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Bristol Digest, Vol 514, Issue 5

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1. Re: Linux Malware / Repository keys (Christopher Horler)


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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 16:20:18 +0100
From: Christopher Horler <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Linux Malware / Repository keys
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On 21 August 2013 19:30, Christopher Horler <cshorler@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On 20 August 2013 18:30, Chris Simmons <cityofbristol@gmail.com> wrote:
>> You've probably seen this already, but...
>>
>> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/hand-of-thief-
>> malware-could-be-dangerous-if-you-install-it/?ftag=TRE475558a&s_cid
>> =e011&tag=nl.e011&ttag=e011
>>
>
> No actually!
>
> One thing that occurs to me is that what we're perhaps not doing so
> much as a community is sharing keys we trust. Myself, I only have my
> own to share - but it would be interesting generally to know how we
> can best independently establish the authenticity of repository keys
> not included in distribution images (or if you want to take it to the
> nth degree those in the installation images as well).
>
> Might be worth pointing out that you're duplicating the article text
> below... although perhaps it's obvious.
>
> Chris H

For those interested - a more technical analysis is now here
http://blog.avast.com/2013/08/27/linux-trojan-hand-of-thief-ungloved/



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Kamis, 29 Agustus 2013

Bristol Digest, Vol 514, Issue 4

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1. Re: OT - Free to good home Epia Mini-ITX, DBox2, Nokia 770
tablet (Richard Stearn)
2. Re: Installfest ideas and discussion (Sebastian)
3. Re: Installfest ideas and discussion (sb)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:23:32 +0100
From: Richard Stearn <richard@rns-stearn.demon.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] OT - Free to good home Epia Mini-ITX, DBox2,
Nokia 770 tablet
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Theo Cushion wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Having a bit of a clear out and have found some computers which might
> be of interest here (good for small embedded projects).
>
> 800MHz Via Epia MII Mini-ITX board with 512MB of Ram, DVD drive, small
> case and PSU. It's got an integrated VGA graphics card along with composite
> out and doesn't use much juice. Handy if you want a low power board that
> needs IDE where a Raspberry PI won't do.

Hi Theo

If the Epia is still available I am interested.

TIA.

--
Regards
Richard




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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 00:49:37 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Installfest ideas and discussion
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Peter typed:
>
> I think the time for "open" discussions is now over and those actually
> willing to organize an event should do it do it and come back to the
> list occasionally to keep people informed of progress.
>
Yes indeed fine, let's start properly arranging things that way :). (and
I'll reply to those other emails soon :) ). However if someone is
reading this that would like to help us arrange the installfest, please
get in contact with Peter, Chris H, or myself, off list so that you can
be properly part of the organisation of the event as well :).

Before this email I was actually contacted by another volunteer, but we
still need quite a few more ideally :), so please put yourself forward
if you have time to help us organise the event, and are interested in
having a installfest :).

Sometimes it's really rather impressive what small teams can do and oh I
know, but generally the more people the better usually :).

Sebastian



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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:43:10 +0100
From: sb <simon.buist@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Installfest ideas and discussion
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--
Simon


On 29 August 2013 00:49, Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com> wrote:

> Peter typed:
>
>>
>> I think the time for "open" discussions is now over and those actually
>> willing to organize an event should do it do it and come back to the list
>> occasionally to keep people informed of progress.
>>
>> Yes indeed fine, let's start properly arranging things that way :). (and
> I'll reply to those other emails soon :) ). However if someone is reading
> this that would like to help us arrange the installfest, please get in
> contact with Peter, Chris H, or myself, off list so that you can be
> properly part of the organisation of the event as well :).
>
> Before this email I was actually contacted by another volunteer, but we
> still need quite a few more ideally :), so please put yourself forward if
> you have time to help us organise the event, and are interested in having a
> installfest :).
>
I'd like to put myself forward :)

>
> Sometimes it's really rather impressive what small teams can do and oh I
> know, but generally the more people the better usually :).
>
> Sebastian
>
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Bristol Digest, Vol 514, Issue 3

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1. OT - Free to good home Epia Mini-ITX, DBox2, Nokia 770 tablet
(Theo Cushion)
2. Re: OT - Free to good home Epia Mini-ITX, DBox2, Nokia 770
tablet (Sebastian)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:32:08 +0100
From: Theo Cushion <theo@jivatechnology.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] OT - Free to good home Epia Mini-ITX, DBox2, Nokia
770 tablet
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Hi,

Having a bit of a clear out and have found some computers which might be of interest here (good for small embedded projects).

800MHz Via Epia MII Mini-ITX board with 512MB of Ram, DVD drive, small case and PSU. It's got an integrated VGA graphics card along with composite out and doesn't use much juice. Handy if you want a low power board that needs IDE where a Raspberry PI won't do.

DBox2 with Cable tuner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBox2). Might make a cool way to shift FTA cable channels around a home network that XBMC could hook into.

Nokia 770 tablet with bluetooth GPS receiver and car kit, runs Maemo which is a modified version of Debian - who needs an iPad mini?

Also knocking around I have a Logitech TrackMan Live PS2 trackball pointer which could be handy.

Hope that's not too off topic.

