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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Scanner Driver (Epson V550) (Peter Hemmings)
2. Re: Open Source Good News???? (not precisely Linux, but; )
(Philip Groves)
3. Linux Presentation Day (LPD) - October 22nd (Peter Hemmings)
4. Re: Linux Presentation Day (LPD) - October 22nd (Sebastian)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 22:41:54 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Scanner Driver (Epson V550)
Message-ID: <aa34863a-a0cf-9d3d-703c-94ebfe517d31@virginmedia.com>
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Update;
I gave up and put on Fedora 24 thinking that all would be well, and its
the same after loading the driver from the Epson site!
It (fc24) now does not detect the scanner using xsane.
As said previously, the original fc23 (still works) and has a plugin:
iscan-plugin-gt-x770
I then found this:
http://www.linux-hardware-guide.com/2013-06-16-epson-perfection-v500-photo-scanner
Which confirms I need it BUT it seems to have been on the "Avasys" site
which is now all Chinese.
On checking the epson site I cannot seem to find it.
On doing "export SANE_DEBUG_DLL=3"
Then running xsane I see:
[dll] add_backend: adding backend `epkowa'
[dll] sane_get_devices
[dll] load: searching backend `epkowa' in `/usr/lib64/sane'
[dll] load: dlopen()ing `/usr/lib64/sane/libsane-epkowa.so.1'
[dll] init: initializing backend `epkowa'
[dll] load: searching backend `xerox_mfp' in `/usr/lib64/sane'
[dll] load: dlopen()ing `/usr/lib64/sane/libsane-xerox_mfp.so.1
So I assume epkowa is OK
but:
[dll] sane_get_devices: found 0 devices
and that is why nothing happens.
So I need the "iscan-plugin-gt-x770" to see if that is the problem!?
Must go now my brain erts!!
Will not be able to do more till Sunday so I will give you a rest
Regards
--
Peter H
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 06:23:18 +0100
From: Philip Groves <philip.groves@gmail.com>
To: Winnie.lacesso@bristol.ac.uk, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Open Source Good News???? (not precisely Linux,
but; )
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Yes, it is good news. Way to go, Bulgaria!
On 21/07/2016, Winnie Lacesso via Bristol <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>
> Good news?
>
> "Bulgaria Got a Law Requiring Open Source"
>
> http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/29.61.html#subj11
>
> "... require all software written for the government to be open-source and
> to be developed as such in a public repository."
>
> "With opening the source we hope to reduce those [security] incidents, and
> to detect bad information security practices in the development process,
> rather than when it's too late."
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:34:58 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Linux Presentation Day (LPD) - October 22nd
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On 19/07/16 18:33, Sebastian via Bristol wrote:
> Another event and in October 2016, yes probably! This is after Alex
> sparked my interest last week with his forwarded email about Linux
> Presentation Day ( http://linux-presentation-day.org ) to our mailing
> list, but also since already have someone else who is also interested in
> helping to organise. I am not sure who else though be that as
> organisers or as on the day helpers, so if that's you please inform me
> of that as soon as possible. I emailed the general event idea last
> week in a email that started off as a response to Chris and then became
> quite long as well with my general event idea. As a result probably not
> many of you have read that email properly. Since time would be much
> less shorter than last time round to organise an event, and also since I
> would like to organise something that is more general and bigger than
> last time as well, with Creative Commons in there as well not just Linux
> and open source, I have already started trying to get an event organised.
As stated previously the main problem with "Linuxlive" lack of
advertising to the targeted audience and over complication with
variations of produced OS's which LPD's seem to address.
I was told that to have a successful presentation you must KISS (keep it
simple stupid!).
It is already beginning to get get late, after the holiday will be too late.
I think that any BBLUG organised event should adhere to the "Simple
Agenda" in the above link:
simple agenda
People who do not know Linux and want a first useful impression do not
need sophisticated presentations of special possibilities. What they
need is mostly very simple from the perspective of an experienced Linux
user. This means that a lot of people can participate in the event as
demonstrator or contact person even without any prior training.
One person needs to volunteer in the next few days, get started, AND NOT
MAKE IT OVER COMPLICATED.
I would be happy to help on the day as I am sure others would.
It would be good to have an LPD in Bristol (or Bath) and hope it goes
ahead.
