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Today's Topics:

1. HELP - OO cannot print A5! (Peter Hemmings)
2. Re: HELP - OO cannot print A5! (nick robinson)
3. Re: HELP - OO cannot print A5! (Peter Hemmings)
4. Re: HELP - OO cannot print A5! (david)
5. Re: HELP - OO cannot print A5! (Amias Channer)
6. Re: HELP - OO cannot print A5! (Peter Hemmings)
7. Re: HELP - OO cannot print A5! (Peter Hemmings)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 19:49:43 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] HELP - OO cannot print A5!
Message-ID: <5717CF47.6040705@virginmedia.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Hi,

I need to print some A5 leaflets from an old leaflet odt file and cannot
do it any longer.

I set the page in OO to A5 and orientation to Portrait OK but when I got
to print and view printer properties it is set to A4 landscape and
"greyed out" so cannot change it.

I think this has happened somehow in an upgrade as it used to work!

I had this problem a long time ago but cannot remember what caused it,
I must admit to doing the windoze thing and re-installed the printer
(Epson R300), but it still will not print.

Any ideas on how to sort it out?

Thanks
--
Peter H

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 08:52:34 +0100
From: nick robinson <nick@njrobinson.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] HELP - OO cannot print A5!
Message-ID:
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Try print to PDF and see if you can change the page settings once that's
selected. Should tell you whether its the printer or OO which is
uncooperative.

On 20 April 2016 at 19:49, Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I need to print some A5 leaflets from an old leaflet odt file and cannot
> do it any longer.
>
> I set the page in OO to A5 and orientation to Portrait OK but when I got
> to print and view printer properties it is set to A4 landscape and "greyed
> out" so cannot change it.
>
> I think this has happened somehow in an upgrade as it used to work!
>
> I had this problem a long time ago but cannot remember what caused it, I
> must admit to doing the windoze thing and re-installed the printer (Epson
> R300), but it still will not print.
>
> Any ideas on how to sort it out?
>
> Thanks
> --
> Peter H
>
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Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 09:41:31 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] HELP - OO cannot print A5!
Message-ID: <5718923B.2080208@virginmedia.com>
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On 21/04/16 08:52, nick robinson wrote:
> Try print to PDF and see if you can change the page settings once that's
> selected. Should tell you whether its the printer or OO which is
> uncooperative.

Exported odf A5 page as pdf, closed OO writer then re-opened odf.

All OO format seems OK (A5 Portrait) but when I come to look at Printer
Settings/Printer Setup/Properties/Properties of Stylus-Photo-R300, I
get Paper Size A4 (greyed out), Orientation Portrait (greyed out) and
Paper tray Standard.

So can I assume its the driver (I have have already deleted and
re-installed the printer)?

>
> On 20 April 2016 at 19:49, Peter Hemmings
> <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com <mailto:peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I need to print some A5 leaflets from an old leaflet odt file and
> cannot do it any longer.
>
> I set the page in OO to A5 and orientation to Portrait OK but when I
> got to print and view printer properties it is set to A4 landscape
> and "greyed out" so cannot change it.
>
> I think this has happened somehow in an upgrade as it used to work!
>
> I had this problem a long time ago but cannot remember what caused
> it, I must admit to doing the windoze thing and re-installed the
> printer (Epson R300), but it still will not print.
>
> Any ideas on how to sort it out?
>
> Thanks
> --
> Peter H
>
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 09:47:25 +0100
From: david <david@avoncliff.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] HELP - OO cannot print A5!
Message-ID: <5718939D.9090400@avoncliff.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 21/04/16 09:41, Peter Hemmings wrote:
>
> On 21/04/16 08:52, nick robinson wrote:
>> Try print to PDF and see if you can change the page settings once that's
>> selected. Should tell you whether its the printer or OO which is
>> uncooperative.
>
> Exported odf A5 page as pdf, closed OO writer then re-opened odf.
>
> All OO format seems OK (A5 Portrait) but when I come to look at Printer
> Settings/Printer Setup/Properties/Properties of Stylus-Photo-R300, I
> get Paper Size A4 (greyed out), Orientation Portrait (greyed out) and
> Paper tray Standard.
>
> So can I assume its the driver (I have have already deleted and
> re-installed the printer)?
>
Peter
Are you wanting to print on a piece of A5 paper, or print a A5 image on
A4 paper?
David

