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Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 14:03:35 +0100
From: Sean Finney <msfin303@yahoo.co.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: [bristol] Bristol Digest, Vol 552, Issue 8
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Martin
It looks like you have a disk with bad sectors
Have you used "Disk utility" and checked "SMART" Data, to check the
state of the disk?
Regards
Sean
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> To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: [bristol] Disc woes
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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> I've got a debian mdadm Raid1 with a dicky partition.
>
>
>
> Replaced duff disk and setup the new partitions. (Note this is booting the
> resident kernel via a CD as grub is confused at this point!)
>
>
>
> When resyncing, some of the partitions fail on a READ from the SOURCE, which
> seems odd.
>
>
>
> I tried a dd which has the same issues.
>
>
>
> Rebooted from CD using the CD kernel and fsck on all the MDx reports no
> problems.
>
>
>
> I'm about to put the drive into the fridge for a bit, but have I missed
> anything?
>
>
>
> I REALLY don't want to lose this disc.....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Martin.
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Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 14:13:34 +0100
From: James Womack <james.c.womack@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] TrueCrypt
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Hi all,
In case you missed it, something odd is going on with TrueCrypt and
truecrypt.org.
http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/05/bombshell-truecrypt-advisory-backdoor-hack-hoax-none-of-the-above/
I used to use TrueCrypt more, but have mostly migrated to
LUKS/dm-crypt, but still have some TrueCrypt volumes.
I am going to watch this with interest. Seems like a good time to look
into switching completely over to LUKS/dm-crypt, though.
James
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james.c.womack@gmail.com
http://jcwomack.co.uk
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 22:40:30 +0100
From: "Alex Butcher (LUG)" <lug@assursys.co.uk>
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Disc woes
Message-ID: <452f7d55-68b5-42bc-8164-10f0f03053b8@email.android.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Looks like both your discs in the array had errors. That data is lost. Restore from backups. You have backups, right?
If you can work out which file occupies the damaged blocks, might be to it by deleting file and filling all free space with a dummy to a write (and therefore reallocation) to the previously occupied blocks.
And next time, set up a regular RAID scrub and S.M.A.R.T. scans so you detect problems sooner rather than later.
On 30 May 2014 11:37:23 BST, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk> wrote:
>I've got a debian mdadm Raid1 with a dicky partition.
>
>
>
>Replaced duff disk and setup the new partitions. (Note this is booting
>the
>resident kernel via a CD as grub is confused at this point!)
>
>
>
>When resyncing, some of the partitions fail on a READ from the SOURCE,
>which
>seems odd.
>
>
>
>I tried a dd which has the same issues.
>
>
>
>Rebooted from CD using the CD kernel and fsck on all the MDx reports
>no
>problems.
>
>
>
>I'm about to put the drive into the fridge for a bit, but have I missed
>anything?
>
>
>
>I REALLY don't want to lose this disc.....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>
>
>Martin.
>
>
>
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I've got a debian mdadm Raid1 with a dicky partition.
Replaced duff disk and setup the new partitions. (Note this is booting the
resident kernel via a CD as grub is confused at this point!)
When resyncing, some of the partitions fail on a READ from the SOURCE, which
seems odd.
I tried a dd which has the same issues.
Rebooted from CD using the CD kernel and fsck on all the MDx reports no
problems.
I'm about to put the drive into the fridge for a bit, but have I missed
anything?
I REALLY don't want to lose this disc.....
Cheers,
Martin.
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I've got a debian mdadm Raid1 with a dicky partition.
Replaced duff disk and setup the new partitions. (Note this is booting the
resident kernel via a CD as grub is confused at this point!)
When resyncing, some of the partitions fail on a READ from the SOURCE, which
seems odd.
I tried a dd which has the same issues.
Rebooted from CD using the CD kernel and fsck on all the MDx reports no
problems.
I'm about to put the drive into the fridge for a bit, but have I missed
anything?
I REALLY don't want to lose this disc.....
Cheers,
Martin.
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Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 16:43:13 +0100
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Hello Ron,
That duplicates the hdmi to two screens afaict , I want two independent
screens .
Thanks for the suggestion though.
Toodle-pip
Amias
On 29 May 2014 10:15, "Ron Young" <ronyoung2011@gmail.com> wrote:
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>
> Hi I have found an ad from Maplins for a HDMI splitter Code N08GF ?39.95
> there is a spec on this product it's external so will connect to anything.
> I have no experience of this product I just noticed it whilst surfing their
> site.I hope it works ok.
>
>
> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 3:03 PM, <bristol-request@mailman.lug.org.uk>wrote:
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>> 2. Re: Multiple displays for my laptop
>> (bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk)
>> 3. Re: Multiple displays for my laptop
>> (bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk)
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 13:44:12 +0100
>> From: Dez Futak <dez.futak@bcisgnet.co.uk>
>> To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
>> Subject: [bristol] help
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>> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 14:55:34 +0100
>> From: <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk>
>> To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>> Message-ID:
>> <026e01cf78ea$2a9ff480$7fdfdd80$@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk>
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>>
>> Hi Amias,
>>
>>
>>
>> I wasn?t talking about the card slot ? the Matrox device I was talking
>> about plugs into your video port (HDMI or otherwise), and fools the VGA
>> card into believing it?s a widescreen monitor, when in fact it?s a pair of
>> outputs.
>>
>>
>>
>> I?ll see if I can find a link for you?
>>
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:
>> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Amias Channer
>> Sent: 25 May 2014 13:07
>> To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
>> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello john,
>>
>> No it doesn't have port replication or a card slot , just hdmi 1.4 and
>> usb 3 , I think the I tel chipset does that Intel wireless video thing but
>> I've never seen anything to receive it. I'd prefer to have a single
>> connection if possible.
>>
>> The Dell inspiron 7737 runs ubuntu 14.04 really well and I'd recommend it
>> for linux use.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Amias
>>
>> On 25 May 2014 10:52, <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk <mailto:
>> bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk> > wrote:
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:
>> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk>
>> [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:
>> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk> ] On Behalf Of Shane McEwan
>> Sent: 25 May 2014 10:28
>> To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>>
>> On 24/05/14 20:48, Amias Channer wrote:
>> > I have a pair of LG 24 inch LCD IPS panels (VGA/DVI/HDMI) that i want
>> > to use with my dell inspiron 7737 which has usb and hdmi. I'm running
>> > ubuntu 14.04.
>> >
>> > As i understand it my options are a usb 3.0 docking station thing with
>> > dual hdmi or some kind of cable with a lump that combines two hdmi
>> > screens to display one hdmi output.
>>
>> In my, limited, experience you'll probably have problems running two
>> monitors at full resolution and refresh rate over a single USB connection.
>> There just isn't enough bandwidth. My tests were pre-USB3, however, so if
>> you can get USB3 then YMMV. Anyway, the detailed specs for the USB docking
>> station should state what resolution and refresh rates the video output
>> can
>> drive so make sure you check that. Also, because you've already got one
>> HDMI
>> port on your laptop, in theory you only need to drive one monitor from
>> USB.
>> That should be possible. Linux drivers could also be an issue. I would
>> recommend buying a device from a reputable source that allows returns if
>> it
>> doesn't work.
>>
>> I've never come across a dual-HDMI cable. It sounds dodgy.
>>
>> Shane.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>> I've seen people have very good luck with Matrox devices which emulate one
>> VERY wide screen, and in fact split that into two outputs. Think the one I
>> saw was used with two projectors, so emulated 8x3 to the PC, but I've seen
>> similar for 16x9 duals (32x9)...
>>
>> They plug into your display output and tell the computer they're one
>> display
>> device, but then separate it, so you just need to make sure whatever
>> you're
>> displaying will then work with a single (or half) a screen.
>>
>> Does the Inspiron not work with a standard Dell port replicator? Those
>> have
>> twin display outputs usually...
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
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>> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 15:02:53 +0100
>> From: <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk>
>> To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> OK,
>>
>>
>>
>> So unless you get a HDMI to VGA adaptor, the dual head unit I?m thinking
>> of isn?t going to work (it won?t take an HDMI input). However, you?d be
>> okay with the TripleHead2Go device as that?ll allow a drive from DVI (and
>> DVI to HDMI cables/adaptors are fairly common)?
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.matrox.com/graphics/de/products/gxm/
>>
>>
>>
>> There?s where you?ll find all the info about the different models (It?s
>> linking to the German site, don?t ask why, but when I browsed it, it was in
>> English anyway)?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> From: John [mailto:john@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk]
>> Sent: 26 May 2014 14:56
>> To: 'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'
>> Subject: RE: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Amias,
>>
>>
>>
>> I wasn?t talking about the card slot ? the Matrox device I was talking
>> about plugs into your video port (HDMI or otherwise), and fools the VGA
>> card into believing it?s a widescreen monitor, when in fact it?s a pair of
>> outputs.
>>
>>
>>
>> I?ll see if I can find a link for you?
>>
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:
>> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk> [mailto:
>> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Amias Channer
>> Sent: 25 May 2014 13:07
>> To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
>> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello john,
>>
>> No it doesn't have port replication or a card slot , just hdmi 1.4 and
>> usb 3 , I think the I tel chipset does that Intel wireless video thing but
>> I've never seen anything to receive it. I'd prefer to have a single
>> connection if possible.
