Senin, 31 Oktober 2016

Bristol Digest, Vol 668, Issue 1

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1. Re: WP Local Server "Not Connecting" (Amias Channer)
2. Re: WP Local Server "Not Connecting" (Peter Hemmings)
3. Re: Capacitive switch test (Andrew)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 11:58:40 +0000
From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] WP Local Server "Not Connecting"
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Hello Peter,

Are you still running a restrictive local firewall on your laptop ?

A good tool for network diagnosis on android is an app called fing , it
scans your network for hosts and let's you scan them for services.

Cheers
Amias

On 30 Oct 2016 9:20 a.m., "Peter Hemmings via Bristol" <
bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am trying to set up a demo Wordpress site and have installed LAMP and
> made a Wordpress local server but cannot connect to it.
>
> I can run it via "localhost" and the lan address (192.168.0.17) on my
> laptop, but from a smartphone on the lan it just states "not connecting".
>
> What have I forgot to do!?
>
> Regards
>
> --
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 13:23:02 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] WP Local Server "Not Connecting"
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On 30/10/16 11:58, Amias Channer via Bristol wrote:
> Hello Peter,
>
> Are you still running a restrictive local firewall on your laptop ?

Yep! I think that must be the problem.

>
> A good tool for network diagnosis on android is an app called fing , it
> scans your network for hosts and let's you scan them for services.
>

Just downloaded it and its very useful!

I have no services from my Fedora 24 laptop.

I did not have "system-congfig-services" so downloaded it and it won't run:

[root@localhost peter]# system-config-services
ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on
:1.93:/org/fedoraproject/Config/Services/ServiceHerders/XinetdServiceHerder:
dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did
not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did
not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the
reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.

Not got time atm to check firewall/resolve problem but will get back
when I make progress!

> Cheers
> Amias
>
>
> On 30 Oct 2016 9:20 a.m., "Peter Hemmings via Bristol"
> <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to set up a demo Wordpress site and have installed LAMP
> and made a Wordpress local server but cannot connect to it.
>
> I can run it via "localhost" and the lan address (192.168.0.17) on
> my laptop, but from a smartphone on the lan it just states "not
> connecting".
>
> What have I forgot to do!?
>
> Regards
>
> --
> Peter H
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 22:52:53 +0000
From: Andrew <andrewsoltau@gmail.com>
To: david <david@avoncliff.com>, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Capacitive switch test
Message-ID: <c0a346c5-b1bd-79a6-b58a-00015794502a@1dtv.com>
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On 29/10/16 20:56, david via Bristol wrote:
> On 29/10/16 15:39, Andrew via Bristol wrote:
>> On 27/10/16 19:20, David via Bristol wrote:
>>> On 26/10/16 20:07, Andrew via Bristol wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I have a capacitive switch I want to test. I have googled a fair
>>>> bit but
>>>> cannot find a simple answer. Will simply earthing the feed wire to the
>>>> switch do the trick? (I have a harman kardon base unit not working,
>>>> and
>>>> the volume switches on the satellite are suspect.) Apologies not linux
>>>> of course but I figure this is a super simple question for the
>>>> cognoscenti.
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>> I do not think an earth wire will do anything. A finger is what you
>>> need, and if touching with a finger does nothing it is broken.
>>> David
>>
>>> Thanks David. My question is how to test the thing the switch
>>> operates. Very stupid title of the post, clearly! If the switch is
>>> broken, and that is why the system does not respond to it, what can I
>>> do to see if the system comes on when I do to it what the switch would
>>> do? Would earthing it do this? Or is it likely to require a specific
>>> capacitance to 'set it off'?
>>
>> Andrew
>>
> The sensor part is just a wire / copper pad connected to the chip that
> does the sensing, so unless the wire is broken you are looking for
> your fault in the chips on the PCB.
> See this data sheet of a typical sensor chip.
> uk.rs-online.com/webdocs/12bf/0900766b812bf39b.pdf
Got it. Thanks. I thought that would likely be the problem but I just
thought I would clutch at the odd straw before moving on.

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Bristol Digest, Vol 667, Issue 9

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Today's Topics:

1. Hello (Martin Taylor)
2. Re: Capacitive switch test (Andrew)
3. Re: Hello (Martin)
4. Re: Capacitive switch test (david)
5. WP Local Server "Not Connecting" (Peter Hemmings)
6. Re: WP Local Server "Not Connecting" (Martin Moore)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 14:01:24 +0000 (UTC)
From: Martin Taylor <martin_p_taylor@yahoo.co.uk>
To: <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Hello
Message-ID: <1656190872.412585.1477749684789@mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hello Folks,

I've been reading the list for a little while now, so thought I'd say hello.

I tried Ubuntu for a while but couldn't really get on with Unity. Now much happier with MATE on an old notebook.

I've also put MATE on a strange touchscreen pseudo-desktop Sony Vaio that I had a bit of a struggle with - turned out to be
the Nvidia driver. It runs fine now, but I've yet to work out how to control the screen brightness.

Far from an expert, but I've had fun with Raspbian on the Pis. The other distros I've tried are Kali and Elementary OS off USB
stick.

My aim is to move away from Win10 on the desktop, and not use Wine (which would seem to defeat the object) - the big fear is
the years of accumulated apps and data and actually taking the plunge. I guess dual-boot is the answer, although there may
be some risk of bricking my main machine.

Cheers,

Martin

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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 15:39:34 +0100
From: Andrew <andrewsoltau@gmail.com>
To: David <david@avoncliff.com>, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Capacitive switch test
Message-ID: <fa25da50-aea1-412b-951c-9b2b96415cc2@1dtv.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 27/10/16 19:20, David via Bristol wrote:
> On 26/10/16 20:07, Andrew via Bristol wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I have a capacitive switch I want to test. I have googled a fair bit but
>> cannot find a simple answer. Will simply earthing the feed wire to the
>> switch do the trick? (I have a harman kardon base unit not working, and
>> the volume switches on the satellite are suspect.) Apologies not linux
>> of course but I figure this is a super simple question for the
>> cognoscenti.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
> I do not think an earth wire will do anything. A finger is what you
> need, and if touching with a finger does nothing it is broken.
> David

> Thanks David. My question is how to test the thing the switch
> operates. Very stupid title of the post, clearly! If the switch is
> broken, and that is why the system does not respond to it, what can I
> do to see if the system comes on when I do to it what the switch would
> do? Would earthing it do this? Or is it likely to require a specific
> capacitance to 'set it off'?

Andrew

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 20:53:45 +0100
From: Martin <inkubus@interalpha.co.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Hello
Message-ID: <1477770825.23787.238.camel@interalpha.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

On Sat, 2016-10-29 at 14:01 +0000, Martin Taylor via Bristol wrote:
> Hello Folks,
>
> I've been reading the list for a little while now, so thought I'd say hello.
>
> I tried Ubuntu for a while but couldn't really get on with Unity. Now much happier with MATE on an old notebook.
>
> I've also put MATE on a strange touchscreen pseudo-desktop Sony Vaio that I had a bit of a struggle with - turned out to be
> the Nvidia driver. It runs fine now, but I've yet to work out how to control the screen brightness.
>
> Far from an expert, but I've had fun with Raspbian on the Pis. The other distros I've tried are Kali and Elementary OS off USB
> stick.
>
> My aim is to move away from Win10 on the desktop, and not use Wine (which would seem to defeat the object) - the big fear is
> the years of accumulated apps and data and actually taking the plunge. I guess dual-boot is the answer, although there may
> be some risk of bricking my main machine.