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 09:53:15 +0100
From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] HELP - OO cannot print A5!
Message-ID: <1461228795.25363.1.camel@amias.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

On Thu, 2016-04-21 at 09:41 +0100, Peter Hemmings wrote:
> All OO format seems OK (A5 Portrait) but when I come to look at
> Printer Settings/Printer Setup/Properties/Properties of Stylus-Photo
> -R300, I
> get Paper Size A4 (greyed out), Orientation Portrait (greyed out) and
> Paper tray Standard

a4 is two peices of a5 next to each other.

i would create a new a4 document and copy/paste in two of the a5
documents then try to print.

i think your printer is refusing to accept a single a5 because it
only has a4 paper.

Cheers
Amias

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 10:06:22 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] HELP - OO cannot print A5!
Message-ID: <5718980E.1030203@virginmedia.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

On 21/04/16 09:47, david wrote:
> On 21/04/16 09:41, Peter Hemmings wrote:
>>
>> On 21/04/16 08:52, nick robinson wrote:
>>> Try print to PDF and see if you can change the page settings once that's
>>> selected. Should tell you whether its the printer or OO which is
>>> uncooperative.
>>
>> Exported odf A5 page as pdf, closed OO writer then re-opened odf.
>>
>> All OO format seems OK (A5 Portrait) but when I come to look at Printer
>> Settings/Printer Setup/Properties/Properties of Stylus-Photo-R300, I
>> get Paper Size A4 (greyed out), Orientation Portrait (greyed out) and
>> Paper tray Standard.
>>
>> So can I assume its the driver (I have have already deleted and
>> re-installed the printer)?
>>
> Peter
> Are you wanting to print on a piece of A5 paper,

Yes

or print a A5 image on
> A4 paper?
> David
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 10:10:04 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] HELP - OO cannot print A5!
Message-ID: <571898EC.5070403@virginmedia.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

On 21/04/16 09:53, Amias Channer wrote:
> On Thu, 2016-04-21 at 09:41 +0100, Peter Hemmings wrote:
>> All OO format seems OK (A5 Portrait) but when I come to look at
>> Printer Settings/Printer Setup/Properties/Properties of Stylus-Photo
>> -R300, I
>> get Paper Size A4 (greyed out), Orientation Portrait (greyed out) and
>> Paper tray Standard
>
>
> a4 is two peices of a5 next to each other.
>
> i would create a new a4 document and copy/paste in two of the a5
> documents then try to print.
>
> i think your printer is refusing to accept a single a5 because it
> only has a4 paper.

No, it can (could!) print A5 directly even if it had A4 sheets in the
feeder (the feeder width can be adjusted)

>
> Cheers
> Amias
>
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Have to go out now, back later to answer your questions!

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Cloud backups (Martin Moore)
2. Re: Cloud backups (Keith Edmunds)
3. Re: Cloud backups (Martin Moore)
4. Re: Mailer for Android (James Cownie)
5. Re: Cloud backups (Ian Plain)

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 18:07:41 +0100
From: Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Cloud backups
Message-ID: <F68643E9-C401-4242-9073-0A8F1911E02B@it-helps.co.uk>
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Rsync.net is pricey. I?ll poke around s3 clients.

Martin.

From: Bristol <bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk> on behalf of nick robinson <nick@njrobinson.net>
Reply-To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Date: Friday, 15 April 2016 at 10:19
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Cloud backups

There are some really good amazon s3 clients which are free.
Personally i've been wanting to try rsync.net. you can use either standard rsync or combine it with zfs for an amazingly quick backup. bit more expensive but no usage fees.

On 15 April 2016 at 09:47, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk> wrote:

I currently use BackupPC to back up my servers to a single dedicated server. It works fine, but if I move the backups into the cloud I can save money and have less to maintain.

So, what has similar functionality to BackupPC (good web interface for status, restore etc.; pooling to save space; open source/free).

