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Bristol Digest, Vol 654, Issue 4

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1. Re: Bristol Digest, Vol 654, Issue 3 (Peter King)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 19:35:40 +0100
From: Peter King <peterking1990@gmail.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Bristol Digest, Vol 654, Issue 3
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Hello all,


I came across an 2009 WD My Cloud NAS being thrown out, and had heard they
run Debian Wheezy, so I thought it'd be a good chance to dive more into
Linux following this guide:
http://www.scramworks.net/hacking-mycloud.html Unfortunately, it was quite
dead, but I took the WD 500GB HDDs out. I thought they might be useful for
someone in the group?

I'm also looking to sell off two 17" Dell screens: they pivot 90 degrees so
make good second monitors. I live in Bath if anyone's here.
Going cheap!

Nice to meet you all.

Peter

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> 1. Keeping pppd running (jpff)
> 2. Re: Keeping pppd running (mark chard)
> 3. Re: Accessing Linux Samba from Mac (Steve King)
> 4. Re: Keeping pppd running (Amias Channer)
> 5. Re: Keeping pppd running (Steve King)
> 6. Re: Accessing Linux Samba from Mac (Martin Moore)
> 7. Re: Fwd: Keeping pppd running (Chris Boot)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 14:58:16 +0100
> From: jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk>
> To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> Subject: [bristol] Keeping pppd running
> Message-ID: <878-Wed27Jul2016145816+0100-jpff@codemist.co.uk>
>
> I am sure this is trivial but I cannot remember/find how to do it!
>
> I have FTTC serviced my a Debian box running pppd. The problem is
> recently the connection is being dropped by BT (thanks) and not
> coming back in time for pppd to restore the link. Off for say 2 hrs or
> 30 mins. Last time was at 3am so not sure when it returned.
>
> I would like to restart pppd is it is not running, driven from say
> crontab. I can use ps to see if it exists but I cannot find how to
> script this. What am I missing? I seem to remember some log-watching
> program from earlier, or is there a simple way to say
> IF not_running(pppd) THEN start(pppd) FI
>
> Sorry to ask such a simple thing.....
> ==John ffitch
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 15:42:32 +0100
> From: mark chard <machard.1984@gmail.com>
> To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
> jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Keeping pppd running
> Message-ID:
> <CAA7DJ2mY4g53ETgc02n+M0qEiKxgj60sacz=uosg3+4fYW=
> rCQ@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi jpff, I have forwarded your message to a colleague who is the maintainer
> of this package in debian, he will respond to you shortly.
>
> On 27 Jul 2016 2:58 pm, "jpff via Bristol" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > I am sure this is trivial but I cannot remember/find how to do it!
> >
> > I have FTTC serviced my a Debian box running pppd. The problem is
> > recently the connection is being dropped by BT (thanks) and not
> > coming back in time for pppd to restore the link. Off for say 2 hrs or
> > 30 mins. Last time was at 3am so not sure when it returned.
> >
> > I would like to restart pppd is it is not running, driven from say
> > crontab. I can use ps to see if it exists but I cannot find how to
> > script this. What am I missing? I seem to remember some log-watching
> > program from earlier, or is there a simple way to say
> > IF not_running(pppd) THEN start(pppd) FI
> >
> > Sorry to ask such a simple thing.....
> > ==John ffitch
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 15:58:54 +0100
> From: "Steve King" <debian@invux.com>
> To: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>, "Bristol and Bath Linux
> User Group" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Accessing Linux Samba from Mac
> Message-ID:
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>
> > I’m trying to map a Debian drive from El Capitan.
> >
> > I’ve installed Samba on the server. However the Mac won’t
> > authenticate. I know Samba is running as I get a ‘login’ dialog. If I
> > stop Samba I don’t.
> >
> > Can’t find any server logs. Not quite sure what should go into the
> > ‘workgroup’ in smb.conf.
> >
> > Any pointers?
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Martin
> >
>
> Obvious stuff:
> Can you access the share using smbclient from linux?
> Or explorer from windows?
>
> Did you create a samba account with smbpasswd -a ?
>
> --
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 16:03:58 +0100
> From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
> To: mark chard <machard.1984@gmail.com>, Bristol and Bath Linux User
> Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Keeping pppd running
> Message-ID:
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>
> Hello Mark,
>
> wouldn't this be better done by a init/upstart/systemd configuration
> to run it as a service ?
>
> All of these susbsystems have options for services to be run to always
> restart on failure and this way you would get it serviced by events
> rather than polling for it with cron,
> this has the advantage that those subsystems have robust mechanisms
> for dealing with failed services that you won't have to reimplement in
> your cron scripts.
>
> you also get better integration with the rest of the os if you do it
> this way, with the cron solution it will cause problems when switching
> runlevels and that sort of thing
>
> Cheers
> Amias
>
>
>
> On 27 July 2016 at 15:42, mark chard via Bristol
> <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
> > Hi jpff, I have forwarded your message to a colleague who is the
> maintainer
> > of this package in debian, he will respond to you shortly.
> >
> >
> > On 27 Jul 2016 2:58 pm, "jpff via Bristol" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I am sure this is trivial but I cannot remember/find how to do it!
> >>
> >> I have FTTC serviced my a Debian box running pppd. The problem is