One options that is lower risk / hassle than dual boot is to use a
virtual machine of some kind. I've not run windows in a VM but it seems
to me that the following should be at least theoretically do-able.

1. Add extra storage to the machine (or repartition if you're into that
sort of thing) and install Linux on it.

2. Start by running Linux in a VM, from Windows. This should give you
some migration time.

3. At some point, pivot and boot Linux as the main OS and run windows in
a VM so you can still use windows programs as an when you need to.

HTH and welcome!

Cheers,
- Martin

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 20:56:55 +0100
From: david <david@avoncliff.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Capacitive switch test
Message-ID: <5814FF07.60001@avoncliff.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 29/10/16 15:39, Andrew via Bristol wrote:
> On 27/10/16 19:20, David via Bristol wrote:
>> On 26/10/16 20:07, Andrew via Bristol wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I have a capacitive switch I want to test. I have googled a fair bit but
>>> cannot find a simple answer. Will simply earthing the feed wire to the
>>> switch do the trick? (I have a harman kardon base unit not working, and
>>> the volume switches on the satellite are suspect.) Apologies not linux
>>> of course but I figure this is a super simple question for the
>>> cognoscenti.
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>> I do not think an earth wire will do anything. A finger is what you
>> need, and if touching with a finger does nothing it is broken.
>> David
>
>> Thanks David. My question is how to test the thing the switch
>> operates. Very stupid title of the post, clearly! If the switch is
>> broken, and that is why the system does not respond to it, what can I
>> do to see if the system comes on when I do to it what the switch would
>> do? Would earthing it do this? Or is it likely to require a specific
>> capacitance to 'set it off'?
>
> Andrew
>
The sensor part is just a wire / copper pad connected to the chip that
does the sensing, so unless the wire is broken you are looking for your
fault in the chips on the PCB.
See this data sheet of a typical sensor chip.
uk.rs-online.com/webdocs/12bf/0900766b812bf39b.pdf


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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 09:19:55 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: [bristol] WP Local Server "Not Connecting"
Message-ID: <e1bc1409-a039-a78d-5c45-e0237876b345@virginmedia.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Hi,

I am trying to set up a demo Wordpress site and have installed LAMP and
made a Wordpress local server but cannot connect to it.

I can run it via "localhost" and the lan address (192.168.0.17) on my
laptop, but from a smartphone on the lan it just states "not connecting".

What have I forgot to do!?

Regards

--
Peter H

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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 09:40:57 +0000
From: Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>, Bristol and Bath
Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] WP Local Server "Not Connecting"
Message-ID: <FA494CF3-0AC8-48B3-A068-FBABCFBA19E9@it-helps.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Check the apache logs, may have something useful.

Also check you're definitely on the LAN.


On 30/10/2016, 09:19, "Bristol on behalf of Peter Hemmings via Bristol" <bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk on behalf of bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:

Hi,

I am trying to set up a demo Wordpress site and have installed LAMP and
made a Wordpress local server but cannot connect to it.

I can run it via "localhost" and the lan address (192.168.0.17) on my
laptop, but from a smartphone on the lan it just states "not connecting".

What have I forgot to do!?

Regards

--
Peter H

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Bristol Digest, Vol 667, Issue 8

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1. Re: Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc. (Martin)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2016 10:30:08 +0100
From: Martin <inkubus@interalpha.co.uk>
To: andrew@1dtv.com, Andrew <andrewsoltau@gmail.com>, Bristol and Bath
Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Cc: cms <cms@beatworm.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc.
Message-ID: <1477733408.23787.194.camel@interalpha.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

On Wed, 2016-10-26 at 19:50 +0100, Andrew via Bristol wrote:
> On 26/10/16 09:39, cms via Bristol wrote:
> > I think it was Shevek! I expect I have the announce mail somewhere in
> > an archive
> Whatever happened to Shevek? Is anyone still in touch?

Just responded to one of his mails actually...

Alive, well and recruiting; http://www.compilerworks.com/ if you want to
be doing the silicon valley start-up type thing.

Cheers,
- Martin

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Jumat, 28 Oktober 2016

Bristol Digest, Vol 667, Issue 7

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Today's Topics:

1. Linux Voice Gone to Linux Magazine (Peter Hemmings)
2. Re: Linux Voice Gone to Linux Magazine (Sebastian)
3. Re: Capacitive switch test (Andrew)
4. Re: Capacitive switch test (David)
5. Re: Linux Voice Gone to Linux Magazine (Nigel Sollars)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 17:33:47 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: BBLUG <Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Linux Voice Gone to Linux Magazine
Message-ID: <31a88577-5a16-b649-1739-085bbfc6116f@virginmedia.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

What a shame, but it did not make a profit to give 50% away!!

Still 3 of them are keeping together.


--
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 17:43:43 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Linux Voice Gone to Linux Magazine
Message-ID: <4038f401-2afe-4b91-9735-3e5b0c05a390@gmx.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On Thursday, 27 October 2016 17:33:47 BST, Peter Hemmings via Bristol
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
> What a shame, but it did not make a profit to give 50% away!!
>
> Still 3 of them are keeping together.
>
>

I just been reading that as well in a email from them. Indeed it's ashame
really, but at least the other ones, have DVD's, Linux User & Developer,
Linux Magazine, and Linux Format. Also via Linux Magazine they will be in
standard shops such as W H Smith, I don't think Linux Voice ever ended up
on sale in such shops. Going back to the DVD's it was ashame when they
decided to get rid of them, but yes it's costs to have a DVD with an issuse
of a magazine, looks like with Linux Magazine (going by the email), it's a
pay if wanting a DVD.

Linux Voice had a nice general idea of how the magazine would be done, but
I guess it's easier to be commercial when doing a magazine, and if going to
make a profit as well.


--
Sent using Dekko from my Ubuntu device

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 18:58:07 +0100
From: Andrew <andrewsoltau@gmail.com>
To: Steve Netting <steve@track3.org.uk>, Bristol and Bath Linux User
Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Capacitive switch test
Message-ID: <8b959ac0-2182-7344-6ef3-257dd4ec63ba@1dtv.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 27/10/16 11:42, Steve Netting via Bristol wrote:
> <snip>
>
>> Hi Steve.
>>
>> Little capacitive switch on the front of a pc speaker to raise or lower
>> volume. Seems to be dead. Single connection on the back. My question is
>> whether just earthing the connection would tell the unit the same as
>> touching the switch would. (If I am not using the right language that
>> probably explains why my googling is getting nowhere.)
>>
>
> Just found this - using capacitance to adjust the frequency of an RC
> circuit:-
>
> http://pcbheaven.com/wikipages/How_a_Touch_Button_works/?p=1
>
> I still tend to think of the capacitance (from touch) appearing as a
> value between two points on the touch switch (or between switch and
> case/ground).
>
> But regardless, my suggestion to add a small capacitor between 'the
> wire' and ground would likely work in either edge timing or frequency
> detection methods.
>
> Interesting article here:-
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_capacitance
>
> :)
>
>
> Steve
Thanks for all this Steve.

Reading this:

"But if the sensor is touched, it will have a larger capacitance, and it
will absorb more charge from the internal capacitor." --- which 'sets it
off'.

