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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Very Simple KDE (bright window) Question (xifer)
2. Re: Very Simple KDE (bright window) Question (Neil Baker)
3. Re: Very Simple KDE (bright window) Question (Peter Hemmings)
4. Re: Very Simple KDE (bright window) Question (Ioan Loosley)
5. Re: Very Simple KDE (bright window) Question (Shane McEwan)
6. Re: Very Simple KDE (bright window) Question (Peter Hemmings)
7. LUG Meeting this afternoon 22/11/14 (Sebastian)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 12:11:26 +0000
From: xifer <xifer@aktivix.org>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Very Simple KDE (bright window) Question
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On Thursday 20 Nov 2014 21:07:46 Peter Hemmings wrote:
> On 20/11/14 20:20, Neil Baker wrote:
> > On 20/11/14 09:54, Ioan Loosley wrote:
> >> Is it the thumbnails or the whole window, If it is the thumbnail it
> >> seams to be a bug then
> >> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kwin&m=127777220430368 - this is from 2010 but
> >> im going to see if its still a bug.
> >> Im not a kde user though
> >>
> >> On 19 November 2014 20:44, Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk
> >>
> >> <mailto:peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have (eventually) decided to try KDE (from Gnome) on my fc20.
> >>
> >> Switched over OK but cannot seem to find the display setting to stop
> >> the selected window becoming very bright and glaring.
> >>
> >> I am sure its there but I cannot seem to find it atm!
> >>
> >> Could a kde user save me a bit of time please!?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> --
> >> Peter H
> >
> > Hi Peter, try System Settings -> Power Management -> Energy Saving and
> >
> > System Settings -> Hardware -> Display and Monitor -> Gamma.
>
> Sorry but this KDE has no "Gamma" in Display and Monitor and I cannot
> see anything relevant in Energy Saving.
>
>
> What is more of a concern is I cannot drag all active windows on Desktop
> holding left mouse button, some do work but others don't!
>
> > HTH.
>
> Regards
SYSTEM SETTINGS->DESKTOP EFFECTS - adjust
& APPLICATION APPEARANCE & WORKSPACE APPEARANCE
You can get KDE to look like gnome or windows if you want
Do you have any app specific window settings on those that do not move?right
click window title and look for app/window settings.
If not then maybe those are not windows but are desktop widgets? Hover the
mouse over them and Look for the spanner and window adjust icons
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 14:09:09 +0000
From: Neil Baker <neil@sgsr.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Very Simple KDE (bright window) Question
Message-ID: <546F4785.7070800@sgsr.co.uk>
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On 21/11/14 12:11, xifer wrote:
> On Thursday 20 Nov 2014 21:07:46 Peter Hemmings wrote:
>> On 20/11/14 20:20, Neil Baker wrote:
>>> On 20/11/14 09:54, Ioan Loosley wrote:
>>>> Is it the thumbnails or the whole window, If it is the thumbnail it
>>>> seams to be a bug then
>>>> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kwin&m=127777220430368 - this is from 2010 but
>>>> im going to see if its still a bug.
>>>> Im not a kde user though
>>>>
>>>> On 19 November 2014 20:44, Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk
>>>>
>>>> <mailto:peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have (eventually) decided to try KDE (from Gnome) on my fc20.
>>>>
>>>> Switched over OK but cannot seem to find the display setting to stop
>>>> the selected window becoming very bright and glaring.
>>>>
>>>> I am sure its there but I cannot seem to find it atm!
>>>>
>>>> Could a kde user save me a bit of time please!?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> --
>>>> Peter H
>>>
>>> Hi Peter, try System Settings -> Power Management -> Energy Saving and
>>>
>>> System Settings -> Hardware -> Display and Monitor -> Gamma.
>>
>> Sorry but this KDE has no "Gamma" in Display and Monitor and I cannot
>> see anything relevant in Energy Saving.