>>
>> The Dell inspiron 7737 runs ubuntu 14.04 really well and I'd recommend it
>> for linux use.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Amias
>>
>> On 25 May 2014 10:52, <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk <mailto:
>> bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk> > wrote:
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:
>> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk>
>> [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:
>> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk> ] On Behalf Of Shane McEwan
>> Sent: 25 May 2014 10:28
>> To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>>
>> On 24/05/14 20:48, Amias Channer wrote:
>> > I have a pair of LG 24 inch LCD IPS panels (VGA/DVI/HDMI) that i want
>> > to use with my dell inspiron 7737 which has usb and hdmi. I'm running
>> > ubuntu 14.04.
>> >
>> > As i understand it my options are a usb 3.0 docking station thing with
>> > dual hdmi or some kind of cable with a lump that combines two hdmi
>> > screens to display one hdmi output.
>>
>> In my, limited, experience you'll probably have problems running two
>> monitors at full resolution and refresh rate over a single USB connection.
>> There just isn't enough bandwidth. My tests were pre-USB3, however, so if
>> you can get USB3 then YMMV. Anyway, the detailed specs for the USB docking
>> station should state what resolution and refresh rates the video output
>> can
>> drive so make sure you check that. Also, because you've already got one
>> HDMI
>> port on your laptop, in theory you only need to drive one monitor from
>> USB.
>> That should be possible. Linux drivers could also be an issue. I would
>> recommend buying a device from a reputable source that allows returns if
>> it
>> doesn't work.
>>
>> I've never come across a dual-HDMI cable. It sounds dodgy.
>>
>> Shane.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>> I've seen people have very good luck with Matrox devices which emulate one
>> VERY wide screen, and in fact split that into two outputs. Think the one I
>> saw was used with two projectors, so emulated 8x3 to the PC, but I've seen
>> similar for 16x9 duals (32x9)...
>>
>> They plug into your display output and tell the computer they're one
>> display
>> device, but then separate it, so you just need to make sure whatever
>> you're
>> displaying will then work with a single (or half) a screen.
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>> Does the Inspiron not work with a standard Dell port replicator? Those
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>> twin display outputs usually...
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Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 16:43:13 +0100
From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
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Hello Ron,
That duplicates the hdmi to two screens afaict , I want two independent
screens .
Thanks for the suggestion though.
Toodle-pip
Amias
On 29 May 2014 10:15, "Ron Young" <ronyoung2011@gmail.com> wrote:
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>
> Hi I have found an ad from Maplins for a HDMI splitter Code N08GF ?39.95
> there is a spec on this product it's external so will connect to anything.
> I have no experience of this product I just noticed it whilst surfing their
> site.I hope it works ok.
>
>
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>> 1. help (Dez Futak)
>> 2. Re: Multiple displays for my laptop
>> (bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk)
>> 3. Re: Multiple displays for my laptop
>> (bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk)
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 13:44:12 +0100
>> From: Dez Futak <dez.futak@bcisgnet.co.uk>
>> To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
>> Subject: [bristol] help
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>> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 14:55:34 +0100
>> From: <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk>
>> To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> Hi Amias,
>>
>>
>>
>> I wasn?t talking about the card slot ? the Matrox device I was talking
>> about plugs into your video port (HDMI or otherwise), and fools the VGA
>> card into believing it?s a widescreen monitor, when in fact it?s a pair of
>> outputs.
>>
>>
>>
>> I?ll see if I can find a link for you?
>>
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:
>> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Amias Channer
>> Sent: 25 May 2014 13:07
>> To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
>> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello john,
>>
>> No it doesn't have port replication or a card slot , just hdmi 1.4 and
>> usb 3 , I think the I tel chipset does that Intel wireless video thing but
>> I've never seen anything to receive it. I'd prefer to have a single
>> connection if possible.
>>
>> The Dell inspiron 7737 runs ubuntu 14.04 really well and I'd recommend it
>> for linux use.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Amias
>>
>> On 25 May 2014 10:52, <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk <mailto:
>> bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk> > wrote:
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:
>> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk>
>> [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:
>> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk> ] On Behalf Of Shane McEwan
>> Sent: 25 May 2014 10:28
>> To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>>
>> On 24/05/14 20:48, Amias Channer wrote:
>> > I have a pair of LG 24 inch LCD IPS panels (VGA/DVI/HDMI) that i want
>> > to use with my dell inspiron 7737 which has usb and hdmi. I'm running
>> > ubuntu 14.04.
>> >
>> > As i understand it my options are a usb 3.0 docking station thing with
>> > dual hdmi or some kind of cable with a lump that combines two hdmi
>> > screens to display one hdmi output.
>>
>> In my, limited, experience you'll probably have problems running two
>> monitors at full resolution and refresh rate over a single USB connection.
>> There just isn't enough bandwidth. My tests were pre-USB3, however, so if
>> you can get USB3 then YMMV. Anyway, the detailed specs for the USB docking
>> station should state what resolution and refresh rates the video output
>> can
>> drive so make sure you check that. Also, because you've already got one
>> HDMI
>> port on your laptop, in theory you only need to drive one monitor from
>> USB.
>> That should be possible. Linux drivers could also be an issue. I would
>> recommend buying a device from a reputable source that allows returns if
>> it
>> doesn't work.
>>
>> I've never come across a dual-HDMI cable. It sounds dodgy.
>>
>> Shane.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>> I've seen people have very good luck with Matrox devices which emulate one
>> VERY wide screen, and in fact split that into two outputs. Think the one I
>> saw was used with two projectors, so emulated 8x3 to the PC, but I've seen
>> similar for 16x9 duals (32x9)...
>>
>> They plug into your display output and tell the computer they're one
>> display
>> device, but then separate it, so you just need to make sure whatever
>> you're
>> displaying will then work with a single (or half) a screen.
>>
>> Does the Inspiron not work with a standard Dell port replicator? Those
>> have
>> twin display outputs usually...
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 15:02:53 +0100
>> From: <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk>
>> To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>> Message-ID:
>> <027301cf78eb$3090fe10$91b2fa30$@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> OK,
>>
>>
>>
>> So unless you get a HDMI to VGA adaptor, the dual head unit I?m thinking
>> of isn?t going to work (it won?t take an HDMI input). However, you?d be
>> okay with the TripleHead2Go device as that?ll allow a drive from DVI (and
>> DVI to HDMI cables/adaptors are fairly common)?
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.matrox.com/graphics/de/products/gxm/
>>
>>
>>
>> There?s where you?ll find all the info about the different models (It?s
>> linking to the German site, don?t ask why, but when I browsed it, it was in
>> English anyway)?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> From: John [mailto:john@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk]
>> Sent: 26 May 2014 14:56
>> To: 'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'
>> Subject: RE: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Amias,
>>
>>
>>
>> I wasn?t talking about the card slot ? the Matrox device I was talking
>> about plugs into your video port (HDMI or otherwise), and fools the VGA
>> card into believing it?s a widescreen monitor, when in fact it?s a pair of
>> outputs.
>>
>>
>>
>> I?ll see if I can find a link for you?
>>
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:
>> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk> [mailto:
>> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Amias Channer
>> Sent: 25 May 2014 13:07
>> To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
>> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello john,
>>
>> No it doesn't have port replication or a card slot , just hdmi 1.4 and
>> usb 3 , I think the I tel chipset does that Intel wireless video thing but
>> I've never seen anything to receive it. I'd prefer to have a single
>> connection if possible.
>>
>> The Dell inspiron 7737 runs ubuntu 14.04 really well and I'd recommend it
>> for linux use.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Amias
>>
>> On 25 May 2014 10:52, <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk <mailto:
>> bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk> > wrote:
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:
>> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk>
>> [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:
>> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk> ] On Behalf Of Shane McEwan
>> Sent: 25 May 2014 10:28
>> To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>>
>> On 24/05/14 20:48, Amias Channer wrote:
>> > I have a pair of LG 24 inch LCD IPS panels (VGA/DVI/HDMI) that i want
>> > to use with my dell inspiron 7737 which has usb and hdmi. I'm running
>> > ubuntu 14.04.
>> >
>> > As i understand it my options are a usb 3.0 docking station thing with
>> > dual hdmi or some kind of cable with a lump that combines two hdmi
>> > screens to display one hdmi output.
>>
>> In my, limited, experience you'll probably have problems running two
>> monitors at full resolution and refresh rate over a single USB connection.
>> There just isn't enough bandwidth. My tests were pre-USB3, however, so if
>> you can get USB3 then YMMV. Anyway, the detailed specs for the USB docking
>> station should state what resolution and refresh rates the video output
>> can
>> drive so make sure you check that. Also, because you've already got one
>> HDMI
>> port on your laptop, in theory you only need to drive one monitor from
>> USB.
>> That should be possible. Linux drivers could also be an issue. I would
>> recommend buying a device from a reputable source that allows returns if
>> it
>> doesn't work.
>>
>> I've never come across a dual-HDMI cable. It sounds dodgy.
>>
>> Shane.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>> I've seen people have very good luck with Matrox devices which emulate one
>> VERY wide screen, and in fact split that into two outputs. Think the one I
>> saw was used with two projectors, so emulated 8x3 to the PC, but I've seen
>> similar for 16x9 duals (32x9)...
>>
>> They plug into your display output and tell the computer they're one
>> display
>> device, but then separate it, so you just need to make sure whatever
>> you're
>> displaying will then work with a single (or half) a screen.
>>
>> Does the Inspiron not work with a standard Dell port replicator? Those
>> have
>> twin display outputs usually...
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 10:35:37 +0100
From: Shane McEwan <shane@mcewan.id.au>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
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On 29/05/14 10:13, Ron Young wrote:
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>
> Hi I have found an ad from Maplins for a HDMI splitter Code N08GF ?39.95
> there is a spec on this product it's external so will connect to
> anything. I have no experience of this product I just noticed it whilst
> surfing their site.I hope it works ok.
