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Today's Topics:
1. Debian package woes (Martin Moore)
2. Re: Debian package woes (Martin)
3. Re: Debian package woes (Martin Moore)
4. Package archive? (Philip Hudson)
5. Re: Package archive? (Martin Moore)
6. Re: Debian package woes (Chris Boot)
7. Listing settings in conf file (Peter Hemmings)
8. Re: Listing settings in conf file (David Smith)
9. Re: Listing settings in conf file (Peter Hemmings)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 16:43:35 -0000
From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Debian package woes
Message-ID: <2c6001d245a8$bbbd8df0$3338a9d0$@co.uk>
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Hi all,
I've got a Deb package but for some reason it only has the /usr tree in it.
Should also have /var (which is where all the useful stuff is.....)
I have plenty of similar packages and this one is (AFAICS) setup the same.
Anything obvious to check?
Cheers,
Martin.
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 17:33:55 +0000
From: Martin <inkubus@interalpha.co.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Debian package woes
Message-ID: <1479922435.18159.141.camel@interalpha.co.uk>
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On Wed, 2016-11-23 at 16:43 +0000, Martin Moore via Bristol wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've got a Deb package
When you say "got" do you mean, from the official repositories, you
built, you found on the Internet somewhere?
> but for some reason it only has the /usr tree in it.
The whole /usr/ tree or things in it.
> Should also have /var (which is where all the useful stuff is.....)
Ummmm... depends on what you mean by useful. Binaries shouldn't be
in /var/
> I have plenty of similar packages and this one is (AFAICS) setup the same.
>
> Anything obvious to check?
What do you want to check it for? Integrity? IIRC deb packages have a
list of files and checksum that they contain and ... debsums? can check
this? Or maybe it only checks them when installed.
Cheers,
- Martin
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 18:51:52 +0000
From: Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: Martin <inkubus@interalpha.co.uk>, Bristol and Bath Linux User
Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Debian package woes
Message-ID: <F4DB06DC-18B4-4A66-B363-EF1E044C000B@it-helps.co.uk>
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No, not official, one of our own.
Things in the tree as well.
Not binaries, it's web stuff.
One other thing I noticed is that it's not even creating the dirs. in the Makefile – as if it's ignoring the Makefile
I did unpack the .deb file and it only has reference to the usr tree:
.
├── bin
├── sbin
└── share
└── doc
└── mypkg-demo-asv3
├── changelog.Debian.gz
├── copyright
└── README.Debian
On 23/11/2016, 17:33, "Bristol on behalf of Martin via Bristol" <bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk on behalf of bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
On Wed, 2016-11-23 at 16:43 +0000, Martin Moore via Bristol wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've got a Deb package
When you say "got" do you mean, from the official repositories, you
built, you found on the Internet somewhere?
> but for some reason it only has the /usr tree in it.
The whole /usr/ tree or things in it.
> Should also have /var (which is where all the useful stuff is.....)
Ummmm... depends on what you mean by useful. Binaries shouldn't be
in /var/
> I have plenty of similar packages and this one is (AFAICS) setup the same.
>
> Anything obvious to check?
What do you want to check it for? Integrity? IIRC deb packages have a
list of files and checksum that they contain and ... debsums? can check
this? Or maybe it only checks them when installed.
Cheers,
- Martin
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 20:49:33 +0000
From: Philip Hudson <phil.hudson@iname.com>
To: Bristol and Bath linux Users Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Package archive?
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I'm looking for an ancient package called "hdconv", for converting
databases created by a proprietary lock-in-oriented mobile app called
HandBase.
hdconv was deleted from *BSD repos about 10 years ago, and the master
site listed there is gone, but I've seen suggestions that it was also
previoulsy included in Linux distros. Is there somewhere I can do a
search for a now-deleted package's source for, say, debian?
--
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 21:22:27 +0000
From: Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: Philip Hudson <phil.hudson@iname.com>, Bristol and Bath Linux User
Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Package archive?
Message-ID: <61E6A3F6-89DA-4BB3-9DF3-6EC7DA8D9139@it-helps.co.uk>
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You could try http://snapshot.debian.org/
On 23/11/2016, 20:49, "Bristol on behalf of Philip Hudson via Bristol" <bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk on behalf of bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
I'm looking for an ancient package called "hdconv", for converting
databases created by a proprietary lock-in-oriented mobile app called
HandBase.
hdconv was deleted from *BSD repos about 10 years ago, and the master
site listed there is gone, but I've seen suggestions that it was also
previoulsy included in Linux distros. Is there somewhere I can do a
search for a now-deleted package's source for, say, debian?