And what?s a good, sensibly priced, secure option for storage that integrates with the backup s/w?

Cheers,

Martin.

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 18:55:06 +0100
From: Keith Edmunds <kae@midnighthax.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Cloud backups
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On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 18:07:41 +0100, martinm@it-helps.co.uk said:

> Rsync.net is pricey. I?ll poke around s3 clients.

$10/month for 50GB of storage is not pricey! Once possible issue with s3
storage is that it may be harder to work out the cost in advance (but if
you find good storage that is significantly cheaper than rsync.net then do
let us all know).
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of impotence" - Jo Brand

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 19:17:45 +0100
From: Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Cloud backups
Message-ID: <7C55B597-339F-45C7-8A7A-1F3EC1950ACF@it-helps.co.uk>
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I?d be looking at considerably more than that though - which becomes more than paying for hosting my own server.
S3 certainly looks like a good storage choice though.

On 15/04/2016, 18:55, "Bristol on behalf of Keith Edmunds" <bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk on behalf of kae@midnighthax.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 18:07:41 +0100, martinm@it-helps.co.uk said:
>
>> Rsync.net is pricey. I?ll poke around s3 clients.
>
>$10/month for 50GB of storage is not pricey! Once possible issue with s3
>storage is that it may be harder to work out the cost in advance (but if
>you find good storage that is significantly cheaper than rsync.net then do
>let us all know).
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>of impotence" - Jo Brand
>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 20:02:53 +0100
From: James Cownie <jcownie@cantab.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Mailer for Android
Message-ID: <007B8E91-6748-4C37-8842-F455FC5CC97F@cantab.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

> Wish there was a sane emacs to use?

I am fairly sure there is an emacs for Android, (yes, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zielm.emacs <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zielm.emacs>) but it seems hard to enter control characters without a proper keyboard, which makes using it non-trivial, since my left little finger sits on ctrl when using Emacs!

--
-- Jim
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> On 13 Apr 2016, at 13:52, jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Maybe a little off-topic but I am slowly trying to join the last decade
> of the 20th century. Current task is to be able to send email from
> my phone which is NOT html (which is an abomination). So far I have
> tried gmail and typeapp but both send html and I could not find any way
> to turn it off.
> Wish there was a sane emacs to use...
> ==John ffitch
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 20:07:45 +0100
From: Ian Plain <ian@cyber-cottage.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Cloud backups
Message-ID:
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If Linux then s3cmd with let you write your own scripts and aws does also
have the cli commands that can be installed and scripted

Ian

On Friday, 15 April 2016, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk> wrote:

> Rsync.net is pricey. I?ll poke around s3 clients.
>
>
> Martin.
>
> From: Bristol <bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk');>> on
> behalf of nick robinson <nick@njrobinson.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','nick@njrobinson.net');>>
> Reply-To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk');>>
> Date: Friday, 15 April 2016 at 10:19
> To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk');>>
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Cloud backups
>
> There are some really good amazon s3 clients which are free.
> Personally i've been wanting to try rsync.net. you can use either
> standard rsync or combine it with zfs for an amazingly quick backup. bit
> more expensive but no usage fees.
>
> On 15 April 2016 at 09:47, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','martinm@it-helps.co.uk');>> wrote:
>
>>
>> I currently use BackupPC to back up my servers to a single dedicated
>> server. It works fine, but if I move the backups into the cloud I can save
>> money and have less to maintain.
>>
>> So, what has similar functionality to BackupPC (good web interface for
>> status, restore etc.; pooling to save space; open source/free).
>>
>> And what?s a good, sensibly priced, secure option for storage that
>> integrates with the backup s/w?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Martin.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 09:47:28 +0100
From: Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Cloud backups
Message-ID: <3C36C378-6293-46EC-A7E4-27A6C01F2892@it-helps.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I currently use BackupPC to back up my servers to a single dedicated server. It works fine, but if I move the backups into the cloud I can save money and have less to maintain.

So, what has similar functionality to BackupPC (good web interface for status, restore etc.; pooling to save space; open source/free).

And what?s a good, sensibly priced, secure option for storage that integrates with the backup s/w?