That device simply replicates a single HDMI input into two separate
outputs. So it's only useful if you want the same image on two monitors. :-(
Shane.
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On 29/05/14 10:13, Ron Young wrote:
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>
> Hi I have found an ad from Maplins for a HDMI splitter Code N08GF ?39.95
> there is a spec on this product it's external so will connect to
> anything. I have no experience of this product I just noticed it whilst
> surfing their site.I hope it works ok.
That device simply replicates a single HDMI input into two separate
outputs. So it's only useful if you want the same image on two monitors. :-(
Shane.
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Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 18:19:02 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Easy Cap (stk 1160) query
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Hi,
As I have a bit of time to do laborious things, I decided to have
another look at converting VHS tapes!
I did have this all working about a year ago but am now having problems
gettin the video/sound onto vlc.
I think H/W and drivers are OK, but before looking further into the
problem, could someone confirm this is so?
Attached are a couple of outputs (fc18) that I assume are OK!
Thanks
--
Peter H
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snd_page_alloc 13852 2 snd_pcm,snd_hda_intel
snd_timer 23742 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd 59125 22 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_usb_audio,snd_ac97_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,stk1160,snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_device
soundcore 14123 1 snd
vhost_net 17785 0
tun 22422 1 vhost_net
vhost 26167 1 vhost_net
macvtap 17749 1 vhost_net
macvlan 18388 1 macvtap
kvm_intel 132200 0
kvm 363489 1 kvm_intel
uinput 17254 0
vboxnetadp 25636 0
vboxnetflt 27291 0
vboxdrv 268314 2 vboxnetadp,vboxnetflt
nfsd 247663 13
auth_rpcgss 48205 1 nfsd
nfs_acl 12653 1 nfsd
lockd 78241 1 nfsd
binfmt_misc 13111 1
nouveau 843374 3
mxm_wmi 12761 1 nouveau
wmi 18273 2 mxm_wmi,nouveau
video 18595 1 nouveau
i2c_algo_bit 13065 1 nouveau
drm_kms_helper 44905 1 nouveau
ttm 68319 1 nouveau
r8169 61830 0
drm 230091 5 ttm,drm_kms_helper,nouveau
ata_generic 12790 0
mii 13311 1 r8169
pata_acpi 12886 0
i2c_core 28500 19 drm,i2c_i801,dib0070,dib0090,dib8000,saa7115,dvb_usb,drm_kms_helper,i2c_algo_bit,stk1160,dvb_usb_dib0700,mt2060,v4l2_common,nouveau,dib3000mc,dibx000_common,videodev,dib7000m,dib7000p
sunrpc 221549 21 nfsd,auth_rpcgss,lockd,nfs_acl
[peter@study ~]$
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[ 387.407010] usb 1-2: new high-speed USB device number 4 using ehci-pci
[ 387.521795] usb 1-2: New USB device found, idVendor=05e1, idProduct=0408
[ 387.521798] usb 1-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
[ 387.521800] usb 1-2: Product: USB 2.0 Video Capture Controller
[ 387.521802] usb 1-2: Manufacturer: Syntek Semiconductor
[ 387.522052] usb 1-2: New device Syntek Semiconductor USB 2.0 Video Capture Controller @ 480 Mbps (05e1:0408, interface 0, class 0)
[ 387.522055] usb 1-2: video interface 0 found
[ 388.005278] saa7115 14-0025: saa7113 found @ 0x4a (stk1160)
[ 389.284110] stk1160: driver ver 0.9.5 successfully loaded
[ 389.443973] stk1160: registers to NTSC like standard
[ 389.591123] stk1160 1-2:1.0: V4L2 device registered as video0
[peter@study ~]$
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 10:13:44 +0100
From: Ron Young <ronyoung2011@gmail.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Bristol Digest, Vol 552, Issue 2
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Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
Hi I have found an ad from Maplins for a HDMI splitter Code N08GF ?39.95
there is a spec on this product it's external so will connect to anything.
I have no experience of this product I just noticed it whilst surfing their
site.I hope it works ok.
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 13:44:12 +0100
> From: Dez Futak <dez.futak@bcisgnet.co.uk>
> To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
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> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 14:55:34 +0100
> From: <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk>
> To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
> Message-ID:
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> Hi Amias,
>
>
>
> I wasn?t talking about the card slot ? the Matrox device I was talking
> about plugs into your video port (HDMI or otherwise), and fools the VGA
> card into believing it?s a widescreen monitor, when in fact it?s a pair of
> outputs.
>
>
>
> I?ll see if I can find a link for you?
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:
> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Amias Channer
> Sent: 25 May 2014 13:07
> To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>
>
>
> Hello john,
>
> No it doesn't have port replication or a card slot , just hdmi 1.4 and
> usb 3 , I think the I tel chipset does that Intel wireless video thing but
> I've never seen anything to receive it. I'd prefer to have a single
> connection if possible.
>
> The Dell inspiron 7737 runs ubuntu 14.04 really well and I'd recommend it
> for linux use.
>
> Cheers
> Amias
>
> On 25 May 2014 10:52, <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk <mailto:
> bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk> > wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:
> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:
> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk> ] On Behalf Of Shane McEwan
> Sent: 25 May 2014 10:28
> To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>
> On 24/05/14 20:48, Amias Channer wrote:
> > I have a pair of LG 24 inch LCD IPS panels (VGA/DVI/HDMI) that i want
> > to use with my dell inspiron 7737 which has usb and hdmi. I'm running
> > ubuntu 14.04.
> >
> > As i understand it my options are a usb 3.0 docking station thing with
> > dual hdmi or some kind of cable with a lump that combines two hdmi
> > screens to display one hdmi output.
>
> In my, limited, experience you'll probably have problems running two
> monitors at full resolution and refresh rate over a single USB connection.
> There just isn't enough bandwidth. My tests were pre-USB3, however, so if
> you can get USB3 then YMMV. Anyway, the detailed specs for the USB docking
> station should state what resolution and refresh rates the video output can
> drive so make sure you check that. Also, because you've already got one
> HDMI
> port on your laptop, in theory you only need to drive one monitor from USB.
> That should be possible. Linux drivers could also be an issue. I would
> recommend buying a device from a reputable source that allows returns if it
> doesn't work.
>
> I've never come across a dual-HDMI cable. It sounds dodgy.
>
> Shane.
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
> I've seen people have very good luck with Matrox devices which emulate one
> VERY wide screen, and in fact split that into two outputs. Think the one I
> saw was used with two projectors, so emulated 8x3 to the PC, but I've seen
> similar for 16x9 duals (32x9)...
>
> They plug into your display output and tell the computer they're one
> display
> device, but then separate it, so you just need to make sure whatever you're
> displaying will then work with a single (or half) a screen.
>
> Does the Inspiron not work with a standard Dell port replicator? Those have
> twin display outputs usually...
>
> John
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 15:02:53 +0100
> From: <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk>
> To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
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>
> OK,
>
>
>
> So unless you get a HDMI to VGA adaptor, the dual head unit I?m thinking
> of isn?t going to work (it won?t take an HDMI input). However, you?d be
> okay with the TripleHead2Go device as that?ll allow a drive from DVI (and
> DVI to HDMI cables/adaptors are fairly common)?
>
>
>
> http://www.matrox.com/graphics/de/products/gxm/
>
>
>
> There?s where you?ll find all the info about the different models (It?s
> linking to the German site, don?t ask why, but when I browsed it, it was in
> English anyway)?
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> From: John [mailto:john@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk]
> Sent: 26 May 2014 14:56
> To: 'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'
> Subject: RE: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>
>
>
> Hi Amias,
>
>
>
> I wasn?t talking about the card slot ? the Matrox device I was talking
> about plugs into your video port (HDMI or otherwise), and fools the VGA
> card into believing it?s a widescreen monitor, when in fact it?s a pair of
> outputs.
>
>
>
> I?ll see if I can find a link for you?
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:
> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk> [mailto:
> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Amias Channer
> Sent: 25 May 2014 13:07
> To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>
>
>
> Hello john,
>
> No it doesn't have port replication or a card slot , just hdmi 1.4 and
> usb 3 , I think the I tel chipset does that Intel wireless video thing but
> I've never seen anything to receive it. I'd prefer to have a single
> connection if possible.
>
> The Dell inspiron 7737 runs ubuntu 14.04 really well and I'd recommend it
> for linux use.
>
> Cheers
> Amias
>
> On 25 May 2014 10:52, <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk <mailto:
> bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk> > wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:
> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:
> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk> ] On Behalf Of Shane McEwan
> Sent: 25 May 2014 10:28
> To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>
> On 24/05/14 20:48, Amias Channer wrote:
> > I have a pair of LG 24 inch LCD IPS panels (VGA/DVI/HDMI) that i want
> > to use with my dell inspiron 7737 which has usb and hdmi. I'm running
> > ubuntu 14.04.
> >
> > As i understand it my options are a usb 3.0 docking station thing with
> > dual hdmi or some kind of cable with a lump that combines two hdmi
> > screens to display one hdmi output.
>
> In my, limited, experience you'll probably have problems running two
> monitors at full resolution and refresh rate over a single USB connection.
> There just isn't enough bandwidth. My tests were pre-USB3, however, so if
> you can get USB3 then YMMV. Anyway, the detailed specs for the USB docking
> station should state what resolution and refresh rates the video output can
> drive so make sure you check that. Also, because you've already got one
> HDMI
> port on your laptop, in theory you only need to drive one monitor from USB.
