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Today's Topics:

1. Just for a larf, I thought I'd offer these here...
(Chris Makepeace)
2. screen savers (jpff)
3. Re: screen savers (Alex Butcher (LUG))
4. Re: screen savers (david)
5. Re: screen savers (Zaniyah)
6. Re: screen savers (jpff)
7. Re: 2tb sd card recomendations? (Neil Fraser)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 18:22:11 +0000
From: Chris Makepeace <chris@makepeace.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Just for a larf, I thought I'd offer these here...
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Wonderful stuff from... Microsoft!
Install CDs for
Windows 95 (with USB support!)
Windows 98 SE
Windows NT4 Workstation
Windows Vista (pirate, cracked), also SP1 CD
Works 8 (2004)

Perl 5 interactive course
iMac Leopard install disks (2)
?Palm Treo 650 data lead?

?Chrs
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 18:41:52 +0000
From: jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: [bristol] screen savers
Message-ID: <1622-Tue09Dec2014184152+0000-jpff@codemist.co.uk>

I am embarrassed to ask such a trivial question, but......

When I watch TV, BBC-iplayer or ITV, the screen saver kicks in every
10 minutes or so (not timed it) and I have to get up an wiggle the
mouse, rather like http://xkcd.com/196/
When I d/load stuff and view with vlc this does not happen, so I
assume that vlc is overriding in some way.

How do I turn screen saving off? There is a .xscreensaver file but I
do not know what it means; or more importantly how to switch it on/off

No desktop; X11 with fvwm with openSuSE. No tray, no icons
==John ffitch



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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 19:04:34 +0000
From: "Alex Butcher (LUG)" <lug@assursys.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] screen savers
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It's up to the application to inhibit the screensaver as necessary, and if configured to do so. The precise method varies from screensaver to screensaver, and some don't include it in some versions (gnome-screensaver, IIRC).

Presumably this is Adobe flash video?

What browser(s) are you using?

What screensaver are you using? Check, because just because you have a .xscreensaver file in your home directory doesn't necessarily mean that's what you're using.

Best regards,
Alex

On 9 December 2014 18:41:52 GMT+00:00, jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:
>I am embarrassed to ask such a trivial question, but......
>
>When I watch TV, BBC-iplayer or ITV, the screen saver kicks in every
>10 minutes or so (not timed it) and I have to get up an wiggle the
>mouse, rather like http://xkcd.com/196/
> When I d/load stuff and view with vlc this does not happen, so I
>assume that vlc is overriding in some way.
>
>How do I turn screen saving off? There is a .xscreensaver file but I
>do not know what it means; or more importantly how to switch it on/off
>
>No desktop; X11 with fvwm with openSuSE. No tray, no icons
>==John ffitch
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 19:48:06 +0000
From: david <david@avoncliff.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] screen savers
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On 09/12/14 18:41, jpff wrote:
> I am embarrassed to ask such a trivial question, but......
>
> When I watch TV, BBC-iplayer or ITV, the screen saver kicks in every
> 10 minutes or so (not timed it) and I have to get up an wiggle the
> mouse, rather like http://xkcd.com/196/
> When I d/load stuff and view with vlc this does not happen, so I
> assume that vlc is overriding in some way.
>
> How do I turn screen saving off? There is a .xscreensaver file but I
> do not know what it means; or more importantly how to switch it on/off
>
> No desktop; X11 with fvwm with openSuSE. No tray, no icons
> ==John ffitch
>
I use caffeine, but not sure if this would work no desktop.

http://linux.die.net/man/1/xscreensaver

Gives instructions for setting the timeout in the config file, and a lot
more.....

Can you just delete it?

David




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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 20:30:34 +0000
From: Zaniyah <zan@zaniyah.org>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] screen savers
Message-ID: <54875BEA.5010207@zaniyah.org>
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On 09/12/14 18:41, jpff wrote:
> I am embarrassed to ask such a trivial question, but......
>
> When I watch TV, BBC-iplayer or ITV, the screen saver kicks in every
> 10 minutes or so (not timed it) and I have to get up an wiggle the
> mouse, rather like http://xkcd.com/196/
> When I d/load stuff and view with vlc this does not happen, so I
> assume that vlc is overriding in some way.
>
> How do I turn screen saving off? There is a .xscreensaver file but I
> do not know what it means; or more importantly how to switch it on/off
>
> No desktop; X11 with fvwm with openSuSE. No tray, no icons
> ==John ffitch
>

With a similar set up, I use xscreensaver-command for this. You can
shut it down, or start it up that way from a terminal.

