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Bristol Digest, Vol 674, Issue 2

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: FOSDEM 2017 (David Smith)
2. Re: FOSDEM 2017 (Sebastian)
3. Re: Fwd: Last LUG Meeting of 2016 this Saturday! Tommorow!
(Sebastian)
4. Event Organisers and Helpers Wanted for LPD 2017.1 (Sebastian)
5. Re: FOSDEM 2017 (David Smith)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 14:23:14 +0000
From: David Smith <David.Smith@imgtec.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] FOSDEM 2017
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bristol [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of
> Sebastian via Bristol
>
> The Eurostar is cheaper, and not the first time people have been like, from
> the UK, your going to Brussels why not on the Eurostar. However here's how
> I see it, we are down here in this area, so to go by Eurostar first you got to
> get to London, well actually past London, Dover? That's over two hours
> travelling already! With a plane can leave at a nicer time for a later flight, and
> waiting around a bit in less busy airports such as Bristol, doesn't bother me at
> all, usually better not on own though.

Not Dover - Bristol Temple Meads/Parkway to Paddington, Paddington to St Pancras on the tube (Circle/Hammersmith&City), St Pancras to Brussels on Eurostar.

My experience was that, to Grenoble, the journey time was similar once you factor in the fact that I'm on completely the wrong side of Bristol for the airport so it's a minimum 1/2 hr journey time (compared to a quick hop to Parkway station), the extra time in the airports (you don't have to check in an hour or more before departure for a train), waiting at baggage reclaim, sorting out a hire car at the other end, then 2-3 hours of driving to get from Geneva to Grenoble (no direct flights outside of ski season). Both of them worked out at about 8 hours.

> Flying from Brussels from down here only takes about an hour and ten
> minutes, only about 45 minutes from Heathrow as well (done that before as
> well), way quicker to fly. With a train may have to wait around in train
> stations as well, or for trains that are delayed, etc. Plus it's eaiser
> to travel with an extra bag via planes, since that's one of the first things that
> is done, getting rid of that extra bag :).

I'd go the other way around - you don't have the 100 ml restrictions for hand baggage, plus no waiting at baggage reclaim at the other end - just walk out with all your stuff.

Well, it was just a suggestion.

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 22:54:13 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] FOSDEM 2017
Message-ID: <7c72ffcc-4c7d-46e0-9ce9-2c074414bb17@gmx.com>
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On Wednesday, 21 December 2016 14:23:14 GMT, David Smith via Bristol
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bristol [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of
>> Sebastian via Bristol
>>
>> The Eurostar is cheaper, and not the first time people have
>> been like, from
>> the UK, your going to Brussels why not on the Eurostar.
>> However here's how
>> I see it, we are down here in this area, so to go by Eurostar
>> first you got to
>> get to London, well actually past London, Dover? That's over two hours
>> travelling already! With a plane can leave at a nicer time
>> for a later flight, and
>> waiting around a bit in less busy airports such as Bristol,
>> doesn't bother me at
>> all, usually better not on own though.
>
> Not Dover - Bristol Temple Meads/Parkway to Paddington,
> Paddington to St Pancras on the tube (Circle/Hammersmith&City),
> St Pancras to Brussels on Eurostar.

Oh ok haven't made that journey, and many years ago since going in a car
with my family on the Eurostar to France. Or from Dover over to France or
Belgium via the ferrys even.

