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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Connecting to net via PPPoE (Richard Connon)
2. Re: Connecting to net via PPPoE (john ffitch)
3. Re: Connecting to net via PPPoE (Ian Collier)
4. Re: Connecting to net via PPPoE (Amias Channer)
5. Re: Ubuntu 14 - Backup utility (Amias Channer)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2014 13:47:39 +0000
From: Richard Connon <richard@connon.me.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Connecting to net via PPPoE
Message-ID: <545A2A7B.8040508@connon.me.uk>
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I used a debian box to connect the the PlusNet ADSL service for a while.
You should be fine.
You should get an openreach provided VDSL modem which does PPPoE to
PPPoA bridging. Any other equipment provided by the ISP can be omitted.

On 05/11/14 10:37, Amias Channer wrote:
> My understanding of FTTC is Fibre To The Cabinet which still means a
> phone line coming in , the main difference would be potentially more
> speed (if you are allowed it) , any decent router should work with it
> and ISTR zen supply them anyway.
>
> i would just setup the supplied router as explained by the isp then
> get a shell on the router and copy the config to the debian box ,
> checking ppp versions along the way. If you are really concerned or
> have specific needs then talk to the ISP , i've heard they are good
> with linux.
>
> if all else fails - ask for the support engineer with the cuddly
> penguin http://xkcd.com/806/
>
> Cheers
> Amias
>
> On 4 November 2014 23:53, Stuart Ward <stuart.ward@bcs.org
> <mailto:stuart.ward@bcs.org>> wrote:
>
> So long as your router runs ddwrt or similar you will have no
> problem with PPPoE
>
> -- Stuart Ward M +44 7782325143 <tel:%2B44%207782325143>
>
> On 4 November 2014 17:39, john ffitch <jpff@codemist.co.uk
> <mailto:jpff@codemist.co.uk>> wrote:
>
> I am contemplating changing from my ADSL line to a FTTC
> connection.
> Currently I run a Debian computer as my firewall, with
> iptables etc
> protection which works very well. Homeplug and wireless
> networks are
> inside and connect to the other ether port on the firewall.
>
> I understand that the FTTC (Zen) provides PPPoE and as far as
> I can
> tell Debian has pppoe packages. Has anyone had experience
> with setting
> up such a system? Is configuring really as simple as is
> suggested via
> pppoe-config etc? It looks as if it is roaring penguin packaged.
> Just looking for reassurance before I order.
>
> ==John ffitch
> PS Thanks for information on BBC and get_iplayer
>
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 14:54:17 +0000
From: john ffitch <jpff@codemist.co.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Connecting to net via PPPoE
Message-ID: <1631-Wed05Nov2014145417+0000-jpff@codemist.co.uk>

I was hoping to run without a router, and take the wire direct into
the Debian box. All the routers I have seen provide ether switches
and/of wireless, which are only a security hole. I understood that BT
supplied a box that had an ethernet cable interface that spoke PPPoE,
and hence direct into the firewall. The pppoe package seems to
promise that.
Perhaps I will talk to Zen, who are usually helpful
==John ffitch



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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 15:07:05 +0000
From: Ian Collier <ianpcollier@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Connecting to net via PPPoE
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Hi John,

BT do indeed provide a DSL modem (wether you have FTTC and regular DSL - I suppose the devices may be different depending on use case but I don?t believe there is an inherent need) and a separate homehub.

I use my own wireless router and it connects to the modem by PPOe

?Ian

> On 5 Nov 2014, at 14:54, john ffitch <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I was hoping to run without a router, and take the wire direct into
> the Debian box. All the routers I have seen provide ether switches
> and/of wireless, which are only a security hole. I understood that BT
> supplied a box that had an ethernet cable interface that spoke PPPoE,
> and hence direct into the firewall. The pppoe package seems to
> promise that.
> Perhaps I will talk to Zen, who are usually helpful
> ==John ffitch
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 16:34:03 +0000
From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Connecting to net via PPPoE
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On 5 November 2014 14:54, john ffitch <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:

> All the routers I have seen provide ether switches
> and/of wireless, which are only a security hole
>

Is your debian hardening really any better ? for all your services ?
I would use a lighter and more locked down distro than that.

most decent routers PPOA will degrade back to being a modem with a single
port on the inside enabled with the right config but thats moot anyway ,
pretty sure if you ask zen they will give you a single port device , it
will be cheaper for them after all.

Cheers
Amias
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:47:39 +0000
From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Ubuntu 14 - Backup utility
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Hello Alan,

There is a pretty comprehensive guide here.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto

You haven't provided enough information to work out what has happened ,
some of logs of evidence of how you made your assumptions would help.

Cheers
Amias


On 4 November 2014 17:14, Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
wrote:

> On 04/11/14 14:27, Alan Barwick wrote:
>
>> Can anyone help?
>>
>> I have been studiously backing up, on a daily basis, a laptop, using the
>> ubuntu utility to a usb router connected disk.
>>
>> All seemed to be going well until I had the need to use the backed up
>> files.
>>
>> Whilst I can see the incremental backed up files , via Nautilus, on the
>> Buffalo disk, the Duplicity Restore function refuses to see the files
>> and continues to tell me that there are no backups to restore.
>>
>> Has anyone any experience with this software.
>>
>
> Yep, but I am no expert!
>
> I just backup to another HD on the same box (and take the risk it doesn't
> burn up/gets stolen!).
>
> As Duplicity uses well proven programs like ssh/rsync I would have thought
> the problem is elsewhere like open ports. I know its frowned upon, but
> you could (for a short time) disable any firewalls to prove it or you could
> check what protocol it uses and make sure its open (SSH port 22 is normally
> closed by default on most distros).
>
> I assume Duplicity is trying to communicate with your router and cannot,
> so you see nothing.
>
> There are those much wiser than me on this list who may (or may not)
> confirm my thoughts!
>
>
>
>
>> From witsend near Blagdon
>>
>> Hopefully yours
>>
>> Alan Barwick
>>
>> -- Sent from Thunderbird Mail - Ubuntu 14 LTS
>>
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