phones, USB CD/DVD, etc ).

It's not clear whether you've sent your laptop away for repair and/or
if you have it and it has a problem booting.

Laptop - It's not necessary to edit the GRUB2 files manually, there's
a utility to do it automatically.

_______________________________________________
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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure (d.hockin)
2. Re: Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure (Martin Moore)
3. Re: Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure (Christopher Horler)
4. Re: Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure (Christopher Horler)
5. Re: Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure (d.hockin)

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 13:12:11 -0000
From: "d.hockin" <d.hockin@btinternet.com>
To: "Bristol and Bath Linux User Group" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure
Message-ID: <D016C990B414417BA89F918953F926CA@dave9>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=response

Peter Hemmings wrote:
> David,
>> I downloaded the file, but since EasyCD failed on my pc, I now have
>> no means of writing an iso file to a disk. Only copying in the normal
>> fashion sometimes works. This "iso" didn't.
>> Dave (Posset)
>
> I think we have been here before!
> To clarify your position could you confirm:
>
> You have a laptop that is away with info on the DVD you are using.

Yes, the email from the group member who gave me the disk is on the laptop.
That is why I can't quote his name.

> You have no rescue Cd's/Sticks and cannot burn any.

I tried to make the rescue cd suggested by Andy, but failed. I don't know
how to create rescue "sticks" and now have no disk recording programme since
EasyCd died a few years ago, apart from the basic windows copy programme.

> You have not got any magazine DVD's (such as LXF) with memory test.

Wrong! I have plenty of LXformat disks, but do not use them as most Linux is
beyond me (I'm79) and experience with rescue sytems only brings up a
mulitude of questions that need a PhD to understand, let alone answer.

How can I run a memory test on a PC that can't run?

I have been using Suse since v 9.1, 10, 11 and 12, and now 13, but as a
user, not a geek!

> You have another machine you are using for emailing but cannot use it
> for burning.

That is correct - as I said, EasyCD in my desktop PC died a few years ago. I
can COPY straight files to CD with windows. But nothing more exotic like iso
things, DVDs and videos etc.

> You are not prepared to delve into the PC to remove an HD.

That is a silly statement! I have been into the Dell before, some years ago,
to replace a sound card, but have no way of identifiying two identical hard
drives. Also, it is a VERY big and very heavy box for me to try and handle!

> You have an apparent error on the DVD and do not have another.

Yes, that is what I said.

> If you have no means of burning and no SuSe install disc then the
> quickest option is to get one to you rather than get into another long
> thread like before!
>
> When you get this resolved please make some rescue media to get
> information easily.

The information I supplied was given by the Install DVD itself, when set to
validate itself, as recommended to me by this group.

> I have a February LXF with OpenSUSE13.1 disc I can burn and send or
> you can collect from Backwell. I think its 32bit.

Thank you, but I DO have the LXformat Suse13.1 disk, BUT it is 64bit, not
32!
I discovered that when I tried to install 13.1 from it onto my laptop, and
failed, so a group member kindly sent me a 32bit version, which DID install
on the laptop, though it DOES throw up on error which could be corrected if
there was a boot menu.lst in 13.1, but there isn't.
I have found something similar buried in a different location, not in boot,
but cannot edit it, as was suggested by a group member.

> Let me know off-list if you want one?

But I don't have an email address for you - so how could I ?

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 13:57:31 -0000
From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

A copy of http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ will allow you to create a
bootable USB stick. Very useful !!

Martin.

-----Original Message-----
From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
[mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of d.hockin
Sent: 21 March 2014 13:12
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [bristol] Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure

Peter Hemmings wrote:
> David,
>> I downloaded the file, but since EasyCD failed on my pc, I now have
>> no means of writing an iso file to a disk. Only copying in the normal
>> fashion sometimes works. This "iso" didn't.
>> Dave (Posset)
>
> I think we have been here before!
> To clarify your position could you confirm:
>
> You have a laptop that is away with info on the DVD you are using.

Yes, the email from the group member who gave me the disk is on the laptop.
That is why I can't quote his name.

> You have no rescue Cd's/Sticks and cannot burn any.

I tried to make the rescue cd suggested by Andy, but failed. I don't know
how to create rescue "sticks" and now have no disk recording programme since
EasyCd died a few years ago, apart from the basic windows copy programme.

> You have not got any magazine DVD's (such as LXF) with memory test.

Wrong! I have plenty of LXformat disks, but do not use them as most Linux is
beyond me (I'm79) and experience with rescue sytems only brings up a
mulitude of questions that need a PhD to understand, let alone answer.

How can I run a memory test on a PC that can't run?

I have been using Suse since v 9.1, 10, 11 and 12, and now 13, but as a
user, not a geek!