Thanks

Theo

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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:45:20 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] OT - Free to good home Epia Mini-ITX, DBox2,
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On 27/08/13 20:32, Theo Cushion wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Having a bit of a clear out and have found some computers which might
> be of interest here (good for small embedded projects).
>
> 800MHz Via Epia MII Mini-ITX board with 512MB of Ram, DVD drive, small
> case and PSU. It's got an integrated VGA graphics card along with
> composite out and doesn't use much juice. Handy if you want a low
> power board that needs IDE where a Raspberry PI won't do.
I may be interested in that, but not sure exactly.
>
> DBox2 with Cable tuner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBox2). Might
> make a cool way to shift FTA cable channels around a home network that
> XBMC could hook into.
Probably not for me that one.
>
> Nokia 770 tablet with bluetooth GPS receiver and car kit, runs Maemo
> which is a modified version of Debian - who needs an iPad mini?
Yes I would be very interested in that :)! Maemo market sharewise didn't
really hit off, but is interesting :), and I don't actually have a tablet.
>
> Also knocking around I have a Logitech TrackMan Live PS2 trackball
> pointer which could be handy.
Indeed that could be useful to have as well :).
>
> Hope that's not too off topic.
>
> Thanks
>
> Theo
>
>
>
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Bristol Digest, Vol 514, Issue 2

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1. Installfest ideas and discussion (Sebastian)
2. Re: Installfest ideas and discussion (Sebastian)
3. Re: Installfest ideas and discussion (Peter Hemmings)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 01:10:48 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: [bristol] Installfest ideas and discussion
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As I am sure many of you have seen we have had quite a few installfest
related emails to this mailing list here and there, since I bought up
the subject again back in June. In fact I already sent quite a few
emails expressing my own idea's about the installfest etc, however below
I am replying in line to Peter's initial installfest thoughts etc, from
his 30 USB Sticks By The End of November!? email. I also welcome :)
people to reply back to this thread/email with their own idea's for an
installfest :). So far it has only really been Peter and myself mainly
expressing our idea's for it on this mailing list, with discussions
about an installfest at LUG meeting's here and there.

Sebastian

On 24/08/13 10:25, Peter Hemmings wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If there is some form of installfest in 2014 I think we need some H/W
> to give out.
>
> If I can get hold of at least 30 (2 to 4GB) sticks, we could have the
> basics for an event. So if anyone wants to donate old stick(s) I hope
> to be at the KT for the next couple of meetings.
Ok sounds good :).
>
>
> If you have problems attending and are a "source" for more than 5
> sticks then let me know and I will try to collect them, but will be
> unable to travel to other countries including Sweden!
I think I know who that comment was aimed at :) and not myself, however
I am actually intending on going to a opensource/freesoftware event in
Gothenburg//G?teborg/ Sweden/Sverige in November :). So maybe I can
take back some USB's whilst over there if sent to whatever hotel I will
be staying in :), but I am intending on coming back with much more
exciting things Linux/opensource/freesoftware related and otehrwise :).
>
>
> My initial thoughts are:
>
> 1. Have a basic installfest to give out live OS's to takeaway or
> install at the event.
>
> 2. We need a minimum of 3 luggers to help run the event, two to give
> out sticks and help with the install and an "expert" to help with any
> difficult problems if they occur.
Maybe I can get some people who contribute to or use Mageia that live in
the UK to join us, but that really is a maybe.
>
>
> 3. To keep potential for problems to a minimum, "customers" will be
> asked to bring H/W with either a blank HD or with with windows and
> some space to install Linux as a dual boot set up.
I think we should be ok with re sizing Windows and making new partitions
for a Linux distro out of the then made free space, as long as stuff
like that is done right, and people back up any data first onto say an
external hard disk of their own, and that we aren't responsible if
things go majorly wrong as well basically.

Also for most installs we should probably have a seperate /home really :).

Something to keep in mind our non technical target audience won't really
know about partitions if at all, they may know there is a C for
Windows, and maybe a D for data though as well, however they probably
won't know that those are partitions.
>
>
> 4. OS's/venue/date can be decided later depending on actual support
> for such an event.
>
> My own preferences are for a maximum of 3 OS's,
I think for the OS's Mageia 4, Ubuntu 13.10 and the Mint version based
on the Ubuntu release, or maybe the Debian based version of Mint
instead. Also for any computers that really can't run something more
modern or well enough may be a good idea to have distros specifically
made for old computers there as well such as Puppy Linux.

Mageia 4 should get released to the public for FOSDEM on 1st February
2014. With Ubuntu and the Ubuntu based version of Mint if having those
I think should make it clear to the people that have it installed that a
long term support release comes out in April for Ubuntu and probably
around then for the Ubuntu based Mint, that they can upgrade to, and
what one of those is, but also something about how to upgrade. As for
the Debian based version of Mint if going with that, should make it
clear to people I think that it's a rolling release and it basically
means have it installed, and should be able to have it updated with this
and that for a long time without problems before needing to re install
or switch to something else. However PC Linux OS for example is like
that to, and that was based on Mandrake back in 2003 etc, but gone more
in it's own direction since then, but that means it gets some of
Mageia's advantages to such as that nice graphical control centre :).

I should be able to come back with quite a lot of Live CD's and Mageia
stickers and flyers I guess to from FOSDEM :). As for Ubuntu well we
can probably get a load of official DVD's sent to us for an installfest
for FREE.

I think whatever distros we go for, we need some test computers there as
well with the distros set up and desktop environments etc :), so people
can try before having something installed. Also on the subject of
installs I think ideally they should be doing all the clicking and
typing them selves for the installer, but with assistance, not just
having it done for them by whoever is doing installs.

Also something to keep in mind when installing a distro with someone
should ideally show them how to get online support for it as well :),
but also be perfectly ok for example with them maybe coming to our LUG
meeting asking for help later on with it for example.

> a venue in Bristol (or even Bath!) that is easily reached by public
> transport, sometime before April 2014.
I think a venue in Bristol or outside Bristol, but near it, places such
as Filton or UWE. However with venues an issue can be cost, and the LUG
doesn't really have any money to rent a venue, unless people donate
money for this purpose. Also I don't think any of the distributors for
example will just give some money for the installfest even if installing
their distro at the event.