--
Phil Hudson http://hudson-it.ddns.net
Pretty Good Privacy (PGP) ID: 0x887DCA63
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 10:54:06 +0000
From: Chris Boot <bootc@bootc.net>
To: Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>, Bristol and Bath Linux User
Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Debian package woes
Message-ID: <64ba49b0-bb71-c11f-3d4e-2c1781043918@bootc.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Hi Martin,
I'm speaking as a Debian Developer here...
Packages in the official Debian archive generally don't ship files that
go into /var. This rule is broken by a a few packages, but even then
it's preferred that only empty directories or symlinks are placed in
/var. It's often better to populate things into /var from maintainer
scripts (e.g. postinst), which can work out whether or not to clobber
user data in /var based on various conditions.
Clearly, if this package isn't going into the archive, you can do
whatever you like.
Given the output of your package's file listing, I suspect the /var data
just isn't making it into the package in the first place. How is the
package being built? There are many ways to build .deb packages, and
it'll be down to these tools what or how files get into your package.
Cheers,
Chris
On 23/11/16 18:51, Martin Moore via Bristol wrote:
> No, not official, one of our own.
>
> Things in the tree as well.
>
> Not binaries, it's web stuff.
>
> One other thing I noticed is that it's not even creating the dirs. in the Makefile – as if it's ignoring the Makefile
>
> I did unpack the .deb file and it only has reference to the usr tree:
>
> .
> ├── bin
> ├── sbin
> └── share
> └── doc
> └── mypkg-demo-asv3
> ├── changelog.Debian.gz
> ├── copyright
> └── README.Debian
>
>
>
>
>
> On 23/11/2016, 17:33, "Bristol on behalf of Martin via Bristol" <bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk on behalf of bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2016-11-23 at 16:43 +0000, Martin Moore via Bristol wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've got a Deb package
>
> When you say "got" do you mean, from the official repositories, you
> built, you found on the Internet somewhere?
>
> > but for some reason it only has the /usr tree in it.
>
> The whole /usr/ tree or things in it.
>
> > Should also have /var (which is where all the useful stuff is.....)
>
> Ummmm... depends on what you mean by useful. Binaries shouldn't be
> in /var/
>
> > I have plenty of similar packages and this one is (AFAICS) setup the same.
> >
> > Anything obvious to check?
>
> What do you want to check it for? Integrity? IIRC deb packages have a
> list of files and checksum that they contain and ... debsums? can check
> this? Or maybe it only checks them when installed.
>
> Cheers,
> - Martin
>
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 11:08:51 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Listing settings in conf file
Message-ID: <2f702504-9ac5-9ad0-0a22-0c015a380d15@virginmedia.com>
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Hi,
Just a quick one in your tea break(s)!
A l o n g time ago I was shown how to list a config file settings
without all the info but have forgotten how to do it as I am only a
"dabbler"!
As I cannot seem to find the right terms to "Google" it, could someone
enlighten me?
Thanks
--
Peter H
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 11:28:17 +0000
From: David Smith <David.Smith@imgtec.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Listing settings in conf file
Message-ID:
<15A9D35B5490FC49AC0524AE3A085F082FCB3230@HHMAIL01.hh.imgtec.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> From: Bristol [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of
> Peter Hemmings via Bristol
> A l o n g time ago I was shown how to list a config file settings without all the
> info but have forgotten how to do it as I am only a "dabbler"!
>
> As I cannot seem to find the right terms to "Google" it, could someone
> enlighten me?
Not sure I understand the question. What sort of config file?
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 11:35:44 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: David Smith <David.Smith@imgtec.com>, Bristol and Bath Linux User
Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Listing settings in conf file
Message-ID: <d6bbe006-bf25-b490-830b-5cf5c98386c4@virginmedia.com>
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On 24/11/16 11:28, David Smith via Bristol wrote:
>> From: Bristol [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of
>> Peter Hemmings via Bristol
>> A l o n g time ago I was shown how to list a config file settings without all the
>> info but have forgotten how to do it as I am only a "dabbler"!
>>
>> As I cannot seem to find the right terms to "Google" it, could someone
>> enlighten me?
>
> Not sure I understand the question. What sort of config file?
I have a motion.conf file and its quite long, so just wanted to show
what the actual settings settings I had set and not go through the whole
file searching through it.
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Just going out so will be a delay in getting back
Regards
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