I am assuming that earthing it should work because I assume the
capacitance of earth should be very high. That was what I intuited which
made me think of trying out just earthing the one connector, in the hope
the system would respond. It does not, so I am now assuming it is more
broken than just the little switch. (My practical physics is very rusty
and I never did study electrical engineering.)

Andrew

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 19:20:19 +0100
From: David <david@avoncliff.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Capacitive switch test
Message-ID: <58124563.3070208@avoncliff.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

On 26/10/16 20:07, Andrew via Bristol wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have a capacitive switch I want to test. I have googled a fair bit but
> cannot find a simple answer. Will simply earthing the feed wire to the
> switch do the trick? (I have a harman kardon base unit not working, and
> the volume switches on the satellite are suspect.) Apologies not linux
> of course but I figure this is a super simple question for the cognoscenti.
>
> Andrew
>
I do not think an earth wire will do anything. A finger is what you
need, and if touching with a finger does nothing it is broken.
David

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 16:07:49 -0400
From: Nigel Sollars <nsollars@gmail.com>
To: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>, Bristol and Bath Linux User
Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Linux Voice Gone to Linux Magazine
Message-ID:
<CAG6aBkXMAN2Y5-yQds8uqsDDUDO0Qf4fs9cN9CTKd6wWixsomg@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Was an interesting idea for certain,

How times have changed though from the likes of the 80's with Crash
Magazine and or ZZAP64, only to be followed by Atari / Commodore User and
ilk. I think you could probably call those 'The Magazine Hay Day', I am
sure the explosion of the interwebs has done other mediums no favors.

That also goes for brick and mortar stores..

Nige

On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Sebastian via Bristol <
bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:

>
>
> On Thursday, 27 October 2016 17:33:47 BST, Peter Hemmings via Bristol <
> bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> What a shame, but it did not make a profit to give 50% away!!
>>
>> Still 3 of them are keeping together.
>>
>>
>>
> I just been reading that as well in a email from them. Indeed it's ashame
> really, but at least the other ones, have DVD's, Linux User & Developer,
> Linux Magazine, and Linux Format. Also via Linux Magazine they will be in
> standard shops such as W H Smith, I don't think Linux Voice ever ended up
> on sale in such shops. Going back to the DVD's it was ashame when they
> decided to get rid of them, but yes it's costs to have a DVD with an issuse
> of a magazine, looks like with Linux Magazine (going by the email), it's a
> pay if wanting a DVD.
>
> Linux Voice had a nice general idea of how the magazine would be done, but
> I guess it's easier to be commercial when doing a magazine, and if going to
> make a profit as well.
>
>
> --
> Sent using Dekko from my Ubuntu device
>
>
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 11:53:08 +0100
From: Richard Stearn <richard@rns-stearn.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Capacitive switch test
Message-ID: <5811DC94.50006@rns-stearn.co.uk>
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Steve Netting via Bristol wrote:
> I can't imagine how it works with only a single wire, unless the switch
> is also grounded via a metal case perhaps? There's probably a few ways
> it could operate but I believe a common method is to use an oscillator
> and check for added capacitance by timing the rise/fall time of the
> forward/trailing edge.
>
> Assuming it has a ground (even if via the case) and it's doing something
> similar to the above - I'd guess a small value ceramic capacitor between
> the wire and ground would be sufficient.

I have a couple of lamp units that go in plantpots and touching the plant
cycles the lamp from off to on and back. They work by detecting the (none
subtle) 50Hz pickup of the body touching the plant.

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3. Re: Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc. (Samir Benmendil)
4. Re: Capacitive switch test (Amias Channer)
5. Re: Capacitive switch test (Andrew)
6. Re: Capacitive switch test (Steve Netting)
7. Re: Capacitive switch test (Steve Netting)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 23:32:00 +0100
From: Steve Netting <steve@track3.org.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc.
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On 26/10/16 21:56, Samir Benmendil via Bristol wrote:
> On Oct 25, 2016 at 19:14, Sebastian via Bristol wrote:
>>> Also, it's probably worth mentioning our IRC channel on the Facebook
>>> group/description as this is where most of the chat seems to happen
>>> (albeit predominantly SCART based).
>> I think if we are going to do IRC seriously, that should have a
>> channel on Freenode. Freenode is where it's mostly at for tech IRC
>> channels, I rarely go on any other networks in general.
> Indeed, same here. It seems that #bblug is free on freenode. I'm the
> only one in it. Join me ;)
>

I'll say again - we have an existing, well established IRC channel.

There seems little point in splitting the already small active LUG
membership between different networks.


Steve

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Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 23:44:34 +0100
From: Steve Netting <steve@track3.org.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Capacitive switch test
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On 26/10/16 20:07, Andrew via Bristol wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have a capacitive switch I want to test. I have googled a fair bit but
> cannot find a simple answer. Will simply earthing the feed wire to the
> switch do the trick? (I have a harman kardon base unit not working, and
> the volume switches on the satellite are suspect.) Apologies not linux
> of course but I figure this is a super simple question for the cognoscenti.
>

Hi Andrew,

I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. Earthing the feed wire to the
switch?


Steve

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 00:49:49 +0100
From: Samir Benmendil <me@rmz.io>
To: Steve Netting <steve@track3.org.uk>, Bristol and Bath Linux User
Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc.
Message-ID: <20161026234949.GE1832@chronos.localdomain>
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On Oct 26, 2016 at 23:32, Steve Netting via Bristol wrote:
> On 26/10/16 21:56, Samir Benmendil via Bristol wrote:
>> On Oct 25, 2016 at 19:14, Sebastian via Bristol wrote:
>>>> Also, it's probably worth mentioning our IRC channel on the Facebook
>>>> group/description as this is where most of the chat seems to happen
>>>> (albeit predominantly SCART based).
>>> I think if we are going to do IRC seriously, that should have a
>>> channel on Freenode. Freenode is where it's mostly at for tech IRC
>>> channels, I rarely go on any other networks in general.
>> Indeed, same here. It seems that #bblug is free on freenode. I'm the
>> only one in it. Join me ;)
> I'll say again - we have an existing, well established IRC channel.
>
> There seems little point in splitting the already small active LUG
> membership between different networks.
True, I kinda just went ahead with the freenode IRC without reading the
rest of the ml thread.
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Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 08:34:47 +0100
From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, Andrew
<andrewsoltau@gmail.com>, andrew@1dtv.com
Subject: Re: [bristol] Capacitive switch test
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Hello Andrew,

Bristol backspace might be more on topic for this , you could try there if
you don't get what you need here.

Cheers
Amias

On 26 Oct 2016 20:07, "Andrew via Bristol" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have a capacitive switch I want to test. I have googled a fair bit but
> cannot find a simple answer. Will simply earthing the feed wire to the
> switch do the trick? (I have a harman kardon base unit not working, and the
> volume switches on the satellite are suspect.) Apologies not linux of
> course but I figure this is a super simple question for the cognoscenti.
>
> Andrew
>
>
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Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 10:40:27 +0100
From: Andrew <andrewsoltau@gmail.com>
To: Steve Netting <steve@track3.org.uk>, Bristol and Bath Linux User
Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Capacitive switch test
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On 26/10/16 23:44, Steve Netting via Bristol wrote:
> On 26/10/16 20:07, Andrew via Bristol wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I have a capacitive switch I want to test. I have googled a fair bit but
>> cannot find a simple answer. Will simply earthing the feed wire to the
>> switch do the trick? (I have a harman kardon base unit not working, and
>> the volume switches on the satellite are suspect.) Apologies not linux
>> of course but I figure this is a super simple question for the cognoscenti.
>>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. Earthing the feed wire to the
> switch?
>
>
> Steve
>
> ____________________________________________
Hi Steve.

