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Today's Topics:

1. Re: August 2013 BBLUG meeting this Saturday 24th :)
(Philip Jensen)
2. Re: August 2013 BBLUG meeting this Saturday 24th :) (Sebastian)
3. Re: August 2013 BBLUG meeting this Saturday 24th :) (Sebastian)
4. Re: Old USB Sticks - don't throw them away yet! (d.hockinbt)
5. Re: August 2013 BBLUG meeting this Saturday 24th :) (Sebastian)
6. Re: Old USB Sticks - don't throw them away yet! (Martin)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:31:25 +0100
From: Philip Jensen <hat.tie.jacket@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] August 2013 BBLUG meeting this Saturday 24th :)
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On 20 Aug 2013 16:28, "Philip Jensen" <hat.tie.jacket@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 20 Aug 2013 15:53, "Sebastian" <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 20/08/13 15:29, Philip Jensen wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 19 Aug 2013 21:41, "Sebastian" <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi
> >> >
> >> > It's nearly that time again :) for another BBLUG meeting :) this
Saturday the 24th :). However this time round it's the August one, and I
thought it was quite good last year, because of interesting visitors :). I
hope there will be a good turn out for this years :) of at least five
people other than myself. However the big question is: Who is planning on
being there other than myself? :)
> >> >
> >> > I am hoping to meet more than just regulars this Saturday with also
hopefully some people who don't tend to come often :), and ideally
hopefully some new people as well :).
> >> >
> >> <snip>
> >> >
> >> > I hope to meet more of you this Saturday :).
> >> >
> >> > Sebastian
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> As one of the afore mentioned new people, I'd like to be there but I'm
going to be cycling to Bath with my girlfriend.
> >>
> >> So instead I'll do the introduction I was going to do afterwards.
> >>
> >> I'm a 3rd year chemical engineering student from the university of
Manchester, currently on a year placement at Rolls-Royce in Filton.
> >
> > Nice :).
> >
> >> I run a #! Eeepc 1000, a Debian Sheeva plug I'm trying to save from
ennui and a Nexus 4 I've been meaning to put CyanogenMod on. Last weekend I
picked up a RasberryPi and have been setting up RetroPi.
> >>
> >> I have more projects I'd like to do, than you could shake a stick at
but I'm trying to be better about documenting and completing them.
> >>
> >> I'm sorry I'm not going to be there, but I won't miss September's.
> >
> > Ok Saturday 28th September is the next one after this Saturday's, and
hope to meet you there :).
> >
> > By the way what distro/s do you use for standard Desktop Linux if you
do that? :)
> >>
>
> I don't actually have a desktop at the moment. I've managed to survive by
having an external monitor and using it with my eee. :)
>
> I started out with ubuntu then moved to Linux mint when unity started
slowing things down too much. I finally settled on Crunchbang but have been
meaning to play around and try some others, hopefully something I can do
with the raspi.

As to why, I wanted something more lightweight as my eee was only sporting
1 gig of ram and an atom processor at the time. I stayed with crunch bang
because it pushed me to become more familiar with the workings of Linux and
I enjoyed that.
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:40:12 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] August 2013 BBLUG meeting this Saturday 24th :)
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> >
> > By the way what distro/s do you use for standard Desktop Linux if
> you do that? :)
> >>
>
> I don't actually have a desktop at the moment. I've managed to survive
> by having an external monitor and using it with my eee. :)
>
I think you know what I meant probably really :). Mouse and keyboard
and a monitor :). Or on a laptop/netbook.
>
> I started out with ubuntu then moved to Linux mint when unity started
> slowing things down too much.
>
Slowing things down how?
>
> I finally settled on Crunchbang but have been meaning to play around
> and try some others, hopefully something I can do with the raspi.
>
I think most of the major enough distros will port to the Raspberry Pi
if they haven't already. Take Mageia for example, there was a
experimental ARM version in the past based on Mageia 1, (or I think was
based on that anyway), but we will probably have a port to Raspberry Pi
to in the future as well :).

I got a Raspberry Pi to, but haven't really done anything as such with
it yet, so still thinking about what will actually use it for etc.
Some/many of the people coming to the LUG meeting's are quite into the
Raspberry Pi as well.



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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:42:21 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] August 2013 BBLUG meeting this Saturday 24th :)
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> I got a Raspberry Pi to,
Since towards the end of April.




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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:52:30 +0100
From: "d.hockinbt" <d.hockin@btinternet.com>
To: "Bristol and Bath Linux User Group" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Old USB Sticks - don't throw them away yet!
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Why not persade more to install linux and dual boot NOW from LXF disks
BEFORE XP is no longer supported, thus giving people a chance of getting
accustomed to Linux early?