> >> recently the connection is being dropped by BT (thanks) and not
> >> coming back in time for pppd to restore the link. Off for say 2 hrs or
> >> 30 mins. Last time was at 3am so not sure when it returned.
> >>
> >> I would like to restart pppd is it is not running, driven from say
> >> crontab. I can use ps to see if it exists but I cannot find how to
> >> script this. What am I missing? I seem to remember some log-watching
> >> program from earlier, or is there a simple way to say
> >> IF not_running(pppd) THEN start(pppd) FI
> >>
> >> Sorry to ask such a simple thing.....
> >> ==John ffitch
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 16:04:46 +0100
> From: "Steve King" <debian@invux.com>
> To: "jpff" <jpff@codemist.co.uk>, "Bristol and Bath Linux User Group"
> <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Keeping pppd running
> Message-ID:
> <8083fd1836708365c213598967d2751f.squirrel@dazzle.invux.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>
> > I am sure this is trivial but I cannot remember/find how to do it!
> >
> > I have FTTC serviced my a Debian box running pppd. The problem is
> > recently the connection is being dropped by BT (thanks) and not
> > coming back in time for pppd to restore the link. Off for say 2 hrs or
> > 30 mins. Last time was at 3am so not sure when it returned.
> >
> > I would like to restart pppd is it is not running, driven from say
> > crontab. I can use ps to see if it exists but I cannot find how to
> > script this. What am I missing? I seem to remember some log-watching
> > program from earlier, or is there a simple way to say
> > IF not_running(pppd) THEN start(pppd) FI
> >
> > Sorry to ask such a simple thing.....
> > ==John ffitch
> >
>
> Did you use pppoeconf to set it up?
>
> If so it will have an entry in /etc/network/interfaces:
>
> auto dsl-provider
> iface dsl-provider inet ppp
> pre-up /bin/ip link set eth0 up # line maintained by pppoeconf
> provider dsl-provider
>
> auto should bring the interface up at boot time.
>
> and I *think* it will bring it up if it goes down.
>
> If that isn't the case, and your cron script finds the interface down
> ifup dsl-provider
> will bring it back up.
>
> (Probably need to experiment with that myself)
>
> --
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 16:08:40 +0100
> From: Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
> To: <debian@invux.com>, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
> <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Accessing Linux Samba from Mac
> Message-ID: <04AEA285-D1BD-4C45-AFA9-80D6FD586EF7@it-helps.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> ➢ Did you create a samba account with smbpasswd -a ?
> Nope. Have done now and I'm in. Cheers all.
>
>
> Martin.
>
> On 27/07/2016, 15:58, "Steve King" <debian@invux.com> wrote:
>
> > I’m trying to map a Debian drive from El Capitan.
> >
> > I’ve installed Samba on the server. However the Mac won’t
> > authenticate. I know Samba is running as I get a ‘login’ dialog.
> If I
> > stop Samba I don’t.
> >
> > Can’t find any server logs. Not quite sure what should go into the
> > ‘workgroup’ in smb.conf.
> >
> > Any pointers?
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Martin
> >
>
> Obvious stuff:
> Can you access the share using smbclient from linux?
> Or explorer from windows?
>
> Did you create a samba account with smbpasswd -a ?
>
> --
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 18:33:29 +0100
> From: Chris Boot <bootc@bootc.net>
> To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Fwd: Keeping pppd running
> Message-ID: <f0e9158b-69b2-d8bd-49ed-bdb2b99b0225@bootc.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> [ please excuse me replying to a forward and breaking the threading ]
>
> On 27/07/16 15:41, mark chard wrote:
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: "jpff via Bristol" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > Date: 27 Jul 2016 2:58 pm
> > Subject: [bristol] Keeping pppd running
> > To: <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>>
> >
> > I am sure this is trivial but I cannot remember/find how to do it!
> >
> > I have FTTC serviced my a Debian box running pppd. The problem is
> > recently the connection is being dropped by BT (thanks) and not
> > coming back in time for pppd to restore the link. Off for say 2 hrs or
> > 30 mins. Last time was at 3am so not sure when it returned.
> >
> > I would like to restart pppd is it is not running, driven from say
> > crontab. I can use ps to see if it exists but I cannot find how to
> > script this. What am I missing? I seem to remember some log-watching
> > program from earlier, or is there a simple way to say
> > IF not_running(pppd) THEN start(pppd) FI
>
> Hi jpff,
>
> As Mark suggested, I maintain pppd in Debian. I use it to run several
> FTTC lines over PPPoE too. The trick here is to not have pppd give up
> and exit in the first place. You probably want to include lines like the
> following into your peer file in /etc/ppp/peers:
>
> # Restart link on failure.
> maxfail 0
>
> # Use LCP pings, once a second, to detect failure - 10 pings failed ==
> offline
> lcp-echo-failure 10
> lcp-echo-interval 1
>
> # Hang around indefinitely
> persist
> holdoff 1
>
> You may also run into the situation if your ISP has trouble and BT give
> up talking to them: BT will accept your login and put you on a "default
> accept" captive portal. Unfortunately you can only reliably detect this
> if you have a static IP address and your ISP always uses the same IP
> address on their end. I know AAISP do this, so I can easily overcome
> this by adding to my peers file:
>
> A.B.C.D:81.187.81.187
>
> Where A.B.C.D is my static IPv4 address for that line, and 81.187.81.187
> is *always* AAISP's remote end on PPP sessions. With this in place, pppd
> will reject the IP address offered to it by BT's default accept.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Chris
>
> --
> Chris Boot
> bootc@bootc.net
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Today's Topics:

