Bristol Digest, Vol 513, Issue 6

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: This Saturday (Sebastian)
2. Re: Old USB Sticks - don't throw them away yet! (D J Stewart)
3. Test email having issues sending to the mailing list (Sebastian)
4. 3rd attempt at replying to Chris on the mailing list (Sebastian)
5. Re: 3rd attempt at replying to Chris on the mailing list
(David Smith)
6. Job Opportunity - Linux Support Engineer, Bristol (Sam Pearson)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:31:42 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] This Saturday
Message-ID: <5213A7FE.2090906@gmx.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

On 20/08/13 18:26, Chris Simmons wrote:
> I am still hopeful about attending a BBLUG meeting
> before too long - if I can sort transport I'll be there -
>
Ok awesome :) hope to meet you there :).

Sebastian



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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:19:09 +0100 (BST)
From: D J Stewart <bblug@iridium.org.uk>
To: "d.hockinbt" <d.hockin@btinternet.com>, Bristol and Bath Linux
User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Old USB Sticks - don't throw them away yet!
Message-ID:
<alpine.DEB.2.02.1308201917110.5671@lithium.iridium.org.uk>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

On Tue, 20 Aug 2013, d.hockinbt wrote:

> Having 3 ISPs and multiple email aliases and happily using Outlook
> Express, I don't know of a linux email prog that can cope with that -
> can anyone advise, please?

(al)pine, mutt, thunderbird, evolution and just about every other unix
mail client released in the past twenty or so years can handle this, and
they all do a better job of handling email than outlook ever will.

--
Dave Stewart




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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 00:15:42 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: [bristol] Test email having issues sending to the mailing
list
Message-ID: <5213F89E.8020002@gmx.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

This is a test email.



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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 00:26:22 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: [bristol] 3rd attempt at replying to Chris on the mailing
list
Message-ID: <5213FB1E.2050706@gmx.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Ok my test email went to the mailing list ok, and so below is my 3rd
attempt at replying to Chris on the mailing list, with the messages of
the two emails I sent that didn't seem to get through at all. Maybe the
name of the subject was causing the problems? Re: [bristol] (no subject)

On 21/08/13 00:13, Sebastian wrote:
> My reply to Chris did not get sent to the mailing list earlier for
> some reason it seems. I remember in the past sometimes I got issues
> emailing the mailing list as well, and I think it's annoying when
> stuff like that happens. Hopefully this one gets sent there ok though
> :).
>
> On 20/08/13 19:52, Sebastian wrote:
>> You scared me with all that! Also no I hadn't read that before. Ok
>> you didn't really scare me with any of that :).
>>
>> Linux distributions aren't 100% immune from malware. However when
>> compared to Windows a major difference is that generally they have
>> been designed in a more secure way. Where as with Windows security
>> was just a bolt on really. Also it wasn't really designed with
>> networking/Internet in mind to begin with.
>>
>> In general it's easier to have Windows computers taken over, because
>> of the OS not having that very good security, but also how most users
>> provide poor security to it if any.
>>
>> Another thing is how most XP users for example will run it as admin
>> which means full control to the user, but also the malware. Where as
>> most Linux distribution users don't run one as root for everything
>> for example, and many users know that's not a very good idea to in
>> general, with the exception of security penetration distributions for
>> example.
>>
>> Linux distributions are good at providing the user with root access
>> for only the specific task they are doing as well in general, where
>> as XP for example isn't good at doing this, and so most users run it
>> as admin.
>>
>> The idea that Linux distributions are so much more secure than
>> Windows, to the extent that don't need to worry about malware at all
>> when running one online, is wrong though. Yes Windows malware won't
>> work on a Linux distribution, with the exception of Wine possibly or
>> inside a Windows virtual machine, but that doesn't mean there can't
>> be malware made for Linux distributions specifically, or browser
>> based attacks that are cross platform as well for example.
>>
>> Also unlike Windows users of Linux distributions tend to get their
>> software from the trusted repositories/repos of the distribution that
>> they are using. Software isn't just put in there, in most
>> distributions, instead it's put in by packagers, and tested by
>> Quality Assurance people etc. Where as with Windows most software
>> for it comes from various different places on the web or otherwise,
>> and so the chance of malware is much higher, but also since it's the
>> biggest target as well, since the millions of people who don't know
>> much about computers at all using it.
>>
>> In fact with Linux distributions there is like a special group of
>> people who know about the zero day exploits from different
>> distributions, and the fixes become public, and distributions pick up
>> on them. Ideally a distribution would want their security people to
>> be part of this group, but if not can follow the security people of
>> other distributions who are part of that group basically. Or it's
>> basically what I am saying, I know something, but not sure exactly.
>>
>> Sebastian
>




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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 09:15:36 +0100
From: David Smith <Dave.Smith@st.com>
To: <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] 3rd attempt at replying to Chris on the mailing
list
Message-ID: <52147728.7080006@st.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"

On 08/21/13 00:26, Sebastian wrote:
> Ok my test email went to the mailing list ok, and so below is my 3rd
> attempt at replying to Chris on the mailing list, with the messages of
> the two emails I sent that didn't seem to get through at all. Maybe the
> name of the subject was causing the problems? Re: [bristol] (no subject)

Correct. I've rejected them back to you.





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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:47:05 +0100
From: Sam Pearson <sam@sgp.me.uk>
To: Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: [bristol] Job Opportunity - Linux Support Engineer, Bristol
Message-ID:
<CAFN46pL+VbTELLPPg0oOOxspCyG=sD=N3Lb00EzK+MH3S=Ligw@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi all,

I hope you'll forgive the de-lurk to plug a job opportunity in Bristol at
my employer, LinuxIT.

We're looking for a Support Engineer to join a busy Service Desk team at
our office in Emerson's Green.

We've got a broad range of support customers in all sectors of the economy
and running all sorts of systems (mostly Linux of one form or another but
there is some UNIX and Windows from time to time). It's a good place to
gain broad experience of Linux in all sorts of environments.

We ideally need someone with workplace experience of supporting Linux. It's
a customer-facing role so good interpersonal skills are a must. If you have
a relevant academic or professional qualification all the better.
Ultimately, though, what we need is someone who is enthusiastic about Linux
and technology, hardworking and professional so if you're interested please
get in touch whatever your background or experience.

If anyone wants more information then you can check out
http://www.linuxit.com/who-we-are/work-for-us/ or email me off-list
directly (either at this address or at <sam.pearson@linuxit.com>). As the
technical lead for the support team I can provide more info and will be
dealing with at least the initial stags of any application.

If there are any agencies lurking, please note that we are only seeking
direct applicants at this time.

Cheers,
Sam


--
Sam Pearson : sgp.me.uk : @sagepe : 0x40e74c48
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