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Bristol Digest, Vol 564, Issue 4

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Hello everyone (Miquel Dom?nech)
2. Re: Hello everyone (Cleto Mart?n Angelina)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 22:01:32 +0100
From: Miquel Dom?nech <miqueldomenech@gmail.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Hello everyone
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Thanks for the feedback - no offence meant by the way! I'm by no means
an expert, but as I said I've been having some trouble with Ubuntu so
would be grateful to get some advice from those of you that are in the
know!

Thanks again, see you Saturday

Miquel


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> 1. Re: Knights Templar LUG meeting this Saturday 23/08/14 (Chris)
> 2. Re: Hello everyone (Miquel Dom?nech)
> 3. Re: Hello everyone (Nigel Sollars)
> 4. Re: Hello everyone (MJ Ray)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 16:29:58 +0100
> From: Chris <cshorler@googlemail.com>
> To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Knights Templar LUG meeting this Saturday
> 23/08/14
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> On 19 August 2014 18:34:31 BST, Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com> wrote:
>>Hi
>>
>>LUG Meeting this Saturday at The Knights Templar Pub:
>>http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/pubs/the-knights-templar New
>>people welcome and I suggest not turning up until 1:30pm by the
>>earliest
>>if you are new, when at least someone else is likely to be there as
>>well. People tend to leave between 4pm and 5:30pm, when they decide
>>to. We sit on the lower level at the back of the pub when entering it
>>on the left by the plugs.
>>
>>The LUG meeting is just a informal pub meeting with fellow Linux
>>enthusiasts. Some rather interesting discussions can happen depending
>>on who is there, and sometimes people have interesting computer/tech
>>related things to show or give away as well.
>>
>>I wonder who is intending on being there this Saturday and when? I will
>>
>>probably be there at about 2pm.
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Sebastian
>>
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> Will be there at 13.30, maybe earlier
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 17:14:24 +0100
> From: Miquel Dom?nech <miqueldomenech@gmail.com>
> To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Hello everyone
> Message-ID:
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>
> Hello Sebastian,
>
> Many thanks for welcoming me to the mailing list. As you suggested I
> will be there around 2 pm.
>
> In answer to your question when I was studding I had contact with
> Redhat and Suse linux, but after I finished my studies I didn't touch
> them any more. Now I have my servers with Ubuntu linux that was
> suggested by my boss in my last company in Spain. However I'm finding
> out that maybe it wasn't the best choice.
>
> Currently I'm having the problem that because Ubuntu is based on
> Debian distribution a lot of the packages are out of date, and to keep
> up to date is harder. Also I saw that Redhat based distributions have
> really nice software that apparently seems quite useful like
> OpenPegasus or the virtualisation suite.
>
> I would be interested in finding out what the other members of the group use.
>
> See you on Saturday.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Miquel Domenech Pretus
>
>
>
> On 21 August 2014 13:00, <bristol-request@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
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>> 1. Hello everyone! (Miquel Dom?nech)
>> 2. Re: Hello everyone! (Sebastian)
>>
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 10:34:56 +0100
>> From: Miquel Dom?nech <miqueldomenech@gmail.com>
>> To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
>> Subject: [bristol] Hello everyone!
>> Message-ID:
>> <CAJ0vY1EUQPaaP5vx784+iWKW9FL=UHJi3-P0n7tQe60AvZB-PA@mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>> Hello everyone!
>>
>> My name is Miquel Domenech and as you can guess I'm not English. I'm
>> from Spain, but I've been living in Bristol since 2009.
>>
>> I've been always interested in Open Source technologies, but because I
>> was living in Spain and there, people were not that supportive to Open
>> Source I found myself in the realms of Microsoft.
>>
>> But everything changed when I arrived to England. To make things short
>> I found a job in Bath when I arrived, but after that I was unemployed
>> for 2 years. Then my partner and I started Ambiente Flamenco that is a
>> Flamenco (Spanish dance) related company.
>>
>> Then is when I started getting involved with the Open source. I have
>> my own hosting and I take care of all aspects of my IT infrastructure.
>> But I'm finding quite hard to look for good resources and help. So one
>> day looking on internet I found this group and I though that can be
>> good to joint the mailing list and to meet with all of you in one of
>> your meetings.
>>
>> I would like to attend to your next meeting that is this next
>> Saturday. Please let me know if that is ok.
>>
>> I hope that is ok to just check what is going on on the mailing list,
>> before I start asking questions. I would like to see first how things
>> work.
>>
>> Well I hope to see you all this next Saturday, if I'm welcome of course;)
>>
>> Thanks for your time.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Miquel Domenech Pretus
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 11:30:44 +0100
>> From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
>> To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
>> Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
>> Subject: Re: [bristol] Hello everyone!
>> Message-ID: <53F5CA54.2050801@gmx.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Hi Miquel
>>
>> Yes you are welcome to come along this Saturday to the Knights Templar
>> Pub. I suggest not turning up until 1:30pm by the earliest since you
>> are new, and that's when at least someone else will probably be there
>> as well. I probably won't be there until about 2/3pm myself though..
>>
>> We sit on the lower level at the back when entering the pub, or near
>> there instead if someone else is already there. I assume that you
>> already received the LUG meeting is coming up email that I sent out on
>> Tuesday.
>>
>> Which distribution/s have you been using and when and why? Although
>> people can have discussions like that a the LUG meeting itself anyway.
>>
>> Ok see you this Saturday probably.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 14:43:22 -0400
> From: Nigel Sollars <nsollars@gmail.com>
> To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Hello everyone
> Message-ID:
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>
> Hey,
>
> Some things to remember
>
> <SNIP>
>
> Currently I'm having the problem that because Ubuntu is based on