1. Keeping pppd running (jpff)
2. Re: Keeping pppd running (mark chard)
3. Re: Accessing Linux Samba from Mac (Steve King)
4. Re: Keeping pppd running (Amias Channer)
5. Re: Keeping pppd running (Steve King)
6. Re: Accessing Linux Samba from Mac (Martin Moore)
7. Re: Fwd: Keeping pppd running (Chris Boot)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 14:58:16 +0100
From: jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: [bristol] Keeping pppd running
Message-ID: <878-Wed27Jul2016145816+0100-jpff@codemist.co.uk>

I am sure this is trivial but I cannot remember/find how to do it!

I have FTTC serviced my a Debian box running pppd. The problem is
recently the connection is being dropped by BT (thanks) and not
coming back in time for pppd to restore the link. Off for say 2 hrs or
30 mins. Last time was at 3am so not sure when it returned.

I would like to restart pppd is it is not running, driven from say
crontab. I can use ps to see if it exists but I cannot find how to
script this. What am I missing? I seem to remember some log-watching
program from earlier, or is there a simple way to say
IF not_running(pppd) THEN start(pppd) FI

Sorry to ask such a simple thing.....
==John ffitch

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 15:42:32 +0100
From: mark chard <machard.1984@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Keeping pppd running
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi jpff, I have forwarded your message to a colleague who is the maintainer
of this package in debian, he will respond to you shortly.

On 27 Jul 2016 2:58 pm, "jpff via Bristol" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
wrote:

> I am sure this is trivial but I cannot remember/find how to do it!
>
> I have FTTC serviced my a Debian box running pppd. The problem is
> recently the connection is being dropped by BT (thanks) and not
> coming back in time for pppd to restore the link. Off for say 2 hrs or
> 30 mins. Last time was at 3am so not sure when it returned.
>
> I would like to restart pppd is it is not running, driven from say
> crontab. I can use ps to see if it exists but I cannot find how to
> script this. What am I missing? I seem to remember some log-watching
> program from earlier, or is there a simple way to say
> IF not_running(pppd) THEN start(pppd) FI
>
> Sorry to ask such a simple thing.....
> ==John ffitch
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bristol mailing list
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Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 15:58:54 +0100
From: "Steve King" <debian@invux.com>
To: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>, "Bristol and Bath Linux
User Group" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Accessing Linux Samba from Mac
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

> I’m trying to map a Debian drive from El Capitan.
>
> I’ve installed Samba on the server. However the Mac won’t
> authenticate. I know Samba is running as I get a ‘login’ dialog. If I
> stop Samba I don’t.
>
> Can’t find any server logs. Not quite sure what should go into the
> ‘workgroup’ in smb.conf.
>
> Any pointers?
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Martin
>

Obvious stuff:
Can you access the share using smbclient from linux?
Or explorer from windows?

Did you create a samba account with smbpasswd -a ?