Eg

xscreensaver-command -exit

You should have a manpage for it on your machine.

Z.



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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 20:33:00 +0000 (GMT)
From: jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] screen savers
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On Tue, 9 Dec 2014, Alex Butcher (LUG) wrote:

> It's up to the application to inhibit the screensaver as necessary, and if
> configured to do so. The precise method varies from screensaver to
> screensaver, and some don't include it in some versions (gnome-screensaver,
> IIRC).
>
> Presumably this is Adobe flash video?

I guess so but not certain

>
> What browser(s) are you using?


Seamonkey; I do have firefox which I rarely use

>
> What screensaver are you using? Check, because just because you have a
> .xscreensaver file in your home directory doesn't necessarily mean that's what
> you're using.
>

I have no idea what screen saver is in use. I get a blan screen after
some idle time. Searched for references to screen saving in various
places with no success

I did notice that the .xscreensaver file is from 2002 but I have been
using X11+fvwm since way before that. Could be from my SGI days?

> Best regards,
> Alex
>

Thanks for the response. I even looked at the sources of vlc without much
enlightenment.

However looking closely at fvwm configurations I think I need "xset s off"

==Jphn ff

> On 9 December 2014 18:41:52 GMT+00:00, jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I am embarrassed to ask such a trivial question, but......
> When I watch TV, BBC-iplayer or ITV, the screen saver kicks in every
> 10 minutes or so (not timed it) and I have to get up an wiggle the
> mouse, rather like http://xkcd.com/196/
> When I d/load stuff and view with vlc this does not happen, so I
> assume that vlc is overriding in some way.
> How do I turn screen saving off? There is a .xscreensaver file but I
> do not know what it means; or more importantly how to switch it on/off
> No desktop; X11 with fvwm with openSuSE. No tray, no icons
> ==John ffitch
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 21:36:14 +0000
From: Neil Fraser <nfraser@nadtechnology.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] 2tb sd card recomendations?
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HI

Be wary also that there were/are some "fake" large CD cards that are really
smaller capacity drives with large labels on them. Although presumable they
would be hard to format past their native capacity.

HTH

Neil

On 9 December 2014 at 13:53, Amias Channer <me@amias.net> wrote:

> Hello Alex,
>
> thanks for the clarification , some older devices don't seem to handle the
> whole of the 32GiB in my experience.
> I had some odd issues with large memory cards and older devices but did'nt
> have time to properly diagnose them.
>
> Cheers
> Amias
>
> On 9 December 2014 at 12:56, Alex Butcher <lug@assursys.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 9 Dec 2014, Amias Channer wrote:
>>
>> Although you are likely to hit limits in the vfat filesystem that most
>>> devices use on flash storage if you go beyond 4GB , i'm pretty sue you
>>> will
>>> get errors when formatting if you try to make it bigger than that.
>>>
>>
>> SDHC devices are formatted with FAT32 (aka vfat) by default. They go upto
>> 32GiB. Windows won't create FAT32 filesystems larger than 32GiB, offering
>> exFAT or NTFS instead. Linux doesn't care. The file size limit is 4GiB-1
>> byte, though.
>>
>> SDXC devices are formatted with exFAT by default. They go from 64GiB to
>> 512GiB currently. I've used a 64GiB micro SDXC in a phone (Samsung
>> Galaxy S
>> II) that claimed to only support upto 32GiB SDHC and it was fine once
>> reformatted with FAT32. This behaviour will vary from device to device,
>> though, according to <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#SDXC>.
>> Implementing exFAT requires licenses from Microsoft, which is why many
>> devices (specifically, their kernels) don't support it.
>>
>> Cheers
>>> Amias
>>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Alex
>>
>>
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