As for dates well not the weekend of 1st February obviously since FOSDEM
:), but I think a weekend in February or March. Maybe instead of just
one day we could have an installfest on two days as in the Saturday and
Sunday, rather than just say a Saturday. Personally I wouldn't really
want it to crash with our normal LUG meeting in February or the one in
March. However I think having it in the last weekend of March is a bit
to late. February is generally good or is it? I mean who are we going
to target an installfest to if going to have one. I thought it would be
the general public as in pretty much anyone, so that would also mean for
example parents who have kids, and well half term is in February, and
quite a lot of people go away then etc. As a result the half term
weekends may not be that good either really, depending on who our target
audience is. In fact half term or otherwise certain people will go away
in February to go skiing for example.

http://www.bristol.gov.uk/page/children-and-young-people/term-and-holiday-dates

http://www.southglos.gov.uk/Pages/Article%20Pages/Children%20Young%20People/Schools/Schools-term-and-holiday-dates.aspx#.UhvovJb2-so

Something else to think about is the idea of, oh we will decide a venue
later on close to the event, isn't really that good probably, because it
would be good to have a month or two at least, and I think more so at
least two months rather than just one, of marketing the event to the
general public with a set venue, dates, and times. Otherwise the day of
an installfest could come and well hardly anyone turns up to have an
install done, if anyone at all! Also on the subject of marketing the
event how are we going to do so really? Flyers, our LUG website, social
networking sites, etc, but what exactly?

I think with the venue dates we could do what this other group did (that
I am going to be joining soon properly) for an end of year meal.
Basically used something online for a poll with suggested dates, and
people put their name forward and said what dates they could and
couldn't do, then the one with the most votes became the date of the meal.
>
>
>
> Please keep this thread on topic, if you do want to discuss other
> relevant subjects could you amend the subject line for reference.
>
> Thanks
>
> Regards

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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 02:27:40 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Installfest ideas and discussion
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I forgot to mention in the other email that the mainstream media may
actually start mentioning how XP will go end of life and what that means
in say March or maybe even February for example and maybe even
January/December for that matter, getting people worried and thinking
they need to buy new computers or upgrade Windows etc. I think either
way we should ideally have the venue, date, and time, decided towards
the end of this year by the latest, and in the case of the venue
properly booked as well. Then can start marketing/promoting the
installfest in say January or December or maybe even November, as in a
installfest that happens in February or March :).
> I think a venue in Bristol or outside Bristol, but near it, places
> such as Filton or UWE. However with venues an issue can be cost, and
> the LUG doesn't really have any money to rent a venue, unless people
> donate money for this purpose. Also I don't think any of the
> distributors for example will just give some money for the installfest
> even if installing their distro at the event.
>
> As for dates well not the weekend of 1st February obviously since
> FOSDEM :), but I think a weekend in February or March. Maybe instead
> of just one day we could have an installfest on two days as in the
> Saturday and Sunday, rather than just say a Saturday. Personally I
> wouldn't really want it to crash with our normal LUG meeting in
> February or the one in March. However I think having it in the last
> weekend of March is a bit to late. February is generally good or is
> it? I mean who are we going to target an installfest to if going to
> have one. I thought it would be the general public as in pretty much
> anyone, so that would also mean for example parents who have kids, and
> well half term is in February, and quite a lot of people go away then
> etc. As a result the half term weekends may not be that good either
> really, depending on who our target audience is. In fact half term or
> otherwise certain people will go away in February to go skiing for
> example.
>
> http://www.bristol.gov.uk/page/children-and-young-people/term-and-holiday-dates
>
> http://www.southglos.gov.uk/Pages/Article%20Pages/Children%20Young%20People/Schools/Schools-term-and-holiday-dates.aspx#.UhvovJb2-so
>
> Something else to think about is the idea of, oh we will decide a
> venue later on close to the event, isn't really that good probably,
> because it would be good to have a month or two at least, and I think
> more so at least two months rather than just one, of marketing the
> event to the general public with a set venue, dates, and times.
> Otherwise the day of an installfest could come and well hardly anyone
> turns up to have an install done, if anyone at all! Also on the
> subject of marketing the event how are we going to do so really?
> Flyers, our LUG website, social networking sites, etc, but what exactly?
>
> I think with the venue dates we could do what this other group did
> (that I am going to be joining soon properly) for an end of year
> meal. Basically used something online for a poll with suggested
> dates, and people put their name forward and said what dates they
> could and couldn't do, then the one with the most votes became the
> date of the meal.
Going to be at a change of venue soon for that group :), since it starts
again soon, once the summer break is over (after that end of year meal
:)). A venue they tried out before, but I missed it then. Maybe a
venue that would be suitable for our installfest to, but one that would
have to be paid for it seems.

Sebastian



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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 09:38:18 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Installfest ideas and discussion
Message-ID: <521C657A.30204@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

This idea has been discussed for the last 3 months and there is general
support for an event.

I think the time for "open" discussions is now over and those actually
willing to organize an event should do it do it and come back to the
list occasionally to keep people informed of progress.

Three of us seem to have "volunteered" (Seb, Chris H and me) so, to
avoid duplication of effort, we need to get together/talk about exactly
what we intend to do off-list.

If there is at least one other person willing to help please let me know?

In advance of the above, I have already asked one local Linux company
if they have spare sticks and will be asking others, so if any members
have suggestions of likely companies willing to help/sponsor, please
let me know off-list?

I am also looking for venues in the centre of Bristol and will be
contacting Bristol Wireless/Hackspace to see if they have suitable
facilities available.

I have also looked at past events held by LUG's to avoid any pitfalls
and get details of the type of installs performed.

If anyone has particular tips from their experiences of such events
please let me know off-list.