--
Steve

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 16:03:58 +0100
From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
To: mark chard <machard.1984@gmail.com>, Bristol and Bath Linux User
Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Keeping pppd running
Message-ID:
<CAMgU7XU7+=xT0YM78bdSbotR7OexAaA-kCkionE7dOdjuwwDFA@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hello Mark,

wouldn't this be better done by a init/upstart/systemd configuration
to run it as a service ?

All of these susbsystems have options for services to be run to always
restart on failure and this way you would get it serviced by events
rather than polling for it with cron,
this has the advantage that those subsystems have robust mechanisms
for dealing with failed services that you won't have to reimplement in
your cron scripts.

you also get better integration with the rest of the os if you do it
this way, with the cron solution it will cause problems when switching
runlevels and that sort of thing

Cheers
Amias

On 27 July 2016 at 15:42, mark chard via Bristol
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
> Hi jpff, I have forwarded your message to a colleague who is the maintainer
> of this package in debian, he will respond to you shortly.
>
>
> On 27 Jul 2016 2:58 pm, "jpff via Bristol" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> wrote:
>>
>> I am sure this is trivial but I cannot remember/find how to do it!
>>
>> I have FTTC serviced my a Debian box running pppd. The problem is
>> recently the connection is being dropped by BT (thanks) and not
>> coming back in time for pppd to restore the link. Off for say 2 hrs or
>> 30 mins. Last time was at 3am so not sure when it returned.
>>
>> I would like to restart pppd is it is not running, driven from say
>> crontab. I can use ps to see if it exists but I cannot find how to
>> script this. What am I missing? I seem to remember some log-watching
>> program from earlier, or is there a simple way to say
>> IF not_running(pppd) THEN start(pppd) FI
>>
>> Sorry to ask such a simple thing.....
>> ==John ffitch
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bristol mailing list
>> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 16:04:46 +0100
From: "Steve King" <debian@invux.com>
To: "jpff" <jpff@codemist.co.uk>, "Bristol and Bath Linux User Group"
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Keeping pppd running
Message-ID:
<8083fd1836708365c213598967d2751f.squirrel@dazzle.invux.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

> I am sure this is trivial but I cannot remember/find how to do it!
>
> I have FTTC serviced my a Debian box running pppd. The problem is
> recently the connection is being dropped by BT (thanks) and not
> coming back in time for pppd to restore the link. Off for say 2 hrs or
> 30 mins. Last time was at 3am so not sure when it returned.
>
> I would like to restart pppd is it is not running, driven from say
> crontab. I can use ps to see if it exists but I cannot find how to
> script this. What am I missing? I seem to remember some log-watching
> program from earlier, or is there a simple way to say
> IF not_running(pppd) THEN start(pppd) FI
>
> Sorry to ask such a simple thing.....
> ==John ffitch
>

Did you use pppoeconf to set it up?

If so it will have an entry in /etc/network/interfaces:

auto dsl-provider
iface dsl-provider inet ppp
pre-up /bin/ip link set eth0 up # line maintained by pppoeconf
provider dsl-provider

auto should bring the interface up at boot time.

and I *think* it will bring it up if it goes down.

If that isn't the case, and your cron script finds the interface down
ifup dsl-provider
will bring it back up.

(Probably need to experiment with that myself)

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 16:08:40 +0100
From: Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: <debian@invux.com>, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Accessing Linux Samba from Mac
Message-ID: <04AEA285-D1BD-4C45-AFA9-80D6FD586EF7@it-helps.co.uk>
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➢ Did you create a samba account with smbpasswd -a ?
Nope. Have done now and I'm in. Cheers all.


Martin.

On 27/07/2016, 15:58, "Steve King" <debian@invux.com> wrote:

> I’m trying to map a Debian drive from El Capitan.
>
> I’ve installed Samba on the server. However the Mac won’t
> authenticate. I know Samba is running as I get a ‘login’ dialog. If I
> stop Samba I don’t.
>
> Can’t find any server logs. Not quite sure what should go into the
> ‘workgroup’ in smb.conf.
>
> Any pointers?
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Martin
>

Obvious stuff:
Can you access the share using smbclient from linux?
Or explorer from windows?

Did you create a samba account with smbpasswd -a ?

