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Bristol Digest, Vol 606, Issue 2

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Today's Topics:

1. Debugging Slow Shutdown (systemd Fedora 20) (Peter Hemmings)
2. Re: Debugging Slow Shutdown (systemd Fedora 20) (Amias Channer)
3. Re: Debugging Slow Shutdown (systemd Fedora 20) (Peter Hemmings)
4. Re: Introduction for Usergroup Meeting on Saturday (Sebastian)
5. UEFI LUG Meeting Help this Saturday? 27/0615 (Sebastian)
6. Re: UEFI LUG Meeting Help this Saturday? 27/0615 (eddie smith)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 15:16:21 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Debugging Slow Shutdown (systemd Fedora 20)
Message-ID: <558D5EB5.4020309@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
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Hi,

I am havinrg a problem on slow shutdown and trying to see exactly what
is causing it by using this info (Shutdown Completes Eventually):


http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/#shutdowncompleteseventually

It involves booting in debug mode and running script to log the shutdown
to see what is timed out, but unfortunately I do not have a:

/usr/lib/systemd/shutdown folder to put the script into!

Where should I put my script, I do have a "system-shutdown" folder
under systemd!!?

Regards


--
Peter H



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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 15:33:51 +0100
From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Debugging Slow Shutdown (systemd Fedora 20)
Message-ID:
<CAMgU7XXE9HQUf4kQ2f-+xdtJWK=cFFpKzC3C5zQL6JjnsTULtQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Hello Peter,

surely you can just make the folder with mkdir

Cheers
Amias

On 26 June 2015 at 15:16, Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am havinrg a problem on slow shutdown and trying to see exactly what is
> causing it by using this info (Shutdown Completes Eventually):
>
>
> http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/#shutdowncompleteseventually
>
> It involves booting in debug mode and running script to log the shutdown to
> see what is timed out, but unfortunately I do not have a:
>
> /usr/lib/systemd/shutdown folder to put the script into!
>
> Where should I put my script, I do have a "system-shutdown" folder under
> systemd!!?
>
> Regards
>
>
> --
> Peter H
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bristol mailing list
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 17:31:50 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Debugging Slow Shutdown (systemd Fedora 20)
Message-ID: <558D7E76.7080905@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
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On 26/06/15 15:33, Amias Channer wrote:
> Hello Peter,
>
> surely you can just make the folder with mkdir

yep, but I am not sure how these things work together!

I do not know if systemctl journald work the same on all distributions
ie they are all configured to look in the came folders or if some
distros are configured differently!

If systemctl works exactly the same for fc20 then I will try but I was
not sure, do you know if systemctl is not distro specific?

>
> Cheers
> Amias
>
> On 26 June 2015 at 15:16, Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am havinrg a problem on slow shutdown and trying to see exactly what is
>> causing it by using this info (Shutdown Completes Eventually):
>>
>>
>> http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/#shutdowncompleteseventually
>>
>> It involves booting in debug mode and running script to log the shutdown to
>> see what is timed out, but unfortunately I do not have a:
>>
>> /usr/lib/systemd/shutdown folder to put the script into!
>>
>> Where should I put my script, I do have a "system-shutdown" folder under
>> systemd!!?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> --
>> Peter H
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bristol mailing list
>> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 21:39:57 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Cc: "sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com" <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Introduction for Usergroup Meeting on Saturday
Message-ID: <9880C211-E293-4C54-83FD-76769A0EE211@gmx.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8