Cheers,

Martin.

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 10:19:34 +0100
From: nick robinson <nick@njrobinson.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Cloud backups
Message-ID:
<CADo8qK5k4KZ2rqPBq4ThmOxqjXGCt0uy-aHZ5kiob-hSNNMOzg@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

There are some really good amazon s3 clients which are free.
Personally i've been wanting to try rsync.net. you can use either standard
rsync or combine it with zfs for an amazingly quick backup. bit more
expensive but no usage fees.

On 15 April 2016 at 09:47, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk> wrote:

>
> I currently use BackupPC to back up my servers to a single dedicated
> server. It works fine, but if I move the backups into the cloud I can save
> money and have less to maintain.
>
> So, what has similar functionality to BackupPC (good web interface for
> status, restore etc.; pooling to save space; open source/free).
>
> And what?s a good, sensibly priced, secure option for storage that
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Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 10:31:49 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: "steve.plenty@yahoo.co.uk" <steve.plenty@yahoo.co.uk>, Bristol and
Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, Sebastian
<sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: [bristol] Next weeks LUG Meeting was Ubuntu Tablet and etc
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Hi Steve

Oh thought that was reply to my email's contents, but nope.

Yeah I remember you sort of to some extent, it's been over two years.

The next LUG Meeting is actually coming up quite soon, Saturday next
week. I really intend to be at that one myself as well, since I haven't
been since I think it was October and really feels like that now as
well. Turn up at about 2pm and someone will probably be already there
at The Knights Templar Pub and we sit on the lower level at the back
usually, with people leaving about 5:30pm usually.

There's a parcel that's waiting to be picked up, but I have a feeling it
could be something quite interesting that I crowd funded last year, so
if I got that before the meeting I am bringing that along with me.

I wonder who else will be at the LUG meeting as well?

