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Today's Topics:
1. Re: [sclug] participation in the Europe-wide Linux
Presentation Day (fwd) (Sebastian)
2. Re: Scanner Driver (Epson V550) (Peter Hemmings)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 17:08:18 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] [sclug] participation in the Europe-wide Linux
Presentation Day (fwd)
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Hi
I got the emails on Thursday and thought it seemed like a good idea, but
I'll reply below mostly:
On Thursday, 14 July 2016 12:40:50 BST, Chris via Bristol
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
> On 14 July 2016 10:08:01 BST, Alex Butcher via Bristol
> <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 02:09:16 +0200
>>From: Hauke Laging via Sclug <sclug@sclug.org.uk>
>>Reply-To: Hauke Laging <hauke.laging@linux-presentation-day.org>
>>To: sclug@sclug.org.uk
>>Subject: [sclug] participation in the Europe-wide Linux Presentation
>>Day
>>
>>Hello,
>>
>>one year ago the Berlin Linux User Group (BeLUG, a non-commercial
>>association)
>>started a new regular event which is supposed to bring new kinds of
>>(private)
>>computer users in contact with Linux: the Linux Presentation Day (LPD)
>>
>>http://www.linux-presentation-day.org/
>>
>>The LPD has quickly spread across Europe:
>>
>>May 2015: Berlin only
>>November 2015: 72 cities in 3 countries
>>April 2016: 110 cities in 10 countries
>>October, 22nd 2016: 15+ countries expected
>>
>>The LPD is a non-commercial event and (usually) free of charge for the
>>visitors.
>>
>>The main idea is that being part of a huge international event should
>>both
>>increase the motivation of potential hosting organisations and make it
>>easier
>>to get media coverage. Furthermore the event organising becomes a lot
>>easier,
>>of course.
>>
>>There are recommendations but no strict rules what an LPD event shall
>>look
>>like. An important part of the concept is that it usually does not
>>require a
>>budget and can be done with very little effort. In the most simple case
>>there
>>are a few computers with different Linux desktop environments and a
>>staff
>>member for each of them so that the visitors can ask questions, let the
>>staff
>>show to them how things are done unser Linux and give it a try.
>>
>>Two small Linux user groups in the UK have participated in LPD 2016.1
>>but it
>>is not clear yet whether they will participate in the next event, too,
>>and
>>thus we are looking for both more hosting organisations and someone who
>>coordinates the activities there (national web site, mailing lists,
>>contact to
>>national media). The hosting organisations in Germany currently include
>>associations (mainly Linux user groups and hackerspaces), informal
>>groups
>>(small Linux user groups), companies (IT service), adult education
>>centres,
>>universities, and schools.
>>
>>
>>If
>>
>>a) you as an organisation are interested in participating
>>
>>b) some members / employees have a personal, private interest
>>
>>c) you have an idea which other organisations might be interested
>>
>>then I would be glad to hear from you.
>>
>>
>>Best regards,
>>
>>(Mr.) Hauke Laging
>>BeLUG board and central LPD organiser
>>--
>>http://www.linux-presentation-day.org/
>>
>>International phone contact for the Linux Presentation Day:
>> tel:+49-30-55579620 (13:00–23:00, German and English)
>>
>>XMPP (Chat with OTR): linux-presentation-day@jabber.ccc.de
>> OTR: 91626899 1C06F2BD 75EC2441 35C696CE 38F75997
>>
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>
> Sounds like a good idea, a European event
Indeed
>
> The biggest issue we had the last time (Linux Live 2014) was
> advertising the event effectively.
I think most of us had quite a good day anyway :), but yes we didn't quite
get in enough of the actual target audiance of the event, because of a big
failure when it came to the marketing side of things.
>
> The support of local businesses was a great thing for enabling the event.
Yes it was good that Linux IT actually helped sponser us to some extent :),
and Linux Format as well.
>
> The second biggest issue was disagreement about the importance
> of location with regards to likely feet through the door. I
> think we got this wrong, eyeballing something (the computer, the
> poster) is much more important than we gave credit for in order
> to get people interested.
I think where we had the event was fine enough for the amount of people we
actually got on the day, but if the event had been marketted more properly,
then yes we may of had about 50 to 80 visitors and then where we had the
event might have been a bit to small. May of had to of told people to come
back even if that.
>
> In retrospect, spending time preparing custom distribution
> packaging probably wasn't worth the effort.
We debated quite a lot about what Linux distro's and de's we would have in
the event and not have, and what software would go in remasters etc, I
guess only natural since what we wanted to acheive with the event. However
probably generally more focus should have happended from all of us who
organised the event on the marketting/promotion side of the event.
We learnt things from our 2014 event, what was a success and what was not
etc. So the big question is: Should we possibly actually organise an event
of some sort, for that date in October of this year for Linux Presentation
Day via our LUG? Seems they help with material to an extent as well which
is good, but not funding or did I read that wrong?
Who would be possibly interested in helping organise a similar event to
what is being suggested on their website, other than myself, and that I
would assume would be similar to our previous LInux Live event? I know not
that much time from now and their suggested event date, (which is when our
October LUG Meeting is meant to be anyway,) but it could be doable to
organise a small event if a few of us are interested enough and have time
to help with that, and personally I could put in quite a lot of time
helping to organise such an event it seems.
I still got quite a few freebies left from the previous event actually that
would probably want to try and give away if having another event as well.
Those of us who organised the previous event know each other better now,
and have experience organising the previous event together, which I would
have thought would make things easier a second time round. Plus I think a
particular someone who visited our event, would probably be interested in
helping organise such an event
Their website mentions focussing on Desktop Linux mostly still, but Linux
really has gone much more mobile in the past few years for example, so I
think it would be good to be able to show some mobile LInux at an event
like that as well, giving people an idea what that is about as well. Same
for Raspbery Pi and things like that (for example the Remix Mini possibly
since I have two of those, as well as the Remix OS tablet for that).
