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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Ubuntu Edge (Sebastian)
2. Re: Ubuntu Edge (Ian Plain)
3. Re: Ubuntu Edge (Keith Edmunds)
4. Re: Ubuntu Edge (Sebastian)
5. Easyjet booking website (Christopher Horler)
6. Re: Easyjet booking website (Sebastian)
7. Re: Easyjet booking website (Christopher Horler)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:20:08 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Ubuntu Edge
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Ubuntu Edge will not get made! $12,812,776 of the $32 million dollar
goal raised.

Here's the link to a blog post about the failure:

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/ubuntu-edge-fails-to-meet-mutli-million-dollar-goal-wont-be-made



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:25:30 +0100
From: Ian Plain <ian@cyber-cottage.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Ubuntu Edge
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Have a read of
http://mobile.eweek.com/blogs/first-read/is-android-really-open-source.html if
you think android doesn't have proprietary elements

On Wednesday, August 14, 2013, MJ Ray wrote:

> On 02/08/13 20:04, Sebastian wrote:
> > I assume at least some of you already know about Ubuntu Edge. Woudn't
> > that be quite a awesome phone if people actsualy get it? I mean they
> > have set a big amount of money and unless they reach that amount, people
> > won't even get it. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
> > [...] What are your thoughts about Ubuntu Edge of interest?
>
> "Although the Ubuntu Edge has been record-breaking in its crowdfunding
> efforts, the fundraising campaign will fall well short of its 32 million
> dollar target."
> http://www.openanalytics.eu/blog/crowdfunding-ubuntu-edge-will-fail
>
> "This projection puts the Ubuntu Edge campaign on pace for a $18 million
> total."
>
> http://www.openanalytics.eu/blog/using-kickstarter-data-predict-ubuntu-edges-success
>
> And as far as I can tell, it's now even below that ($10m on 14 Aug) and
> will more likely end at $14m if it keeps this pace up.
>
> With such a high target, is this more than just advertising for
> locked-down network-supplied Ubuntu phones?
>
> Personally, I'm using an unlocked CM10 phone without the Google Android
> apps and it's pretty close to what I want, given it's a mainstream
> phone. I'd fear Ubuntu Edge would include some bits that are
> proprietary or spyware or both and I noticed nothing to contradict that
> on the fundraising page, so I don't see a huge benefit to switching.
>
> Regards,
> --
> MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op
> http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer.
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Ian Plain
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 19:12:38 +0100
From: Keith Edmunds <kae@midnighthax.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Ubuntu Edge
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:20:08 +0100, sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com said:

> Here's the link to a blog post about the failure:

It wasn't a failure: it's received enormous publicity (which, I suspect,
was the aim all along).
--
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone
who will never be able to repay you."



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 19:29:17 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Ubuntu Edge
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On 22/08/13 19:12, Keith Edmunds wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:20:08 +0100, sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com said:
>
>> Here's the link to a blog post about the failure:
> It wasn't a failure: it's received enormous publicity (which, I suspect,
> was the aim all along).
Failure to reach the goal yes, but also failure in quite a lot of other
ways no. I think you'll like what Jono Bacon the Ubuntu Community
Manager had to say about it in his blog post etc:
http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/08/22/onwards-and-upwards-2/



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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:06:54 +0100
From: Christopher Horler <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Easyjet booking website
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<CAAeT8m-_RrhPXfnv6mMB06syo2fD2uAYpEX4CuQ3qrjkrDmkGw@mail.gmail.com>
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Just booked a flight for next year... suffered a regrettably annoying
affair of being repetitively informed my credit card number was not a
number (it was). It seems this is a known issue with Firefox / Linux.

Anyway when trying again with js console logging turned on and having
a quick look at the page structure... it worked (no tweaking on my
part). When the screen navigation took me away from the page the log
disappeared - is it on disk anywhere? (I'd be curious to interrogate
it).

I grep'ed my FF profile directory and /tmp but found nothing.

Ideas?

(I'd rather not buy a second ticket!)

Thanks,
Chris



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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:39:33 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Easyjet booking website
Message-ID: <521668F5.4000502@gmx.com>
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On 22/08/13 20:06, Christopher Horler wrote:
> Just booked a flight for next year
A flight to where and why of interest?



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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 21:35:07 +0100
From: Christopher Horler <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Easyjet booking website
Message-ID:
<CAAeT8m_R1YWxPvyW4_fWNgPmnS1Lho7YUbgtqxvCB2kWh83qWA@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On 22 August 2013 20:39, Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com> wrote:
> On 22/08/13 20:06, Christopher Horler wrote:
>>
>> Just booked a flight for next year
>
> A flight to where and why of interest?
>

Where... hardly relevant, but I'm going skiing / on holiday :-)

Why? - Curiosity (don't you ever take things to pieces to learn how
they work?!)

I'm wondering if the original error was caused by a Javascrpt error
message I saw (briefly in the console) - a script was being denied
access to the document object. The Javascript validator uses the
document object to retrieve another element's text to validate the
input into a form (assumption after reading the page / js source). I
retrieved the object in the console and the second attempt worked (I
cannot remember if I reloaded the page prior to it working or not,
which doesn't help).

Reiterating... The problem is I can't remember the full error message
- so I wanted a log file so I could review it, though every indication
is that Easyjet probably aren't interested in fixing any problem
(searching the internet briefly leads me to this conclusion... it may
not be accurate).



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