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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Where are people going / planning on going before the
wheels fully come off Skype? (Steve King)
2. Re: Stop Job timeout - Setting (Peter Hemmings)
3. debconf 16 sponsors (Steve King)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 09:27:29 +0100
From: "Steve King" <debian@invux.com>
To: "Bristol and Bath Linux User Group" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Where are people going / planning on going
before the wheels fully come off Skype?
Message-ID:
<81883c982316d4b01bf333a12cbbc583.squirrel@dazzle.invux.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

> Dear collected wisdom,
>
> I have to use Skype for a number of work related things. The quality of
> calls and reliability of the service has been dropping over the past
> couple of years and it's now getting to the unusable stage often enough
> to persuade people to move on-mass to something new. Microsoft's
> (unsurprising) lack of interest in the Linux client doesn't help either.
> Anyway, I figure other people here may have had similar experiences, so
> where do we suggest people go?
>
> Requirements:
>
> *. Actually fucking works. Reliably. And when it doesn't there is at
> least some kind of diagnostics on why not.
>
> *. Open protocol and Free Software clients for at least Linux. Clients
> that don't suck massively for Windows, Mac, maybe the obvious phones.
>
> *. Two person and multi-party text and voice. Video ... does anyone
> actually use it, productively, for anything other than porn?
>
> *. Secure against external attackers and hostile (or at least greedy and
> self-interested) server providers.
>
> *. Don't have to sign-up for everything + dog just to use.
>
> I mean, it's 2016, is this really too much to ask?
>
> Once this gets out of beta:
>
> https://whispersystems.org/blog/signal-desktop/
>
> then I suspect it is the right answer but ... are there any others? I'm
> aware of:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_VoIP_software
>
> but I'm more interested in people's experience / views as that one
> cannot reliably find by searching the net.
>
> Cheers,
> - Martin
>
>
>
I have never used this, but it seems to me that they are trying to do it
the right way:

https://tox.chat/

I think your main problem will be that it is not very mature yet.
--
Steve




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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 09:31:26 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Stop Job timeout - Setting
Message-ID: <570B60DE.2000007@virginmedia.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"

On 06/04/16 14:30, Peter Hemmings wrote:
> > Until I can sort out what is causing my intermittent delayed >
shutdown, I decided to reduce the time spent waiting from 90 seconds >
to 30. > > On my fc23 I changed "DefaultTimeoutStopSec=90s" to 30s in >
/etc/systemd/system.conf. > > But I am still waiting 90 seconds!,
should I have changed something > else?
Sorted, I changed the text OK but left the hash!

I have confirmed it does not happen when I log off and then reboot (as
found by others with the problem).

I am now found the following "Shutdown Completes Eventually" in this
article:

https://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/

Can someone confirm where exactly to put the grub text to make it permanent?

I assume I will need to do a/"grub2/-/mkconfig/ -o
/boot/grub2/grub.cfg" to remake the menu's.

I have recently removed some services and shutdown has not yet been a
problem, so I may have solved it, but it would be nice to be able to
read the shutdown log in case i happens again!

Regards
--
Peter H

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 11:50:54 +0100
From: "Steve King" <debian@invux.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: [bristol] debconf 16 sponsors
Message-ID:
<5b9f41af8d2f4dbbc408c07b36559657.squirrel@dazzle.invux.com>
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On seeing the silver sponsors of debconf 16

https://debconf16.debconf.org/

Has hell actually frozen over?

--
Steve




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