Thanks

--
Peter H





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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 00:14:17 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Bristol Digest, Vol 513, Issue 10
Message-ID: <521A8FC9.1060907@gmx.com>
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I typed in reply to Simon's digest reply:
> By the way this is just a suggestion and with the reasoning behind it,
> but I think you should be subscribed to this mailing list using the
> other option, where your not using the digest and get the emails
> normally. When people reply from the digest they seem to send a load
> of digest stuff with it, (see below for what I mean), but also with a
> digest subject line starting a new thread, instead of using the thread
> that is being replied to.

Also what happens with the digest is that the emails come in on it,
after they have been sent and sometimes quite a lot of hours later.
Sometimes emails simply aren't really that relevant anymore if at all
really, once it's hours later, so that's one of the many reasons as to
why people using the digest may want to be subscribed to the mailing
list not using the digest in the other way instead.

To people using the digest by choice, why bother? Internet communication
is very much so about more instant communication in general now.

It's irrelevant really, but I guess what could happen with these digest
named thread's on mailing lists is someone could probably reply to the
digest and end up with the same subject as someone else who had already
replied on the mailing list using that subject, and that could confuse
things, who is replying to which email?

Sebastian



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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 16:08:15 +0100
From: sb <simon.buist@gmail.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Bristol Digest, Vol 513, Issue 10
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I had a great discussion or two with people there -- I look forward to
other events in the future :)

--
Simon


On 25 August 2013 13:00, <bristol-request@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:

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> 1. Saturday meeting (mike@atomserver.co.uk)
> 2. Re: Saturday meeting (Chris)
> 3. Re: Saturday meeting (Sebastian)
> 4. Re: August 2013 BBLUG meeting this Saturday 24th :) (Sebastian)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 13:17:23 +0100
> From: mike@atomserver.co.uk
> To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> Subject: [bristol] Saturday meeting
> Message-ID: <cad4e17dd27021fa8a9a75390224d8e8@atomserver.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Hi!
>
> I am new here. My name is Mike. I would like to attend your meeting. I
> am already in the place. Could you tell me where I can find you?
>
> Cheers
> Mike
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 13:33:42 +0100
> From: Chris <cshorler@googlemail.com>
> To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Saturday meeting
> Message-ID: <9fedaa3c-e2eb-43e7-b6d5-8406947985e3@email.android.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> mike@atomserver.co.uk wrote:
> >Hi!
> >
> >I am new here. My name is Mike. I would like to attend your meeting. I
> >am already in the place. Could you tell me where I can find you?
> >
> >Cheers
> >Mike
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Bristol mailing list
> >Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> >https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
>
> I've just arrived, grabbing a cup of tea... Where are you? I didn't notice
> any familiar faces yet!
> Chris
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 00:01:14 +0100
> From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
> To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
> mike@atomserver.co.uk, Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Saturday meeting
> Message-ID: <52193B3A.80705@gmx.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> On 24/08/13 13:17, mike@atomserver.co.uk wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > I am new here. My name is Mike. I would like to attend your meeting. I
> > am already in the place. Could you tell me where I can find you?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Mike
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Bristol mailing list
> > Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
> Hi
>
> Did you find us ok or not in the end? We had quite a few people ;),
> including some new, and I am not sure who came exactly.
>
> Sebastian
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 02:01:53 +0100
> From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
> To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
> Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
> Subject: Re: [bristol] August 2013 BBLUG meeting this Saturday 24th :)
> Message-ID: <52195781.3080308@gmx.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Below I am using the message I originally sent out on the mailing list
> to do a meeting review type thing etc:
>
> On 19/08/13 21:40, Sebastian wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > It's nearly that time again :) for another BBLUG meeting :) this
> > Saturday the 24th :). However this time round it's the August one,
> > and I thought it was quite good last year, because of interesting
> > visitors :).
> Oh, but I thought it was much better this year :).
> > I hope there will be a good turn out for this years :) of at least
> > five people other than myself.
> Realistically I thought only about five other people would turn up, but
> what actually happened well, was quite the opposite :). Also really
> whilst travlilng there, I thought that maybe no one would be there once
> I turned up.
> > However the big question is: Who is planning on being there other than
> > myself? :)
> Many people are secret and don't just say on the mailing list that they
> are coming or so it seems, and that can depend, but that adds to the
> mystery of who is really going to be at the LUG meeting or not.
> >
> >
> > I am hoping to meet more than just regulars this Saturday with also
> > hopefully some people who don't tend to come often :), and ideally
> > hopefully some new people as well :).
> Well I got exactly what I was hoping for that's for sure :), with a turn
> out of 12 of us including myself (unless the count was wrong), and I
> belive it was four new people this time, maybe five :). However this was
> also a mixture of regular people and also people who don't seem to come
> that often :), so a very good turn out indeed I think :). A turn out of
> 12 is more than most of the recent meetings for a long time! In fact 12
> is probably the most that has been there including myself, since I
> started going to them last year. except for maybe one time with more for
> example or something like that.
> >
> >
> > Apparently we got about 200 or so lurkers on this mailing list, but if
> > you are a lurker or someone who is mainly a lurker on this mailing
> > list, why not come join us this Saturday for the LUG meeting? If you
> > are otherwise anyway going to be in Bristol or the surrounding area
> > and can make it? :)
> Well that one is over now, so what I put before then, but for next
> month's Saturday September 28th :).
> >
> > We also welcome new people to the meeting's, so no need to feel that
> > you are too new to come, if you only joined this mailing list quite
> > recently for example.
> >
> > We have a mixture of people of different ages as well, from 20's
> > onwards basically at the moment.
> >
> > We meet up between 12:30pm/1pm to about 4/5pm at the Knights Templar
> > pub near Temple Meads train station, which also isn't that far away
> > from the city centre. People turn up when they turn up and leave when
> > they leave. Usually at least someone is there about 1pm, and people
> > tend to leave around 4pm, but depending on what happens it may be
> > about 5pm or later instead.
> >
> > http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/pubs/the-knights-templar
> >
> > We sit on the lower level at the back when entering the pub, and
> > usually in the left corner by the plugs, and if not there very near
> > there instead.
> >
> > Food, drinks, chatting :), people with their laptops etc, with FREE
> > pub wifi available for those that would like it, but also sometimes
> > showing of Linux/tech related things that people have bought along
> > with them :) that will probably be of interest to other people that
> > are there :). It may be called a Linux user group meeting, but it
> > doesn't mean we just chat Linux or opensource/freesoftware in general
> > all the time, other things get talked about as well, and the meetings
> > are informal. What is talked about really depends on who is there etc.
> >
> > I hope to meet more of you this Saturday :).
> I hope to meet more of you at next month's meeting on Saturday September
> 28th :).
> >
> >
> > Sebastian
>
> Sebastian
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 23:43:46 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Bristol Digest, Vol 513, Issue 10
Message-ID: <521A88A2.9040402@gmx.com>
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On 25/08/13 16:08, sb wrote:
> I had a great discussion or two with people there -- I look forward to
> other events in the future :)
Ok awesome :), and I assume you were the guy with the notepad.

