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Today's Topics:

1. Re: likely RiseUp.net server gag order (Philip Hudson)
2. Re: Listing settings in conf file (Keith Edmunds)
3. Re: Listing settings in conf file (Peter Hemmings)
4. LUG Meeting tomorrow (Peter Hemmings)
5. Re: LUG Meeting tomorrow (mark chard)
6. Re: LUG Meeting tomorrow (Sebastian)
7. OpenSUSE Tablet and... (Sebastian)
8. Re: LUG Meeting tomorrow (Mark Griffin)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 13:54:08 +0000
From: Philip Hudson <phil.hudson@iname.com>
To: Y Martin <ym2016@riseup.net>, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Cc: Open Rights Group open discussion list
<org-discuss@lists.openrightsgroup.org>
Subject: Re: [bristol] likely RiseUp.net server gag order
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On 24 November 2016 at 11:50, Y Martin via Bristol
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
> To those of you that use RiseUp services (eg. me), I just wanted to let
> you know that it is looking very likely that the riseup servers have
> been issued a gag order and should be considered compromised.
>
> The Riseup Canary has died/expired/not been renewed:
> https://riseup.net/en/canary and there is other suspicious activity/lack
> of activity which is being widely discussed on the internet without
> Riseup making any response to such discussions.

Damn. Why do I only hear about things like RiseUp when it's too late?
That looks like it was excellent. Thanks anyway Yousef.

Copying this to the Open Rights Group.

--
Phil Hudson http://hudson-it.ddns.net
Pretty Good Privacy (PGP) ID: 0x887DCA63

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 18:44:38 +0000
From: Keith Edmunds <kae@midnighthax.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Listing settings in conf file
Message-ID: <20161124184438.3deb8955@ws.midnighthax.com>
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On Thu, 24 Nov 2016 11:35:44 +0000, bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk said:

> I have a motion.conf file and its quite long, so just wanted to show
> what the actual settings settings

This from my Technical Tips mailing list: maybe it's helpful?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lots of Linux configuration files are peppered with comments. Mostly
that's helpful, but sometimes we just want to see what the configuration
settings are.

Stripping out the comments could be done with a short shell script:

#!/bin/bash

FILE=$1
grep -v ^$ $FILE|grep -v ^[[:space:]]*#|grep -v ^\;

That strips out lines that:

- are blank
- start with a hash (#), possibly preceded by one or more spaces
- start with a semicolon (;)

But it isn't perfect: it invokes grep three times, and it can't process
input from standard input, so it can't be fed via the pipe (|) character.

I use this version, saved as /usr/local/bin/decomment and made executable:

#!/bin/bash

[ $# -ge 1 -a -f "$1" ] && INPUT="$1" || INPUT="-"
egrep -v '^($|[[:space:]]*#|\;)' $INPUT

Here it is in action:

$ cat test.conf
# Sample configuration file
# my_param = 1
my_param = 2
verbose = 1

$ decomment test.conf
my_param = 2
verbose = 1

$ grep param test.conf
# my_param = 1
my_param = 2

$ grep param test.conf | decomment
my_param = 2

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 09:15:47 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Keith Edmunds <kae@midnighthax.com>, Bristol and Bath Linux User
Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Listing settings in conf file
Message-ID: <0d927bf3-9d5e-bb41-4117-110616a33e8f@virginmedia.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Thanks for all the scripts, if I get the time I will try and learn a bit
of bash!

I though I used just a standard command but must have been wrong as I
don't remember using a made up script.
I think it was a script in a program that allowed the selected
parameters to be easily read (not sure what program it was!).


On 24/11/16 18:44, Keith Edmunds via Bristol wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Nov 2016 11:35:44 +0000, bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk said:
>
>> I have a motion.conf file and its quite long, so just wanted to show
>> what the actual settings settings
>
> This from my Technical Tips mailing list: maybe it's helpful?
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lots of Linux configuration files are peppered with comments. Mostly
> that's helpful, but sometimes we just want to see what the configuration
> settings are.
>
> Stripping out the comments could be done with a short shell script:
>
> #!/bin/bash
>
> FILE=$1
> grep -v ^$ $FILE|grep -v ^[[:space:]]*#|grep -v ^\;
>
> That strips out lines that:
>
> - are blank
> - start with a hash (#), possibly preceded by one or more spaces
> - start with a semicolon (;)
>
> But it isn't perfect: it invokes grep three times, and it can't process
> input from standard input, so it can't be fed via the pipe (|) character.
>
> I use this version, saved as /usr/local/bin/decomment and made executable:
>
> #!/bin/bash
>
> [ $# -ge 1 -a -f "$1" ] && INPUT="$1" || INPUT="-"
> egrep -v '^($|[[:space:]]*#|\;)' $INPUT
>
> Here it is in action:
>
> $ cat test.conf
> # Sample configuration file
> # my_param = 1
> my_param = 2
> verbose = 1
>
> $ decomment test.conf
> my_param = 2
> verbose = 1
>
> $ grep param test.conf
> # my_param = 1
> my_param = 2
>
> $ grep param test.conf | decomment
> my_param = 2
>

Regards

--
Peter H

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 09:31:10 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] LUG Meeting tomorrow
Message-ID: <0a272059-c536-e1ea-d6b4-3603507737e7@virginmedia.com>
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Hi,

Just a reminder for tomorrow at the Knights Templer near Temple Meads
Station.