I think a remaster idea like before could still be quite a good idea, since
it's about giving people a demo of Linux, not installing at the event, for
installs they could come to the LUG meeting for help. If not remasters
actual Live Media's of choosen distros.
I think last time we got a bit to debatable about what distro's to have and
not have at the event, I think if doing an event similar to Linux Live
again, can have some main things to show, and then other things are more of
a side thing that can be shown as well to interested people and offically.
Something that wasn't good for the event is how some of the event video
that we ended up with, was actually to technical for the type of visitors
we were wanting at the event, to the extent that actually to such a visitor
it actually put them off one of the distros as a result.
Well it's the LUG Meeting next Saturday so those of us who go to that could
discuss the possibility of having a October 2016 event there, however time
really is short to organise an event for then.
Please let's now start a constructive LUG mailing list discussion about
the possibility of another event, if anyone else is interested enough in
this idea, other than myself :).
I wonder if anyone could hopefully help us get a suitable venue for free
if we are going to have an event? That took quite a while last time
deciding on the venue etc. In the end we got a good venue for free, but I
don't think we would be able to have another event there again for free.
Events are usually FUN! So I hope we can have one in October :)!
Best Regards
Sebastian
P.S
My email mentions a Linux specific type event, but maybe it can be a bit
more focussed on opensource/freesoftware in general or as well, with good
enough reason.
P.S 2
I am waiting for my Nexdock which is delayed since a fire in the factory,
but with that will be able to connect various devices, from phones,
tablets, Raspbery Pi's, Remix Mini's etc, and turn them into a lap top. I
am thinking a Nexdock could possibly be used at an event to demo things,
and I will probably be recieveing one in September.
P.S 3
We didn't really have a big enough event etc for this before, but for a big
enough event I still quite like my idea from before, of having a video area
where could show Creative Commons movies on a loop for example :), with
people finding out that they were made using opensource/freesoftware
programs. Opensource/freesoftware is generally linked to free culture and
Creative Commons as well :). As a new idea maybe even could have a
projecter showing some really nice artwork that's been made using
opensource/freesoftware even? With people finding out that it was made
using such software, rather than Photoshop for example. Could also use an
event to get the idea out that Creative Commons music exists as well :) in
various ways.
P.S 4
I like showing things at the LUG Meetings, so would be nice to show things
at another LUG organised event :).
--
Sent using Dekko from my Ubuntu device
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 18:34:17 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Dave Addison <dave@redmoor.org.uk>, Bristol and Bath Linux User
Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Scanner Driver (Epson V550)
Message-ID: <b6095547-7222-67fb-4d52-5530f76eabc3@virginmedia.com>
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Just back from holiday and tried again to install my driver from this
general info:
[root@localhost iscan-perfection-v550-bundle-1.0.1.x64.rpm]# ./install.sh
Last metadata expiration check: 0:23:45 ago on Sat Jul 16 17:30:35 2016.
Package iscan-data-1.36.0-1.noarch is already installed, skipping.
Dependencies resolved.
================================================================================
Package Arch Version Repository
Size
================================================================================
Installing:
iscan x86_64 2.30.2-2 @commandline
413 k
iscan-plugin-perfection-v550 x86_64 1.0.0-2 @commandline
214 k
Transaction Summary
================================================================================
Install 2 Packages
Total size: 627 k
Installed size: 1.9 M
Downloading Packages:
Running transaction check
Transaction check succeeded.
Running transaction test
Transaction test succeeded.
Running transaction
Installing : iscan-2.30.2-2.x86_64
1/2
Installing : iscan-plugin-perfection-v550-1.0.0-2.x86_64
2/2
Verifying : iscan-plugin-perfection-v550-1.0.0-2.x86_64
1/2
Verifying : iscan-2.30.2-2.x86_64
2/2
Installed:
iscan.x86_64 2.30.2-2 iscan-plugin-perfection-v550.x86_64
1.0.0-2
Complete!
So I assumed all was OK!?
With scanner plugged in and switched on iscan s/w (and Xsane) does not
start the scanner.
Iscan reports:
"Could not send command to scanner. Check scanner's status"
Even tried running as root but no luck.
Checked (again) that its there:
[root@localhost ~]# sane-find-scanner
# sane-find-scanner will now attempt to detect your scanner. If the
# result is different from what you expected, first make sure your
# scanner is powered up and properly connected to your computer.
# No SCSI scanners found. If you expected something different, make
sure that
# you have loaded a kernel SCSI driver for your SCSI adapter.
found USB scanner (vendor=0x2040 [Hauppauge], product=0x9950 [WinTV
Nova-DT]) at libusb:003:002
found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON], product=0x0130 [EPSON
Scanner]) at libusb:002:003
# Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be
supported by
# SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage.
# Not checking for parallel port scanners.
# Most Scanners connected to the parallel port or other proprietary ports
# can't be detected by this program.
[root@localhost ~]#
BUT this does not work:
[root@localhost ~]# scanimage -L
No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different,
check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by the
sane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the documentation
which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages).
[root@localhost ~]#
I assume this driver does work because its for my specific scanner, so
I must be doing something wrong!
Any ideas as to what module I should see loaded for this scanner as on
my other fc23 that works, there is no epkowa listed?
Its just a rear pain having to use the old fc23 the does not shutdown
correctly to scan a photo!
On 08/07/16 00:31, Dave Addison via Bristol wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> The epkowa drive is installed from the iscan package
>
> Regards
> Dave
>
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Regards
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Peter H
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