Regards

Sebastian

On 15/04/16 09:35, Steve Plenty wrote:
> Hi Sebastian,
>
> I'm steve I meet you at linux live... I would like to cone to tge LUG
> meetings but on the website it is last years dates can you send me the
> right date by email and I am a member.
>
> Thank you Steve Plenty
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android>
>
> On Fri, 15 Apr, 2016 at 7:45, Sebastian
> <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Did anyone order a Ubuntu Tablet other than me here? Some people are
> starting to receive them now (
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/bq-m10-ubuntu-tablet-shipping-now
> <http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/bq-m10-ubuntu-tablet-shipping-now%20>)
>
> but I didn't pre order one early, so maybe got another week or two to
> wait yet. I read this a bit earlier this morning and I thought it
> was
> worth a share here:
> http://freedompenguin.com/the-linux-crowd/ubuntu-tablet-im-grabbing-one/
>
> Looks like the pre order offer is still available for now where a
> case
> and screen protector will be included as well:
> https://store.bq.com/gl/ubuntu-edition
>
> For any of you who do not know, the main reason most people who have
> bought the tablet are wanting the tablet is since the convergence
> feature, that will adjust the interface depending on what's
> connected to
> it, keyboard, mouse, and monitor, but also by default allow desktop
> programs to work on it such as Firefox, Libre Office, The Gimp, and
> Gedit. However the defaults are going to be a bit boring of course
> for
> such programs and so lots of people will be apt-get ing lots of other
> programs it seems once it's set up to do that. Got to put the
> tablet in
> read write mode currently, which also stops it receiving over the air
> updates.
>
> There's also a x86 Ubuntu tablet trying to get crowd funded it seems,
> but I don't have interest in buying that:
> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ubuntu-windows-tablet-mj-technology,31330.html
> <http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ubuntu-windows-tablet-mj-technology,31330.html%20>
> I seriously have more interest in possibly buying this though:
> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gpd-win-intel-z8550-win-10-os-game-console#/story
> <https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gpd-win-intel-z8550-win-10-os-game-console#/story%20>
> Even though going by the Indiegogo comments how well it works with a
> Linux distro or not is questionable. However Windows 10 for a Windows
> version is sort of ok (okish) really so woudn't?t be to bad for a
> small
> using at times gaming/PC device.
>
> When I saw the crowd funding campaign for the GPD Win it reminded
> me of
> the Linux based Open Pandora (
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_%28console%29
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_%28console%29%20>
> https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/pages/pandora/
> <https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/pages/pandora/%20>) which I was
> considering maybe buying a few years back, but never did. That's
> currently out of stock it seems whilst a device update is being
> waited
> for it seems. Interestingly though I noticed that the GPD XD with
> less
> storage space than what's currently being offered on Indiegogo as a
> limited 128GB edition (
> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gpd-xd-limited-edition-with-memory-of-128gb#/
> <https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gpd-xd-limited-edition-with-memory-of-128gb#/%20>
> ) is available in the Open Pandora shop.
>
> Like with the GPD Win I am thinking of maybe buying the GPD XD
> with the
> 128GB storage, even though I am not a gamer. However I do prefer
> classic styled games, or retro gaming even as I believe it's called
> these days. The GPD XD is a maybe, to go with a possible GPD Win.
> Actually would the GPD Win be worth it, or mostly a waste of money
> really? Same for the GPD XD? it was more of a if I buy the GPD Win
> I may
> as well buy the GPD XD with lots of storage space as well, I guess.
> What's a bit annoying though is that any tech such as what's been
> mentioned in this email (with the exception of the below Nexdock) is
> always going to be around the ?200 pounds mark, as in about ?200
> pounds. Also yes the two GPD devices I have mentioned are crowd
> funded
> so there could be issues receiving or trying to recieve them, but GPD
> have actually sold devices before, such as the GPD XD with less
> storage
> space.
>
> I am really looking forward to receiving my Nexdock (
> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nexdock-the-world-s-most-affordable-laptop--2#/
> <https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nexdock-the-world-s-most-affordable-laptop--2#/%20>
> ) which is nearly on it's last day of funding and then won't be
> available to buy any more at all, that version. I emailed here
> about it
> before with no response, but yes it can have various Linux devices
> connected to it. I am going to be connecting Raspberry Pi's to it it
> seems, but also my Remix Mini's, and it seems Ubuntu Phones as well,
> etc. It may look like a thing for Windows 10 or mostly going by a
> quick
> look at the campaign, but look at the campaign closely it is a
> general
> purpose device, for Linux, Android, etc as well :), and even giving a
> lap top another monitor like if it was connected to a TV.
>
>
> Best Regards
>
> Sebastian
>
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 21:36:19 +0100
From: Phil Hudson <phil.hudson@iname.com>
To: Bristol and Bath linux Users Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Android GPL AV
Message-ID: <87wpo02aik.fsf@quiz.hudson-it.ddns.net>
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I see that Clam AV is not available for Android. Anyone know of any
freedom-respecting AV software for Android?

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@UWascalWabbit PGP/GnuPG ID: 0x887DCA63

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 21:49:51 +0100
From: Ioan Loosley <legit.ioangogo@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Android GPL AV
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Its kind of hard to get a virus on android so it not much as a problem as
the AV companys are making out, just use fdroid for utilities and get the
main stream apps only from gplay

On 14 April 2016 at 21:36, Phil Hudson <phil.hudson@iname.com> wrote:

> I see that Clam AV is not available for Android. Anyone know of any
> freedom-respecting AV software for Android?
>
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> @UWascalWabbit PGP/GnuPG ID: 0x887DCA63
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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 22:43:21 +0100
From: Phil Hudson <phil.hudson@iname.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Android GPL AV
Message-ID: <87shyn3lza.fsf@quiz.hudson-it.ddns.net>
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On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 at 9:49:51 pm BST, Ioan Loosley <legit.ioangogo@gmail.com> wrote:

> Its kind of hard to get a virus on android so it not much as a problem as the AV
> companys are making out, just use fdroid for utilities and get the main stream
> apps only from gplay
>
> On 14 April 2016 at 21:36, Phil Hudson <phil.hudson@iname.com> wrote:
>
> I see that Clam AV is not available for Android. Anyone know of any
> freedom-respecting AV software for Android?

