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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Pretty Good Privacy (Alex Butcher)
2. Re: Pretty Good Privacy (Andy)
3. Suse 32bit v.13.1 (dave.hockin)
4. Suse 13.1 32bit install disk (d.hockinbt)
5. Drupal and CiviCRM training in Bristol (sean)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 12:11:28 +0000 (GMT)
From: Alex Butcher <lug@assursys.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Pretty Good Privacy
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.03.1402031209390.5876@nffheflf.pb.hx>
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On Mon, 3 Feb 2014, James Greenhalgh wrote:

> On 3 February 2014 10:30, Alex Butcher?<lug@assursys.co.uk>?wrote:
> Personally, I regard email crypto browser plugins as a last resort (because
> I don't consider browsers to be terribly secure internally, which may put
> your private keys at risk from attackers). ?
>
>
> The plugin has received an external security audit and includes some nice features to prevent leakage. In the unlikely event that my private key file was compromised it is protected with a long
> passphrase and I have the revocation certificate backed up offsite.

That's not my point. I think mailvelope probably does a good job of what it
does. But it depends on the security of the browser as a platform in a way
which I don't believe is as safe as a mature OS.

> James Greenhalgh

Best Regards,
Alex

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 13:56:06 +0000
From: Andy <andy@pepsplace.org.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Pretty Good Privacy
Message-ID: <52EF9FF6.7040904@pepsplace.org.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I agree, Alex. Webmail and encryption do not go well together under any
circumstances. If you must use a browser, then encrypt a file and send
it as an attachment.

Andy

On 03/02/14 12:11, Alex Butcher wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Feb 2014, James Greenhalgh wrote:
>
>> On 3 February 2014 10:30, Alex Butcher <lug@assursys.co.uk> wrote:
>> Personally, I regard email crypto browser plugins as a last
>> resort (because
>> I don't consider browsers to be terribly secure internally,
>> which may put
>> your private keys at risk from attackers).
>>
>>
>> The plugin has received an external security audit and includes some
>> nice features to prevent leakage. In the unlikely event that my
>> private key file was compromised it is protected with a long
>> passphrase and I have the revocation certificate backed up offsite.
>
> That's not my point. I think mailvelope probably does a good job of what it
> does. But it depends on the security of the browser as a platform in a way
> which I don't believe is as safe as a mature OS.
>
>> James Greenhalgh
>
> Best Regards,
> Alex
>
>
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--
Andy

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 17:58:27 -0000
From: "dave.hockin" <dave.hockin@btinternet.com>
To: "Bristol and Bath Linux User Group" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Suse 32bit v.13.1
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Could some kind group member get me an inatallable 32bit version of Suse
13.1, please.

The disk DVD180 from Linux format is only for 64bit, and that can't run
/install on my 32bit laptop. The LF disk might work on my desktop PC
(dualboot 12.1 and Win XPpro), but I haven't tried installing it on that
machine yet.

The laptop currently uses grub to dual boot v.12.1 and Win Home. I can't
download the file from Suse as its 4.7Gb and I only have 4.3 Gb free on the
Win partition!

I HAVE tried in the past to download a file using a desktop (XPpro) pc, but
struck file size problems, using bit torrent or just plain file download,
and also I have never had any success with the iso format anyway. Its been
a grand way to make loads of unworkable CDs in my experience!.

I looked on the Suse site to see that an update installation CAN be run from
within a suse installation, but the steps and the details are way beyond my
understanding, not to mention the warnings that THAT route is for experts
with dire results if it goes wrong!

On earlier versions of Suse, there was an update icon, that could do much of
this sort of thing, but on 12.1 its no longer there, and some of you have
warned in the past that "updating" is bad, and that only a new installation
is the safe way to go.

At 79 these technicalities are now long past me, but with the imminent
demise of support from microshaft for XP, I hope to struggle on with Suse
till its time to box me up and park me, and my pcs, for good. :(

Dave (Posset)





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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 17:59:44 -0000
From: "d.hockinbt" <d.hockin@btinternet.com>
To: "Bristol and Bath Linux User Group" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Suse 13.1 32bit install disk
Message-ID: <42A75510C9FC414FA912731DBEF55174@Dave3>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Could some kind group member get me an inatallable 32bit version of Suse 13.1, please.

The disk DVD180 from Linux format is only for 64bit, and that can't run /install on my 32bit laptop. The LF disk might work on my desktop PC (dualboot 12.1 and Win XPpro), but I haven't tried installing it on that machine yet.

The laptop currently uses grub to dual boot v.12.1 and Win Home. I can't download the file from Suse as its 4.7Gb and I only have 4.3 Gb free on the Win partition!

I HAVE tried in the past to download a file using a desktop (XPpro) pc, but struck file size problems, using bit torrent or just plain file download, and also I have never had any success with the iso format anyway. Its been a grand way to make loads of unworkable CDs in my experience!.

I looked on the Suse site to see that an update installation CAN be run from within a suse installation, but the steps and the details are way beyond my understanding, not to mention the warnings that THAT route is for experts with dire results if it goes wrong!

On earlier versions of Suse, there was an update icon, that could do much of this sort of thing, but on 12.1 its no longer there, and some of you have warned in the past that "updating" is bad, and that only a new installation is the safe way to go.

At 79 these technicalities are now long past me, but with the imminent demise of support from microshaft for XP, I hope to struggle on with Suse till its time to box me up and park me, and my pcs, for good. :(

Dave (Posset)
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 10:18:33 +0000
From: sean <seankenny@gmail.com>
To: bblug <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Drupal and CiviCRM training in Bristol
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Hi Bblugers,

apologies for the shameless marketing again, but we're running two one day
courses at the create centre this month you might be interested in (or
friends, colleagues, family? )

Feb 13th - Introduction to CiviCRM -
https://civicrm.org/civicrm/event/info?reset=1&id=378

Feb 25th - Introduction to Drupal -
http://www.circle-interactive.co.uk/drupal-training-25th-feb

Hope to see some of you there.

Cheers

Sean

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