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Today's Topics:
1. VMWare (Martin Moore)
2. Re: VMWare (Dave Addison)
3. Re: VMWare (Amias Channer)
4. Re: VMWare (Martin Moore)
5. Re: VMWare (Martin Moore)
6. Re: VMWare (Keith Edmunds)
7. Re: VMWare (Keith Edmunds)
8. Re: VMWare (nick robinson)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2016 15:57:36 +0000
From: Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] VMWare
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I?m pondering running my Debian systems on VMWare. Trouble is the VMW website doesn?t tell you much except how wonderful it is :)
So,
1. Is there a free for commercial use option
2. Is it simple to take a copy of a current install and turn into a VMW image
3. How does network traffic know which VM to route to, or is it 1 eth port per VM
3. Any gotcha?s I should know about
Ta.
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2016 16:05:58 +0000
From: Dave Addison <dave@redmoor.org.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] VMWare
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On Saturday 05 Mar 2016 15:57:36 Martin Moore wrote:
> I?m pondering running my Debian systems on VMWare. Trouble is the VMW
> website doesn?t tell you much except how wonderful it is :)
>
> So,
>
> 1. Is there a free for commercial use option
- not as far as I know. You used to be able to get a free copy of vmware
server 2 but this is now obsolescent and virtually unusable. Last time I
looked for a replacement, I couldn't find anything on the website. The player
software is free but you can't create virtual machines with this.
> 2. Is it simple to take a copy of a current install and turn into a VMW
- yes, you can mount a vmware virtual disk and use dd to make a copy of your
existing system
> image 3. How does network traffic know which VM to route to, or is it 1 eth
> port per VM 3. Any gotcha?s I should know about
- each vm has it's own virtual ethernet adapter(s) so it gets its own IP
address
>
> Ta.
>
Cheers
Dave
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 16:07:02 +0000
From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] VMWare
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Hello Martin,
There is a limited time free version of most releases of the VMware
ESX , i think its 30 days.
Yes , you can migrate an install to a vm image but you will need non
free tools to do that with VMware.
VMware supports a bewildering of networking emulations from VLAN
tagging to emulated switches.
You can give a vm a specific networkdevice or you can make it bridge a
virtual one.
You might want to try virtualbox which is free and and open source ,
version 5 is very capable.
There are loads of gotchas, too many to list.
Cheers
Amias
On 5 March 2016 at 15:57, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk> wrote:
> I?m pondering running my Debian systems on VMWare. Trouble is the VMW website doesn?t tell you much except how wonderful it is :)
>
> So,
>
> 1. Is there a free for commercial use option
> 2. Is it simple to take a copy of a current install and turn into a VMW image
> 3. How does network traffic know which VM to route to, or is it 1 eth port per VM
> 3. Any gotcha?s I should know about
>
> Ta.
>
>
>
>
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> Bristol mailing list
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2016 16:16:57 +0000
From: Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] VMWare
Message-ID: <0F02C19A-3307-4FD1-8E7B-142C42E99F8B@it-helps.co.uk>
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Cheers Dave. Looks like more playing around us due!
On 05/03/2016, 16:05, "Bristol on behalf of Dave Addison" <bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk on behalf of dave@redmoor.org.uk> wrote:
>On Saturday 05 Mar 2016 15:57:36 Martin Moore wrote:
>> I?m pondering running my Debian systems on VMWare. Trouble is the VMW
>> website doesn?t tell you much except how wonderful it is :)
>>
>> So,
>>
>> 1. Is there a free for commercial use option
>- not as far as I know. You used to be able to get a free copy of vmware
>server 2 but this is now obsolescent and virtually unusable. Last time I
>looked for a replacement, I couldn't find anything on the website. The player
>software is free but you can't create virtual machines with this.
>> 2. Is it simple to take a copy of a current install and turn into a VMW
>- yes, you can mount a vmware virtual disk and use dd to make a copy of your
>existing system
>> image 3. How does network traffic know which VM to route to, or is it 1 eth
>> port per VM 3. Any gotcha?s I should know about
>- each vm has it's own virtual ethernet adapter(s) so it gets its own IP
>address
>>
>> Ta.
>>
>Cheers
>Dave
>
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2016 17:17:49 +0000
From: Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] VMWare
Message-ID: <14EBEB33-F22B-4E1E-A3CD-D0D448C69F5A@it-helps.co.uk>
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Is virtual box suitable for a high availability commercial environment?
On 05/03/2016, 16:07, "Bristol on behalf of Amias Channer" <bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk on behalf of me@amias.net> wrote:
>Hello Martin,
>
>There is a limited time free version of most releases of the VMware
>ESX , i think its 30 days.
>
>Yes , you can migrate an install to a vm image but you will need non
>free tools to do that with VMware.
>
>VMware supports a bewildering of networking emulations from VLAN
>tagging to emulated switches.
>You can give a vm a specific networkdevice or you can make it bridge a
>virtual one.
>
>You might want to try virtualbox which is free and and open source ,
>version 5 is very capable.
>
>There are loads of gotchas, too many to list.
>
>Cheers
>Amias
>
>On 5 March 2016 at 15:57, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk> wrote:
>> I?m pondering running my Debian systems on VMWare. Trouble is the VMW website doesn?t tell you much except how wonderful it is :)
>>
>> So,
>>
>> 1. Is there a free for commercial use option
>> 2. Is it simple to take a copy of a current install and turn into a VMW image
>> 3. How does network traffic know which VM to route to, or is it 1 eth port per VM
>> 3. Any gotcha?s I should know about
>>
>> Ta.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 17:22:53 +0000
From: Keith Edmunds <kae@midnighthax.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] VMWare
Message-ID: <20160305172253.3eb0fd63@ws.midnighthax.com>
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On Sat, 05 Mar 2016 17:17:49 +0000, martinm@it-helps.co.uk said:
> Is virtual box suitable for a high availability commercial environment?
If you use the commercial version, yes; however, Linux + KVM + Corosync +
Pacemaker is also suitable for an HA commercial environment, and is all
Open Source. Be aware that Pacemaker is non-trivial to set up correctly.
--
"Soccer is one of those things that the rest of world cares about more
than Americans do - you know, like healthcare, education and gun
control" - David Letterman
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 18:44:59 +0000
From: Keith Edmunds <kae@midnighthax.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] VMWare
Message-ID: <20160305184459.28c2e828@ws.midnighthax.com>
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Sorry, I misread the mail I replied to as "is VMware suitable...". I
wouldn't use VirtualBox for an HA commercial environment.
--
"Why does God hate me so much? Is it because I don't believe in him?" -
Sidney Morgenbesser
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 10:36:16 +0000
From: nick robinson <nick@njrobinson.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] VMWare
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Xen used to ship with Suse years ago. I used to to vm Windows and BSD. Not
sure what the state of it now is but it may be worth looking at
On 5 March 2016 at 15:57, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk> wrote:
> I?m pondering running my Debian systems on VMWare. Trouble is the VMW
> website doesn?t tell you much except how wonderful it is :)
>
> So,
>
> 1. Is there a free for commercial use option
> 2. Is it simple to take a copy of a current install and turn into a VMW
> image
> 3. How does network traffic know which VM to route to, or is it 1 eth port
> per VM
> 3. Any gotcha?s I should know about
>
> Ta.
>
>
>
>
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> Bristol mailing list
> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
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