By the way this is just a suggestion and with the reasoning behind it,
but I think you should be subscribed to this mailing list using the
other option, where your not using the digest and get the emails
normally. When people reply from the digest they seem to send a load of
digest stuff with it, (see below for what I mean), but also with a
digest subject line starting a new thread, instead of using the thread
that is being replied to.

Also I hope you will be at the next month's LUG meeting on Saturday
September 28th :) and at other future ones as well :).
>
> --
> Simon
>
>
> On 25 August 2013 13:00, <bristol-request@mailman.lug.org.uk
> <mailto:bristol-request@mailman.lug.org.uk>> wrote:
>
> Send Bristol mailing list submissions to
> bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
>
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> bristol-request@mailman.lug.org.uk
> <mailto:bristol-request@mailman.lug.org.uk>
>
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> <mailto:bristol-owner@mailman.lug.org.uk>
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of Bristol digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Saturday meeting (mike@atomserver.co.uk
> <mailto:mike@atomserver.co.uk>)
> 2. Re: Saturday meeting (Chris)
> 3. Re: Saturday meeting (Sebastian)
> 4. Re: August 2013 BBLUG meeting this Saturday 24th :) (Sebastian)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 13:17:23 +0100
> From: mike@atomserver.co.uk <mailto:mike@atomserver.co.uk>
> To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: [bristol] Saturday meeting
> Message-ID: <cad4e17dd27021fa8a9a75390224d8e8@atomserver.co.uk
> <mailto:cad4e17dd27021fa8a9a75390224d8e8@atomserver.co.uk>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Hi!
>
> I am new here. My name is Mike. I would like to attend your meeting. I
> am already in the place. Could you tell me where I can find you?
>
> Cheers
> Mike
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 13:33:42 +0100
> From: Chris <cshorler@googlemail.com <mailto:cshorler@googlemail.com>>
> To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> <mailto:bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>>
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Saturday meeting
> Message-ID:
> <9fedaa3c-e2eb-43e7-b6d5-8406947985e3@email.android.com
> <mailto:9fedaa3c-e2eb-43e7-b6d5-8406947985e3@email.android.com>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> mike@atomserver.co.uk <mailto:mike@atomserver.co.uk> wrote:
> >Hi!
> >
> >I am new here. My name is Mike. I would like to attend your
> meeting. I
> >am already in the place. Could you tell me where I can find you?
> >
> >Cheers
> >Mike
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Bristol mailing list
> >Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> >https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
>
> I've just arrived, grabbing a cup of tea... Where are you? I
> didn't notice any familiar faces yet!
> Chris
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 00:01:14 +0100
> From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com
> <mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>>
> To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> <mailto:bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>>,
> mike@atomserver.co.uk <mailto:mike@atomserver.co.uk>, Sebastian
> <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com <mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>>
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Saturday meeting
> Message-ID: <52193B3A.80705@gmx.com <mailto:52193B3A.80705@gmx.com>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> On 24/08/13 13:17, mike@atomserver.co.uk
> <mailto:mike@atomserver.co.uk> wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > I am new here. My name is Mike. I would like to attend your
> meeting. I
> > am already in the place. Could you tell me where I can find you?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Mike
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Bristol mailing list
> > Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
> Hi
>
> Did you find us ok or not in the end? We had quite a few people ;),
> including some new, and I am not sure who came exactly.
>
> Sebastian
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 02:01:53 +0100
> From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com
> <mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>>
> To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> <mailto:bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>>,
> Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com
> <mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>>
> Subject: Re: [bristol] August 2013 BBLUG meeting this Saturday 24th :)
> Message-ID: <52195781.3080308@gmx.com
> <mailto:52195781.3080308@gmx.com>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Below I am using the message I originally sent out on the mailing list
> to do a meeting review type thing etc:
>
> On 19/08/13 21:40, Sebastian wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > It's nearly that time again :) for another BBLUG meeting :) this
> > Saturday the 24th :). However this time round it's the August one,
> > and I thought it was quite good last year, because of interesting
> > visitors :).
> Oh, but I thought it was much better this year :).
> > I hope there will be a good turn out for this years :) of at least
> > five people other than myself.
> Realistically I thought only about five other people would turn
> up, but
> what actually happened well, was quite the opposite :). Also really
> whilst travlilng there, I thought that maybe no one would be there
> once
> I turned up.
> > However the big question is: Who is planning on being there
> other than
> > myself? :)
> Many people are secret and don't just say on the mailing list that
> they
> are coming or so it seems, and that can depend, but that adds to the
> mystery of who is really going to be at the LUG meeting or not.
> >
> >
> > I am hoping to meet more than just regulars this Saturday with also
> > hopefully some people who don't tend to come often :), and ideally
> > hopefully some new people as well :).
> Well I got exactly what I was hoping for that's for sure :), with
> a turn
> out of 12 of us including myself (unless the count was wrong), and I
> belive it was four new people this time, maybe five :). However
> this was
> also a mixture of regular people and also people who don't seem to
> come
> that often :), so a very good turn out indeed I think :). A turn
> out of
> 12 is more than most of the recent meetings for a long time! In
> fact 12
> is probably the most that has been there including myself, since I
> started going to them last year. except for maybe one time with
> more for
> example or something like that.
> >
> >
> > Apparently we got about 200 or so lurkers on this mailing list,
> but if
> > you are a lurker or someone who is mainly a lurker on this mailing
> > list, why not come join us this Saturday for the LUG meeting? If you
> > are otherwise anyway going to be in Bristol or the surrounding area
> > and can make it? :)
> Well that one is over now, so what I put before then, but for next
> month's Saturday September 28th :).
> >
> > We also welcome new people to the meeting's, so no need to feel that
> > you are too new to come, if you only joined this mailing list quite
> > recently for example.
> >
> > We have a mixture of people of different ages as well, from 20's
> > onwards basically at the moment.
> >
> > We meet up between 12:30pm/1pm to about 4/5pm at the Knights Templar
> > pub near Temple Meads train station, which also isn't that far away
> > from the city centre. People turn up when they turn up and
> leave when
> > they leave. Usually at least someone is there about 1pm, and
> people
> > tend to leave around 4pm, but depending on what happens it may be
> > about 5pm or later instead.
> >
> > http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/pubs/the-knights-templar
> >
> > We sit on the lower level at the back when entering the pub, and
> > usually in the left corner by the plugs, and if not there very near
> > there instead.
> >
> > Food, drinks, chatting :), people with their laptops etc, with FREE
> > pub wifi available for those that would like it, but also sometimes
> > showing of Linux/tech related things that people have bought along
> > with them :) that will probably be of interest to other people that
> > are there :). It may be called a Linux user group meeting, but it
> > doesn't mean we just chat Linux or opensource/freesoftware in
> general
> > all the time, other things get talked about as well, and the
> meetings
> > are informal. What is talked about really depends on who is
> there etc.
> >
> > I hope to meet more of you this Saturday :).
> I hope to meet more of you at next month's meeting on Saturday
> September
> 28th :).
> >
> >
> > Sebastian
>
> Sebastian
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bristol mailing list
> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
>
> End of Bristol Digest, Vol 513, Issue 10
> ****************************************
>
>
>
>
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1. Saturday meeting (mike@atomserver.co.uk)
2. Re: Saturday meeting (Chris)
3. Re: Saturday meeting (Sebastian)
4. Re: August 2013 BBLUG meeting this Saturday 24th :) (Sebastian)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 13:17:23 +0100
From: mike@atomserver.co.uk
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: [bristol] Saturday meeting
Message-ID: <cad4e17dd27021fa8a9a75390224d8e8@atomserver.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

