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Today's Topics:
1. Suse root problem. (d.hockinbt)
2. Re: Suse root problem. (Neil Fraser)
3. Re: Suse root problem. (Roger Fletcher)
4. Re: Suse root problem. (xifer)
5. Re: Suse root problem. (Shane McEwan)
6. Re: Suse root problem. (Chris)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 16:48:07 +0100
From: "d.hockinbt" <d.hockin@btinternet.com>
To: "Bristol and Bath Linux User Group" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Suse root problem.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "d.hockinbt" <d.hockin@btinternet.com>
To: "Bristol and Bath Linux User Group" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [bristol] OT drivers
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "david" <david@avoncliff.com>
> To: <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 11:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [bristol] OT drivers
> I have just installed Suse 12.2 onto my 10 year old Advent laptop, to
> dualboot with XPhome, and it installed perfectly from the LXF disk, whilst
> a similar attempt with the previous v12.1 from LXF failed miserably!.
>
> And after a nail-biting hour or two of downloading 285 (!) updates from
> Suse, both Suse and Xp are runnng very happily, with Suse running at what
> looks like double the speed of XP !!!
>
> Dave (Posset)
However I DO find I have a problem!
Whilst in Suse I can read any file on the windows partition, I cannot find
any way of getting permission to write it back after editing!
I can't find anyway of changing and signing in as root, to alter the
permissions, which are greyed-out and listed as for the "owner".
In earlier versionsof Suse, if I did anything that required a root access,
even temporary, a box opened to invite me to sign in as root, and that
lasted just until I completed the work I wanted to do.
But Suse 12.2 isn't bringing up a sign-in box, and I can't find anywhere in
the system for me to do this! The start button, bottom left, that brings up
different menus, does have one line "change user", but nothing happens....
The other "funny" - a black bottom border to the screen, behind which all
"minimised" windows vanish for ever, today ISN'T there, thankfully, but I
dread minimising anything, as it will again vanish into a black hole,
iretrievably. Not a good move! Yesterday I had to crash the Linux as I had
no means of closing programmes, as they had disappeared into the black
"bit". So I have to just shrink windows on the desktop, and keep them
clogging up the view. Why that black border appears, I don't know.
All suggestions will be gratefully receivec, as long they don't recommend
RTFM - humans are kinder at helping .....
Dave (Posset) thinking he was making progress, as he IS liking Suse on this
laptop, being infinitely faster (and fun) than XP on the same machine!
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:12:50 +0100
From: Neil Fraser <nfraser@nadtechnology.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Suse root problem.
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Hi
Haven't tried SuSE for a while but Alt-F1 should bring up a system menu for
your use.
To switch between open programs use Alt-Tab - this will bring programs back
to their pre-minimised state. Multiple Alt-Tab lets you switch between all
the currently opened windows.
If you don't have a way of shutting down the graphical front end you can
switch to another (text based) terminal an login there so that you can run
the shutdown command.
Hope that helps.
Neil
On 21 October 2013 16:48, d.hockinbt <d.hockin@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "d.hockinbt" <d.hockin@btinternet.com>
> To: "Bristol and Bath Linux User Group" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 10:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [bristol] OT drivers
>
>
>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "david" <david@avoncliff.com>
>> To: <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
>> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 11:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [bristol] OT drivers
>> I have just installed Suse 12.2 onto my 10 year old Advent laptop, to
>> dualboot with XPhome, and it installed perfectly from the LXF disk, whilst
>> a similar attempt with the previous v12.1 from LXF failed miserably!.
>>
>> And after a nail-biting hour or two of downloading 285 (!) updates from
>> Suse, both Suse and Xp are runnng very happily, with Suse running at what
>> looks like double the speed of XP !!!
>>
>> Dave (Posset)
>>
>
> However I DO find I have a problem!
>
> Whilst in Suse I can read any file on the windows partition, I cannot
> find any way of getting permission to write it back after editing!
>
> I can't find anyway of changing and signing in as root, to alter the
> permissions, which are greyed-out and listed as for the "owner".
>
> In earlier versionsof Suse, if I did anything that required a root access,
> even temporary, a box opened to invite me to sign in as root, and that
> lasted just until I completed the work I wanted to do.
>
> But Suse 12.2 isn't bringing up a sign-in box, and I can't find anywhere
> in the system for me to do this! The start button, bottom left, that brings
> up different menus, does have one line "change user", but nothing
> happens....
>
> The other "funny" - a black bottom border to the screen, behind which all
> "minimised" windows vanish for ever, today ISN'T there, thankfully, but I
> dread minimising anything, as it will again vanish into a black hole,
> iretrievably. Not a good move! Yesterday I had to crash the Linux as I had
> no means of closing programmes, as they had disappeared into the black
> "bit". So I have to just shrink windows on the desktop, and keep them
> clogging up the view. Why that black border appears, I don't know.
>
> All suggestions will be gratefully receivec, as long they don't recommend
> RTFM - humans are kinder at helping .....
>
> Dave (Posset) thinking he was making progress, as he IS liking Suse on
> this laptop, being infinitely faster (and fun) than XP on the same machine!
