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Today's Topics:

1. Lost Fedora wifi after adding Mint 17! (grub) (Peter Hemmings)
2. Re: Lost Fedora wifi after adding Mint 17! (grub) (Amias Channer)
3. Re: Lost Fedora wifi after adding Mint 17! (grub) (Shane McEwan)
4. LUG Meeting this Saturday 26th March 2016 (Sebastian)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 20:48:15 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Lost Fedora wifi after adding Mint 17! (grub)
Message-ID: <56F3010F.7070309@virginmedia.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Hi,

After having problems with installing local wordpress on fc23. I
installed Mint 17 of 36GB unallocated part of the HD (more info for WP
on Mint forums).

Installed mint from Live CD and let it install its bootloader.

Mint17 works OK

I then tried to boot fc32 (as main OS) from non advanced grub menu.
It shows it as fc23, it booted BUT no wifi!

Thought my (laptop) pci card had failed.
Checked wifi modules on Mint (awl3945) all OK.
Checked modules on fc23 and they were not there!
There were also a lot less modules loaded!!!

I then did "uname -a" and found it is running an old fc22 kernel, from
where I do not know!

I used mint live Cd to re install grub and did a grub update, but it
still boots old kernel (4.04-301 fc22). and stil sows it as fedora 23 on
the menu.

The Mint menu gives one option for fc23 and an "advanced options" which
brings up 4 identical options!:

"Fedora Release 23 (Twenty Three) (on /dev/mapper/fedora-root)"

The 1st has only a rescue image and works with no wifi
The 2nd is 4.4.3-300 fc23 and works OK
The 3rd is 4.4.4-301 fc23 and works OK
The 4th is 4.4.5-300 fc23 and works OK

Ant ideas why the first option is running fc22 and not 23?

How can I boot from a reasonable list of options, do I have to clear out
grub more thoroughly!?

I do not want to manually change grub options as, (I assume) when I next
upgrade grub prober will give me the same problems.


Regards

--
Peter H



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:27:13 +0000
From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Lost Fedora wifi after adding Mint 17! (grub)
Message-ID:
<CAMgU7XUVaq2Hc+Sp=8UVjed2N5W+THRXXaeJg_bVOEd1rTe93A@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hello Peter,

as a total guess when mint installed its boot loader and added the
fedora options it didn't honour the boot parameters you set in fedora.
Thus leaving your wifi uninitialised in fedora. I'd look dmesg and see
if there is any mention of the wifi card in there.

The other option could be that mint has uploaded different firmware to
your wifi card and this has made it appear different to fedora or
somehow triggered a bug, pretty unlikley though. There would probably
be errors in the logs if this where the case.

Cheers
Amias

On 23 March 2016 at 20:48, Peter Hemmings
<peternsomerset@virginmedia.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> After having problems with installing local wordpress on fc23. I installed
> Mint 17 of 36GB unallocated part of the HD (more info for WP on Mint
> forums).
>
> Installed mint from Live CD and let it install its bootloader.
>
> Mint17 works OK
>
> I then tried to boot fc32 (as main OS) from non advanced grub menu.
> It shows it as fc23, it booted BUT no wifi!
>
> Thought my (laptop) pci card had failed.
> Checked wifi modules on Mint (awl3945) all OK.
> Checked modules on fc23 and they were not there!
> There were also a lot less modules loaded!!!
>
> I then did "uname -a" and found it is running an old fc22 kernel, from where
> I do not know!
>
> I used mint live Cd to re install grub and did a grub update, but it still
> boots old kernel (4.04-301 fc22). and stil sows it as fedora 23 on the menu.
>
> The Mint menu gives one option for fc23 and an "advanced options" which
> brings up 4 identical options!:
>
> "Fedora Release 23 (Twenty Three) (on /dev/mapper/fedora-root)"
>
> The 1st has only a rescue image and works with no wifi
> The 2nd is 4.4.3-300 fc23 and works OK
> The 3rd is 4.4.4-301 fc23 and works OK
> The 4th is 4.4.5-300 fc23 and works OK
>
> Ant ideas why the first option is running fc22 and not 23?
>
> How can I boot from a reasonable list of options, do I have to clear out
> grub more thoroughly!?
>
> I do not want to manually change grub options as, (I assume) when I next
> upgrade grub prober will give me the same problems.
>
>
> Regards
>
> --
> Peter H
>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:10:24 +0000
From: Shane McEwan <shane@mcewan.id.au>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Lost Fedora wifi after adding Mint 17! (grub)
Message-ID: <56F3CB20.4030201@mcewan.id.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

G'day!

Try the Mint Boot Repair tool:
https://mintguide.org/tools/37-restore-grub-boot-loader-in-linux-mint-after-installation-reinstallation-windows.html

It will search all your disks for possible boot options and rebuild your
Grub bootloader with sensible defaults.

Shane.

On 23/03/16 20:48, Peter Hemmings wrote:
> Hi,
>
> After having problems with installing local wordpress on fc23. I
> installed Mint 17 of 36GB unallocated part of the HD (more info for WP
> on Mint forums).
>
> Installed mint from Live CD and let it install its bootloader.
>
> Mint17 works OK
>
> I then tried to boot fc32 (as main OS) from non advanced grub menu.
> It shows it as fc23, it booted BUT no wifi!
>
> Thought my (laptop) pci card had failed.
> Checked wifi modules on Mint (awl3945) all OK.
> Checked modules on fc23 and they were not there!
> There were also a lot less modules loaded!!!
>
> I then did "uname -a" and found it is running an old fc22 kernel, from
> where I do not know!
>
> I used mint live Cd to re install grub and did a grub update, but it
> still boots old kernel (4.04-301 fc22). and stil sows it as fedora 23 on
> the menu.
>
> The Mint menu gives one option for fc23 and an "advanced options" which
> brings up 4 identical options!:
>
> "Fedora Release 23 (Twenty Three) (on /dev/mapper/fedora-root)"
>
> The 1st has only a rescue image and works with no wifi
> The 2nd is 4.4.3-300 fc23 and works OK
> The 3rd is 4.4.4-301 fc23 and works OK
> The 4th is 4.4.5-300 fc23 and works OK
>
> Ant ideas why the first option is running fc22 and not 23?
>
> How can I boot from a reasonable list of options, do I have to clear out
> grub more thoroughly!?
>
> I do not want to manually change grub options as, (I assume) when I next
> upgrade grub prober will give me the same problems.
>
>
> Regards
>



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:49:47 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: [bristol] LUG Meeting this Saturday 26th March 2016
Message-ID: <56F3D45B.1060902@gmx.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Hi

Turns out I haven't been for a few months now, but I do indeed intend to
be at the LUG meeting this Saturday, and will probably be there about
2:30pm. Who else is intending on being there and when?

For anyone that does not know, we are usually at the back of the
Knight's Templar Pub (
https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/pubs/all-pubs/england/bristol/the-knights-templar-bristol
) in Temple Quay near temple meads train station, at the back of it on
the lower level, at the left by the plugs, or near there instead if
someone else is already there. People usually turn up starting from 1pm
with someone likely being there for sure at 1:30pm and then people
usually leave about 5pm or a bit later.

Hope to meet some new people there ideally as well.

Come along for an informal meet with fellow
Linux/opensource/freesoftware (free as in software freedom) enthusiasts,
where we can talk tech, or show some tech to other people, or even give
away some for free maybe, and other tech related things. You could also
for example take the opportunity to discuss politics if you really want :).

Easter Regards

Sebastian



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