Hi!

I am new here. My name is Mike. I would like to attend your meeting. I
am already in the place. Could you tell me where I can find you?

Cheers
Mike



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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 13:33:42 +0100
From: Chris <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Saturday meeting
Message-ID: <9fedaa3c-e2eb-43e7-b6d5-8406947985e3@email.android.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

mike@atomserver.co.uk wrote:
>Hi!
>
>I am new here. My name is Mike. I would like to attend your meeting. I
>am already in the place. Could you tell me where I can find you?
>
>Cheers
>Mike
>
>_______________________________________________
>Bristol mailing list
>Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
>https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol

I've just arrived, grabbing a cup of tea... Where are you? I didn't notice any familiar faces yet!
Chris



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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 00:01:14 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
mike@atomserver.co.uk, Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Saturday meeting
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On 24/08/13 13:17, mike@atomserver.co.uk wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I am new here. My name is Mike. I would like to attend your meeting. I
> am already in the place. Could you tell me where I can find you?
>
> Cheers
> Mike
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Hi

Did you find us ok or not in the end? We had quite a few people ;),
including some new, and I am not sure who came exactly.

Sebastian



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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 02:01:53 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] August 2013 BBLUG meeting this Saturday 24th :)
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Below I am using the message I originally sent out on the mailing list
to do a meeting review type thing etc:

On 19/08/13 21:40, Sebastian wrote:
> Hi
>
> It's nearly that time again :) for another BBLUG meeting :) this
> Saturday the 24th :). However this time round it's the August one,
> and I thought it was quite good last year, because of interesting
> visitors :).
Oh, but I thought it was much better this year :).
> I hope there will be a good turn out for this years :) of at least
> five people other than myself.
Realistically I thought only about five other people would turn up, but
what actually happened well, was quite the opposite :). Also really
whilst travlilng there, I thought that maybe no one would be there once
I turned up.
> However the big question is: Who is planning on being there other than
> myself? :)
Many people are secret and don't just say on the mailing list that they
are coming or so it seems, and that can depend, but that adds to the
mystery of who is really going to be at the LUG meeting or not.
>
>
> I am hoping to meet more than just regulars this Saturday with also
> hopefully some people who don't tend to come often :), and ideally
> hopefully some new people as well :).
Well I got exactly what I was hoping for that's for sure :), with a turn
out of 12 of us including myself (unless the count was wrong), and I
belive it was four new people this time, maybe five :). However this was
also a mixture of regular people and also people who don't seem to come
that often :), so a very good turn out indeed I think :). A turn out of
12 is more than most of the recent meetings for a long time! In fact 12
is probably the most that has been there including myself, since I
started going to them last year. except for maybe one time with more for
example or something like that.
>
>
> Apparently we got about 200 or so lurkers on this mailing list, but if
> you are a lurker or someone who is mainly a lurker on this mailing
> list, why not come join us this Saturday for the LUG meeting? If you
> are otherwise anyway going to be in Bristol or the surrounding area
> and can make it? :)
Well that one is over now, so what I put before then, but for next
month's Saturday September 28th :).
>
> We also welcome new people to the meeting's, so no need to feel that
> you are too new to come, if you only joined this mailing list quite
> recently for example.
>
> We have a mixture of people of different ages as well, from 20's
> onwards basically at the moment.
>
> We meet up between 12:30pm/1pm to about 4/5pm at the Knights Templar
> pub near Temple Meads train station, which also isn't that far away
> from the city centre. People turn up when they turn up and leave when
> they leave. Usually at least someone is there about 1pm, and people
> tend to leave around 4pm, but depending on what happens it may be
> about 5pm or later instead.
>
> http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/pubs/the-knights-templar
>
> We sit on the lower level at the back when entering the pub, and
> usually in the left corner by the plugs, and if not there very near
> there instead.
>
> Food, drinks, chatting :), people with their laptops etc, with FREE
> pub wifi available for those that would like it, but also sometimes
> showing of Linux/tech related things that people have bought along
> with them :) that will probably be of interest to other people that
> are there :). It may be called a Linux user group meeting, but it
> doesn't mean we just chat Linux or opensource/freesoftware in general
> all the time, other things get talked about as well, and the meetings
> are informal. What is talked about really depends on who is there etc.
>
> I hope to meet more of you this Saturday :).
I hope to meet more of you at next month's meeting on Saturday September
28th :).
>
>
> Sebastian

Sebastian



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Today's Topics:

1. BBLUG meeting (Chris Simmons)
2. Re: BBLUG meeting (Sebastian)
3. Re: Easyjet booking website (Tim Wintle)
4. 30 USB Sticks By The End Of November!? (Peter Hemmings)
5. Re: Easyjet booking website (Christopher Horler)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:40:06 +0100
From: Chris Simmons <cityofbristol@gmail.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: [bristol] BBLUG meeting
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Sorry, but I can't make it tomorrow, I'd forgotten an archery tournament
I'm booked for. As a side issue on bank holiday Monday, we're running a
have-a-go archery afternoon zt the Whitchurch village fare if anyone is
interexted - damn Galaxy on-screen keyboards.
Chris
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 19:03:44 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] BBLUG meeting
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On 23/08/13 18:40, Chris Simmons wrote:
>
> Sorry, but I can't make it tomorrow, I'd forgotten an archery
> tournament I'm booked for.
>
I think quite a lot of people would pick archery instead of a LUG
meeting, and not just you :d. No problem and enjoy :). However I hope
to meet you at the Saturday September 28th meeting :).

On the subject of sports though, there's this premier league game on
tomorrow that will crash with some/all of the LUG meeting, that I won't
be watching Live, because of going to the LUG meeting :). So I hope
other's won't miss the LUG meeting, because of that :). Whoops now I
might have given some of you a reason to miss the LUG meeting :d.



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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 07:54:57 +0100
From: Tim Wintle <timwintle@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Easyjet booking website
Message-ID: <1377327297.19419.1.camel@tim-desktop>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 20:06 +0100, Christopher Horler wrote:
> Just booked a flight for next year... suffered a regrettably annoying
> affair of being repetitively informed my credit card number was not a
> number (it was). It seems this is a known issue with Firefox / Linux.
>
> Anyway when trying again with js console logging turned on and having
> a quick look at the page structure... it worked (no tweaking on my
> part). When the screen navigation took me away from the page the log
> disappeared - is it on disk anywhere? (I'd be curious to interrogate
> it).

I don't believe so (if you do find it I'd love to know).

My hack around this in the past has been to add a listener to the
"beforeunload" event, and then set a breakpoint in there.

Tim





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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 10:25:12 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: [bristol] 30 USB Sticks By The End Of November!?
Message-ID: <52187BF8.7040307@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
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Hi,

If there is some form of installfest in 2014 I think we need some H/W to
give out.

If I can get hold of at least 30 (2 to 4GB) sticks, we could have the
basics for an event. So if anyone wants to donate old stick(s) I hope
to be at the KT for the next couple of meetings.

If you have problems attending and are a "source" for more than 5 sticks
then let me know and I will try to collect them, but will be unable to
travel to other countries including Sweden!

My initial thoughts are:

1. Have a basic installfest to give out live OS's to takeaway or
install at the event.

2. We need a minimum of 3 luggers to help run the event, two to give
out sticks and help with the install and an "expert" to help with any
difficult problems if they occur.

3. To keep potential for problems to a minimum, "customers" will be
asked to bring H/W with either a blank HD or with with windows and some
space to install Linux as a dual boot set up.

4. OS's/venue/date can be decided later depending on actual support for
such an event.

My own preferences are for a maximum of 3 OS's, a venue in Bristol (or
even Bath!) that is easily reached by public transport, sometime before
April 2014.


Please keep this thread on topic, if you do want to discuss other
relevant subjects could you amend the subject line for reference.