Unfortunately I will not be at the KT tomorrow so cannot discuss it
further.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Sebastian
Regards
--
Peter H
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 12:09:13 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Linux Presentation Day (LPD) - October 22nd
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Hi Peter
Thank You for your response :), and replying inline below:
On Friday, 22 July 2016 09:34:58 BST, Peter Hemmings via Bristol
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
> On 19/07/16 18:33, Sebastian via Bristol wrote:
>> Another event and in October 2016, yes probably! This is after Alex
>> sparked my interest last week with his forwarded email about Linux
>> Presentation Day ( http://linux-presentation-day.org ) to our mailing
>> list, but also since already have someone else who is also interested in
>> helping to organise. I am not sure who else though be that as
>> organisers or as on the day helpers, so if that's you please inform me
>> of that as soon as possible. I emailed the general event idea last
>> week in a email that started off as a response to Chris and then became
>> quite long as well with my general event idea. As a result probably not
>> many of you have read that email properly. Since time would be much
>> less shorter than last time round to organise an event, and also since I
>> would like to organise something that is more general and bigger than
>> last time as well, with Creative Commons in there as well not just Linux
>> and open source, I have already started trying to get an event organised.
>
> As stated previously the main problem with "Linuxlive" lack of
> advertising to the targeted audience
Yes indeed to that, and that's why that should be a main focus once a venue
date and time is sorted out. Regarding a venue I already contacted one
early this week, but unfortunatley haven't received a response. Maybe I
forgot/underestimated how difficult it really is to get a venue in Bristol,
based on last time. As for possible funding/sponsership something I am
thinking about as well, and it seems Linux Presentation Day does not help
with that going by their website.
and over complication with
> variations of produced OS's which LPD's seem to address.
I know we disagreed basically quite a bit last time when it came to, how
many distros and interfaces to have, and which ones a bit as well, but I
don't think showing a few distros and interfaces is a bad thing, unless
they are to aimed at techi's. Also whichever and how many certain people
are shown, they are not just going to go to a Linux distro etc. However
maybe even with a few distributions, should try and get not that technical
event visitors, interested mostly in one specific distribution such as
Ubuntu at an event. Otherwise like with Linux Live they are meant to
decide them selves, but they don't really know as such what they are really
deciding on, and which is apparently the better possible option for them
(altough that was mostly for the usb sticks I think). People can go to
other distros and interfaces once more experienced anyway, if they would
like to do that them selves in the future, like quite a few Desktop LInux
users seem to do. Ubuntu possibly also has a bit of an advantage now over
other distros as well depending on how it would be shown etc at an event
and talked about, and that's well Ubuntu convergence, and something else as
well.
You put produced OS's, but to be clear for the event I proposed in the
other email etc: No woudn't be going down the remasters route like we did
with Linux Live, but instead offical media, for any discs/usbs that are
offically given away at such an event. That also gives more time for
anyone who is helping to organise the event to focus more on important
things that matter such as the marketting/promotion of the event.
Also like with Linux Live installs won't be done at the event, unless maybe
time and with certain specific visitors, but instead like with Linux Live
it would have the intention of people getting the feel for what Desktop
Linux etc is about :). Can promote the idea like I belive we did last
time, that installs can happen at the usual LUG meeting.
>
> I was told that to have a successful presentation you must KISS (keep it
> simple stupid!).
Yes doing that is usaully good, but even with something a bit bigger, as in
some more things that are being shown etc, can still do that :).
>
> It is already beginning to get get late, after the holiday will be too late.
I thought that you probably would think that not enough time. I personally
don't have that many plans for the summer etc, so could put in a lot of
time organising an event. As a result I belive that even with the short
time period that it can be doable. However more so if can get important
things sorted out properly soon such as a venue, and any possible
funding/sponsership. I mean that could take a month or so trying to sort
that out depending on how things would go, if still going to indeed have an
event.
> I think that any BBLUG organised event should adhere to the "Simple
> Agenda" in the above link:
>
> simple agenda
>
> People who do not know Linux and want a first useful impression do not
> need sophisticated presentations of special possibilities. What they
> need is mostly very simple from the perspective of an experienced Linux
> user. This means that a lot of people can participate in the event as
> demonstrator or contact person even without any prior training.
>
I agree with your above simple agenda.
> One person needs to volunteer in the next few days, get started, AND NOT
> MAKE IT OVER COMPLICATED.
>
> I would be happy to help on the day as I am sure others would.
Ok thanks :).
>
> It would be good to have an LPD in Bristol (or Bath) and hope it goes
> ahead.
Indeed!
>
> Unfortunately I will not be at the KT tomorrow so cannot discuss it
> further.
>
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> Sebastian
>
> Regards
>
P.S
I was giving the Hereford LUG website a proper good look earlier this week
since they had done a Linux Presentation Day before, however WOW they
really have done quite a few past events before, and that going by their
website seemed quite successful. Why can't our LUG start being more like
that?
--
Sent using Dekko from my Ubuntu device
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