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Today's Topics:

1. Grub2 and Fedora 23 (Peter Hemmings)
2. Re: Grub2 and Fedora 23 (Sebastian)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 21:48:26 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Grub2 and Fedora 23
Message-ID: <56F9989A.2020603@virginmedia.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Hi,

I gave up as I lost being able to boot fc23 from a stick!!


Re-installed fc23 (LXF dvd) on the same partition (sda3) with my data on
another partition (all lvm except boot).

First the good news:

I can now boot all 3 versions of fc23 plus windoze plus Mint 17 and
thought all is fine but.......

it's not.

On trying to do an update I could not connect and realized I had no WiFi!

Tried on all 3 fedora listed kernels (and they are all different when I
checked with edit on grub menu) and I have the same problem.

Double checked with Mint 17 and all is OK, iwlegacy and iwl3945 are loaded.
On further checking I found I have about 24 modules loaded on fc23 but
about 64 on the Mint 17, I know Fedora is cutting edge but not that
clever that it can run with so few modules!

I checked the grub menu's and the 3 fedora kernels do not seem to be
rescue versions.

I did try to do an update this afternoon (as DVD was a liitle old) but
could not get the repository.


While writing this post I tried to update again and it worked (ethernet).

Waited while it did about 1200 updates, removed cable and re-booted and
guess what.......

Wifi now works and LOTS of modules loaded!

I have a new kernel 4.4.6-300-fc23 so maybe that (and some modules) were
the problem with my (oldish) H/W.

Any ideas as to what caused this!?

I must write 100 times:

"Always make sure the system is up to date before posting".

Although I am not sure if this wasn't also a grub problem.

Going to have a beer now as I did not get to the KT on Saturday.


Regards

--
Peter H



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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 00:12:13 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Grub2 and Fedora 23
Message-ID: <56F9BA4D.8040601@gmx.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Hi Peter

Replying below inline:

On 28/03/16 21:48, Peter Hemmings wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I gave up as I lost being able to boot fc23 from a stick!!
>
>
> Re-installed fc23 (LXF dvd) on the same partition (sda3) with my data
> on another partition (all lvm except boot).
>
> First the good news:
>
> I can now boot all 3 versions of fc23 plus windoze plus Mint 17 and
> thought all is fine but.......
>
> it's not.
>
> On trying to do an update I could not connect and realized I had no WiFi!
>
> Tried on all 3 fedora listed kernels (and they are all different when
> I checked with edit on grub menu) and I have the same problem.
>
> Double checked with Mint 17 and all is OK, iwlegacy and iwl3945 are
> loaded.
> On further checking I found I have about 24 modules loaded on fc23 but
> about 64 on the Mint 17, I know Fedora is cutting edge but not that
> clever that it can run with so few modules!
>
> I checked the grub menu's and the 3 fedora kernels do not seem to be
> rescue versions.
>
> I did try to do an update this afternoon (as DVD was a liitle old) but
> could not get the repository.
>
>
> While writing this post I tried to update again and it worked (ethernet).
>
> Waited while it did about 1200 updates, removed cable and re-booted
> and guess what.......
>
> Wifi now works and LOTS of modules loaded!
>
> I have a new kernel 4.4.6-300-fc23 so maybe that (and some modules)
> were the problem with my (oldish) H/W.
>
> Any ideas as to what caused this!?
You probably needed to be Internet connected via Ethernet to get the
driver for the wireless. Plus Fedora won't have any proprietary wireless
drivers and things like that by default. With Ubuntu on this HP lap top
I have to Ethernet first and then I can install the wireless driver in
the usual way.
>
> I must write 100 times:
>
> "Always make sure the system is up to date before posting".
Yes generally that's a good idea to install all the updates first after
installing any Linux distro.
>
> Although I am not sure if this wasn't also a grub problem.
No Grub is only for booting up operating systems, so wireless issues and
things like that will have nothing to do with Grub.
>
> Going to have a beer now as I did not get to the KT on Saturday.
Oh you didn't get to the KT on Saturday, how come? I also didn't get
there in the end. So I wonder who actually turned up if anyone.
>
>
> Regards
>
Regards

Sebastian



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