Thanks

Regards
--
Peter H



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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 11:15:53 +0100
From: Christopher Horler <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Easyjet booking website
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On 24 August 2013 07:54, Tim Wintle <timwintle@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 20:06 +0100, Christopher Horler wrote:
>> Just booked a flight for next year... suffered a regrettably annoying
>> affair of being repetitively informed my credit card number was not a
>> number (it was). It seems this is a known issue with Firefox / Linux.
>>
>> Anyway when trying again with js console logging turned on and having
>> a quick look at the page structure... it worked (no tweaking on my
>> part). When the screen navigation took me away from the page the log
>> disappeared - is it on disk anywhere? (I'd be curious to interrogate
>> it).
>
> I don't believe so (if you do find it I'd love to know).
>
> My hack around this in the past has been to add a listener to the
> "beforeunload" event, and then set a breakpoint in there.
>
Thanks Tim, that seems to work - will use it next time.

I straced both with and without Firebug as well today (nothing stuck
out as being interesting though).

Chris



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2. Re: Ubuntu Edge (Ian Plain)
3. Re: Ubuntu Edge (Keith Edmunds)
4. Re: Ubuntu Edge (Sebastian)
5. Easyjet booking website (Christopher Horler)
6. Re: Easyjet booking website (Sebastian)
7. Re: Easyjet booking website (Christopher Horler)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:20:08 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Ubuntu Edge
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Ubuntu Edge will not get made! $12,812,776 of the $32 million dollar
goal raised.

Here's the link to a blog post about the failure:

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/ubuntu-edge-fails-to-meet-mutli-million-dollar-goal-wont-be-made



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:25:30 +0100
From: Ian Plain <ian@cyber-cottage.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Ubuntu Edge
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Have a read of
http://mobile.eweek.com/blogs/first-read/is-android-really-open-source.html if
you think android doesn't have proprietary elements

On Wednesday, August 14, 2013, MJ Ray wrote:

> On 02/08/13 20:04, Sebastian wrote:
> > I assume at least some of you already know about Ubuntu Edge. Woudn't
> > that be quite a awesome phone if people actsualy get it? I mean they
> > have set a big amount of money and unless they reach that amount, people
> > won't even get it. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
> > [...] What are your thoughts about Ubuntu Edge of interest?
>
> "Although the Ubuntu Edge has been record-breaking in its crowdfunding
> efforts, the fundraising campaign will fall well short of its 32 million
> dollar target."
> http://www.openanalytics.eu/blog/crowdfunding-ubuntu-edge-will-fail
>
> "This projection puts the Ubuntu Edge campaign on pace for a $18 million
> total."
>
> http://www.openanalytics.eu/blog/using-kickstarter-data-predict-ubuntu-edges-success
>
> And as far as I can tell, it's now even below that ($10m on 14 Aug) and
> will more likely end at $14m if it keeps this pace up.
>
> With such a high target, is this more than just advertising for
> locked-down network-supplied Ubuntu phones?
>
> Personally, I'm using an unlocked CM10 phone without the Google Android
> apps and it's pretty close to what I want, given it's a mainstream
> phone. I'd fear Ubuntu Edge would include some bits that are
> proprietary or spyware or both and I noticed nothing to contradict that
> on the fundraising page, so I don't see a huge benefit to switching.
>
> Regards,
> --
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 19:12:38 +0100
From: Keith Edmunds <kae@midnighthax.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Ubuntu Edge
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:20:08 +0100, sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com said:

> Here's the link to a blog post about the failure:

It wasn't a failure: it's received enormous publicity (which, I suspect,
was the aim all along).
--
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone
who will never be able to repay you."



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 19:29:17 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Ubuntu Edge
Message-ID: <5216587D.8060603@gmx.com>
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On 22/08/13 19:12, Keith Edmunds wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:20:08 +0100, sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com said:
>
>> Here's the link to a blog post about the failure:
> It wasn't a failure: it's received enormous publicity (which, I suspect,
> was the aim all along).
Failure to reach the goal yes, but also failure in quite a lot of other
ways no. I think you'll like what Jono Bacon the Ubuntu Community
Manager had to say about it in his blog post etc:
http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/08/22/onwards-and-upwards-2/



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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:06:54 +0100
From: Christopher Horler <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Easyjet booking website
Message-ID:
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Just booked a flight for next year... suffered a regrettably annoying
affair of being repetitively informed my credit card number was not a
number (it was). It seems this is a known issue with Firefox / Linux.

Anyway when trying again with js console logging turned on and having
a quick look at the page structure... it worked (no tweaking on my
part). When the screen navigation took me away from the page the log
disappeared - is it on disk anywhere? (I'd be curious to interrogate
it).

I grep'ed my FF profile directory and /tmp but found nothing.

Ideas?

(I'd rather not buy a second ticket!)

Thanks,
Chris



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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:39:33 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Easyjet booking website
Message-ID: <521668F5.4000502@gmx.com>
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On 22/08/13 20:06, Christopher Horler wrote:
> Just booked a flight for next year
A flight to where and why of interest?



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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 21:35:07 +0100
From: Christopher Horler <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Easyjet booking website
Message-ID:
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On 22 August 2013 20:39, Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com> wrote:
> On 22/08/13 20:06, Christopher Horler wrote:
>>
>> Just booked a flight for next year
>
> A flight to where and why of interest?
>

Where... hardly relevant, but I'm going skiing / on holiday :-)

Why? - Curiosity (don't you ever take things to pieces to learn how
they work?!)

I'm wondering if the original error was caused by a Javascrpt error
message I saw (briefly in the console) - a script was being denied
access to the document object. The Javascript validator uses the
document object to retrieve another element's text to validate the
input into a form (assumption after reading the page / js source). I
retrieved the object in the console and the second attempt worked (I
cannot remember if I reloaded the page prior to it working or not,
which doesn't help).

Reiterating... The problem is I can't remember the full error message
- so I wanted a log file so I could review it, though every indication
is that Easyjet probably aren't interested in fixing any problem
(searching the internet briefly leads me to this conclusion... it may
not be accurate).



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