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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Linux laptops (Alex Butcher)
2. Re: LinkedIn - Accounts Hacked (Keith Edmunds)
3. Re: LinkedIn - Accounts Hacked (Ian Plain)
4. Re: LinkedIn - Accounts Hacked (Nigel Sollars)
5. Re: LinkedIn - Accounts Hacked (Keith Edmunds)
6. Re: LinkedIn - Accounts Hacked (Ian Plain)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 16:44:18 +0000 (GMT)
From: Alex Butcher <lug@assursys.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Linux laptops
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On Fri, 6 Dec 2013, Nigel Sollars wrote:
> For regular laptop config, I would be very surprised to see PowerVR / SGX as
> these are namely on the Arm / Embedded SoC ( Omap etc etc ) ..
The GMA3600/3650 GPUs (incorporating PVR SGX cores) are normally coupled
with Atoms. So possibly a little unusual *today*, but they were dead common
a year or so ago. I should know, I bought one thinking "ah, Intel GPUs are
always well supported" and didn't bother to check further! :-(
Even the Windows support is decidedly third-rate; no W8 driver, for
instance...
> Nige
Best Regards,
Alex
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 16:49:35 +0000
From: Keith Edmunds <kae@midnighthax.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] LinkedIn - Accounts Hacked
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> It's not the OS vendors responsibility
I disagree: http://bit.ly/1gKePyd
--
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone
who will never be able to repay you."
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 18:49:08 +0000
From: Ian Plain <ian@cyber-cottage.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LinkedIn - Accounts Hacked
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On Friday, December 6, 2013, Keith Edmunds wrote:
> > It's not the OS vendors responsibility
>
> I disagree: http://bit.ly/1gKePyd
> --
> "You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone
> who will never be able to repay you."
>
>
> according to the report this was a client based attack which relied upon
users installing the malware that was a key logger that then uploaded them
to a server, so you can blame the ISP as well as the datacenter if you
want, or just accept that this shows that users who have simple passwords
will download anything you ask them to..
No OS is going to stop this without putting undue restrictions on users.
the recent security updated in chrome and Firefox have caused a half day of
issues for us..
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Thanks
Ian Plain
http://www.cyber-cottage.co.uk
Twitter @cyberco
Skype ba17sw
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 13:53:14 -0500
From: Nigel Sollars <nsollars@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LinkedIn - Accounts Hacked
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Half a day of issues for a web browser?.
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Ian Plain <ian@cyber-cottage.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> On Friday, December 6, 2013, Keith Edmunds wrote:
>
>> > It's not the OS vendors responsibility
>>
>> I disagree: http://bit.ly/1gKePyd
>> --
>> "You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone
>> who will never be able to repay you."
>>
>>
>> according to the report this was a client based attack which relied upon
> users installing the malware that was a key logger that then uploaded them
> to a server, so you can blame the ISP as well as the datacenter if you
> want, or just accept that this shows that users who have simple passwords
> will download anything you ask them to..
> No OS is going to stop this without putting undue restrictions on users.
> the recent security updated in chrome and Firefox have caused a half day of
> issues for us..
>
>
> --
> Thanks
> Ian Plain
> http://www.cyber-cottage.co.uk
> Twitter @cyberco
> Skype ba17sw
>
>
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 19:24:35 +0000
From: Keith Edmunds <kae@midnighthax.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] LinkedIn - Accounts Hacked
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On Fri, 6 Dec 2013 18:49:08 +0000, ian@cyber-cottage.co.uk said:
> just accept that this shows that users who have simple passwords
> will download anything you ask them to..
The complexity or otherwise of the passwords has nothing whatever to do
with it.
> No OS is going to stop this without putting undue restrictions on users.
I disagree.
--
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone
who will never be able to repay you."
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 19:39:31 +0000
From: Ian Plain <ian@cyber-cottage.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LinkedIn - Accounts Hacked
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Yep. speaking with application vendor , developers and user, meant we
wasted half a day for an issue that had nothing todo with our system except
that the customers crm wasn't passing data to us. when you are starting
from the point of a user clicking a button that worked 3 days ago and now
nothing, no errors in the browser, no data zilch . and no access the the
crm code.
this takes half a day to solve..
On Friday, December 6, 2013, Nigel Sollars wrote:
> Half a day of issues for a web browser?.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Ian Plain <ian@cyber-cottage.co.uk<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'ian@cyber-cottage.co.uk');>
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, December 6, 2013, Keith Edmunds wrote:
>>
>>> > It's not the OS vendors responsibility
>>>
>>> I disagree: http://bit.ly/1gKePyd
>>> --
>>> "You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone
>>> who will never be able to repay you."
>>>
>>>
>>> according to the report this was a client based attack which relied upon
>> users installing the malware that was a key logger that then uploaded them
>> to a server, so you can blame the ISP as well as the datacenter if you
>> want, or just accept that this shows that users who have simple passwords
>> will download anything you ask them to..
>> No OS is going to stop this without putting undue restrictions on users.
>> the recent security updated in chrome and Firefox have caused a half day of
>> issues for us..
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks
>> Ian Plain
>> http://www.cyber-cottage.co.uk
>> Twitter @cyberco
>> Skype ba17sw
>>
>>
>>
>>
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