Little capacitive switch on the front of a pc speaker to raise or lower
volume. Seems to be dead. Single connection on the back. My question is
whether just earthing the connection would tell the unit the same as
touching the switch would. (If I am not using the right language that
probably explains why my googling is getting nowhere.)

Andrew

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 11:26:10 +0100
From: Steve Netting <steve@track3.org.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Capacitive switch test
Message-ID: <29fad7cc-8b85-9243-5f7e-e8528d0af833@netting.org.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

On 27/10/16 10:40, Andrew wrote:
> On 26/10/16 23:44, Steve Netting via Bristol wrote:
>> On 26/10/16 20:07, Andrew via Bristol wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I have a capacitive switch I want to test. I have googled a fair bit but
>>> cannot find a simple answer. Will simply earthing the feed wire to the
>>> switch do the trick? (I have a harman kardon base unit not working, and
>>> the volume switches on the satellite are suspect.) Apologies not linux
>>> of course but I figure this is a super simple question for the
>>> cognoscenti.
>>>
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. Earthing the feed wire to the
>> switch?
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> ____________________________________________
> Hi Steve.
>
> Little capacitive switch on the front of a pc speaker to raise or lower
> volume. Seems to be dead. Single connection on the back. My question is
> whether just earthing the connection would tell the unit the same as
> touching the switch would. (If I am not using the right language that
> probably explains why my googling is getting nowhere.)
>

I can't imagine how it works with only a single wire, unless the switch
is also grounded via a metal case perhaps? There's probably a few ways
it could operate but I believe a common method is to use an oscillator
and check for added capacitance by timing the rise/fall time of the
forward/trailing edge.

Assuming it has a ground (even if via the case) and it's doing something
similar to the above - I'd guess a small value ceramic capacitor between
the wire and ground would be sufficient.

This is purely guesswork though :)


Steve

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 11:42:21 +0100
From: Steve Netting <steve@track3.org.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Capacitive switch test
Message-ID: <fef1d412-4bb5-208a-91df-06e0bae319ad@coherer.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8


<snip>

> Hi Steve.
>
> Little capacitive switch on the front of a pc speaker to raise or lower
> volume. Seems to be dead. Single connection on the back. My question is
> whether just earthing the connection would tell the unit the same as
> touching the switch would. (If I am not using the right language that
> probably explains why my googling is getting nowhere.)
>


Just found this - using capacitance to adjust the frequency of an RC
circuit:-

http://pcbheaven.com/wikipages/How_a_Touch_Button_works/?p=1

I still tend to think of the capacitance (from touch) appearing as a
value between two points on the touch switch (or between switch and
case/ground).

But regardless, my suggestion to add a small capacitor between 'the
wire' and ground would likely work in either edge timing or frequency
detection methods.

Interesting article here:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_capacitance

:)


Steve

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2. Capacitive switch test (Andrew)
3. Re: Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc. (Steve Netting)
4. Re: Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc. (Samir Benmendil)
5. Re: Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc. (Samir Benmendil)
6. Re: Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc. (Nigel Sollars)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 19:50:17 +0100
From: Andrew <andrewsoltau@gmail.com>
To: cms <cms@beatworm.co.uk>, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc.
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On 26/10/16 09:39, cms via Bristol wrote:
> I think it was Shevek! I expect I have the announce mail somewhere in
> an archive
Whatever happened to Shevek? Is anyone still in touch?

Andrew

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 20:07:23 +0100
From: Andrew <andrewsoltau@gmail.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: [bristol] Capacitive switch test
Message-ID: <3073f8f4-966d-3cc3-ae86-80eb7cf3254c@1dtv.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Hi

I have a capacitive switch I want to test. I have googled a fair bit but
cannot find a simple answer. Will simply earthing the feed wire to the
switch do the trick? (I have a harman kardon base unit not working, and
the volume switches on the satellite are suspect.) Apologies not linux
of course but I figure this is a super simple question for the cognoscenti.

Andrew

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 21:15:39 +0100
From: Steve Netting <steve@track3.org.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc.
Message-ID: <89f388db-be06-ebd8-cbce-525359674bf8@netting.org.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8


On 26/10/16 19:50, Andrew via Bristol wrote:
> On 26/10/16 09:39, cms via Bristol wrote:
>> I think it was Shevek! I expect I have the announce mail somewhere in
>> an archive
> Whatever happened to Shevek? Is anyone still in touch?
>

Today on IRC:-

17:56 -!- shevek [~shevek@82.69.186.50] has joined #bblug
17:57 < shevek> spirit3, I do exist.
17:57 < shevek> got to run, meeting

:D


Steve

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 21:56:37 +0100
From: Samir Benmendil <me@rmz.io>
To: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>, Bristol and Bath Linux User
Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc.
Message-ID: <20161026205637.GA1832@chronos.localdomain>
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On Oct 25, 2016 at 19:14, Sebastian via Bristol wrote:
>> Also, it's probably worth mentioning our IRC channel on the Facebook
>> group/description as this is where most of the chat seems to happen
>> (albeit predominantly SCART based).
> I think if we are going to do IRC seriously, that should have a
> channel on Freenode. Freenode is where it's mostly at for tech IRC
> channels, I rarely go on any other networks in general.
Indeed, same here. It seems that #bblug is free on freenode. I'm the
only one in it. Join me ;)

We should probably look into registering that if we intend to keep an
IRC channel.

> On Tuesday, 25 October 2016 17:11:38 BST, Steve Netting via Bristol
> <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>> I'm considering FOSDEM but have yet to book flight/hotel.
> As for the hotel and flight indeed same here nothing booked yet, all a
> bit early really,
I'm also interested in joining. I will take the occasion to also visit
my parents after the conference. Would be happy to share the flight to
Brussels, but will not return with you guys.

> I expect, and we will find out if a Mageia stand has been accepted
> again or not.
How can you get a stand accepted? We would be interested to have a
Chakra stand.

Best Regards
Samir
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Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 22:39:58 +0100
From: Samir Benmendil <me@rmz.io>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
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On Oct 26, 2016 at 21:56, Samir Benmendil wrote:
> On Oct 25, 2016 at 19:14, Sebastian via Bristol wrote:
>>> Also, it's probably worth mentioning our IRC channel on the
>>> Facebook group/description as this is where most of the chat seems
>>> to happen (albeit predominantly SCART based).
>> I think if we are going to do IRC seriously, that should have a
>> channel on Freenode. Freenode is where it's mostly at for tech IRC
>> channels, I rarely go on any other networks in general.
> Indeed, same here. It seems that #bblug is free on freenode. I'm the
> only one in it. Join me ;)
Also there's this newfangled thing called matrix.org/riot.im
https://riot.im

Seems to be IRC on steroids. It also allows two-way bridges to IRC. It
doesn't bridge to irc.perl.org though.
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Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 18:27:58 -0400
From: Nigel Sollars <nsollars@gmail.com>
To: Samir Benmendil <me@rmz.io>, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc.
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Hehe, I think you gotta be careful here.. that looks very over
enthusiastic.

