Rabu, 21 Mei 2014

Bristol Digest, Vol 551, Issue 2

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Today's Topics:

1. Remote desktop and WOL Advice (Peter Hemmings)
2. Re: Bristol Digest, Vol 551, Issue 1 (Matthew Symes)
3. Re: Remote desktop and WOL Advice (David Smith)
4. Re: Meeting at the KT this Saturday (David Smith)
5. Re: Remote desktop and WOL Advice (Steve King)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 13:23:23 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Remote desktop and WOL Advice
Message-ID: <537C9ABB.5020709@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
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Hi,

I am now having a problem in getting up and down stairs so need an easy
way to view my PC Desktop on a laptop/TV downstairs. It would also be
really handy to do something like WOL to switch the PC on. I have played
with ssh and remote desktop over the years but never been successful and
would just like advice on the best way to go as my need is now a bit
urgent and need an easy/ reliable solution?

My present set up possible H/W that might be used is attached
--
Peter H
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Present H/W and config:

PC: Homemade with MSI P35 Neo2 M/B that has BIOS option (Power Management)
"Resume by PCI Device (PME#)" which I understand is to do with WOL.
Wired to router (Netgear 843G).

Laptop: IBM T60 on wireless LAN IP tied to mac address

S/W: PC has Fedora 18 and T60 has Fedora 19 both have "remotedesktop".

I also have a raspberry PI and an Android TV dongle which I thought could be used to get my PC desktop on the TV which is also wired into the Router but is not a full smart Samsung TV, only their limited S/W thats no longer supported!

My printer is an epson R300 used via USB cable.


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 14:03:36 +0100 (BST)
From: Matthew Symes <matthew_symes@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Bristol Digest, Vol 551, Issue 1
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What / where is the KT ?

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 06:56:07 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Meeting At The KT This Saturday
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Just a reminder for Saturday starting around 12-30hrs and finishing
about 16-30hrs.

Unfortunately I cannot get there as I have a ruptured ligament and have
my foot in plaster for quite a few weeks/months!

I am in need of some urgent advice on remote desktoping and (as it is
rather difficult getting up and down stairs) will post details later today.


Regards

--
Peter H



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 08:20:54 +0100
From: Chris <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Meeting At The KT This Saturday
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On 21 May 2014 06:56:07 BST, Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>Just a reminder for Saturday starting around 12-30hrs and finishing
>about 16-30hrs.
>

I'll be there about 13.30.

Chris

>Unfortunately I cannot get there as I have a ruptured ligament and have
>
>my foot in plaster for quite a few weeks/months!
>
>I am in need of some urgent advice on remote desktoping and (as it is
>rather difficult getting up and down stairs) will post details later
>today.
>
>
>Regards





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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 13:07:28 +0000
From: David Smith <David.Smith@imgtec.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Remote desktop and WOL Advice
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> -----Original Message-----
> I am now having a problem in getting up and down stairs so need an easy
> way to view my PC Desktop on a laptop/TV downstairs. It would also be
> really handy to do something like WOL to switch the PC on. I have played
> with ssh and remote desktop over the years but never been successful and
> would just like advice on the best way to go as my need is now a bit urgent
> and need an easy/ reliable solution?
>
> My present set up possible H/W that might be used is attached

Setup a VNC server on your desktop, and connect to it from a VNC client. If on the laptop, just download the appropriate VNC client for the OS it's running (if VNC client is not already installed). If on the TV, use a RPi Model B and run VNC client on it.

You can either use VNC server to create a new desktop (separate from what the server currently shows on its screen), or integrate it with X so that it serves the actual X desktop. The second option will require editing your X config and restarting X.



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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 13:10:13 +0000
From: David Smith <David.Smith@imgtec.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Meeting at the KT this Saturday
Message-ID:
<15A9D35B5490FC49AC0524AE3A085F08667E79@BRMAIL01.br.imgtec.org>
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(Apologies for top-posting; I'm forced to use Outlook :()

The Knights Templar pub (Wetherspoons) in the Temple Quay development next to Bristol Temple Meads.

From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Matthew Symes
Sent: 21 May 2014 14:04
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Bristol Digest, Vol 551, Issue 1

What / where is the KT ?

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 14:36:10 +0100
From: "Steve King" <debian@invux.com>
To: "Bristol and Bath Linux User Group" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Remote desktop and WOL Advice
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> Hi,
>
> I am now having a problem in getting up and down stairs so need an easy
> way to view my PC Desktop on a laptop/TV downstairs. It would also be
> really handy to do something like WOL to switch the PC on. I have played
> with ssh and remote desktop over the years but never been successful and
> would just like advice on the best way to go as my need is now a bit
> urgent and need an easy/ reliable solution?
>

There are various utilities for wake-on-lan, the one I have used (in
debian) is called etherwake. But numerous similar things exist, I even
have one on my android phone.

The raw ethernet wake-on-lan applications generally only work if you are
on the same LAN segment (broadcast domain), which I expect you will be.
There are some that send TCP packets with WOL ethernet packets embedded
within them, which are supposed to allow you to WOL from a different LAN
segment.

Some motherboards will take longer to boot from a WOL packet power on than
normally, as they will try a net boot which will have to fail, before they
boot from the hdd.

Then, remote access from your laptop to your desktop. It depends what you
want to accomplish.

You can start with:
If you have openssh server configured with X11Forwarding yes , you will be
able to open X applications from your server on your laptop.
ssh -X desktop, where 'desktop' is the hostname or ip address of your
desktop machine. Once you are logged in, simply typing the name of the
executable will use your local screen to render its graphics. X (and W
before it) was designed from the start to be network transparent.

If you want a full session, you have the following options, possibly more.
1. Configure your login manager (gdm3, kdm, slim, etc) to support xdmcp,
which is not very secure
2. use vnc4server, to create a login session on your desktop, then connect
via vnc4viewer
3. use xrdp to act as a session broker on your server, use rdesktop to
connect.

If you want sound, it is theoretically possible with the xrdp/rdesktop
method, though I have never tried it.

None of these methods will work very well with full screen video, but if
you don't have that requirement, you should be fine.

--
Steve





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