> That should be possible. Linux drivers could also be an issue. I would
> recommend buying a device from a reputable source that allows returns if it
> doesn't work.
>
> I've never come across a dual-HDMI cable. It sounds dodgy.
>
> Shane.
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
> I've seen people have very good luck with Matrox devices which emulate one
> VERY wide screen, and in fact split that into two outputs. Think the one I
> saw was used with two projectors, so emulated 8x3 to the PC, but I've seen
> similar for 16x9 duals (32x9)...
>
> They plug into your display output and tell the computer they're one
> display
> device, but then separate it, so you just need to make sure whatever you're
> displaying will then work with a single (or half) a screen.
>
> Does the Inspiron not work with a standard Dell port replicator? Those have
> twin display outputs usually...
>
> John
>
>
>
>
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 18:19:02 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Easy Cap (stk 1160) query
Message-ID: <53861A86.30209@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
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Hi,
As I have a bit of time to do laborious things, I decided to have
another look at converting VHS tapes!
I did have this all working about a year ago but am now having problems
gettin the video/sound onto vlc.
I think H/W and drivers are OK, but before looking further into the
problem, could someone confirm this is so?
Attached are a couple of outputs (fc18) that I assume are OK!
Thanks
--
Peter H
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lsmod
Module Size Used by
fuse 80268 3
nf_conntrack_netbios_ns 12585 0
nf_conntrack_broadcast 12487 1 nf_conntrack_netbios_ns
ipt_MASQUERADE 12760 1
ip6t_REJECT 12826 2
xt_conntrack 12664 48
ebtable_nat 12695 0
ebtable_broute 12635 0
bridge 94466 1 ebtable_broute
stp 12756 1 bridge
llc 13733 2 stp,bridge
ebtable_filter 12715 0
ebtables 21315 3 ebtable_broute,ebtable_nat,ebtable_filter
ip6table_nat 12871 1
nf_conntrack_ipv6 18282 27
nf_defrag_ipv6 26022 1 nf_conntrack_ipv6
nf_nat_ipv6 13053 1 ip6table_nat
ip6table_mangle 12620 1
ip6table_security 12630 1
ip6table_raw 12603 1
ip6table_filter 12711 1
ip6_tables 17634 5 ip6table_filter,ip6table_mangle,ip6table_security,ip6table_nat,ip6table_raw
iptable_nat 12867 1
nf_conntrack_ipv4 14320 23
nf_defrag_ipv4 12601 1 nf_conntrack_ipv4
nf_nat_ipv4 13039 1 iptable_nat
nf_nat 24670 5 ipt_MASQUERADE,nf_nat_ipv4,nf_nat_ipv6,ip6table_nat,iptable_nat
nf_conntrack 74073 11 nf_conntrack_netbios_ns,ipt_MASQUERADE,nf_nat,nf_nat_ipv4,nf_nat_ipv6,xt_conntrack,ip6table_nat,nf_conntrack_broadcast,iptable_nat,nf_conntrack_ipv4,nf_conntrack_ipv6
iptable_mangle 12615 1
iptable_security 12625 1
iptable_raw 12598 1
be2iscsi 92760 0
iscsi_boot_sysfs 15121 1 be2iscsi
bnx2i 49542 0
cnic 57673 1 bnx2i
uio 14456 1 cnic
cxgb4i 32176 0
cxgb4 123900 1 cxgb4i
cxgb3i 28097 0
cxgb3 130963 1 cxgb3i
mdio 13243 1 cxgb3
libcxgbi 54592 2 cxgb3i,cxgb4i
ib_iser 36811 0
rdma_cm 41367 1 ib_iser
ib_addr 13652 1 rdma_cm
iw_cm 13752 1 rdma_cm
ib_cm 36712 1 rdma_cm
ib_sa 24112 2 rdma_cm,ib_cm
ib_mad 37174 2 ib_cm,ib_sa
ib_core 62121 6 rdma_cm,ib_cm,ib_sa,iw_cm,ib_mad,ib_iser
iscsi_tcp 18015 0
libiscsi_tcp 19467 4 cxgb3i,cxgb4i,iscsi_tcp,libcxgbi
libiscsi 44922 8 libiscsi_tcp,bnx2i,cxgb3i,cxgb4i,be2iscsi,iscsi_tcp,ib_iser,libcxgbi
scsi_transport_iscsi 62709 8 bnx2i,be2iscsi,iscsi_tcp,ib_iser,libcxgbi,libiscsi
snd_usb_audio 123472 1
snd_usbmidi_lib 24065 1 snd_usb_audio
snd_rawmidi 24537 1 snd_usbmidi_lib
rc_dib0700_rc5 12460 0
mt2060 12942 2
saa7115 22463 1
stk1160 27456 0
snd_ac97_codec 104853 1 stk1160
ac97_bus 12602 1 snd_ac97_codec
videobuf2_vmalloc 13003 1 stk1160
videobuf2_memops 13001 1 videobuf2_vmalloc
videobuf2_core 37715 1 stk1160
v4l2_common 14661 2 saa7115,stk1160
videodev 103115 4 saa7115,stk1160,v4l2_common,videobuf2_core
coretemp 13195 0
iTCO_wdt 13256 0
iTCO_vendor_support 13243 1 iTCO_wdt
media 19980 1 videodev
dvb_usb_dib0700 101745 0
dib8000 51096 1 dvb_usb_dib0700
dib7000m 22388 1 dvb_usb_dib0700
dib0090 32528 1 dvb_usb_dib0700
dib0070 17680 1 dvb_usb_dib0700
dib7000p 32785 1 dvb_usb_dib0700
dib3000mc 22498 3 dvb_usb_dib0700
dibx000_common 18085 5 dib8000,dvb_usb_dib0700,dib3000mc,dib7000m,dib7000p
dvb_usb 23262 1 dvb_usb_dib0700
dvb_core 99044 3 dib8000,dvb_usb,dib7000p
rc_core 25504 4 dvb_usb,dvb_usb_dib0700,rc_dib0700_rc5
microcode 18826 0
serio_raw 13189 0
i2c_i801 17783 0
lpc_ich 16864 0
mfd_core 13022 1 lpc_ich
snd_hda_codec_hdmi 40373 4
mperf 12551 0
snd_hda_codec_realtek 45563 1
snd_hda_intel 42642 3
snd_hda_codec 155602 3 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep 13232 2 snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_codec
snd_seq 54699 0
snd_seq_device 13824 2 snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
snd_pcm 81889 5 snd_usb_audio,snd_ac97_codec,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel
snd_page_alloc 13852 2 snd_pcm,snd_hda_intel
snd_timer 23742 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd 59125 22 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_usb_audio,snd_ac97_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,stk1160,snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_device
soundcore 14123 1 snd
vhost_net 17785 0
tun 22422 1 vhost_net
vhost 26167 1 vhost_net
macvtap 17749 1 vhost_net
macvlan 18388 1 macvtap
kvm_intel 132200 0
kvm 363489 1 kvm_intel
uinput 17254 0
vboxnetadp 25636 0
vboxnetflt 27291 0
vboxdrv 268314 2 vboxnetadp,vboxnetflt
nfsd 247663 13
auth_rpcgss 48205 1 nfsd
nfs_acl 12653 1 nfsd
lockd 78241 1 nfsd
binfmt_misc 13111 1
nouveau 843374 3
mxm_wmi 12761 1 nouveau
wmi 18273 2 mxm_wmi,nouveau
video 18595 1 nouveau
i2c_algo_bit 13065 1 nouveau
drm_kms_helper 44905 1 nouveau
ttm 68319 1 nouveau
r8169 61830 0
drm 230091 5 ttm,drm_kms_helper,nouveau
ata_generic 12790 0
mii 13311 1 r8169
pata_acpi 12886 0
i2c_core 28500 19 drm,i2c_i801,dib0070,dib0090,dib8000,saa7115,dvb_usb,drm_kms_helper,i2c_algo_bit,stk1160,dvb_usb_dib0700,mt2060,v4l2_common,nouveau,dib3000mc,dibx000_common,videodev,dib7000m,dib7000p
sunrpc 221549 21 nfsd,auth_rpcgss,lockd,nfs_acl
[peter@study ~]$
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[ 387.407010] usb 1-2: new high-speed USB device number 4 using ehci-pci
[ 387.521795] usb 1-2: New USB device found, idVendor=05e1, idProduct=0408
[ 387.521798] usb 1-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
[ 387.521800] usb 1-2: Product: USB 2.0 Video Capture Controller
[ 387.521802] usb 1-2: Manufacturer: Syntek Semiconductor
[ 387.522052] usb 1-2: New device Syntek Semiconductor USB 2.0 Video Capture Controller @ 480 Mbps (05e1:0408, interface 0, class 0)
[ 387.522055] usb 1-2: video interface 0 found
[ 388.005278] saa7115 14-0025: saa7113 found @ 0x4a (stk1160)
[ 389.284110] stk1160: driver ver 0.9.5 successfully loaded
[ 389.443973] stk1160: registers to NTSC like standard
[ 389.591123] stk1160 1-2:1.0: V4L2 device registered as video0
[peter@study ~]$
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 10:13:44 +0100
From: Ron Young <ronyoung2011@gmail.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Bristol Digest, Vol 552, Issue 2
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Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
Hi I have found an ad from Maplins for a HDMI splitter Code N08GF ?39.95
there is a spec on this product it's external so will connect to anything.
I have no experience of this product I just noticed it whilst surfing their
site.I hope it works ok.