>>
>>
>> What is more of a concern is I cannot drag all active windows on Desktop
>> holding left mouse button, some do work but others don't!
>>
>>> HTH.
>>
>> Regards
> SYSTEM SETTINGS->DESKTOP EFFECTS - adjust
>
> & APPLICATION APPEARANCE & WORKSPACE APPEARANCE
>
> You can get KDE to look like gnome or windows if you want
>
> Do you have any app specific window settings on those that do not move?right
> click window title and look for app/window settings.
>
> If not then maybe those are not windows but are desktop widgets? Hover the
> mouse over them and Look for the spanner and window adjust icons
>
>
I will bring my net-book running KDE4 with me to the KT. I like KDE as
you can configure almost anything in it. The problem can be, tunnelling
through a large amount of options to get what you want. Also the
grouping is not necessarily too intuitive!
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 15:12:48 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: neil@sgns.co.uk, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Very Simple KDE (bright window) Question
Message-ID: <546F5670.3040108@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
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A few answers to this thread:
PC Monitor settings 1680 x 1050 (DGM Monitor)
KDE4 was not installed earlier (I think!)
Moving Window - Thunderbird window will not move. When right clicking
top menu I get "Menu Bar" "Mail Toolbar" and "Customize" which is only
for toolbars.
Tried Settings > Desktop Effects > All Effects > Highlight Window, this
was only for hovering cursor.
So I still cannot seem to find how to stop it.
FWIW I did install KDE from a fedora howto which was not straight
forward, maybe this is the problem!
If I have the time I will install it on my laptop to see if it does the
same thing and bring it to the KT for enlightenment!
Regards
-
Peter H
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 15:54:33 +0000
From: Ioan Loosley <legit.ioangogo@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Very Simple KDE (bright window) Question
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Doesnt right click allways bring a conext menu up its normally left click
for draging
On 21 Nov 2014 15:13, "Peter Hemmings" <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
> A few answers to this thread:
>
> PC Monitor settings 1680 x 1050 (DGM Monitor)
>
> KDE4 was not installed earlier (I think!)
>
> Moving Window - Thunderbird window will not move. When right clicking top
> menu I get "Menu Bar" "Mail Toolbar" and "Customize" which is only for
> toolbars.
>
> Tried Settings > Desktop Effects > All Effects > Highlight Window, this
> was only for hovering cursor.
>
>
>
> So I still cannot seem to find how to stop it.
>
> FWIW I did install KDE from a fedora howto which was not straight
> forward, maybe this is the problem!
>
> If I have the time I will install it on my laptop to see if it does the
> same thing and bring it to the KT for enlightenment!
>
>
> Regards
> -
> Peter H
>
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 16:07:01 +0000
From: Shane McEwan <shane@mcewan.id.au>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Very Simple KDE (bright window) Question
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I'm not sure what you mean by the selected window being "very bright and
glaring"? Does the border around with window brighten or the whole
thing? It could be your window theme. Open "System Settings -> Workspace
Appearance" and try choosing different "Window Decorations" and "Desktop
Theme" to see if that helps.
As for the window moving, it's possible (but unlikely) that you've
locked the positions of the windows or turned off their borders. If you
right click on the window's top border (not the Thunderbird menu but the
header of the window where it says something like "Mozilla Thunderbird")
you should get a menu with things like "Move to Desktop" and "Move to
Screen". Choose "More Actions -> Special Window Settings" and in the
"Size & Position" tab make sure "Position" is unchecked. If you don't
have a border around the window you can use ALT-F3 to get access to the
menu and ensure the "No border" option isn't turned on.
The keyboard shortcut for moving a window is to hold the ALT key then
left-click anywhere in the window and drag to move it.
Hope this helps!
Shane.
On 21/11/14 15:12, Peter Hemmings wrote:
> A few answers to this thread:
>
> PC Monitor settings 1680 x 1050 (DGM Monitor)
>
> KDE4 was not installed earlier (I think!)