Thanks Ioan. That's what I thought. Somebody less savvy asked me to
check, after showing me what looked to me like sub-ethical AV software
bundled by Asus on their Android tablets. You know the kind of thing:
hey look, there's a big but unspecified exploit, suggested fix being to
buy their full featured product. I gave it short shrift but I thought
I'd check for a reputable product I could recommend anyway, since
experience tells me that some people won't be satisfied by "don't
bother". It's going to be coming up regularly as I'm volunteering
teaching an introductory Android tablet course for seniors over the next
few weeks.

--
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@UWascalWabbit PGP/GnuPG ID: 0x887DCA63

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 07:45:40 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: [bristol] Ubuntu Tablet and etc
Message-ID: <57108E14.5020002@gmx.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Hi

Did anyone order a Ubuntu Tablet other than me here? Some people are
starting to receive them now (
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/bq-m10-ubuntu-tablet-shipping-now )
but I didn't pre order one early, so maybe got another week or two to
wait yet. I read this a bit earlier this morning and I thought it was
worth a share here:
http://freedompenguin.com/the-linux-crowd/ubuntu-tablet-im-grabbing-one/

Looks like the pre order offer is still available for now where a case
and screen protector will be included as well:
https://store.bq.com/gl/ubuntu-edition

For any of you who do not know, the main reason most people who have
bought the tablet are wanting the tablet is since the convergence
feature, that will adjust the interface depending on what's connected to
it, keyboard, mouse, and monitor, but also by default allow desktop
programs to work on it such as Firefox, Libre Office, The Gimp, and
Gedit. However the defaults are going to be a bit boring of course for
such programs and so lots of people will be apt-get ing lots of other
programs it seems once it's set up to do that. Got to put the tablet in
read write mode currently, which also stops it receiving over the air
updates.

There's also a x86 Ubuntu tablet trying to get crowd funded it seems,
but I don't have interest in buying that:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ubuntu-windows-tablet-mj-technology,31330.html
I seriously have more interest in possibly buying this though:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gpd-win-intel-z8550-win-10-os-game-console#/story
Even though going by the Indiegogo comments how well it works with a
Linux distro or not is questionable. However Windows 10 for a Windows
version is sort of ok (okish) really so woudn't?t be to bad for a small
using at times gaming/PC device.

When I saw the crowd funding campaign for the GPD Win it reminded me of
the Linux based Open Pandora (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_%28console%29
https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/pages/pandora/ ) which I was
considering maybe buying a few years back, but never did. That's
currently out of stock it seems whilst a device update is being waited
for it seems. Interestingly though I noticed that the GPD XD with less
storage space than what's currently being offered on Indiegogo as a
limited 128GB edition (
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gpd-xd-limited-edition-with-memory-of-128gb#/
) is available in the Open Pandora shop.

Like with the GPD Win I am thinking of maybe buying the GPD XD with the
128GB storage, even though I am not a gamer. However I do prefer
classic styled games, or retro gaming even as I believe it's called
these days. The GPD XD is a maybe, to go with a possible GPD Win.
Actually would the GPD Win be worth it, or mostly a waste of money
really? Same for the GPD XD? it was more of a if I buy the GPD Win I may
as well buy the GPD XD with lots of storage space as well, I guess.
What's a bit annoying though is that any tech such as what's been
mentioned in this email (with the exception of the below Nexdock) is
always going to be around the ?200 pounds mark, as in about ?200
pounds. Also yes the two GPD devices I have mentioned are crowd funded
so there could be issues receiving or trying to recieve them, but GPD
have actually sold devices before, such as the GPD XD with less storage
space.

I am really looking forward to receiving my Nexdock (
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nexdock-the-world-s-most-affordable-laptop--2#/
) which is nearly on it's last day of funding and then won't be
available to buy any more at all, that version. I emailed here about it
before with no response, but yes it can have various Linux devices
connected to it. I am going to be connecting Raspberry Pi's to it it
seems, but also my Remix Mini's, and it seems Ubuntu Phones as well,
etc. It may look like a thing for Windows 10 or mostly going by a quick
look at the campaign, but look at the campaign closely it is a general
purpose device, for Linux, Android, etc as well :), and even giving a
lap top another monitor like if it was connected to a TV.

