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Today's Topics:
1. Re: likely RiseUp.net server gag order (Y Martin)
2. Fwd: NEWS: Buy on-line and receive a free IQaudIO DAC (David Fear)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 14:44:14 +0000
From: Y Martin <ym2016@riseup.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] likely RiseUp.net server gag order
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Since my last email, Riseup have made some tweets and my opinion has
shifted. I think it is important to note that a gagging order is
different from having compromised servers. I think that it does make
sense that RiseUp have been issued a gagging order, which is why they
havent refuted this. A gag order doesnt mean that their servers are
compromised, but suggests that there is a pending legal process. eg. "an
attached gag order.. restricts the recipient from ever saying anything
about being served with one" [1].
However, that legal process may end in an order to hand over their
servers. On 21/11/16, Riseup quoted their own FAQ [2] in tweeting:
"we would rather pull the plug than submit to repressive surveillance by
any government" [3].
I think that at the time, this tweet out of the blue was quite confusing
for many people. However, given the tweet yesterday
(24/11/16) that "Our systems are fully under our control"[4], in the
context of a gagging order, this makes much more sense. I believe they
still have control of their servers but are subject to a gagging order.
In conclusion, I dont think riseup's servers are necessarily compromised
as a result of recent events, but I would recommend anyone using their
services to backup any data (eg emails) and until Riseup do as they have
promised and "provide additional information at a later date"[5]. I
would, however, consider it a current heightened risk that RiseUp may
pull the plug on their services should they lose any current legal
action being taken against them.
Yousef
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gag_order#United_States
[2] https://twitter.com/riseupnet
[3]
https://riseup.net/en/about-us/policy/government-faq#will-riseup-services-last-forever
[4] https://twitter.com/riseupnet
[5] https://twitter.com/riseupnet
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Subject: Re: [bristol] likely RiseUp.net server gag order
From: Philip Hudson via Bristol <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
To: Y Martin <ym2016@riseup.net>, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Date: 24/11/16 13:54
> On 24 November 2016 at 11:50, Y Martin via Bristol
> <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>> To those of you that use RiseUp services (eg. me), I just wanted to let
>> you know that it is looking very likely that the riseup servers have
>> been issued a gag order and should be considered compromised.
>>
>> The Riseup Canary has died/expired/not been renewed:
>> https://riseup.net/en/canary and there is other suspicious activity/lack
>> of activity which is being widely discussed on the internet without
>> Riseup making any response to such discussions.
>
> Damn. Why do I only hear about things like RiseUp when it's too late?
> That looks like it was excellent. Thanks anyway Yousef.
>
> Copying this to the Open Rights Group.
>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 17:38:07 +0000
From: David Fear <david@dfear.co.uk>
To: "Bristol & Bath lug" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Fwd: NEWS: Buy on-line and receive a free IQaudIO
DAC
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