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Today's Topics:

1. Re: LUG Meeting this Saturday (peternsomerset@virginmedia.com)
2. Re: Lost Fedora wifi after adding Mint 17! (grub) (Peter Hemmings)
3. Re: Lost Fedora wifi after adding Mint 17! (grub) (Shane McEwan)
4. Re: Lost Fedora wifi after adding Mint 17! (grub) (Peter Hemmings)
5. Re: Lost Fedora wifi after adding Mint 17! (grub) (Shane McEwan)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:12:12 +0300
From: peternsomerset@virginmedia.com
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LUG Meeting this Saturday
Message-ID: <1458821532.547414444@f25.my.com>
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Hope to be there about 2pm
--
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Peter H Thursday, 24 March 2016, 11:49am +00:00 from Sebastian < sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com> :

>Hi
>
>Turns out I haven't been for a few months now, but I do indeed intend to
>be at the LUG meeting this Saturday, and will probably be there about
>2:30pm. Who else is intending on being there and when?
>
>For anyone that does not know, we are usually at the back of the
>Knight's Templar Pub (
>https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/pubs/all-pubs/england/bristol/the-knights-templar-bristol
>) in Temple Quay near temple meads train station, at the back of it on
>the lower level, at the left by the plugs, or near there instead if
>someone else is already there. People usually turn up starting from 1pm
>with someone likely being there for sure at 1:30pm and then people
>usually leave about 5pm or a bit later.
>
>Hope to meet some new people there ideally as well.
>
>Come along for an informal meet with fellow
>Linux/opensource/freesoftware (free as in software freedom) enthusiasts,
>where we can talk tech, or show some tech to other people, or even give
>away some for free maybe, and other tech related things. You could also
>for example take the opportunity to discuss politics if you really want :).
>
>Easter Regards
>
>Sebastian
>
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:16:30 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Lost Fedora wifi after adding Mint 17! (grub)
Message-ID: <56F3E8AE.2000907@virginmedia.com>
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Hi,

On 24/03/16 11:10, Shane McEwan wrote:
> G'day!
>
> Try the Mint Boot Repair tool:
> https://mintguide.org/tools/37-restore-grub-boot-loader-in-linux-mint-after-installation-reinstallation-windows.html
>

Unfortunately the ppa function is not supported in my Mint 17 so cannot
activate repository/download boot-repair

I did an update-grub again and its still the same (last option in
"Advanced Menu" gives latest fc23).

Could this be anything to do with fc23 being on lvm!?

When I do an update it is quick picking up Mint/memtest but waits about
a minute before detecting Fedora.

>
> It will search all your disks for possible boot options and rebuild
> your Grub bootloader with sensible defaults.
>
> Shane.
>
Regards
--
Peter H



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:52:14 +0000
From: Shane McEwan <shane@mcewan.id.au>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Lost Fedora wifi after adding Mint 17! (grub)
Message-ID: <56F3F10E.2010501@mcewan.id.au>
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On 24/03/16 13:16, Peter Hemmings wrote:
> Unfortunately the ppa function is not supported in my Mint 17 so cannot
> activate repository/download boot-repair

sudo apt-get install python-software-properties

> I did an update-grub again and its still the same (last option in
> "Advanced Menu" gives latest fc23).
>
> Could this be anything to do with fc23 being on lvm!?

I think it's just that Mint has no idea what order it should put the
detected non-Mint kernels in the Grub menu.

I suspect you're going to need a custom Grub config because you've got a
custom setup. You can't expect the defaults to work all the time if
you're not running a default system. With a bit of trial and error you
can update the "GRUB_DEFAULT" variable in "/etc/default/grub" in Mint to
point to the kernel you want to boot by default. This page should help
you device what to set "GRUB_DEFAULT" to:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Submenus#Setting_a_Submenu_entry_as_the_default

Note that next time you update Fedora it will likely overwrite your grub
with its own configuration and you'll be back to square one. The joys of
dual-booting!

Shane.



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:07:04 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Lost Fedora wifi after adding Mint 17! (grub)
Message-ID: <56F40298.4030007@virginmedia.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed



On 24/03/16 13:52, Shane McEwan wrote:
> On 24/03/16 13:16, Peter Hemmings wrote:
>> Unfortunately the ppa function is not supported in my Mint 17 so cannot
>> activate repository/download boot-repair
>
> sudo apt-get install python-software-properties

OK will add that then will try the repair and see if it manages to sort
itself.

>
>> I did an update-grub again and its still the same (last option in
>> "Advanced Menu" gives latest fc23).
>>
>> Could this be anything to do with fc23 being on lvm!?
>
> I think it's just that Mint has no idea what order it should put the
> detected non-Mint kernels in the Grub menu.
>
> I suspect you're going to need a custom Grub config because you've got a
> custom setup.

Yep I think so.

You can't expect the defaults to work all the time if
> you're not running a default system. With a bit of trial and error you
> can update the "GRUB_DEFAULT" variable in "/etc/default/grub" in Mint to
> point to the kernel you want to boot by default. This page should help
> you device what to set "GRUB_DEFAULT" to:
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Submenus#Setting_a_Submenu_entry_as_the_default

OK

I assume the menu heading will remain the same. Even so it would be
better to set it to default.

I know Linux is all thing to all people on all distros, but I did not
think grub headings in menus were different, my Fedora Grub actually
shows different kernel numbers for each fc23 listed (in my case set to 3)!

>
>
> Note that next time you update Fedora it will likely overwrite your grub
> with its own configuration and you'll be back to square one. The joys of
> dual-booting!

Yea, but I can live with that, or change back to the Fedora grub if I
can remember what to do!

>
> Shane.
>
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Regards
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Peter H



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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:38:38 +0000
From: Shane McEwan <shane@mcewan.id.au>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Lost Fedora wifi after adding Mint 17! (grub)
Message-ID: <56F409FE.9070106@mcewan.id.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 24/03/16 15:07, Peter Hemmings wrote:
> I know Linux is all thing to all people on all distros, but I did not
> think grub headings in menus were different, my Fedora Grub actually
> shows different kernel numbers for each fc23 listed (in my case set to 3)!

Every distro has their own naming convention for grub entries. The grub
menu is completely customisable.

Customisation - Linux's greatest strength and the biggest weakness.

Shane.



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