>
> My experience was that, to Grenoble, the journey time was
> similar once you factor in the fact that I'm on completely the
> wrong side of Bristol for the airport so it's a minimum 1/2 hr
> journey time (compared to a quick hop to Parkway station),

I am about an hour maybe about 45 minutes depending on traffic, from that
air port, via car or taxi, so not that near as well. Bristol Parkway is
about half an hour in a car/taxi or on a particular bus that doesn't go
that often, so not near as well in a way.

the
> extra time in the airports (you don't have to check in an hour
> or more before departure for a train), waiting at baggage
> reclaim,

No, but trains can get delayed or missed, resulting in having to wait
longer at the train station

sorting out a hire car at the other end, then 2-3 hours
> of driving to get from Geneva to Grenoble (no direct flights
> outside of ski season).
If going to Brussels or Geneva or some where like that and via car, then
surely its better really to go all the way via car, and the Eurostar or
ferryr?
Both of them worked out at about 8
> hours.
>
>> Flying from Brussels from down here only takes about an hour and ten
>> minutes, only about 45 minutes from Heathrow as well (done
>> that before as
>> well), way quicker to fly. With a train may have to wait
>> around in train
>> stations as well, or for trains that are delayed, etc. Plus it's eaiser
>> to travel with an extra bag via planes, since that's one of
>> the first things that
>> is done, getting rid of that extra bag :).
>
> I'd go the other way around - you don't have the 100 ml
> restrictions for hand baggage, plus no waiting at baggage
> reclaim at the other end - just walk out with all your stuff.
>
> Well, it was just a suggestion.

That's ok to suggest, and if this email comes up with the wrong to name,
it's since a email client issue.


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 23:24:57 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Fwd: Last LUG Meeting of 2016 this Saturday!
Tommorow!
Message-ID: <f39f62ad-40f2-4a0d-bbc2-0f41df71add6@gmx.com>
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On Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:16:47 GMT, peternsomerset--- via Bristol
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>
> Yes I was there!
> A small but intelligent group turned up late!

Yeah something like that, but not quite, only four of us were there
including us two, hopefully quite a few more people next month :).