On Wednesday, October 26, 2016, Samir Benmendil via Bristol <
bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:

> On Oct 26, 2016 at 21:56, Samir Benmendil wrote:
>
>> On Oct 25, 2016 at 19:14, Sebastian via Bristol wrote:
>>
>>> Also, it's probably worth mentioning our IRC channel on the Facebook
>>>> group/description as this is where most of the chat seems to happen (albeit
>>>> predominantly SCART based).
>>>>
>>> I think if we are going to do IRC seriously, that should have a channel
>>> on Freenode. Freenode is where it's mostly at for tech IRC channels, I
>>> rarely go on any other networks in general.
>>>
>> Indeed, same here. It seems that #bblug is free on freenode. I'm the only
>> one in it. Join me ;)
>>
> Also there's this newfangled thing called matrix.org/riot.im
> https://riot.im
>
> Seems to be IRC on steroids. It also allows two-way bridges to IRC. It
> doesn't bridge to irc.perl.org though.
>


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4. Re: Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc. (cms)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 17:11:38 +0100
From: Steve Netting <steve@track3.org.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc.
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I'm considering FOSDEM but have yet to book flight/hotel.

Also, it's probably worth mentioning our IRC channel on the Facebook
group/description as this is where most of the chat seems to happen
(albeit predominantly SCART based).


Steve


On 25/10/16 12:58, Sebastian via Bristol wrote:
> Hi
>
> Our event last Saturday for Linux Presentation Day (
> http://linux-presentation-day.org.uk ) was mostly nice and
> successful. Although did end up with a few issues to sort out at the
> event etc, but nothing major, such as to do with the USB's. We also
> had a good turn out of about 20 people from the general public, and it
> seems that most event visitors enjoyed themselves.
>
> The USB issue was that well in the end actually got 50 or so offical
> Ubuntu USB's sent, even though had been told that woudn't get them,
> since a logisitcs issue, on IRC before by someone from the Canonical
> Community Team. However then I found out the evening before the
> event, that they were actually blank, nothing on them, so some or
> more, had Ubuntu 16.04 put on them at the event. The moral of the
> story is to check at least some of the USB's, if not all of them,
> before an event, when being sent them like that.
>
> The plan is to run another two Linux Presentation Day events next
> year, probably in April and probably in October as well, but maybe May
> and November instead. Linux Presentation Day events are ideally meant
> to be twice a year. Anyway it turns out that next year this LUG is
> going to probably actually have three events, yes THREE, with membes
> of the LUG behind them, (,which is impressive considering what our LUG
> is like in general), with one of our other fellow members having ideas
> for something bigger, and that also won't be for LPD. He would like
> to mainly organise an event that's bigger, and one where actually have
> speeches as well. Public speaking awesome! Nothing has been decided
> properly yet, and I don't have proper details, but its looking like
> that event will probably be in July, if it is to happen.
> Going back to Linux Presentation Day it seems that most event
> visitors came in, because of the paid Facebook advert that had been
> running for about two weeks. Would have been like three weeks, but
> originally had issues setting it up properly and as a result keeping
> it running. I know it probably won't get used much, but there's also
> now as of today a Facebook group for our LUG on Facebook as wel.
>
> Events, events, are usually fun! However no OGG Camp (
> http://oggcamp.org ) this year, so its looking like my next tech event
> will be the AWESOME FOSDEM (Free Open Source Developers European
> Meeting) again, for my sixth time, since been going every year since
> 2012 like with OGG Camp. FOSDEM is sarting to feel like its coming up
> again already, but currently isn't that near, since its the first
> weekend of Februrary. For anyone who is into open source enough, be
> that as just mostly a user like me, or as a developer, FOSDEM is an
> awesome expereince! However one that does not happen in the UK, but
> rather in (or near) Brussels Belgium. FOSDEM is probably also at least
> a bit more awesome when got people to meet over there from a proper
> project, like with myself, and Sim from Jolla who was at the LPD on
> Saturday. However yes its the kind of event that certain famous
> people in the open source / free software world will go to as well,
> and I even got to meet and breifly chat to and shake hands wih Mark
> Shuttleworth this year. No I didn't ask him how his trip to space
> went when meeting.
>
> With FOSDEM and OGG Camp, I went with someone else the first year
> (not a techie), but all other years done all the travelling there and
> back on my own, so would be awesome if could actually do that next
> year with at least one person from the LUG, but its looking like there
> may be a person or two already, who may seriously be inerested in
> going. Also it seems going by the mailing list archeive that in 2008
> or whenever it was a group of people from the LUG actsually went and
> did FOSDEM together. Anyway who would be seriously interested in
> going to and back from FOSDEM next year with me, and why? FOSDEM is
> massive people have differnet interests etc, so whilst over there
> won't always be together of course, but can probably also get you into
> to the Mageia meal on Saturday night, assuming that Mageia will be
> there again as usual.
> Friday night starts off with a MASSIVE Crazy beer event, with the
> conference itself being Saturday and Sunday at a massive university.
> Saturday night various project meals will happen. FOSDEM is so massive
> that always going to miss something speechwise, that may be of
> interest, but they video quite a lot of speeches as well. It's a
> great event for stocking up on tech t-shirts as well, nearly every
> stand will have t-shirts, and a few stands give away decent free
> ones, but otherwise they sell for about 10 euros usually. I have made
> the mistake of not being early enough to certain stands a few times
> before though, to get a certain t-shirt, or get it, but in the right
> size. However there is a main building of stands with two floors of
> stands, plus another building, etc.
>
> The other year I belive it was 2015, by coincidence whilst going
> around some of the stands at FOSDEM, there was a guy at one of the
> stands, that I started chatting to a bit, since he sounded English,
> and turns out he was from Bristol. Apparantly he had actually been in
> the audiance as well, when I spoke at the IT Mega Meet the first year
> it was on in 2012. Anyway FOSDEM weekend he had no proper plans for
> the Saturday night, but was able to get him into the Mageia meal.
> Anyway we were going to meet up again at the first LUG meeting after
> the event it seems, but I didn't go, and we lost contact as well. If
> the person I am reffering to just happens to be reading this, I would
> be interested in meeting you soon again at a LUG meeting.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Sebastian
>
>


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 19:14:14 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc.
Message-ID: <d7698176-f308-4775-96fd-670f6d59cc3e@gmx.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed


Hi

Yes FOSDEM is definetly worth it, so many interesting people that can come
across, who share the same kind of interests, etc. It can be like going to
a differnet world as well, or be out of this world as the saying would go.
I don't know about you, but in daily life, I am mostly in contact in
person with people who aren't into Linux etc. Also our LUG meeting is
hardly anything compared to a massive event such as FOSDEM. Oh and I
actually did the big European event first, before going to a LUG meeting,
although arleady knew that a LUG existed in Bristol, for quite some time.
Generally it seems most people go to their LUG meeting first, before a big
event, where as I did it the other way around, a big open source event
first, that just happended to have been one of the biggest in Europe as
well.

With FOSDEM they don't have a register of the amount of visitors, but
its gets about 5000 each year, and from lots of different counteries,
USA, Canada various counteries across Europe, etc. It's internationaly
recognised. It's the biggest developer focussed event in Europe. To be
clear FOSDEM is for all types of contributers to open source projects, and
users. However most of the talks that happen there wil be rather technical
and to do with software development. They have a main stage, where I have
seen talks before from people such as the guy who started System D, and
then are lots of dev rooms there as well with their own agenda/progrmme on
the Saturday and Sunday as well. Cross desktop dev room, Cross distros
dev room, Legal issues dev room. Mozilla dev room, dev rooms for varous
programming langauges, embedded dev room (I think), BSD, etc, etc. I
won't go to most dev rooms, because I am not actually a programmer or Linux
distribution packager.