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> Hi Amias,
>
>
>
> I wasn?t talking about the card slot ? the Matrox device I was talking
> about plugs into your video port (HDMI or otherwise), and fools the VGA
> card into believing it?s a widescreen monitor, when in fact it?s a pair of
> outputs.
>
>
>
> I?ll see if I can find a link for you?
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:
> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Amias Channer
> Sent: 25 May 2014 13:07
> To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>
>
>
> Hello john,
>
> No it doesn't have port replication or a card slot , just hdmi 1.4 and
> usb 3 , I think the I tel chipset does that Intel wireless video thing but
> I've never seen anything to receive it. I'd prefer to have a single
> connection if possible.
>
> The Dell inspiron 7737 runs ubuntu 14.04 really well and I'd recommend it
> for linux use.
>
> Cheers
> Amias
>
> On 25 May 2014 10:52, <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk <mailto:
> bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk> > wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:
> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:
> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk> ] On Behalf Of Shane McEwan
> Sent: 25 May 2014 10:28
> To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>
> On 24/05/14 20:48, Amias Channer wrote:
> > I have a pair of LG 24 inch LCD IPS panels (VGA/DVI/HDMI) that i want
> > to use with my dell inspiron 7737 which has usb and hdmi. I'm running
> > ubuntu 14.04.
> >
> > As i understand it my options are a usb 3.0 docking station thing with
> > dual hdmi or some kind of cable with a lump that combines two hdmi
> > screens to display one hdmi output.
>
> In my, limited, experience you'll probably have problems running two
> monitors at full resolution and refresh rate over a single USB connection.
> There just isn't enough bandwidth. My tests were pre-USB3, however, so if
> you can get USB3 then YMMV. Anyway, the detailed specs for the USB docking
> station should state what resolution and refresh rates the video output can
> drive so make sure you check that. Also, because you've already got one
> HDMI
> port on your laptop, in theory you only need to drive one monitor from USB.
> That should be possible. Linux drivers could also be an issue. I would
> recommend buying a device from a reputable source that allows returns if it
> doesn't work.
>
> I've never come across a dual-HDMI cable. It sounds dodgy.
>
> Shane.
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
> I've seen people have very good luck with Matrox devices which emulate one
> VERY wide screen, and in fact split that into two outputs. Think the one I
> saw was used with two projectors, so emulated 8x3 to the PC, but I've seen
> similar for 16x9 duals (32x9)...
>
> They plug into your display output and tell the computer they're one
> display
> device, but then separate it, so you just need to make sure whatever you're
> displaying will then work with a single (or half) a screen.
>
> Does the Inspiron not work with a standard Dell port replicator? Those have
> twin display outputs usually...
>
> John
>
>
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> OK,
>
>
>
> So unless you get a HDMI to VGA adaptor, the dual head unit I?m thinking
> of isn?t going to work (it won?t take an HDMI input). However, you?d be
> okay with the TripleHead2Go device as that?ll allow a drive from DVI (and
> DVI to HDMI cables/adaptors are fairly common)?
>
>
>
> http://www.matrox.com/graphics/de/products/gxm/
>
>
>
> There?s where you?ll find all the info about the different models (It?s
> linking to the German site, don?t ask why, but when I browsed it, it was in
> English anyway)?
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> From: John [mailto:john@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk]
> Sent: 26 May 2014 14:56
> To: 'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'
> Subject: RE: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>
>
>
> Hi Amias,
>
>
>
> I wasn?t talking about the card slot ? the Matrox device I was talking
> about plugs into your video port (HDMI or otherwise), and fools the VGA
> card into believing it?s a widescreen monitor, when in fact it?s a pair of
> outputs.
>
>
>
> I?ll see if I can find a link for you?
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:
> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk> [mailto:
> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Amias Channer
> Sent: 25 May 2014 13:07
> To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>
>
>
> Hello john,
>
> No it doesn't have port replication or a card slot , just hdmi 1.4 and
> usb 3 , I think the I tel chipset does that Intel wireless video thing but
> I've never seen anything to receive it. I'd prefer to have a single
> connection if possible.
>
> The Dell inspiron 7737 runs ubuntu 14.04 really well and I'd recommend it
> for linux use.
>
> Cheers
> Amias
>
> On 25 May 2014 10:52, <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk <mailto:
> bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk> > wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:
> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:
> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk> ] On Behalf Of Shane McEwan
> Sent: 25 May 2014 10:28
> To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>
> On 24/05/14 20:48, Amias Channer wrote:
> > I have a pair of LG 24 inch LCD IPS panels (VGA/DVI/HDMI) that i want
> > to use with my dell inspiron 7737 which has usb and hdmi. I'm running
> > ubuntu 14.04.
> >
> > As i understand it my options are a usb 3.0 docking station thing with
> > dual hdmi or some kind of cable with a lump that combines two hdmi
> > screens to display one hdmi output.
>
> In my, limited, experience you'll probably have problems running two
> monitors at full resolution and refresh rate over a single USB connection.
> There just isn't enough bandwidth. My tests were pre-USB3, however, so if
> you can get USB3 then YMMV. Anyway, the detailed specs for the USB docking
> station should state what resolution and refresh rates the video output can
> drive so make sure you check that. Also, because you've already got one
> HDMI
> port on your laptop, in theory you only need to drive one monitor from USB.
> That should be possible. Linux drivers could also be an issue. I would
> recommend buying a device from a reputable source that allows returns if it
> doesn't work.
>
> I've never come across a dual-HDMI cable. It sounds dodgy.
>
> Shane.
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
> I've seen people have very good luck with Matrox devices which emulate one
> VERY wide screen, and in fact split that into two outputs. Think the one I
> saw was used with two projectors, so emulated 8x3 to the PC, but I've seen
> similar for 16x9 duals (32x9)...
>
> They plug into your display output and tell the computer they're one
> display
> device, but then separate it, so you just need to make sure whatever you're
> displaying will then work with a single (or half) a screen.
>
> Does the Inspiron not work with a standard Dell port replicator? Those have
> twin display outputs usually...
>
> John
>
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 12:08:44 +0100
From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
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Hello john,
That looks really good but I'd doubt it would handle more than one
1920x1080 from one vga but the dvi option looks good . There are some on
eBay I might try that are reported to work with linux . Thanks loads .
Toodle-pip
Amias
Thanks
On 26 May 2014 14:56, <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi Amias,
>
>
>
> I wasn?t talking about the card slot ? the Matrox device I was talking
> about plugs into your video port (HDMI or otherwise), and fools the VGA
> card into believing it?s a widescreen monitor, when in fact it?s a pair of
> outputs.
>
>
>
> I?ll see if I can find a link for you?
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> *From:* bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:
> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] *On Behalf Of *Amias Channer
> *Sent:* 25 May 2014 13:07
> *To:* Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>
>
>
> Hello john,
>
> No it doesn't have port replication or a card slot , just hdmi 1.4 and
> usb 3 , I think the I tel chipset does that Intel wireless video thing but
> I've never seen anything to receive it. I'd prefer to have a single
> connection if possible.
>
> The Dell inspiron 7737 runs ubuntu 14.04 really well and I'd recommend it
> for linux use.
>
> Cheers
> Amias
>
> On 25 May 2014 10:52, <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
> [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Shane McEwan
> Sent: 25 May 2014 10:28
> To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>
> On 24/05/14 20:48, Amias Channer wrote:
> > I have a pair of LG 24 inch LCD IPS panels (VGA/DVI/HDMI) that i want
> > to use with my dell inspiron 7737 which has usb and hdmi. I'm running
> > ubuntu 14.04.
> >
> > As i understand it my options are a usb 3.0 docking station thing with
> > dual hdmi or some kind of cable with a lump that combines two hdmi
> > screens to display one hdmi output.
>
> In my, limited, experience you'll probably have problems running two
> monitors at full resolution and refresh rate over a single USB connection.
> There just isn't enough bandwidth. My tests were pre-USB3, however, so if
> you can get USB3 then YMMV. Anyway, the detailed specs for the USB docking
> station should state what resolution and refresh rates the video output can
> drive so make sure you check that. Also, because you've already got one
> HDMI
> port on your laptop, in theory you only need to drive one monitor from USB.
> That should be possible. Linux drivers could also be an issue. I would
> recommend buying a device from a reputable source that allows returns if it
> doesn't work.
>
> I've never come across a dual-HDMI cable. It sounds dodgy.
>
> Shane.
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
> I've seen people have very good luck with Matrox devices which emulate one
> VERY wide screen, and in fact split that into two outputs. Think the one I
> saw was used with two projectors, so emulated 8x3 to the PC, but I've seen
> similar for 16x9 duals (32x9)...
>
> They plug into your display output and tell the computer they're one
> display
> device, but then separate it, so you just need to make sure whatever you're
> displaying will then work with a single (or half) a screen.
>
> Does the Inspiron not work with a standard Dell port replicator? Those have
> twin display outputs usually...
>
> John
>
>
>
>
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From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] off topic ablton live9 accessability project
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Hello t,
Have you looked at bitwig ? It's a cross platform daw that might be easier
to work with than ableton. It got a good in linux voice
Toodle-pip
Amias
On 27 May 2014 00:38, "trahern culver" <sound.warrior20@gmail.com> wrote:
> hey all, I know this is off topic but I thought this idea may interest
> some of you. I'm looking for a programer to help me build an interface
> that will enable ablton live 9 to work with the jaws for windows screen
> reeder.
>
> i'm willing to pay but the end product i would like to release as freeware.