>> Debian distribution a lot of the packages are out of date, and to keep
>> up to date is harder.
>
>
> Debian in itself has always taken the stability route vs bleeding edge,
> Ubuntu do it with the LTS distributions. But like Debian packages do not
> upgrade as per new versions. Only a dist upgrade achieves this.
>
> You can obviously do it yourself for say the kernel and what not, but most
> users go the package route.
>
>
>> Also I saw that Redhat based distributions have
>> really nice software that apparently seems quite useful like
>> OpenPegasus or the virtualisation suite.
>>
>
> Redhat have a number of suite based offerings as you have seen, unlike
> debian, redhat/fedoracore update packages to latest versions ( including
> kernels ), this obviously gives more to the end user.
>
> Just my 2c's
>
> Nige
>
>
>
>> I would be interested in finding out what the other members of the group
>> use.
>>
>> See you on Saturday.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Miquel Domenech Pretus
>>
>>
>>
>> On 21 August 2014 13:00, <bristol-request@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
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>> > 1. Hello everyone! (Miquel Dom?nech)
>> > 2. Re: Hello everyone! (Sebastian)
>> >
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>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 10:34:56 +0100
>> > From: Miquel Dom?nech <miqueldomenech@gmail.com>
>> > To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
>> > Subject: [bristol] Hello everyone!
>> > Message-ID:
>> > <CAJ0vY1EUQPaaP5vx784+iWKW9FL=
>> UHJi3-P0n7tQe60AvZB-PA@mail.gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>> >
>> > Hello everyone!
>> >
>> > My name is Miquel Domenech and as you can guess I'm not English. I'm
>> > from Spain, but I've been living in Bristol since 2009.
>> >
>> > I've been always interested in Open Source technologies, but because I
>> > was living in Spain and there, people were not that supportive to Open
>> > Source I found myself in the realms of Microsoft.
>> >
>> > But everything changed when I arrived to England. To make things short
>> > I found a job in Bath when I arrived, but after that I was unemployed
>> > for 2 years. Then my partner and I started Ambiente Flamenco that is a
>> > Flamenco (Spanish dance) related company.
>> >
>> > Then is when I started getting involved with the Open source. I have
>> > my own hosting and I take care of all aspects of my IT infrastructure.
>> > But I'm finding quite hard to look for good resources and help. So one
>> > day looking on internet I found this group and I though that can be
>> > good to joint the mailing list and to meet with all of you in one of
>> > your meetings.
>> >
>> > I would like to attend to your next meeting that is this next
>> > Saturday. Please let me know if that is ok.
>> >
>> > I hope that is ok to just check what is going on on the mailing list,
>> > before I start asking questions. I would like to see first how things
>> > work.
>> >
>> > Well I hope to see you all this next Saturday, if I'm welcome of course;)
>> >
>> > Thanks for your time.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Miquel Domenech Pretus
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 2
>> > Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 11:30:44 +0100
>> > From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
>> > To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
>> > Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [bristol] Hello everyone!
>> > Message-ID: <53F5CA54.2050801@gmx.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>> >
>> > Hi Miquel
>> >
>> > Yes you are welcome to come along this Saturday to the Knights Templar
>> > Pub. I suggest not turning up until 1:30pm by the earliest since you
>> > are new, and that's when at least someone else will probably be there
>> > as well. I probably won't be there until about 2/3pm myself though..
>> >
>> > We sit on the lower level at the back when entering the pub, or near
>> > there instead if someone else is already there. I assume that you
>> > already received the LUG meeting is coming up email that I sent out on
>> > Tuesday.
>> >
>> > Which distribution/s have you been using and when and why? Although
>> > people can have discussions like that a the LUG meeting itself anyway.
>> >
>> > Ok see you this Saturday probably.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Sebastian
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
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> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:04:58 +0100
> From: MJ Ray <mjr@phonecoop.coop>
> To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Hello everyone
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> Miquel Dom?nech wrote:
>> Currently I'm having the problem that because Ubuntu is based on
>> Debian distribution a lot of the packages are out of date, and to keep
>> up to date is harder. Also I saw that Redhat based distributions have
>> really nice software that apparently seems quite useful like
>> OpenPegasus or the virtualisation suite.
>>
>> I would be interested in finding out what the other members of the group use.
>
> Debian. I'm a Debian developer. Is insulting our work based on
> misunderstandings when you don't even use it a good thing to do at a new
> group? But yet again, I'm not in Bristol this weekend (I think I'll be
> in Wolverhampton) so lucky you ;)
>
> The packages in debian are up-to-date and you could get them if you used
> Debian backports, testing, unstable and/or experimental... except you're
> using Ubuntu and I'm not sure how compatible it is these days or whether
> it has its own alternatives to the different flavours of debian.
>
> There's a thing called pegasus in debian and I know there are
> virtualisation tools, but I don't know if that's what you want.
>
> If you stick on an LTS or even a stable release, expect it to prefer
> being stable over being the latest. That's part of why we volunteers
> haven't all burned out or gone insane from end-user bug reports yet :-)
>
> Regards,
> --
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 22:28:37 +0100
From: Cleto Mart?n Angelina <cleto.martin@gmail.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Hello everyone
Message-ID: <53F66485.3010804@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

Hi Miquel and welcome!

On 21/08/14 20:04, MJ Ray wrote:
> Debian. I'm a Debian developer. Is insulting our work based on
> misunderstandings when you don't even use it a good thing to do at a new
> group? But yet again, I'm not in Bristol this weekend (I think I'll be
> in Wolverhampton) so lucky you ;)

Yeah, I guess it is not the best way to start but, no worries, I will be
there for talking a bit about Debian with Miquel. I hope I can change
his mind! :-)

This is going to be my first meeting! See you on Saturday!

Cheers,
cleto.

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