I think if we are going to do IRC seriously, that should have a channel on
Freenode. Freenode is where it's mostly at for tech IRC channels, I
rarely go on any other networks in general.

By the way not qute sure who you are, even though just looked and yes seems
you been on this mailing list, for quite a long time.

As for the hotel and flight indeed same here nothing booked yet, all a bit
early really, but soon inside the Mageia project the discussions will
properly begin I expect, and we will find out if a Mageia stand has been
accepted again or not. Regardless of that, I am still intending on going
to FOSDEM again next year. Where I been staying the last five years, is
good enough really as a hotel, altough can be a bit run down etc. Got
another two hotels in the same area one is the expensive hotel across the
road, the other is a small hotel wih a more being in a home feel to it,
since it was converted into a hotel from old flats. Was thinking of
possibly staying there instead next year, however the hotel that been
staying at actually pick up and take back to the air port no problem, once
booked (for a fee of course) as well, which makes getting there and back
easier, plus it has quite a lot of rooms, which should make it eaiser to
stay there in differnet rooms.

Heh FOSDEM, if meeting someone else from England there, and saying to them
that actually went on a plane to get there, may get the why didn't you go
on the train response from them. However indeed from down here, flying is
way more convienent since can go from Bristol air port. Going to where the
train to Brussels goes from is a what two hours or so journey already.
Once the plane goes only takes about an hour and a bit.

Don't book any hotels or travel just yet, but doing so early enough should
make it cheaper for the flight anyway. I was thinking that if some of us
are to go from the LUG, that we can also go there and back on same dates,
and stay in the same hotel as well. I usually would stay in the same hotel
as where certain Mageia people would stay, which has been the same one the
last five years, however really was less of us staying there this year,
because of certain reasons, including the fact that not all Mageia
contributers who come to FOSDEM stay in the same hotel, in fact some seem
to keep it more secret generally from the rest of us, as to where they
will be staying. Mageia is also a mostly French project.

Sometimes going early on the Thursday for FOSDEM, makes more sense or more
recently, because may be something else happening on the Friday before the
beer event for example, possibly a Richard Stallman talk, but had issues
the last two years trying to get to that, however ah well had already
expereinced him speak like three years ago in Bath.

2014 was the first time I went early on the Thursday evening, but that was
since I could, and was specifically going early to mett someone from San
Diego for a first time, who's in the Mageia project, however been going on
Thursdays since. The first year I went since who I was wit,h had to go
back on the Sunday evening after the event, but I don't like going back
home on the same day an event like that finnishes be that FOSDEM or OGG
Camp, I am one of those go back the next day people or ideally.

Regards

Sebastian

On Tuesday, 25 October 2016 17:11:38 BST, Steve Netting via Bristol
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>
> I'm considering FOSDEM but have yet to book flight/hotel.
>
> Also, it's probably worth mentioning our IRC channel on the Facebook
> group/description as this is where most of the chat seems to happen
> (albeit predominantly SCART based).
>
>
> Steve
>
>
> On 25/10/16 12:58, Sebastian via Bristol wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Our event last Saturday for Linux Presentation Day (
>> http://linux-presentation-day.org.uk ) was mostly nice and
>> successful. Although did end up with a few issues to sort out at the
>> event etc, but nothing major, such as to do with the USB's. We also
>> had a good turn out of about 20 people from the general public, and it
>> seems that most event visitors enjoyed themselves.
>>
>> The USB issue was that well in the end actually got 50 or so offical
>> Ubuntu USB's sent, even though had been told that woudn't get them,
>> since a logisitcs issue, on IRC before by someone from the Canonical
>> Community Team. However then I found out the evening before the
>> event, that they were actually blank, nothing on them, so some or
>> more, had Ubuntu 16.04 put on them at the event. The moral of the
>> story is to check at least some of the USB's, if not all of them,
>> before an event, when being sent them like that.
>>
>> The plan is to run another two Linux Presentation Day events next
>> year, probably in April and probably in October as well, but maybe May
>> and November instead. Linux Presentation Day events are ideally meant
>> to be twice a year. Anyway it turns out that next year this LUG is
>> going to probably actually have three events, yes THREE, with membes
>> of the LUG behind them, (,which is impressive considering what our LUG
>> is like in general), with one of our other fellow members having ideas
>> for something bigger, and that also won't be for LPD. He would like
>> to mainly organise an event that's bigger, and one where actually have
>> speeches as well. Public speaking awesome! Nothing has been decided
>> properly yet, and I don't have proper details, but its looking like
>> that event will probably be in July, if it is to happen.
>> Going back to Linux Presentation Day it seems that most event
>> visitors came in, because of the paid Facebook advert that had been
>> running for about two weeks. Would have been like three weeks, but
>> originally had issues setting it up properly and as a result keeping
>> it running. I know it probably won't get used much, but there's also
>> now as of today a Facebook group for our LUG on Facebook as wel.
>>
>> Events, events, are usually fun! However no OGG Camp (
>> http://oggcamp.org ) this year, so its looking like my next tech event
>> will be the AWESOME FOSDEM (Free Open Source Developers European
>> Meeting) again, for my sixth time, since been going every year since
>> 2012 like with OGG Camp. FOSDEM is sarting to feel like its coming up
>> again already, but currently isn't that near, since its the first
>> weekend of Februrary. For anyone who is into open source enough, be
>> that as just mostly a user like me, or as a developer, FOSDEM is an
>> awesome expereince! However one that does not happen in the UK, but
>> rather in (or near) Brussels Belgium. FOSDEM is probably also at least
>> a bit more awesome when got people to meet over there from a proper
>> project, like with myself, and Sim from Jolla who was at the LPD on
>> Saturday. However yes its the kind of event that certain famous
>> people in the open source / free software world will go to as well,
>> and I even got to meet and breifly chat to and shake hands wih Mark
>> Shuttleworth this year. No I didn't ask him how his trip to space
>> went when meeting.
>>
>> With FOSDEM and OGG Camp, I went with someone else the first year
>> (not a techie), but all other years done all the travelling there and
>> back on my own, so would be awesome if could actually do that next
>> year with at least one person from the LUG, but its looking like there
>> may be a person or two already, who may seriously be inerested in
>> going. Also it seems going by the mailing list archeive that in 2008
>> or whenever it was a group of people from the LUG actsually went and
>> did FOSDEM together. Anyway who would be seriously interested in
>> going to and back from FOSDEM next year with me, and why? FOSDEM is
>> massive people have differnet interests etc, so whilst over there
>> won't always be together of course, but can probably also get you into
>> to the Mageia meal on Saturday night, assuming that Mageia will be
>> there again as usual.
>> Friday night starts off with a MASSIVE Crazy beer event, with the
>> conference itself being Saturday and Sunday at a massive university.
>> Saturday night various project meals will happen. FOSDEM is so massive
>> that always going to miss something speechwise, that may be of
>> interest, but they video quite a lot of speeches as well. It's a
>> great event for stocking up on tech t-shirts as well, nearly every
>> stand will have t-shirts, and a few stands give away decent free
>> ones, but otherwise they sell for about 10 euros usually. I have made
>> the mistake of not being early enough to certain stands a few times
>> before though, to get a certain t-shirt, or get it, but in the right
>> size. However there is a main building of stands with two floors of
>> stands, plus another building, etc.
>>
>> The other year I belive it was 2015, by coincidence whilst going
>> around some of the stands at FOSDEM, there was a guy at one of the
>> stands, that I started chatting to a bit, since he sounded English,
>> and turns out he was from Bristol. Apparantly he had actually been in
>> the audiance as well, when I spoke at the IT Mega Meet the first year
>> it was on in 2012. Anyway FOSDEM weekend he had no proper plans for
>> the Saturday night, but was able to get him into the Mageia meal.
>> Anyway we were going to meet up again at the first LUG meeting after
>> the event it seems, but I didn't go, and we lost contact as well. If
>> the person I am reffering to just happens to be reading this, I would
>> be interested in meeting you soon again at a LUG meeting.
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>
>