> You have another machine you are using for emailing but cannot use it
> for burning.

That is correct - as I said, EasyCD in my desktop PC died a few years ago. I
can COPY straight files to CD with windows. But nothing more exotic like iso
things, DVDs and videos etc.

> You are not prepared to delve into the PC to remove an HD.

That is a silly statement! I have been into the Dell before, some years ago,
to replace a sound card, but have no way of identifiying two identical hard
drives. Also, it is a VERY big and very heavy box for me to try and handle!

> You have an apparent error on the DVD and do not have another.

Yes, that is what I said.

> If you have no means of burning and no SuSe install disc then the
> quickest option is to get one to you rather than get into another long
> thread like before!
>
> When you get this resolved please make some rescue media to get
> information easily.

The information I supplied was given by the Install DVD itself, when set to
validate itself, as recommended to me by this group.

> I have a February LXF with OpenSUSE13.1 disc I can burn and send or
> you can collect from Backwell. I think its 32bit.

Thank you, but I DO have the LXformat Suse13.1 disk, BUT it is 64bit, not
32!
I discovered that when I tried to install 13.1 from it onto my laptop, and
failed, so a group member kindly sent me a 32bit version, which DID install
on the laptop, though it DOES throw up on error which could be corrected if
there was a boot menu.lst in 13.1, but there isn't.
I have found something similar buried in a different location, not in boot,
but cannot edit it, as was suggested by a group member.

> Let me know off-list if you want one?

But I don't have an email address for you - so how could I ?

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 14:04:27 +0000
From: Christopher Horler <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure
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On 21 March 2014 13:12, d.hockin <d.hockin@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Peter Hemmings wrote:
>>
>> David,
>>>
>>> I downloaded the file, but since EasyCD failed on my pc, I now have
>>> no means of writing an iso file to a disk. Only copying in the normal
>>> fashion sometimes works. This "iso" didn't.
>>> Dave (Posset)
>>
>>
>> I think we have been here before!
>> To clarify your position could you confirm:
>>
>> You have a laptop that is away with info on the DVD you are using.
>
>
> Yes, the email from the group member who gave me the disk is on the laptop.
> That is why I can't quote his name.
>
>
>> You have no rescue Cd's/Sticks and cannot burn any.
>
>
> I tried to make the rescue cd suggested by Andy, but failed. I don't know
> how to create rescue "sticks" and now have no disk recording programme since
> EasyCd died a few years ago, apart from the basic windows copy programme.
>
>
>> You have not got any magazine DVD's (such as LXF) with memory test.
>
>
> Wrong! I have plenty of LXformat disks, but do not use them as most Linux is
> beyond me (I'm79) and experience with rescue sytems only brings up a
> mulitude of questions that need a PhD to understand, let alone answer.
>
> How can I run a memory test on a PC that can't run?
>
> I have been using Suse since v 9.1, 10, 11 and 12, and now 13, but as a
> user, not a geek!
>
>
>> You have another machine you are using for emailing but cannot use it
>> for burning.
>
>
> That is correct - as I said, EasyCD in my desktop PC died a few years ago. I
> can COPY straight files to CD with windows. But nothing more exotic like iso
> things, DVDs and videos etc.
>
>> You are not prepared to delve into the PC to remove an HD.
>
>
> That is a silly statement! I have been into the Dell before, some years ago,
> to replace a sound card, but have no way of identifiying two identical hard
> drives. Also, it is a VERY big and very heavy box for me to try and handle!
>
>
>> You have an apparent error on the DVD and do not have another.
>
>
> Yes, that is what I said.
>
>
>> If you have no means of burning and no SuSe install disc then the
>> quickest option is to get one to you rather than get into another long
>> thread like before!
>>
>> When you get this resolved please make some rescue media to get
>> information easily.
>
>
> The information I supplied was given by the Install DVD itself, when set to
> validate itself, as recommended to me by this group.
>
>
>> I have a February LXF with OpenSUSE13.1 disc I can burn and send or
>> you can collect from Backwell. I think its 32bit.
>
>
> Thank you, but I DO have the LXformat Suse13.1 disk, BUT it is 64bit, not
> 32!
> I discovered that when I tried to install 13.1 from it onto my laptop, and
> failed, so a group member kindly sent me a 32bit version, which DID install
> on the laptop, though it DOES throw up on error which could be corrected if
> there was a boot menu.lst in 13.1, but there isn't.
> I have found something similar buried in a different location, not in boot,
> but cannot edit it, as was suggested by a group member.
>
>
>> Let me know off-list if you want one?
>
>
> But I don't have an email address for you - so how could I ?