>
> The screen reeder the programer would be working with is jaws for windows:
>
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/products/fs/JAWS-product-page.asp
>
> the accessibility add on they will be using is hot spot clicker:
>
> http://hotspotclicker.org
>
> and the program they will be helping me to make accessible is alb ton
> live9:
>
> https://www.ableton.com/en/live/new-in-9/
>
> any thoughts comments or input to this project would be most welcome kind
> regards trey.
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Hello john,
That looks really good but I'd doubt it would handle more than one
1920x1080 from one vga but the dvi option looks good . There are some on
eBay I might try that are reported to work with linux . Thanks loads .
Toodle-pip
Amias
Thanks
On 26 May 2014 14:56, <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi Amias,
>
>
>
> I wasn?t talking about the card slot ? the Matrox device I was talking
> about plugs into your video port (HDMI or otherwise), and fools the VGA
> card into believing it?s a widescreen monitor, when in fact it?s a pair of
> outputs.
>
>
>
> I?ll see if I can find a link for you?
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> *From:* bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:
> bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] *On Behalf Of *Amias Channer
> *Sent:* 25 May 2014 13:07
> *To:* Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>
>
>
> Hello john,
>
> No it doesn't have port replication or a card slot , just hdmi 1.4 and
> usb 3 , I think the I tel chipset does that Intel wireless video thing but
> I've never seen anything to receive it. I'd prefer to have a single
> connection if possible.
>
> The Dell inspiron 7737 runs ubuntu 14.04 really well and I'd recommend it
> for linux use.
>
> Cheers
> Amias
>
> On 25 May 2014 10:52, <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
> [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Shane McEwan
> Sent: 25 May 2014 10:28
> To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>
> On 24/05/14 20:48, Amias Channer wrote:
> > I have a pair of LG 24 inch LCD IPS panels (VGA/DVI/HDMI) that i want
> > to use with my dell inspiron 7737 which has usb and hdmi. I'm running
> > ubuntu 14.04.
> >
> > As i understand it my options are a usb 3.0 docking station thing with
> > dual hdmi or some kind of cable with a lump that combines two hdmi
> > screens to display one hdmi output.
>
> In my, limited, experience you'll probably have problems running two
> monitors at full resolution and refresh rate over a single USB connection.
> There just isn't enough bandwidth. My tests were pre-USB3, however, so if
> you can get USB3 then YMMV. Anyway, the detailed specs for the USB docking
> station should state what resolution and refresh rates the video output can
> drive so make sure you check that. Also, because you've already got one
> HDMI
> port on your laptop, in theory you only need to drive one monitor from USB.
> That should be possible. Linux drivers could also be an issue. I would
> recommend buying a device from a reputable source that allows returns if it
> doesn't work.
>
> I've never come across a dual-HDMI cable. It sounds dodgy.
>
> Shane.
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
> I've seen people have very good luck with Matrox devices which emulate one
> VERY wide screen, and in fact split that into two outputs. Think the one I
> saw was used with two projectors, so emulated 8x3 to the PC, but I've seen
> similar for 16x9 duals (32x9)...
>
> They plug into your display output and tell the computer they're one
> display
> device, but then separate it, so you just need to make sure whatever you're
> displaying will then work with a single (or half) a screen.
>
> Does the Inspiron not work with a standard Dell port replicator? Those have
> twin display outputs usually...
>
> John
>
>
>
>
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Hello t,
Have you looked at bitwig ? It's a cross platform daw that might be easier
to work with than ableton. It got a good in linux voice
Toodle-pip
Amias
On 27 May 2014 00:38, "trahern culver" <sound.warrior20@gmail.com> wrote:
> hey all, I know this is off topic but I thought this idea may interest
> some of you. I'm looking for a programer to help me build an interface
> that will enable ablton live 9 to work with the jaws for windows screen
> reeder.
>
> i'm willing to pay but the end product i would like to release as freeware.
>
> The screen reeder the programer would be working with is jaws for windows:
>
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/products/fs/JAWS-product-page.asp
>
> the accessibility add on they will be using is hot spot clicker:
>
> http://hotspotclicker.org
>
> and the program they will be helping me to make accessible is alb ton
> live9:
>
> https://www.ableton.com/en/live/new-in-9/
>
> any thoughts comments or input to this project would be most welcome kind
> regards trey.
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hey all, I know this is off topic but I thought this idea may interest some of you. I'm looking for a programer to help me build an interface that will enable ablton live 9 to work with the jaws for windows screen reeder.
i'm willing to pay but the end product i would like to release as freeware.
The screen reeder the programer would be working with is jaws for windows:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/products/fs/JAWS-product-page.asp
the accessibility add on they will be using is hot spot clicker:
http://hotspotclicker.org
and the program they will be helping me to make accessible is alb ton live9:
https://www.ableton.com/en/live/new-in-9/
any thoughts comments or input to this project would be most welcome kind regards trey.
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 09:32:26 +0100 (BST)
From: D J Stewart <bblug@iridium.org.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
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>
Fascinating. Was that "Help, I don't know how to set my SPF record",
"help, I keep pressing 'send' before I've written my email", or "help, I'm
stuck in a parallel dimension and the only way I can communicate is one
word at a time in the subject of emails"?
(if the latter, try camelCase -- it may be enough to trick the
interdimensional mcguffin)
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hey all, I know this is off topic but I thought this idea may interest some of you. I'm looking for a programer to help me build an interface that will enable ablton live 9 to work with the jaws for windows screen reeder.
i'm willing to pay but the end product i would like to release as freeware.
The screen reeder the programer would be working with is jaws for windows:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/products/fs/JAWS-product-page.asp
the accessibility add on they will be using is hot spot clicker:
http://hotspotclicker.org
and the program they will be helping me to make accessible is alb ton live9:
https://www.ableton.com/en/live/new-in-9/
any thoughts comments or input to this project would be most welcome kind regards trey.
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 09:32:26 +0100 (BST)
From: D J Stewart <bblug@iridium.org.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
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On Mon, 26 May 2014, Dez Futak wrote:
>
Fascinating. Was that "Help, I don't know how to set my SPF record",
"help, I keep pressing 'send' before I've written my email", or "help, I'm
stuck in a parallel dimension and the only way I can communicate is one
word at a time in the subject of emails"?
(if the latter, try camelCase -- it may be enough to trick the
interdimensional mcguffin)
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Hi Amias,
I wasn?t talking about the card slot ? the Matrox device I was talking about plugs into your video port (HDMI or otherwise), and fools the VGA card into believing it?s a widescreen monitor, when in fact it?s a pair of outputs.
I?ll see if I can find a link for you?
John
From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Amias Channer
Sent: 25 May 2014 13:07
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
Hello john,
No it doesn't have port replication or a card slot , just hdmi 1.4 and usb 3 , I think the I tel chipset does that Intel wireless video thing but I've never seen anything to receive it. I'd prefer to have a single connection if possible.
The Dell inspiron 7737 runs ubuntu 14.04 really well and I'd recommend it for linux use.
Cheers
Amias
On 25 May 2014 10:52, <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk <mailto:bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk> > wrote:
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From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk>
[mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk> ] On Behalf Of Shane McEwan
Sent: 25 May 2014 10:28
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
On 24/05/14 20:48, Amias Channer wrote:
> I have a pair of LG 24 inch LCD IPS panels (VGA/DVI/HDMI) that i want
> to use with my dell inspiron 7737 which has usb and hdmi. I'm running
> ubuntu 14.04.
>
> As i understand it my options are a usb 3.0 docking station thing with
> dual hdmi or some kind of cable with a lump that combines two hdmi
> screens to display one hdmi output.
In my, limited, experience you'll probably have problems running two
monitors at full resolution and refresh rate over a single USB connection.
There just isn't enough bandwidth. My tests were pre-USB3, however, so if
you can get USB3 then YMMV. Anyway, the detailed specs for the USB docking
station should state what resolution and refresh rates the video output can
drive so make sure you check that. Also, because you've already got one HDMI
port on your laptop, in theory you only need to drive one monitor from USB.
That should be possible. Linux drivers could also be an issue. I would
recommend buying a device from a reputable source that allows returns if it
doesn't work.
I've never come across a dual-HDMI cable. It sounds dodgy.
Shane.
_______________________________________________
I've seen people have very good luck with Matrox devices which emulate one
VERY wide screen, and in fact split that into two outputs. Think the one I
saw was used with two projectors, so emulated 8x3 to the PC, but I've seen
similar for 16x9 duals (32x9)...
They plug into your display output and tell the computer they're one display
device, but then separate it, so you just need to make sure whatever you're
displaying will then work with a single (or half) a screen.
Does the Inspiron not work with a standard Dell port replicator? Those have
twin display outputs usually...
John
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OK,
So unless you get a HDMI to VGA adaptor, the dual head unit I?m thinking of isn?t going to work (it won?t take an HDMI input). However, you?d be okay with the TripleHead2Go device as that?ll allow a drive from DVI (and DVI to HDMI cables/adaptors are fairly common)?
http://www.matrox.com/graphics/de/products/gxm/
There?s where you?ll find all the info about the different models (It?s linking to the German site, don?t ask why, but when I browsed it, it was in English anyway)?
Cheers,
John
From: John [mailto:john@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk]
Sent: 26 May 2014 14:56
To: 'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'
Subject: RE: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
Hi Amias,
I wasn?t talking about the card slot ? the Matrox device I was talking about plugs into your video port (HDMI or otherwise), and fools the VGA card into believing it?s a widescreen monitor, when in fact it?s a pair of outputs.
I?ll see if I can find a link for you?
