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Today's Topics:
1. Microsoft vows to stop all patent lawsuites and threats
against Linux (Sebastian)
2. Re: Module Queries (was Grub2 and Fedora 23) (Alex Butcher)
3. Re: Module Queries (was Grub2 and Fedora 23)
(peternsomerset@virginmedia.com)
4. Re: Module Queries (was Grub2 and Fedora 23) (Nigel Sollars)
5. Where are people going / planning on going before the wheels
fully come off Skype? (Martin)
6. Re: Where are people going / planning on going before the
wheels fully come off Skype? (Ioan Loosley)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 15:07:44 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: [bristol] Microsoft vows to stop all patent lawsuites and
threats against Linux
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Microsoft Vows to Stop All Patent Law suites and Threats Against Linux,
plus to drop Existing Secret Settlements and NDAs:
http://techrights.org/2016/03/31/satya-nadella-on-swpats/
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 16:00:42 +0100 (BST)
From: Alex Butcher <lug@assursys.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Module Queries (was Grub2 and Fedora 23)
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On Fri, 1 Apr 2016, Peter Hemmings wrote:
> On 01/04/16 10:08, Alex Butcher wrote:
>> Or, stop dual-booting (I'd instead highly recommend running test OSes
>> in a virtual machine, e.g. as provided by VirtualBox).
>
> OK but every time I have tried that VM ran v e r y s l o w and caused
> problems shutting down.
>
> My HW is 13 years old! I upgraded the CPU, but its only T60 with a T7200 dual
> core cpu 64bit and 4Gb ram.
Tsh.
I was running pre-releases of VMware on my 32MB 486DX4-100 back in 1998,
allocating 8MB to Windows 95.
Seriously, make sure you're using appopriate settings and don't
over-provision the VMs, and you should be fine.
Best Regards,
Alex
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 20:20:50 +0300
From: peternsomerset@virginmedia.com
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Module Queries (was Grub2 and Fedora 23)
Message-ID: <1459531250.760827207@f5.my.com>
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I will have another try!
--
Sent from myMail app for Android Friday, 01 April 2016, 04:00pm +01:00 from Alex Butcher < lug@assursys.co.uk> :
>On Fri, 1 Apr 2016, Peter Hemmings wrote:
>> On 01/04/16 10:08, Alex Butcher wrote:
>>> Or, stop dual-booting (I'd instead highly recommend running test OSes
>>> in a virtual machine, e.g. as provided by VirtualBox).
>>
>> OK but every time I have tried that VM ran v e r y s l o w and caused
>> problems shutting down.
>>
>> My HW is 13 years old! I upgraded the CPU, but its only T60 with a T7200 dual
>> core cpu 64bit and 4Gb ram.
>
>Tsh.
>
>I was running pre-releases of VMware on my 32MB 486DX4-100 back in 1998,
>allocating 8MB to Windows 95.
>
>Seriously, make sure you're using appopriate settings and don't
>over-provision the VMs, and you should be fine.
>
>Best Regards,
>Alex
>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 14:05:07 -0400
From: Nigel Sollars <nsollars@gmail.com>
To: peternsomerset@virginmedia.com, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Module Queries (was Grub2 and Fedora 23)
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Just to add alittle,
The new VBox setting to make sure you set correct is under the main System
tab labeled Paravirtualization Interface.
For Linux Guests use KVM and Win32 use Hyper-V. On an Icore 7 this version
is very snappy but with Win32 Guests when under load it tends to Bomb /
Abort. I have Ubuntu Debian and FC VM's in my setup and have found no
issues with Linux Guests..
My Host System is FC 23, just for completeness.
Nige
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 19:48:56 +0100
From: Martin <inkubus@interalpha.co.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: [bristol] Where are people going / planning on going before
the wheels fully come off Skype?
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Dear collected wisdom,
I have to use Skype for a number of work related things. The quality of
calls and reliability of the service has been dropping over the past
couple of years and it's now getting to the unusable stage often enough
to persuade people to move on-mass to something new. Microsoft's
(unsurprising) lack of interest in the Linux client doesn't help either.
Anyway, I figure other people here may have had similar experiences, so
where do we suggest people go?
Requirements:
*. Actually fucking works. Reliably. And when it doesn't there is at
least some kind of diagnostics on why not.
*. Open protocol and Free Software clients for at least Linux. Clients
that don't suck massively for Windows, Mac, maybe the obvious phones.
*. Two person and multi-party text and voice. Video ... does anyone
actually use it, productively, for anything other than porn?
*. Secure against external attackers and hostile (or at least greedy and
self-interested) server providers.
*. Don't have to sign-up for everything + dog just to use.
I mean, it's 2016, is this really too much to ask?
Once this gets out of beta:
https://whispersystems.org/blog/signal-desktop/
then I suspect it is the right answer but ... are there any others? I'm
aware of:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_VoIP_software
but I'm more interested in people's experience / views as that one
cannot reliably find by searching the net.
Cheers,
- Martin
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 20:35:54 +0100
From: Ioan Loosley <legit.ioangogo@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Where are people going / planning on going
before the wheels fully come off Skype?
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Jisti meet is a nice one that is based on webrtc meaning you just share a
link in most cases
On 1 April 2016 at 19:48, Martin <inkubus@interalpha.co.uk> wrote:
> Dear collected wisdom,
>
> I have to use Skype for a number of work related things. The quality of
> calls and reliability of the service has been dropping over the past
> couple of years and it's now getting to the unusable stage often enough
> to persuade people to move on-mass to something new. Microsoft's
> (unsurprising) lack of interest in the Linux client doesn't help either.
> Anyway, I figure other people here may have had similar experiences, so
> where do we suggest people go?
>
> Requirements:
>
> *. Actually fucking works. Reliably. And when it doesn't there is at
> least some kind of diagnostics on why not.
>
> *. Open protocol and Free Software clients for at least Linux. Clients
> that don't suck massively for Windows, Mac, maybe the obvious phones.
>
> *. Two person and multi-party text and voice. Video ... does anyone
> actually use it, productively, for anything other than porn?
>
> *. Secure against external attackers and hostile (or at least greedy and
> self-interested) server providers.
>
> *. Don't have to sign-up for everything + dog just to use.
>
> I mean, it's 2016, is this really too much to ask?
>
> Once this gets out of beta:
>
> https://whispersystems.org/blog/signal-desktop/
>
> then I suspect it is the right answer but ... are there any others? I'm
> aware of:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_VoIP_software
>
> but I'm more interested in people's experience / views as that one
> cannot reliably find by searching the net.
>
> Cheers,
> - Martin
>
>
>
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