Dave are you mobile enough to make tomorrows LUG meeting at the
Knights Templar pub by Temple Meads in Bristol?

You wouldn't need to bring anything. If you have a 6GB or greater
sized USB stick - bring that.

FYI - there's no need to disassemble the computer, internally
connected HDD are highly unlikely to cause the issue you're seeing.
Be sure to disconnect all externally connected storage devices though
(USB HDD, USB Phones, USB CD/DVD, etc ).

It's not clear whether you've sent your laptop away for repair and/or
if you have it and it has a problem booting.

Laptop - It's not necessary to edit the GRUB2 files manually, there's
a utility to do it automatically.

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 14:14:18 +0000
From: Christopher Horler <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure
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On 21 March 2014 13:57, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk> wrote:
> A copy of http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ will allow you to create a
> bootable USB stick. Very useful !!
>

An alternative to this which is packaged with the openSUSE
distribution (so perhaps easier for Dave to install if he has any
machine that boots and recent version of SUSE) is called
"imagewriter".

It will burn a bootable USB stick of the official openSUSE ISO image
(downloaded from the website). Its a very simple GUI application with
3 buttons (select the USB disk device, select the ISO file, write the
USB stick).

Chris

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 20:36:31 -0000
From: "d.hockin" <d.hockin@btinternet.com>
To: <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>, "Bristol and Bath Linux User Group"
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure
Message-ID: <B1895154272342588D2D895E00F83A5F@dave9>
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Martin, thanks but the PC bios has no option for booting from usb

Peter is going to let me have a disk tomorrow afternnoon.
Dave.

Martin Moore wrote:
> A copy of http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ will allow you to
> create a bootable USB stick. Very useful !!
>
>
> Martin.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
> [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of d.hockin
> Sent: 21 March 2014 13:12
> To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Suse13.1 dual boot intallation failure
>
> Peter Hemmings wrote:
>> David,
>>> I downloaded the file, but since EasyCD failed on my pc, I now have
>>> no means of writing an iso file to a disk. Only copying in the
>>> normal fashion sometimes works. This "iso" didn't.
>>> Dave (Posset)
>>
>> I think we have been here before!
>> To clarify your position could you confirm:
>>
>> You have a laptop that is away with info on the DVD you are using.
>
> Yes, the email from the group member who gave me the disk is on the
> laptop. That is why I can't quote his name.
>
>> You have no rescue Cd's/Sticks and cannot burn any.
>
> I tried to make the rescue cd suggested by Andy, but failed. I don't
> know how to create rescue "sticks" and now have no disk recording
> programme since EasyCd died a few years ago, apart from the basic
> windows copy programme.
>
>> You have not got any magazine DVD's (such as LXF) with memory test.
>
> Wrong! I have plenty of LXformat disks, but do not use them as most
> Linux is beyond me (I'm79) and experience with rescue sytems only
> brings up a mulitude of questions that need a PhD to understand, let
> alone answer.
>
> How can I run a memory test on a PC that can't run?
>
> I have been using Suse since v 9.1, 10, 11 and 12, and now 13, but as
> a user, not a geek!
>
>> You have another machine you are using for emailing but cannot use it
>> for burning.
>
> That is correct - as I said, EasyCD in my desktop PC died a few years
> ago. I can COPY straight files to CD with windows. But nothing more
> exotic like iso things, DVDs and videos etc.
>
>> You are not prepared to delve into the PC to remove an HD.
>
> That is a silly statement! I have been into the Dell before, some
> years ago, to replace a sound card, but have no way of identifiying
> two identical hard drives. Also, it is a VERY big and very heavy box
> for me to try and handle!
>
>> You have an apparent error on the DVD and do not have another.
>
> Yes, that is what I said.
>
>> If you have no means of burning and no SuSe install disc then the
>> quickest option is to get one to you rather than get into another
>> long thread like before!
>>
>> When you get this resolved please make some rescue media to get
>> information easily.
>
> The information I supplied was given by the Install DVD itself, when
> set to validate itself, as recommended to me by this group.
>
>> I have a February LXF with OpenSUSE13.1 disc I can burn and send or
>> you can collect from Backwell. I think its 32bit.
>
> Thank you, but I DO have the LXformat Suse13.1 disk, BUT it is 64bit,
> not 32!
> I discovered that when I tried to install 13.1 from it onto my
> laptop, and failed, so a group member kindly sent me a 32bit version,
> which DID install on the laptop, though it DOES throw up on error
> which could be corrected if there was a boot menu.lst in 13.1, but
> there isn't.
> I have found something similar buried in a different location, not in
> boot, but cannot edit it, as was suggested by a group member.
>
>> Let me know off-list if you want one?
>
> But I don't have an email address for you - so how could I ?
>
>
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