> Happy Christmas☺
> --
> Sent from myMail for Android Saturday, 17 December 2016,
> 02:58pm +00:00 from Samir Benmendil via Bristol
> bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk :
>
>>
>>
>>Anyone there already? Couldn't find anyone.
>>
>> On Friday, 16 December 2016, Sebastian via Bristol <
>> bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk > wrote:
>>>Hi
>>>
>>> WOW what a great turn out, WOW, WOW, indeed, what a great
>>> turn out, for last months November LUG meeting. I remember
>>> emailing here on the list about how it would be basically good
>>> to have a 10 people turn out, and we had like 11, including
>>> ourselves people who turned up Three from the event the
>>> previous month it seems as well, well ok two don't really
>>> count I guess then since were already on the mailing list
>>> apparnatly, but still one guy did come in from the event.
>>> That was good, after running the event and the type of event
>>> it was, and general turn out it ended up getting, and of what
>>> kind of people. The big question would be though, can we
>>> have a about 10 people turn out at the LUG meeting tommorow as
>>> well or not? 10 people turn out is rather impressive, since
>>> a lot of people don't come to the meetings anymore or rather
>>> rarely, that are still on this list. Its not just, because
>>> quite a few people have moved away from the general, big area
>>> of, Bristol, Bath, and sourunding areas. Yes our LUG may be
>>> mostly social chat now for the meetings, rather than helping
>>> people with basic to advanced support issues, but thats
>>> since Desktop Linux is generally much easier to use now for
>>> most distros, than it used to be, and its been like that for
>>> many years now.. I been to the LUG meetings since I think it
>>> was April 2012 I think last month was the biggest turn out
>>> of people that have ever had it in that time, whilst I have
>>> been there, or if not for quite a while.
>>> I would like to meet some of the people who used to come to
>>> the LUG meetings a lot this Saturday ideally, but I think to
>>> keep the in person side of this LUG nicely alive, with good
>>> turn outs of people for most LUG meetings etc, its good now to
>>> do things at times that will hopefuly bring new people into
>>> them, such as events. Next year 2017 should have three events
>>> it seems, two Linux Presentaiton Day events, and one bigger
>>> event organised by someone else as well it seems, with public
>>> speaking even. Which would be quite impressive right?
>>>
>>> Tommorow is the Christmas meeting at the Knight's Templar
>>> hence a week earlier than usual as well, we should be sitting
>>> at the table in the left hand side corner by the plugs at the
>>> back of the pub on the lower level as usuaul, or near there
>>> instead if someone else not us is already there. The first
>>> one of us will probably arrive at about 2pm, but for anyone
>>> who may be new that might be coming tommorow I would suggest
>>> not turning up untill 2:30pm by the earliest, or may be there
>>> on own. As usaul I hope to meet new people at the LUG
>>> meeting, and I probably won't be there untill about 3pm
>>> myself, and then laving late about 6pm/7pm. What about other
>>> people who are intending on coming tommorow? We can eat
>>> Christmas dinner there tommorow as well, already had some last
>>> month, but will again ;). Also I been wondering about Samir
>>> and what plan he actusally booked for FOSDEM, and if our newer
>>> person from the event, who is hopefuly on this list now, is
>>> intending on coming still or not as well.
>>>
>>> Anyone got some USB's to bring along tommorow? Yes Linux
>>> Live USB's! Ideally of more fun distros to so not just common
>>> things like Fedora and OpenSUSE, and Ubuntu 16.10, but yes
>>> please someone bring those along to. Oh and the USB's I am
>>> after must have support for UEFI. I guess the USB's don't
>>> have to be Linux though. You see I have bought a interesting
>>> mini PC, that was going to crowd fund earlier this the year,
>>> but didn't reallly have the spare money then. The pre
>>> installed Windows 10 didn't last that long on there at all,
>>> more details about that at the LUG meeting tommorow. I had a
>>> USB stick with Ubuntu 16.04 on it, so put that on. Ubuntu
>>> 16.04 mostly works on it, altough with some hardware issues,
>>> because of how the device was only really intended to be made
>>> for Windows 10, but considering that and how much still just
>>> works, that's quite good really. For a few things can
>>> probably fix onself though. More details tommorow at the LUG
>>> meeting.
>>>
>>>2016 Regards
>>>
>>>Sebastian
>>>
>>>
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>>--
>>Samir Benmendil
>>
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>>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 23:55:41 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: [bristol] Event Organisers and Helpers Wanted for LPD 2017.1
Message-ID: <c9127f59-8eaf-4a8e-8e46-9ce9b0453af7@gmx.com>
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Hi

As mentioned to this mailiing list before the plan is to have another two
events next year in Bristol for Linux Presentation Day (
http://linux-presentation-day.org http://linux-presentation-day.org.uk ).
I have one confirmed other organiser so far, or so it seems, but not sure
about anyone else, and if you would like to help organise or just on the
day or mostly, etc, and in what kind of ways you would like to help with
the event as well. Please get back to me properly on list or off list, as
soon as possible, if you are interested. Then we may even have a
organisers/helpers meeting next month before the LUG meeting even, with the
event itself in late April probably on the 29th. Please read previous
email from last week to this mailing list for more general event
information. Our mailing list also gets archieved.

Best Regards

Sebastian

P.S

If the email to name is wrong, its since a email client issue.


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 09:52:51 +0000
From: David Smith <David.Smith@imgtec.com>
To: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>, Bristol and Bath Linux User
Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] FOSDEM 2017
Message-ID:
<15A9D35B5490FC49AC0524AE3A085F082FCB58E9@HHMAIL01.hh.imgtec.org>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bristol [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of
> Sebastian via Bristol
> If going to Brussels or Geneva or some where like that and via car, then
> surely its better really to go all the way via car, and the Eurostar or ferryr?

No, unless you're taking a car-load of stuff with you. There's no way a car can compete with a 300 kph TGV...

Plus, if you drive all the way you end up knackered at the end, and there's the safety aspects to consider.

And, given that I was going on business, I'd like to see my boss' face when I put in a mileage expenses claim for 1500 miles at 45p/mile... :)

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