> On 25 Jun 2015, at 20:47, Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Rico,
>
> Welcome to the list, in case you have not seen it, details of the group are here:
> http://www.bristol.lug.org.uk/
Yes welcome and I am about to email something about tomorrows meeting :).
>
> It is a bit out of date as our Linuxlive was 15 months ago!
>
> (Marc could you get it removed please!?)
>
>
>> On 25/06/15 17:40, Rico Kuehlewind wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> my name is Rico, I?m a student at the University of Bristol. If possible I
>> would like to attend the user group meeting next(?) saturday. I?m
>> interested in email encryption and anonymisation as well as python
>> scripting, my experience level is rather low though. Looking forward to
>> meeting you!
>>
>> Cheers, Rico
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
> FYI most people arrive between 13-00 and 14-00Hrs and depart anytime but usually before 17-00Hrs!
> I hope to be there about 14-00Hrs but we seem to be into the "silly season"when not many turn up!
>
> Anyone else likely to be there?
>
> I know we have over 200 on the list and some live in Sweden (and London) but surely there are some more "locals" who could get to the KT for an hour or two even though I agree it has been a bit noisy of late. If members do not like the KT then suggest another!
>
> Regards
>
> --
> Peter H
>
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 22:47:41 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: "bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Cc: "sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com" <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: [bristol] UEFI LUG Meeting Help this Saturday? 27/0615
Message-ID: <AE0E3C58-F06C-4704-8935-E302B845E3EC@gmx.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi

I expect to be at the Knights Templar pub at about 2pm to about 5:30pm/6pm this Saturday, and I am hoping to get some help with the UEFI on my new lap top whilst there.

As expected UEFI probably wasn't going to be as simple as just disabling UEFI secure boot and installing the Linux distribution on there. I tried with a USB I made for Ubuntu 15.04, but it wouldn't let me install it into the free space I had set up for Linux distros. Yes first lap top with UEFI for me, but soon there will be another one to that I'll be attempting to get dual booted with Windows for someone else.

On my lap top I would like to multi boot with Windows 8.1 (soon to be upgraded to 10), Ubuntu for Unity, Fedora possibly, and Mageia, I also intend to start using virtual machines again soon :).

I don't like Unity 7 much at all, but may as well have it with the specs the lap top has, such as a touch screen. Unity 8 is quite nice in Ubuntu Touch in my experience though on a Ubuntu Phone.

Going back to the LUG meeting itself: For anyone new we sit on the lower level when entering the pub at the back of it, in the left hand side corner with the plugs, or near there instead if someone is already there, and it's just a general informal meeting, that can even be used to show interesting tech related things or give them away.

I hope meet some UEFI experts there tomorrow, and new people etc.

Regards

Sebastian


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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 23:19:43 +0100
From: eddie smith <lug@eddiesmith.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] UEFI LUG Meeting Help this Saturday? 27/0615
Message-ID:
<CAGFc5Q2Bix++Sg0Tz3Oo-F6wm3vnQROVGBbdLwLwWmry-YU1rQ@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi Seb

What's the make and model? We do this all the time at UWE with staff
laptops, mostly HP.

You often need to take one or more of these steps:

- set a boot password
- disable secure boot
- choose legacy boot

Even then it sometimes doesn't work. I've known laptops refuse to
recognise a USB stick, and we have had to use a USB CD drive to boot from..

Hope that helps

Eddie

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 10:47 PM, Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
wrote:

> Hi
>
> I expect to be at the Knights Templar pub at about 2pm to about 5:30pm/6pm
> this Saturday, and I am hoping to get some help with the UEFI on my new
> lap top whilst there.
>
> As expected UEFI probably wasn't going to be as simple as just disabling
> UEFI secure boot and installing the Linux distribution on there. I tried
> with a USB I made for Ubuntu 15.04, but it wouldn't let me install it into
> the free space I had set up for Linux distros. Yes first lap top with UEFI
> for me, but soon there will be another one to that I'll be attempting to
> get dual booted with Windows for someone else.
>
> On my lap top I would like to multi boot with Windows 8.1 (soon to be
> upgraded to 10), Ubuntu for Unity, Fedora possibly, and Mageia, I also
> intend to start using virtual machines again soon :).
>
> I don't like Unity 7 much at all, but may as well have it with the specs
> the lap top has, such as a touch screen. Unity 8 is quite nice in Ubuntu
> Touch in my experience though on a Ubuntu Phone.
>
> Going back to the LUG meeting itself: For anyone new we sit on the lower
> level when entering the pub at the back of it, in the left hand side corner
> with the plugs, or near there instead if someone is already there, and it's
> just a general informal meeting, that can even be used to show interesting
> tech related things or give them away.
>
> I hope meet some UEFI experts there tomorrow, and new people etc.
>
> Regards
>
> Sebastian
> _______________________________________________
> Bristol mailing list
> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
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