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:22:37 +0100
From: Roger Fletcher <rogerlinux@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Suse root problem.
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On 21/10/13 16:48, d.hockinbt wrote:
> The other "funny" - a black bottom border to the screen, behind which
> all "minimised" windows vanish for ever, today ISN'T there, thankfully,
> but I dread minimising anything, as it will again vanish into a black
> hole, iretrievably. Not a good move! Yesterday I had to crash the Linux
> as I had no means of closing programmes, as they had disappeared into
> the black "bit". So I have to just shrink windows on the desktop, and
> keep them clogging up the view. Why that black border appears, I don't
> know.
Hi
Have you tried to turn off compositing (desktop effects) with the key
combination - Alt+Shift+F12? As your black bottom border sounds like a
graphical issue.
Cheers
Roger
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 23:31:02 +0100
From: xifer <xifer@aktivix.org>
To: rogerlinux@blueyonder.co.uk, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Suse root problem.
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On Monday 21 Oct 2013 18:22:37 Roger Fletcher wrote:
> On 21/10/13 16:48, d.hockinbt wrote:
> > The other "funny" - a black bottom border to the screen, behind which
> > all "minimised" windows vanish for ever, today ISN'T there, thankfully,
> > but I dread minimising anything, as it will again vanish into a black
> > hole, iretrievably. Not a good move! Yesterday I had to crash the Linux
> > as I had no means of closing programmes, as they had disappeared into
> > the black "bit". So I have to just shrink windows on the desktop, and
> > keep them clogging up the view. Why that black border appears, I don't
> > know.
>
> Hi
>
> Have you tried to turn off compositing (desktop effects) with the key
> combination - Alt+Shift+F12? As your black bottom border sounds like a
> graphical issue.
>
hjmm - or maybe... Seem to recall encountering that black space - the actual
desktop size was very large and my screen only showing a portion. don't
recall exactly what i was doing when i had that. but might be virtual desktop
related...
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 08:42:35 +0100
From: Shane McEwan <shane@mcewan.id.au>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Suse root problem.
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Is is possible that the black bar at the bottom of the screen is just an
empty panel? What happens when you Right-Click on the bar? Does it give
you a menu? If so, you might just need to add a Task Manager
app/widget/plasmoid/whatever-the-kids-call-it-these-days to the bar so
you can see your minimised programs.
Or try dragging the bar to a different edge of the screen so see if the
real panel is below it?
Shane.
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 09:19:26 +0100
From: Chris <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: "d.hockinbt" <d.hockin@btinternet.com>, Bristol and Bath Linux
User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Suse root problem.
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"d.hockinbt" <d.hockin@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "d.hockinbt" <d.hockin@btinternet.com>
>To: "Bristol and Bath Linux User Group" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
>Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 10:10 PM
>Subject: Re: [bristol] OT drivers
>
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "david" <david@avoncliff.com>
>> To: <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
>> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 11:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [bristol] OT drivers
>> I have just installed Suse 12.2 onto my 10 year old Advent laptop,
>to
>> dualboot with XPhome, and it installed perfectly from the LXF disk,
>whilst
>> a similar attempt with the previous v12.1 from LXF failed miserably!.
>>
>> And after a nail-biting hour or two of downloading 285 (!) updates
>from
>> Suse, both Suse and Xp are runnng very happily, with Suse running at
>what
>> looks like double the speed of XP !!!
>>
>> Dave (Posset)
>
>However I DO find I have a problem!
>
>Whilst in Suse I can read any file on the windows partition, I cannot
>find
>any way of getting permission to write it back after editing!
>
>I can't find anyway of changing and signing in as root, to alter the
>permissions, which are greyed-out and listed as for the "owner".
>
>In earlier versionsof Suse, if I did anything that required a root
>access,
>even temporary, a box opened to invite me to sign in as root, and that
>lasted just until I completed the work I wanted to do.
>
>But Suse 12.2 isn't bringing up a sign-in box, and I can't find
>anywhere in
>the system for me to do this! The start button, bottom left, that
>brings up
>different menus, does have one line "change user", but nothing
>happens....
>
>The other "funny" - a black bottom border to the screen, behind which
>all
>"minimised" windows vanish for ever, today ISN'T there, thankfully, but
>I
>dread minimising anything, as it will again vanish into a black hole,
>iretrievably. Not a good move! Yesterday I had to crash the Linux as I
>had
>no means of closing programmes, as they had disappeared into the black
>"bit". So I have to just shrink windows on the desktop, and keep them
>clogging up the view. Why that black border appears, I don't know.
>
>All suggestions will be gratefully receivec, as long they don't
>recommend
>RTFM - humans are kinder at helping .....
>
>Dave (Posset) thinking he was making progress, as he IS liking Suse on
>this
>laptop, being infinitely faster (and fun) than XP on the same machine!
>
>
Do you have a digital camera? It would be helpful to see a picture of the desktop.
KDE allows to resize, add and remove taskbars.
Do you have multiple monitors connected?
Chris
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