My 3 current PCs all dual boot XP/XPro and Suse 10 or12.x . Once XP stops
being supported, I'll just unplug the net connection whenever I want to use
Photoshop CS4 on my desktop, or v.6 on the laptop and my late wife's
desktop. As long as the viruscheck , firewall and malware progs still work,
the lack of MS updates won't matter, and once those progs are no longer
supported, then I'll just unplug the broadband plug if necessary!

Having 3 ISPs and multiple email aliases and happily using Outlook Express,
I don't know of a linux email prog that can cope with that - can anyone
advise, please?

Dave, Posset.
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From: "Sebastian" <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: "Bristol and Bath Linux User Group" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>;
"Sebastian" <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [bristol] Old USB Sticks - don't throw them away yet!


> On 20/08/13 13:57, Peter Hemmings wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> In case we have some form of "Install Fest" next year, can I suggest that
>> you keep any old sticks that could possibly be used.
>>
>> We have about 200 members, if only one in four has a spare would be
>> enough for a reasonable event.
>>
>> With the absence of anything specific I thought we (or me) could at least
>> just copy live OS's to 2 or 4 GB sticks, find a venue and advertise the
>> event when support for XP finishes.
>>
>> I thought it would be a good time to think about a supply of sticks even
>> for just a basic event!
>>
>> Regards
>>
> Yes sounds good :).
>
> Maybe I can come back from FOSDEM ( http://fosdem.org ) 2014 in Brussels
> next year with quite a lot of Mageia 4 Live CD's etc to use for an idea
> :), also what's nice about the Mageia 4 release is how it's released
> before the XP end of life rather than after it like Ubuntu and Mint for
> example. However what's also nice about it is how it's going to be a
> FOSDEM 2014 release :):
> http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2013/mageia-meeting.2013-06-24-19.13.html
> http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2013/mageia-meeting.2013-06-24-19.13.log.html
>
> On the subject of next year and this idea here are some relevant dates and
> links :):
>
> Saturday 1st February 2014 Mageia 4 Final Release, with the release being
> a FOSDEM 2014 release!: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_4_Development
> https://blog.mageia.org/en/2013/07/22/mageia-4-already/
>
> The end of Microsoft's Windows XP SP3 and Office 2003 support Tuesday
> April 8th 2014!: http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/endofsupport.aspx
>
> Ubuntu 14.04 Long Term Support Release Thursday 24th April 2014.
>
> The Linux Mint version based on Ubuntu 14.04 probably May 2014.
>
> Of course the above dates may change.
>
> On the subject of USB sticks 50 or so card sized Mageia USB sticks sold at
> the Mageia stand at FOSDEM this year. I didn't buy any though, since
> didn't really know what was being sold until later, but basically someone
> made their own card sized ones and sold them. Of course with an install
> fest type idea we wouldn't be selling any install USB's.
>
> By the way I hope you didn't mind me replying, I realise that was more for
> other people, and are you coming along to this Saturday's LUG meeting? :)
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:54:36 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] August 2013 BBLUG meeting this Saturday 24th :)
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> As to why, I wanted something more lightweight as my eee was only
> sporting 1 gig of ram and an atom processor at the time.
>
Sounds like my EEE PC hardware wise, that I bought in August 2012,
however seems to be a 2011 model. It doesn't run that well with the
Windows 7 Starter Edition that came pre installed on it, but with the
Asus Express Gateway Cloud OS that I was able to enable it runs ok, and
that's a instant on OS on the chip as well. It also runs much better
with Mageia :_).
>
> I stayed with crunch bang because it pushed me to become more familiar
> with the workings of Linux and I enjoyed that
>
We had two people who really liked Crunchbang coming to the LUG
meeting's often recnetlyish, but probably won't be quite a while untill
they do again, since no longer live in Birstol.

Also I actually podcassted at New Years with quite a few people,
including the Crunchbang founder, but didn't know it was him to begin
with etc. However he really did sound quite knowledgeable about a lot
of things.



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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 17:06:09 +0100
From: Martin <inkubus@interalpha.co.uk>
To: "d.hockinbt" <d.hockin@btinternet.com>, Bristol and Bath Linux
User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Old USB Sticks - don't throw them away yet!
Message-ID: <1377014769.6121.40.camel@raphael>
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On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 16:52 +0100, d.hockinbt wrote:
> Why not persade more to install linux and dual boot NOW from LXF disks
> BEFORE XP is no longer supported, thus giving people a chance of getting
> accustomed to Linux early?

Perhaps a personal perspective but I've found that most dual boot
systems are almost always used with one of the OSs. Although switching
between them is possible, I've found people rarely do.

> Having 3 ISPs and multiple email aliases and happily using Outlook Express,
> I don't know of a linux email prog that can cope with that - can anyone
> advise, please?

I've used evolution for many years to handle 4-5 IMAP accounts plus
others via POP. It takes a little getting used to an has never been bug
free but, I find, it does the job.

Cheers,
- Martin





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