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 09:36:16 +0100
From: Steve Netting <steve@track3.org.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc.
Message-ID: <c5af88d2-7c8d-c665-3312-48304b86a7bb@netting.org.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed


On 25/10/16 19:14, Sebastian via Bristol wrote:
>
> I think if we are going to do IRC seriously, that should have a
> channel on Freenode. Freenode is where it's mostly at for tech IRC
> channels, I rarely go on any other networks in general.
>

We have a well established channel on irc.perl.org. It's not a network
I typically use either, but #bblug has existed there for as long as I
can remember; probably since the mid to late 90s. It's probably Dave or
cms's fault. Blame them :)

> By the way not qute sure who you are, even though just looked and yes
> seems you been on this mailing list, for quite a long time.
>

Long time member, since the 90s, attended some of the early meets in
Bristol, ex RedHatter, amateur radio enthusiast, Amigan (hey the 68k
port of debian has been revived!), part time SCART consultant and LUGBOT
maintainer. Nowadays I mostly lurk in #bblug but can be tempted out
with beer.


Steve
M0SPN


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 09:39:31 +0100
From: cms <cms@beatworm.co.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc.
Message-ID: <418dd41f-7cb0-ad7b-026b-9972920a61fa@beatworm.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 26/10/16 09:36, Steve Netting via Bristol wrote:
> We have a well established channel on irc.perl.org. It's not a network
> I typically use either, but #bblug has existed there for as long as I
> can remember; probably since the mid to late 90s. It's probably Dave or
> cms's fault. Blame them

I think it was Shevek! I expect I have the announce mail somewhere in an
archive

--
Regards,
Colin M. Strickland, cms, 'that guy'

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc. (Richard Wall)
2. Re: Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc. (Nigel Sollars)
3. Re: Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc. (Sebastian)
4. Re: Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc. (Sebastian)
5. Re: Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc. (Nigel Sollars)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 13:52:49 +0100
From: Richard Wall <richard@the-moon.net>
To: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>, Bristol and Bath Linux User
Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc.
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On 25 October 2016 at 12:58, Sebastian via Bristol
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
> Our event last Saturday for Linux Presentation Day (
> http://linux-presentation-day.org.uk ) was mostly nice and successful.

Hey Sebastian,

Thanks to you and the other LUG guys for organising such a great event.
I learned heaps and got quite fired up about building my own Raspberry
PI powered HiFi system!

> With FOSDEM and OGG Camp, I went with someone else the first year (not a
> techie), but all other years done all the travelling there and back on my
> own, so would be awesome if could actually do that next year with at least
> one person from the LUG, but its looking like there may be a person or two
> already, who may seriously be inerested in going.

I'm definitely interested in going to FOSDEM.

See you at the next LUG meeting.

-RichardW

--
https://github.com/wallrj

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 10:16:10 -0400
From: Nigel Sollars <nsollars@gmail.com>
To: Richard Wall <richard@the-moon.net>, Bristol and Bath Linux User
Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Cc: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc.
Message-ID:
<CAG6aBkXUCizvcwZ6PAN8NxbD9_rMLQ0zPC_7fKb0=LE0QgEkZQ@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

If you like things like the Pi and what not do look at Onion's Omega2
system also,

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/onion/omega2-5-iot-computer-with-wi-fi-powered-by-linux

Come with nifty tools docks and all kinds of fun stuff...

Nige

On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 8:52 AM, Richard Wall via Bristol <
bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:

> On 25 October 2016 at 12:58, Sebastian via Bristol
> <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
> > Our event last Saturday for Linux Presentation Day (
> > http://linux-presentation-day.org.uk ) was mostly nice and successful.
>
> Hey Sebastian,
>
> Thanks to you and the other LUG guys for organising such a great event.
> I learned heaps and got quite fired up about building my own Raspberry
> PI powered HiFi system!
>
> > With FOSDEM and OGG Camp, I went with someone else the first year (not a
> > techie), but all other years done all the travelling there and back on my
> > own, so would be awesome if could actually do that next year with at
> least
> > one person from the LUG, but its looking like there may be a person or
> two
> > already, who may seriously be inerested in going.
>
> I'm definitely interested in going to FOSDEM.
>
> See you at the next LUG meeting.
>
> -RichardW
>
> --
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>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 15:42:44 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc.
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On Tuesday, 25 October 2016 13:52:49 BST, Richard Wall via Bristol
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
> On 25 October 2016 at 12:58, Sebastian via Bristol
> <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>> Our event last Saturday for Linux Presentation Day (
>> http://linux-presentation-day.org.uk ) was mostly nice and successful.
>
> Hey Sebastian,
>
> Thanks to you and the other LUG guys for organising such a great event.

Yes I had about three months, where I had to do most of the organising
etc, for the event, myself, however the Creative Commons aspect to the
event for example, really did seem to come out quite well, after arranging
it properly with David. Glad you enjoyed the event. Added all this in
before sending, replying below really:

> I learned heaps and got quite fired up about building my own Raspberry
> PI powered HiFi system!
>
>> With FOSDEM and OGG Camp, I went with someone else the first year (not a
>> techie), but all other years done all the travelling there and back on my
>> own, so would be awesome if could actually do that next year with at least
>> one person from the LUG, but its looking like there may be a person or two
>> already, who may seriously be inerested in going.
>
> I'm definitely interested in going to FOSDEM.
>
> See you at the next LUG meeting.
>
> -RichardW
>

Hi Richard

Regarding FOSDEM, it looks like going by your Github link, that you may be
one of the two guys I was reffering to, but I am not sure. Had someone
who joined us for food and drinks afer the event, who was into Docker etc.
Is that person you? it looks like probably is going by the Github link. If
not though and your actually another person who is interested in possibly
going to FOSDEM as well, that's good :).

I was hoping that the event on Saturday would bring more people into the
LUG meetings as well in general, but that's great if you will start coming,
and hopefully a few others who visited the event.

How did you find out about the event, or were you also the person we knew
about who picked up a USB from upstairs?

It's quite standard to ask new members to introduce them selves on the
list, so please do that, of interest. Ideally whilst answering questions
such as what got you into Linux, how long you have used it for, what
distros you like and interfaces etc, basically please provide your general
Linux using story.

Yes I should be at next months LUG meeting at about 3pm, maybe earlier, so
hope to meet you there, and other new people etc, then I stay at the pub
untill about 6:30 probably, well if still got someone. Some of us usually
turn up a bit later, and stay a bit later as well, where as others are more
come early, leave earlyish.