>
> Moving Window - Thunderbird window will not move. When right clicking
> top menu I get "Menu Bar" "Mail Toolbar" and "Customize" which is only
> for toolbars.
>
> Tried Settings > Desktop Effects > All Effects > Highlight Window, this
> was only for hovering cursor.
>
>
>
> So I still cannot seem to find how to stop it.
>
> FWIW I did install KDE from a fedora howto which was not straight
> forward, maybe this is the problem!
>
> If I have the time I will install it on my laptop to see if it does the
> same thing and bring it to the KT for enlightenment!
>
>
> Regards
> -
> Peter H
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bristol mailing list
> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 17:42:28 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Very Simple KDE (bright window) Question
Message-ID: <546F7984.6010502@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
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On 21/11/14 16:07, Shane McEwan wrote:
> I'm not sure what you mean by the selected window being "very bright and
> glaring"?
Does the border around with window brighten or the whole
> thing?
the border
It could be your window theme. Open "System Settings -> Workspace
> Appearance" and try choosing different "Window Decorations"
That was it, I had "Oxygen" and it has a bright surround on my PC with
the blue fedora wallpaper. It was quite bright but OK now I am using
"plastik".
I have instaled it on my Thinkpad and wit the same wallpaper, looks
quite normal. I do have the monitor (PC) set to quite a natural white
temperature though.
and "Desktop"KDE Plasma Workspaces"
> Theme" to see if that helps.
>
> As for the window moving, it's possible (but unlikely) that you've
> locked the positions of the windows or turned off their borders.
Not lacked
If you
> right click on the window's top border (not the Thunderbird menu but the
> header of the window where it says something like "Mozilla Thunderbird")
> you should get a menu with things like "Move to Desktop" and "Move to
> Screen". Choose "More Actions -> Special Window Settings" and in the
> "Size & Position" tab make sure "Position" is unchecked.
Not checked
If you don't"KDE Plasma Workspaces"
> have a border around the window you can use ALT-F3 to get access to the
> menu and ensure the "No border" option isn't turned on.
>
> The keyboard shortcut for moving a window is to hold the ALT key then
> left-click anywhere in the window and drag to move it.
Looks like that was it!! too many years using just Gnome!
> Hope this helps!
Yep, that seems it for now.
FWIW I did some of the tweaks in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dohhz91OTPY
>
> Shane.
>
> On 21/11/14 15:12, Peter Hemmings wrote:
>> A few answers to this thread:
>>
>> PC Monitor settings 1680 x 1050 (DGM Monitor)
>>
>> KDE4 was not installed earlier (I think!)
>>
>> Moving Window - Thunderbird window will not move. When right clicking
>> top menu I get "Menu Bar" "Mail Toolbar" and "Customize" which is only
>> for toolbars.
>>
>> Tried Settings > Desktop Effects > All Effects > Highlight Window, this
>> was only for hovering cursor.
>>
>>
>>
>> So I still cannot seem to find how to stop it.
>>
>> FWIW I did install KDE from a fedora howto which was not straight
>> forward, maybe this is the problem!
>>
>> If I have the time I will install it on my laptop to see if it does the
>> same thing and bring it to the KT for enlightenment!
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> -
>> Peter H
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
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Regards
--
Peter H
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 09:59:54 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: [bristol] LUG Meeting this afternoon 22/11/14
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Hi
Today is the afternoon of our next informal LUG pub meeting, and I
haven't been to the LUG meeting since August I think it was. I should
be at the Knight's Templar pub for about 2/3pm.
http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/pubs/the-knights-templar
If there is someone new who gets this in time, that is able to come
along this afternoon, well I hope that you do and here are some more
details: I would suggest not turning up until 1:30pm by the earliest
when at least someone else is likely to be there as well. When entering
the pub we sit on the lower level at the back of the pub in the left
hand hand side corner by the plugs, or near there instead if someone
else is already there.
I hope to meet quite a few people there this afternoon.
Regards
Sebastian
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