I intend to be there about 2pm but hope I am not alone.

The next one is Christmas Eve - so unless there are many who intend
visiting Bristol on that day!, a week earlier on the 17th December.

Ooopps ..... I think I made a decision!

Regards
--
Peter H

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 09:46:05 +0000
From: mark chard <machard.1984@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LUG Meeting tomorrow
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<CAA7DJ2=33rg0+ZEA_WfvFvN0+D79CP_M2Q5MWfgMUzG6MZkVXA@mail.gmail.com>
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Steady on Peter...

On 25 Nov 2016 9:31 am, "Peter Hemmings via Bristol" <
bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just a reminder for tomorrow at the Knights Templer near Temple Meads
> Station.
>
> I intend to be there about 2pm but hope I am not alone.
>
> The next one is Christmas Eve - so unless there are many who intend
> visiting Bristol on that day!, a week earlier on the 17th December.
>
> Ooopps ..... I think I made a decision!
>
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Peter H
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bristol mailing list
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 09:58:13 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LUG Meeting tomorrow
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Hi

Replying below:

On Friday, 25 November 2016 09:31:10 GMT, Peter Hemmings via Bristol
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just a reminder for tomorrow at the Knights Templer near Temple Meads
> Station.
>
> I intend to be there about 2pm but hope I am not alone.
>
> The next one is Christmas Eve - so unless there are many who intend
> visiting Bristol on that day!, a week earlier on the 17th December.
>
> Ooopps ..... I think I made a decision!
>
>
>
> Regards

Yes was going to email today about the LUG meeting. I expect to be there
about 2:30 to 3pm. I'll leave late probably about 6pm to 6:30pm or so.
I hope a few visitors to last months Linux Presentation Day event wil also
be there, as well as anyone new in general, and hopefully quite a few of
our usual regulars etc as wel. A turn out of over 10 people would be
impressive!

So why not come along if you are going to be around in the general big
area, for a chat, and some Christmas Dinner at the Knight's Templar pub
even? I was there already at that pub last Saturday for a bit, because of
something else, and yes the Christmas Dinner menu was looking good, even
for vegetarian :). Oh that could be two Christmas Meals at the Knights
Templar, if meeting up next mont as well on the 3rd week, for new people
see below for more details about that. Oh and anyone else got any
potentially interesting gadgets/tech devices, to show other than me?

For new people: We usually sit at the back of the pub when entering it on
the lower level, in the left hand side corner with the plugs, or near there
instead if someone else not us, is already there. I would also not sugget
turning up untill about 2:30pm by the earlist if new, or indeed you may be
there on your own. Also we never actually have a LUG meeting at
Christmas, but the usual date seem to always crash with it, hence havng it
the week beore instead, the 3rd week of December instead of the 4th.

Best Regards

Sebastian


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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 10:29:32 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: [bristol] OpenSUSE Tablet and...
Message-ID: <5549b0fe-60ab-4fff-b601-33dcbe78416e@gmx.com>
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Hi

Could this be the tablet for Chris Horler?
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MJ-OpenSUSE-Tablet
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/first-true-linux-x86-and-x64-tablet#/
Yes an OpenSUSE tablet! I haven't mett Chris H at the LUG or otherwise,
for quite a few months or more now it seems. Chris if you end up reading
this, what happended to you by the way?

So yeah I found out abut that Crowd Funding Campaigin on Tuesday, being
crowd funded by a company that tried to crowd fund a Ubuntu tablet similar
to that, but with that campaigin not really working out. Also it's called
a tablet sure, but really the particular device seems to be more like a lap
top, and it could even dual boot with WIndows 10. I assume can put other
distros on it as well. Pretty nice specs as well aye? Yes that's not ARM,
so more like a lap top as I put. Awesome the deault interface in the
OpenSUSE that if it gets funded will come with, is GNOME 3 not KDE :)!
Yeah well even though GNOME would say how it wasn't made for touch
screen's, in my experience GNOME Shell does work rather well indeed on
touch screens :), so makes sense to have that on that OpenSUSE device by
default I guess.

Why oh why, does their have to be something to possibly crowd fund, when
don't want to crowd fund anything, especially expensive things? I am
however interested myself in the openSUSE device, for a few reasons, so
will probably end up funding that to be honest, and yes the more expensive
higher speced version it seems. Plus I got this to crowd fund it seems,
when the campain for that is started etc:
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/11/station-dock-ubuntu-phone-ubports
That's a good thing in the video explaining about that, and yes the idea is
to be able to use that with Android as well, and even Jolla's SaliishOS if
they make drivers. Or even iPhone and Windows phone maybe even, if yep
they made drivers.

Regards

Sebastian


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Sent using Dekko from my Ubuntu device

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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 10:44:04 +0000
From: Mark Griffin <marc.gray@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LUG Meeting tomorrow
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The http://bristol.lug.org.uk/ site always lists the December meet a week
early.

By always, I mean assuming I've updated it.

I'm not sure about tomorrow, but I will eventually turn up to more
meetings... honest!
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