Regards

Sebastian

P.S

Was meaning to get a FOSDEM link into that other email, but since I had to
re do the text for such a email, it didn't get in, when typing a new
message and subject: http://fosdem.org


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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 16:13:55 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Nigel Sollars <nsollars@gmail.com>, <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
<richard@the-moon.net>, <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc.
Message-ID: <099778ef-da37-44c0-8486-e1d4190aa65b@gmx.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Sometimes when I type in the LUG mailing list email address myself or uh
try to, I get it worng, like with the below email:

On Tuesday, 25 October 2016 16:08:49 BST, Sebastian
<sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Tuesday, 25 October 2016 15:16:10 BST, Nigel Sollars
> <nsollars@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If you like things like the Pi and what not do look at Onion's Omega2
>> system also,
>>
>> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/onion/omega2-5-iot-computer-with-wi-fi-powered-by-linux
>
>
> I nearly crowd funded that, but then didn't since I reolised
> how I probably
> woudn't really use it for anything, or as such, like how I have two
> Rasspbery Pi's that haven't really been used properly so far. One of which
> I bought before, the other I won in the raffel at a OGG Camp event. Oh
> sure I know Rasspbery Pi's are meant to be amazing or uh can be, depending
> on how they are used, but quite simply I prefer devices that
> actually come
> with a screen now,and keyboad, and maybe a mouse or touch pad or screen.
> Otherwise got to mess around with various cables usually as well and uh.
>
> Crowd funding well I did crowd fund the Chip and so Pocket Chip as well,
> the chip itself which is also inside the Pocketchip, will look like a
> Rassbery Pi, but the pocket chip comes in a nice enclousure
> that can easily
> take off if wanting to even, since no screws. The keyboard is qwerty, but
> done a bit differently from the usual qwerty keyboad . It's a ARM based
> device that looks quite small and runs Debian Linux, on good quality but
> cheap hardware with a touch screen. Yes a real proper Debian Linux ARM
> version with their interface. However like with my Rassbery Pis the
> chip I also have that isn't for the Pocketchip, hasn't been used properly
> so far.
>
> Nigel I would show you the Pocket Chip, but I guess your still live in
> Florida. How's that going by the way? MIssing England at all?
>
> Richard I'll have the Pocket Chip along with me to the next LUG meeting,
> maybe I showed you at the event, but probably not. Did you see any of my
> devices?
>
>>
>> Come with nifty tools docks and all kinds of fun stuff...
>>
>> Nige
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 8:52 AM, Richard Wall via Bristol <
>> bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 25 October 2016 at 12:58, Sebastian via Bristol
>>> <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>>> > Our event last Saturday for Linux Presentation Day (
>>> > http://linux-presentation-day.org.uk ) was mostly nice and successful.
>>>
>>> Hey Sebastian,
>>>
>>> Thanks to you and the other LUG guys for organising such a great event.
>>> I learned heaps and got quite fired up about building my own Raspberry
>>> PI powered HiFi system!
>>>
>>> > With FOSDEM and OGG Camp, I went with someone else the
>>> first year (not a
>>> > techie), but all other years done all the travelling there
>>> and back on my
>>> > own, so would be awesome if could actually do that next year with at
>>> least
>>> > one person from the LUG, but its looking like there may be a person or
>>> two
>>> > already, who may seriously be inerested in going.
>>>
>>> I'm definitely interested in going to FOSDEM.
>>>
>>> See you at the next LUG meeting.
>>>
>>> -RichardW
>>>
>>> --
>>> https://github.com/wallrj
>>>
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Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 11:30:57 -0400
From: Nigel Sollars <nsollars@gmail.com>
To: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Cc: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Richard Wall <richard@the-moon.net>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Events! LPD, FOSDEM, etc.
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Screens mice / keyoards clearly point to bigger iron, I was merely
pointing out more platforms other than Pi, 96boards is usually where its
at for anything bigger / costing more aka Dragon 410c based etc etc etc ...

Pi i think suffers thanks to BCM and the blob requirement, I just dont
like Broadcom ..

I think the Omega2 suites well for real beginners into the IoT space
especially for those not wanting to go bare metal with Pic or AVR.

Nige

On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
wrote:

> Sometimes when I type in the LUG mailing list email address myself or uh
> try to, I get it worng, like with the below email:
>
>
> On Tuesday, 25 October 2016 16:08:49 BST, Sebastian <
> sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 25 October 2016 15:16:10 BST, Nigel Sollars <
>> nsollars@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If you like things like the Pi and what not do look at Onion's Omega2
>>> system also,
>>>
>>> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/onion/omega2-5-iot-comp
>>> uter-with-wi-fi-powered-by-linux
>>>
>>
>>
>> I nearly crowd funded that, but then didn't since I reolised how I
>> probably woudn't really use it for anything, or as such, like how I have
>> two Rasspbery Pi's that haven't really been used properly so far. One of
>> which I bought before, the other I won in the raffel at a OGG Camp event.
>> Oh sure I know Rasspbery Pi's are meant to be amazing or uh can be,
>> depending on how they are used, but quite simply I prefer devices that
>> actually come with a screen now,and keyboad, and maybe a mouse or touch
>> pad or screen. Otherwise got to mess around with various cables usually as
>> well and uh.
>>
>> Crowd funding well I did crowd fund the Chip and so Pocket Chip as well,
>> the chip itself which is also inside the Pocketchip, will look like a
>> Rassbery Pi, but the pocket chip comes in a nice enclousure that can easily
>> take off if wanting to even, since no screws. The keyboard is qwerty, but
>> done a bit differently from the usual qwerty keyboad . It's a ARM based
>> device that looks quite small and runs Debian Linux, on good quality but
>> cheap hardware with a touch screen. Yes a real proper Debian Linux ARM
>> version with their interface. However like with my Rassbery Pis the
>> chip I also have that isn't for the Pocketchip, hasn't been used properly
>> so far.
>>
>> Nigel I would show you the Pocket Chip, but I guess your still live in
>> Florida. How's that going by the way? MIssing England at all?
>>
>> Richard I'll have the Pocket Chip along with me to the next LUG meeting,
>> maybe I showed you at the event, but probably not. Did you see any of my
>> devices?
>>
>>
>>> Come with nifty tools docks and all kinds of fun stuff...
>>>
>>> Nige
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 8:52 AM, Richard Wall via Bristol <
>>> bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 25 October 2016 at 12:58, Sebastian via Bristol
>>>> <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> > Our event last Saturday for Linux Presentation Day (
>>>> > http://linux-presentation-day.org.uk ) was mostly nice and
>>>> successful.
>>>>
>>>> Hey Sebastian,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to you and the other LUG guys for organising such a great event.
>>>> I learned heaps and got quite fired up about building my own Raspberry
>>>> PI powered HiFi system!
>>>>
>>>> > With FOSDEM and OGG Camp, I went with someone else the first year
>>>> (not a
>>>> > techie), but all other years done all the travelling there and back
>>>> on my
>>>> > own, so would be awesome if could actually do that next year with at
>>>> least
>>>> > one person from the LUG, but its looking like there may be a person or
>>>> two
>>>> > already, who may seriously be inerested in going.
>>>>
>>>> I'm definitely interested in going to FOSDEM.
>>>>
>>>> See you at the next LUG meeting.
>>>>
>>>> -RichardW
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> https://github.com/wallrj
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Bristol mailing list
>>>> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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>

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