Best Regards

Sebastian

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 08:35:12 +0000 (UTC)
From: Steve Plenty <steve.plenty@yahoo.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Ubuntu Tablet and etc
Message-ID:
<2006964522.1406946.1460709312719.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi Sebastian,
I'm steve I meet you at linux live... I would like to cone to tge LUG meetings but on the website it is last years dates can you send me the right date by email and I am a member.
Thank you Steve Plenty

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

On Fri, 15 Apr, 2016 at 7:45, Sebastian<sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com> wrote: Hi

Did anyone order a Ubuntu Tablet other than me here?? Some people are
starting to receive them now (
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/bq-m10-ubuntu-tablet-shipping-now )
but I didn't pre order one early, so maybe got another week or two to
wait yet.? I read this a bit earlier this morning and I thought it was
worth a share here:
http://freedompenguin.com/the-linux-crowd/ubuntu-tablet-im-grabbing-one/

Looks like the pre order offer is still available for now where a case
and screen protector will be included as well:
https://store.bq.com/gl/ubuntu-edition

For any of you who do not know, the main reason most people who have
bought the tablet are wanting the tablet is since the convergence
feature, that will adjust the interface depending on what's connected to
it, keyboard, mouse, and monitor, but also by default allow desktop
programs to work on it such as Firefox, Libre Office, The Gimp, and
Gedit. However the defaults are going to be a bit boring of course for
such programs and so lots of people will be apt-get ing lots of other
programs it seems once it's set up to do that.? Got to put the tablet in
read write mode currently, which also stops it receiving over the air
updates.

There's also a x86 Ubuntu tablet trying to get crowd funded it seems,
but I don't have interest in buying that:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ubuntu-windows-tablet-mj-technology,31330.html
I seriously have more interest in possibly buying this though:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gpd-win-intel-z8550-win-10-os-game-console#/story
Even though going by the Indiegogo comments how well it works with a
Linux distro or not is questionable. However Windows 10 for a Windows
version is sort of ok (okish) really so woudn't?t be to bad for a small
using at times gaming/PC device.

When I saw the crowd funding campaign for the GPD Win? it reminded me of
the Linux based Open Pandora (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_%28console%29
https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/pages/pandora/ ) which I was
considering maybe buying a few years back, but never did. That's
currently out of stock it seems whilst a device update is being waited
for it seems. Interestingly though I noticed that the GPD XD with less
storage space than what's currently being offered on Indiegogo as a
limited 128GB edition (
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gpd-xd-limited-edition-with-memory-of-128gb#/
) is available in the Open Pandora shop.

Like with the GPD Win I am thinking of maybe buying the GPD XD with the
128GB storage, even though I am not a gamer. However? I do prefer
classic styled games, or retro gaming even as I believe it's called
these days. The GPD XD is a maybe, to go with a possible GPD Win.
Actually would the GPD Win be worth it, or mostly a waste of money
really? Same for the GPD XD? it was more of a if I buy the GPD Win I may
as well buy the GPD XD with lots of storage space as well, I guess.?
What's a bit annoying though is that any tech such as what's been
mentioned in this email (with the exception of the below Nexdock) is
always going to be around the ?200 pounds mark, as in about ?200
pounds.? Also yes the two GPD devices I have mentioned are crowd funded
so there could be issues receiving or trying to recieve them, but GPD
have actually sold devices before, such as the GPD XD with less storage
space.

I am really looking forward to receiving my Nexdock (
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nexdock-the-world-s-most-affordable-laptop--2#/
) which is nearly on it's last day of funding and then won't be
available to buy any more at all, that version. I emailed here about it
before with no response, but yes it can have various Linux devices
connected to it.? I am going to be connecting Raspberry Pi's to it it
seems, but also my Remix Mini's, and it seems Ubuntu Phones as well,
etc.? It may look like a thing for Windows 10 or mostly going by a quick
look at the campaign, but look at the campaign closely it is a general
purpose device, for Linux, Android, etc as well :), and even giving a
lap top another monitor like if it was connected to a TV.

Best Regards

Sebastian

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