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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Skype 4.2 - At Boot! (MJ Ray)
2. Re: Skype 4.2 - At Boot! (Shane McEwan)
3. Re: Skype 4.2 - At Boot! (Martin Wheeler (StarTEXT))
4. Re: Skype 4.2 - At Boot! (MJ Ray)
5. Last BBLUG meeting of 2013 this Saturday! (Sebastian)
6. Re: Last BBLUG meeting of 2013 this Saturday! (Angelo Danio)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 13:40:08 +0000
From: MJ Ray <mjr@phonecoop.coop>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Skype 4.2 - At Boot!
Message-ID: <52B1A5B8.70906@phonecoop.coop>
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Angelo Danio wrote:
> not a conspiracy .... Skype now is M$, why not give a try to google
> hangout, instead? is not open source but gmail accounts very common and you
> can have on option (paid) to call landline or mobile phones at good rates,
> especially on US

Why jump from the "Great Satan" to the "evil"? If you're going to go
through the pain of switching, might as well go to one of the new wave
of WebRTC (Web-based Real Time Communication) sites. Lumicall (open)
and Facemeeting.com (not really open) were looking promising but I'm not
watching this space closely.

Hope that informs,
--
MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op
http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer.
In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html
Available for hire (including development) at http://www.software.coop/



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 14:00:13 +0000
From: Shane McEwan <shane@mcewan.id.au>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Skype 4.2 - At Boot!
Message-ID: <52B1AA6D.7010203@mcewan.id.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

On 18/12/13 13:40, MJ Ray wrote:
> Why jump from the "Great Satan" to the "evil"?

The same reason many of us have Facebook accounts . . . if you want to
be able to communicate with friends and family you have to use the same
tools they do. Sad but true.

Shane.




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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 17:46:10 +0000
From: "Martin Wheeler (StarTEXT)" <mwheeler@startext.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Skype 4.2 - At Boot!
Message-ID: <52B1DF62.8080604@startext.co.uk>
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On 18/12/13 14:00, Shane McEwan wrote:

> On 18/12/13 13:40, MJ Ray wrote:
>> Why jump from the "Great Satan" to the "evil"?
>
> The same reason many of us have Facebook accounts . . . if you want to
> be able to communicate with friends and family you have to use the same
> tools they do. Sad but true.

Not necessarily. (And only if you're as willing to be led by the nose as
much as your friends and family are.)

The solution of course is to educate those around you by practical
demonstration (i.e. application) of the viable alternatives.

Oh, sorry -- I forgot. That would entail a little effort - and thought -
wouldn't it ?
Nah; ballocks to that -- let's take the path of least resistance, as
worked out by the profit-obsessed marketroids -- who couldn't give a
monkey's whether their attitude and behaviour is ethical or not, as long
as the money keeps rolling in.
Greed is good; innit ?
And who cares about the punters ? They're so stupid they'll just go
along with whatever they're told to do, anyway.
--
Martin Wheeler Glastonbury - England
mwheeler @ startext.co.uk http://martinwheeler.co.uk/



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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 18:39:26 +0000
From: MJ Ray <mjr@phonecoop.coop>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Skype 4.2 - At Boot!
Message-ID: <52B1EBDE.1060802@phonecoop.coop>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Shane McEwan wrote:
> On 18/12/13 13:40, MJ Ray wrote:
>> Why jump from the "Great Satan" to the "evil"?
>
> The same reason many of us have Facebook accounts . . . if you want to
> be able to communicate with friends and family you have to use the same
> tools they do. Sad but true.

The only tool you need for webrtc sites is a reasonably current browser,
so that doesn't explain going to the evil in this example. Send the
trigger link through facebook chat if you really want.

Regards,
--
MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op
http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer.
In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html
Available for hire (including development) at http://www.software.coop/



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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 18:55:53 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: [bristol] Last BBLUG meeting of 2013 this Saturday!
Message-ID: <52B1EFB9.40505@gmx.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi

The BBLUG meeting comes a week earlier this Saturday, because of
Christmas, and it's also the last one of 2013. I didn't end up going
last month, but I hope that this one will get a good turn out of about
20 people :). Lurkers, new people, regulars, if you can make it this
Saturday please join us :) at the Knight's Templar Pub in Temple Quay:
http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/pubs/the-knights-templar

If you are new I suggest not turning up untill about 1:30pm by the
earlist, because of when other people are likely to be there. Personally
I will probably be there just after 2pm. We also sit on the lower level
in the left hand side corner when entering the pub, by the plugs, or
near there if not. People tend to leave between 4 and 5/6pm.

We chat about various things and not just opensource/freesoftware.
People can also come along for some Linux related tech support, but it
will depend on the issue and who is there, if any help is received or
not. People can also come along and show things to other people that
are there, that may be of interest to them that are tech related. Free
WIFI is available at the pub as well, and food and drinks etc.

Please reply back on the mailing list if you are intending on being
there! If you are new and likely to be there, please also optionally
send a introduction about yourself to this mailing list. Regulars and
people who don't come often can also optionally send a introduction
about themselves, which would help certain people get an idea as to who
they are as well.

Regards

Sebastian



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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 20:57:28 +0100
From: Angelo Danio <angelo.danio@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Cc: sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Last BBLUG meeting of 2013 this Saturday!
Message-ID:
<CAMs=fHJNpYpkrtHTB8t3ZdmmmJqZ4b3gCw08f_B2+UktfK-56g@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi Bristolian LUGgers!
I cannot be of the party because I will travel home for X'mas,
but Merry X'mas and best wishes for a Gorgeous New Year full of
<debian:))> packets!
\be root!
angelo

2013/12/18 Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>:
> Hi
>
> The BBLUG meeting comes a week earlier this Saturday, because of Christmas,
> and it's also the last one of 2013. I didn't end up going last month, but I
> hope that this one will get a good turn out of about 20 people :).
> Lurkers, new people, regulars, if you can make it this Saturday please join
> us :) at the Knight's Templar Pub in Temple Quay:
> http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/pubs/the-knights-templar
>
> If you are new I suggest not turning up untill about 1:30pm by the earlist,
> because of when other people are likely to be there. Personally I will
> probably be there just after 2pm. We also sit on the lower level in the left
> hand side corner when entering the pub, by the plugs, or near there if not.
> People tend to leave between 4 and 5/6pm.
>
> We chat about various things and not just opensource/freesoftware. People
> can also come along for some Linux related tech support, but it will depend
> on the issue and who is there, if any help is received or not. People can
> also come along and show things to other people that are there, that may be
> of interest to them that are tech related. Free WIFI is available at the
> pub as well, and food and drinks etc.
>
> Please reply back on the mailing list if you are intending on being there!
> If you are new and likely to be there, please also optionally send a
> introduction about yourself to this mailing list. Regulars and people who
> don't come often can also optionally send a introduction about themselves,
> which would help certain people get an idea as to who they are as well.
>
> Regards
>
> Sebastian
>
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--
Angelo

"Marco Polo descrive un ponte, pietra per pietra. - Ma qual'? la pietra che
sostiene il ponte? - chiede Kublai Kan. - Il ponte non e sostenuto da
questa o quella pietra, - risponde Marco, - ma dalla linea dell'arco che
esse formano. Kublai Kan rimane silenzioso, riflettendo. Poi soggiunge: -
Perch? mi parli delle pietre? ? solo dell'arco che m'importa. Polo
risponde: - Senza pietre non c'? arco".


Italo Calvino Da: Le citt? invisibili, Einaudi



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