John
From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk> [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Amias Channer
Sent: 25 May 2014 13:07
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
Hello john,
No it doesn't have port replication or a card slot , just hdmi 1.4 and usb 3 , I think the I tel chipset does that Intel wireless video thing but I've never seen anything to receive it. I'd prefer to have a single connection if possible.
The Dell inspiron 7737 runs ubuntu 14.04 really well and I'd recommend it for linux use.
Cheers
Amias
On 25 May 2014 10:52, <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk <mailto:bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk> > wrote:
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From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk>
[mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk> ] On Behalf Of Shane McEwan
Sent: 25 May 2014 10:28
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
On 24/05/14 20:48, Amias Channer wrote:
> I have a pair of LG 24 inch LCD IPS panels (VGA/DVI/HDMI) that i want
> to use with my dell inspiron 7737 which has usb and hdmi. I'm running
> ubuntu 14.04.
>
> As i understand it my options are a usb 3.0 docking station thing with
> dual hdmi or some kind of cable with a lump that combines two hdmi
> screens to display one hdmi output.
In my, limited, experience you'll probably have problems running two
monitors at full resolution and refresh rate over a single USB connection.
There just isn't enough bandwidth. My tests were pre-USB3, however, so if
you can get USB3 then YMMV. Anyway, the detailed specs for the USB docking
station should state what resolution and refresh rates the video output can
drive so make sure you check that. Also, because you've already got one HDMI
port on your laptop, in theory you only need to drive one monitor from USB.
That should be possible. Linux drivers could also be an issue. I would
recommend buying a device from a reputable source that allows returns if it
doesn't work.
I've never come across a dual-HDMI cable. It sounds dodgy.
Shane.
_______________________________________________
I've seen people have very good luck with Matrox devices which emulate one
VERY wide screen, and in fact split that into two outputs. Think the one I
saw was used with two projectors, so emulated 8x3 to the PC, but I've seen
similar for 16x9 duals (32x9)...
They plug into your display output and tell the computer they're one display
device, but then separate it, so you just need to make sure whatever you're
displaying will then work with a single (or half) a screen.
Does the Inspiron not work with a standard Dell port replicator? Those have
twin display outputs usually...
John
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Hi Amias,
I wasn?t talking about the card slot ? the Matrox device I was talking about plugs into your video port (HDMI or otherwise), and fools the VGA card into believing it?s a widescreen monitor, when in fact it?s a pair of outputs.
I?ll see if I can find a link for you?
John
From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Amias Channer
Sent: 25 May 2014 13:07
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
Hello john,
No it doesn't have port replication or a card slot , just hdmi 1.4 and usb 3 , I think the I tel chipset does that Intel wireless video thing but I've never seen anything to receive it. I'd prefer to have a single connection if possible.
The Dell inspiron 7737 runs ubuntu 14.04 really well and I'd recommend it for linux use.
Cheers
Amias
On 25 May 2014 10:52, <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk <mailto:bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk> > wrote:
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[mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk> ] On Behalf Of Shane McEwan
Sent: 25 May 2014 10:28
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
On 24/05/14 20:48, Amias Channer wrote:
> I have a pair of LG 24 inch LCD IPS panels (VGA/DVI/HDMI) that i want
> to use with my dell inspiron 7737 which has usb and hdmi. I'm running
> ubuntu 14.04.
>
> As i understand it my options are a usb 3.0 docking station thing with
> dual hdmi or some kind of cable with a lump that combines two hdmi
> screens to display one hdmi output.
In my, limited, experience you'll probably have problems running two
monitors at full resolution and refresh rate over a single USB connection.
There just isn't enough bandwidth. My tests were pre-USB3, however, so if
you can get USB3 then YMMV. Anyway, the detailed specs for the USB docking
station should state what resolution and refresh rates the video output can
drive so make sure you check that. Also, because you've already got one HDMI
port on your laptop, in theory you only need to drive one monitor from USB.
That should be possible. Linux drivers could also be an issue. I would
recommend buying a device from a reputable source that allows returns if it
doesn't work.
I've never come across a dual-HDMI cable. It sounds dodgy.
Shane.
_______________________________________________
I've seen people have very good luck with Matrox devices which emulate one
VERY wide screen, and in fact split that into two outputs. Think the one I
saw was used with two projectors, so emulated 8x3 to the PC, but I've seen
similar for 16x9 duals (32x9)...
They plug into your display output and tell the computer they're one display
device, but then separate it, so you just need to make sure whatever you're
displaying will then work with a single (or half) a screen.
Does the Inspiron not work with a standard Dell port replicator? Those have
twin display outputs usually...
John
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From: <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk>
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OK,
So unless you get a HDMI to VGA adaptor, the dual head unit I?m thinking of isn?t going to work (it won?t take an HDMI input). However, you?d be okay with the TripleHead2Go device as that?ll allow a drive from DVI (and DVI to HDMI cables/adaptors are fairly common)?
http://www.matrox.com/graphics/de/products/gxm/
There?s where you?ll find all the info about the different models (It?s linking to the German site, don?t ask why, but when I browsed it, it was in English anyway)?
Cheers,
John
From: John [mailto:john@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk]
Sent: 26 May 2014 14:56
To: 'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'
Subject: RE: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
Hi Amias,
I wasn?t talking about the card slot ? the Matrox device I was talking about plugs into your video port (HDMI or otherwise), and fools the VGA card into believing it?s a widescreen monitor, when in fact it?s a pair of outputs.
I?ll see if I can find a link for you?
John
From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk> [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Amias Channer
Sent: 25 May 2014 13:07
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
Hello john,
No it doesn't have port replication or a card slot , just hdmi 1.4 and usb 3 , I think the I tel chipset does that Intel wireless video thing but I've never seen anything to receive it. I'd prefer to have a single connection if possible.
The Dell inspiron 7737 runs ubuntu 14.04 really well and I'd recommend it for linux use.
Cheers
Amias
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Sent: 25 May 2014 10:28
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
On 24/05/14 20:48, Amias Channer wrote:
> I have a pair of LG 24 inch LCD IPS panels (VGA/DVI/HDMI) that i want
> to use with my dell inspiron 7737 which has usb and hdmi. I'm running
> ubuntu 14.04.
>
> As i understand it my options are a usb 3.0 docking station thing with
> dual hdmi or some kind of cable with a lump that combines two hdmi
> screens to display one hdmi output.
In my, limited, experience you'll probably have problems running two
monitors at full resolution and refresh rate over a single USB connection.
There just isn't enough bandwidth. My tests were pre-USB3, however, so if
you can get USB3 then YMMV. Anyway, the detailed specs for the USB docking
station should state what resolution and refresh rates the video output can
drive so make sure you check that. Also, because you've already got one HDMI
port on your laptop, in theory you only need to drive one monitor from USB.
That should be possible. Linux drivers could also be an issue. I would
recommend buying a device from a reputable source that allows returns if it
doesn't work.
I've never come across a dual-HDMI cable. It sounds dodgy.
Shane.
_______________________________________________
I've seen people have very good luck with Matrox devices which emulate one
VERY wide screen, and in fact split that into two outputs. Think the one I
saw was used with two projectors, so emulated 8x3 to the PC, but I've seen
similar for 16x9 duals (32x9)...
They plug into your display output and tell the computer they're one display
device, but then separate it, so you just need to make sure whatever you're
displaying will then work with a single (or half) a screen.
Does the Inspiron not work with a standard Dell port replicator? Those have
twin display outputs usually...
John
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Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 13:06:52 +0100
From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
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Hello john,
No it doesn't have port replication or a card slot , just hdmi 1.4 and usb
3 , I think the I tel chipset does that Intel wireless video thing but I've
never seen anything to receive it. I'd prefer to have a single connection
if possible.
The Dell inspiron 7737 runs ubuntu 14.04 really well and I'd recommend it
for linux use.
Cheers
Amias
On 25 May 2014 10:52, <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
> [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Shane McEwan
> Sent: 25 May 2014 10:28
> To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>
> On 24/05/14 20:48, Amias Channer wrote:
> > I have a pair of LG 24 inch LCD IPS panels (VGA/DVI/HDMI) that i want
> > to use with my dell inspiron 7737 which has usb and hdmi. I'm running
> > ubuntu 14.04.
> >
> > As i understand it my options are a usb 3.0 docking station thing with
> > dual hdmi or some kind of cable with a lump that combines two hdmi
> > screens to display one hdmi output.
>
> In my, limited, experience you'll probably have problems running two
> monitors at full resolution and refresh rate over a single USB connection.
> There just isn't enough bandwidth. My tests were pre-USB3, however, so if
> you can get USB3 then YMMV. Anyway, the detailed specs for the USB docking
> station should state what resolution and refresh rates the video output can
> drive so make sure you check that. Also, because you've already got one
> HDMI
> port on your laptop, in theory you only need to drive one monitor from USB.
> That should be possible. Linux drivers could also be an issue. I would
> recommend buying a device from a reputable source that allows returns if it
> doesn't work.
>
> I've never come across a dual-HDMI cable. It sounds dodgy.
>
> Shane.
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
> I've seen people have very good luck with Matrox devices which emulate one
> VERY wide screen, and in fact split that into two outputs. Think the one I
> saw was used with two projectors, so emulated 8x3 to the PC, but I've seen
> similar for 16x9 duals (32x9)...
>
> They plug into your display output and tell the computer they're one
> display
> device, but then separate it, so you just need to make sure whatever you're
> displaying will then work with a single (or half) a screen.
>
> Does the Inspiron not work with a standard Dell port replicator? Those have
> twin display outputs usually...
>
> John
>
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
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Hello john,
No it doesn't have port replication or a card slot , just hdmi 1.4 and usb
3 , I think the I tel chipset does that Intel wireless video thing but I've
never seen anything to receive it. I'd prefer to have a single connection
if possible.
The Dell inspiron 7737 runs ubuntu 14.04 really well and I'd recommend it
for linux use.
Cheers
Amias
On 25 May 2014 10:52, <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
> [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Shane McEwan
> Sent: 25 May 2014 10:28
> To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
>
> On 24/05/14 20:48, Amias Channer wrote:
> > I have a pair of LG 24 inch LCD IPS panels (VGA/DVI/HDMI) that i want
> > to use with my dell inspiron 7737 which has usb and hdmi. I'm running
> > ubuntu 14.04.
> >
> > As i understand it my options are a usb 3.0 docking station thing with
> > dual hdmi or some kind of cable with a lump that combines two hdmi
> > screens to display one hdmi output.
>
> In my, limited, experience you'll probably have problems running two
> monitors at full resolution and refresh rate over a single USB connection.
> There just isn't enough bandwidth. My tests were pre-USB3, however, so if
> you can get USB3 then YMMV. Anyway, the detailed specs for the USB docking
> station should state what resolution and refresh rates the video output can
> drive so make sure you check that. Also, because you've already got one
> HDMI
> port on your laptop, in theory you only need to drive one monitor from USB.
> That should be possible. Linux drivers could also be an issue. I would
> recommend buying a device from a reputable source that allows returns if it
> doesn't work.
>
> I've never come across a dual-HDMI cable. It sounds dodgy.
>
> Shane.
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
> I've seen people have very good luck with Matrox devices which emulate one
> VERY wide screen, and in fact split that into two outputs. Think the one I
> saw was used with two projectors, so emulated 8x3 to the PC, but I've seen
> similar for 16x9 duals (32x9)...
>
> They plug into your display output and tell the computer they're one
> display
> device, but then separate it, so you just need to make sure whatever you're
> displaying will then work with a single (or half) a screen.
>
> Does the Inspiron not work with a standard Dell port replicator? Those have
> twin display outputs usually...
>
> John
>
>
>
>
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 20:48:57 +0100
From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
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Roit moi Luggers,
its been a while , i hope you are all well :)
I have a pair of LG 24 inch LCD IPS panels (VGA/DVI/HDMI) that i want to
use with my dell inspiron 7737 which has usb and hdmi. I'm running
ubuntu 14.04.
As i understand it my options are a usb 3.0 docking station thing
with dual hdmi or some kind of cable with a lump that combines
two hdmi screens to display one hdmi output.
Has anyone on this list tried this sort of thing before ?
I welcome your tails of success and woe.
I've seen quite a lot of tales of woe from linux users who tried
displaylink solutions but been bitten by a lack of usb 3 support.
It would be cool if the solution worked with my wifes macbook pro as
well but not essential.
Toodle-pip
Amias
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 10:27:32 +0100
From: Shane McEwan <shane@mcewan.id.au>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
Message-ID: <5381B784.7030007@mcewan.id.au>
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On 24/05/14 20:48, Amias Channer wrote:
> I have a pair of LG 24 inch LCD IPS panels (VGA/DVI/HDMI) that i want to
> use with my dell inspiron 7737 which has usb and hdmi. I'm running
> ubuntu 14.04.
>
> As i understand it my options are a usb 3.0 docking station thing
> with dual hdmi or some kind of cable with a lump that combines
> two hdmi screens to display one hdmi output.
In my, limited, experience you'll probably have problems running two
monitors at full resolution and refresh rate over a single USB
connection. There just isn't enough bandwidth. My tests were pre-USB3,
however, so if you can get USB3 then YMMV. Anyway, the detailed specs
for the USB docking station should state what resolution and refresh
rates the video output can drive so make sure you check that. Also,
because you've already got one HDMI port on your laptop, in theory you
only need to drive one monitor from USB. That should be possible. Linux
drivers could also be an issue. I would recommend buying a device from a
reputable source that allows returns if it doesn't work.
I've never come across a dual-HDMI cable. It sounds dodgy.
Shane.
------------------------------
Message: 3
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 10:51:13 +0100
From: <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk>
To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
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[mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Shane McEwan
Sent: 25 May 2014 10:28
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
On 24/05/14 20:48, Amias Channer wrote:
> I have a pair of LG 24 inch LCD IPS panels (VGA/DVI/HDMI) that i want
> to use with my dell inspiron 7737 which has usb and hdmi. I'm running
> ubuntu 14.04.
>
> As i understand it my options are a usb 3.0 docking station thing with
> dual hdmi or some kind of cable with a lump that combines two hdmi
> screens to display one hdmi output.
In my, limited, experience you'll probably have problems running two
monitors at full resolution and refresh rate over a single USB connection.
There just isn't enough bandwidth. My tests were pre-USB3, however, so if
you can get USB3 then YMMV. Anyway, the detailed specs for the USB docking
station should state what resolution and refresh rates the video output can
drive so make sure you check that. Also, because you've already got one HDMI
port on your laptop, in theory you only need to drive one monitor from USB.
That should be possible. Linux drivers could also be an issue. I would
recommend buying a device from a reputable source that allows returns if it
doesn't work.
I've never come across a dual-HDMI cable. It sounds dodgy.
Shane.
_______________________________________________
I've seen people have very good luck with Matrox devices which emulate one
VERY wide screen, and in fact split that into two outputs. Think the one I
saw was used with two projectors, so emulated 8x3 to the PC, but I've seen
similar for 16x9 duals (32x9)...
They plug into your display output and tell the computer they're one display
device, but then separate it, so you just need to make sure whatever you're
displaying will then work with a single (or half) a screen.
Does the Inspiron not work with a standard Dell port replicator? Those have
twin display outputs usually...
John
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Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 20:48:57 +0100
From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
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Roit moi Luggers,
its been a while , i hope you are all well :)
I have a pair of LG 24 inch LCD IPS panels (VGA/DVI/HDMI) that i want to
use with my dell inspiron 7737 which has usb and hdmi. I'm running
ubuntu 14.04.
As i understand it my options are a usb 3.0 docking station thing
with dual hdmi or some kind of cable with a lump that combines
two hdmi screens to display one hdmi output.
Has anyone on this list tried this sort of thing before ?
I welcome your tails of success and woe.
I've seen quite a lot of tales of woe from linux users who tried
displaylink solutions but been bitten by a lack of usb 3 support.
It would be cool if the solution worked with my wifes macbook pro as
well but not essential.
Toodle-pip
Amias
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 10:27:32 +0100
From: Shane McEwan <shane@mcewan.id.au>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
Message-ID: <5381B784.7030007@mcewan.id.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
On 24/05/14 20:48, Amias Channer wrote:
> I have a pair of LG 24 inch LCD IPS panels (VGA/DVI/HDMI) that i want to
> use with my dell inspiron 7737 which has usb and hdmi. I'm running
> ubuntu 14.04.
>
> As i understand it my options are a usb 3.0 docking station thing
> with dual hdmi or some kind of cable with a lump that combines
> two hdmi screens to display one hdmi output.
In my, limited, experience you'll probably have problems running two
monitors at full resolution and refresh rate over a single USB
connection. There just isn't enough bandwidth. My tests were pre-USB3,
however, so if you can get USB3 then YMMV. Anyway, the detailed specs
for the USB docking station should state what resolution and refresh
rates the video output can drive so make sure you check that. Also,
because you've already got one HDMI port on your laptop, in theory you
only need to drive one monitor from USB. That should be possible. Linux
drivers could also be an issue. I would recommend buying a device from a
reputable source that allows returns if it doesn't work.
I've never come across a dual-HDMI cable. It sounds dodgy.
Shane.
------------------------------
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Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 10:51:13 +0100
From: <bblug@gascoigne19.freeserve.co.uk>
To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
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From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
[mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Shane McEwan
Sent: 25 May 2014 10:28
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Multiple displays for my laptop
On 24/05/14 20:48, Amias Channer wrote:
> I have a pair of LG 24 inch LCD IPS panels (VGA/DVI/HDMI) that i want
> to use with my dell inspiron 7737 which has usb and hdmi. I'm running
> ubuntu 14.04.
>
> As i understand it my options are a usb 3.0 docking station thing with
> dual hdmi or some kind of cable with a lump that combines two hdmi
> screens to display one hdmi output.
In my, limited, experience you'll probably have problems running two
monitors at full resolution and refresh rate over a single USB connection.
There just isn't enough bandwidth. My tests were pre-USB3, however, so if
you can get USB3 then YMMV. Anyway, the detailed specs for the USB docking
station should state what resolution and refresh rates the video output can
drive so make sure you check that. Also, because you've already got one HDMI
port on your laptop, in theory you only need to drive one monitor from USB.
That should be possible. Linux drivers could also be an issue. I would
recommend buying a device from a reputable source that allows returns if it
doesn't work.
I've never come across a dual-HDMI cable. It sounds dodgy.
Shane.
_______________________________________________
I've seen people have very good luck with Matrox devices which emulate one
VERY wide screen, and in fact split that into two outputs. Think the one I
saw was used with two projectors, so emulated 8x3 to the PC, but I've seen
similar for 16x9 duals (32x9)...
They plug into your display output and tell the computer they're one display
device, but then separate it, so you just need to make sure whatever you're
displaying will then work with a single (or half) a screen.
Does the Inspiron not work with a standard Dell port replicator? Those have
twin display outputs usually...
John
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