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 18:33:29 +0100
From: Chris Boot <bootc@bootc.net>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Fwd: Keeping pppd running
Message-ID: <f0e9158b-69b2-d8bd-49ed-bdb2b99b0225@bootc.net>
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[ please excuse me replying to a forward and breaking the threading ]

On 27/07/16 15:41, mark chard wrote:
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "jpff via Bristol" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Date: 27 Jul 2016 2:58 pm
> Subject: [bristol] Keeping pppd running
> To: <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>>
>
> I am sure this is trivial but I cannot remember/find how to do it!
>
> I have FTTC serviced my a Debian box running pppd. The problem is
> recently the connection is being dropped by BT (thanks) and not
> coming back in time for pppd to restore the link. Off for say 2 hrs or
> 30 mins. Last time was at 3am so not sure when it returned.
>
> I would like to restart pppd is it is not running, driven from say
> crontab. I can use ps to see if it exists but I cannot find how to
> script this. What am I missing? I seem to remember some log-watching
> program from earlier, or is there a simple way to say
> IF not_running(pppd) THEN start(pppd) FI

Hi jpff,

As Mark suggested, I maintain pppd in Debian. I use it to run several
FTTC lines over PPPoE too. The trick here is to not have pppd give up
and exit in the first place. You probably want to include lines like the
following into your peer file in /etc/ppp/peers:

# Restart link on failure.
maxfail 0

# Use LCP pings, once a second, to detect failure - 10 pings failed ==
offline
lcp-echo-failure 10
lcp-echo-interval 1

# Hang around indefinitely
persist
holdoff 1

You may also run into the situation if your ISP has trouble and BT give
up talking to them: BT will accept your login and put you on a "default
accept" captive portal. Unfortunately you can only reliably detect this
if you have a static IP address and your ISP always uses the same IP
address on their end. I know AAISP do this, so I can easily overcome
this by adding to my peers file:

A.B.C.D:81.187.81.187

Where A.B.C.D is my static IPv4 address for that line, and 81.187.81.187
is *always* AAISP's remote end on PPP sessions. With this in place, pppd
will reject the IP address offered to it by BT's default accept.

Hope this helps!

Chris

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 12:44:22 +0100
From: Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Accessing Linux Samba from Mac
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I'm trying to map a Debian drive from El Capitan.

I've installed Samba on the server. However the Mac won't authenticate. I know Samba is running as I get a 'login' dialog. If I stop Samba I don't.

Can't find any server logs. Not quite sure what should go into the 'workgroup' in smb.conf.

Any pointers?


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Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 20:47:35 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Scanner Driver (Epson V550) - sort of solved
Message-ID: <f86d6f9a-5354-a14e-46c4-99b52c70d133@virginmedia.com>
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> Nearly about to give up and install windoze again but know it would be a
> real pain to install and use.
>


I didn't, but install a new clean fc24!

Using the v550 bundle it did the same!!

Found the gt-x770 plugin in the V500, installed it and it works (I
assume not with all v550 functions.

I cannot seem the plugin in the newer "v550 bundle" and it does not get
loaded.

At least it now functions as a basic scanner.

Apologies I did cross post the query on the fedora forum in a fit of
desperation but nobody has come back with reasons why I could not get it
running with the V550 S/W.

I had thought problems with H/W scanners were a thing of the past.

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2. Re: Open Source Good News???? (not precisely Linux, but; )
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3. Linux Presentation Day (LPD) - October 22nd (Peter Hemmings)
4. Re: Linux Presentation Day (LPD) - October 22nd (Sebastian)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 22:41:54 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Scanner Driver (Epson V550)
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Update;

I gave up and put on Fedora 24 thinking that all would be well, and its
the same after loading the driver from the Epson site!

It (fc24) now does not detect the scanner using xsane.

As said previously, the original fc23 (still works) and has a plugin:

iscan-plugin-gt-x770

I then found this:

http://www.linux-hardware-guide.com/2013-06-16-epson-perfection-v500-photo-scanner

Which confirms I need it BUT it seems to have been on the "Avasys" site
which is now all Chinese.
On checking the epson site I cannot seem to find it.

On doing "export SANE_DEBUG_DLL=3"

Then running xsane I see:

[dll] add_backend: adding backend `epkowa'
[dll] sane_get_devices
[dll] load: searching backend `epkowa' in `/usr/lib64/sane'
[dll] load: dlopen()ing `/usr/lib64/sane/libsane-epkowa.so.1'
[dll] init: initializing backend `epkowa'
[dll] load: searching backend `xerox_mfp' in `/usr/lib64/sane'
[dll] load: dlopen()ing `/usr/lib64/sane/libsane-xerox_mfp.so.1


So I assume epkowa is OK

but:

[dll] sane_get_devices: found 0 devices


and that is why nothing happens.

So I need the "iscan-plugin-gt-x770" to see if that is the problem!?

Must go now my brain erts!!

Will not be able to do more till Sunday so I will give you a rest

Regards

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 06:23:18 +0100
From: Philip Groves <philip.groves@gmail.com>
To: Winnie.lacesso@bristol.ac.uk, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Open Source Good News???? (not precisely Linux,
but; )
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Yes, it is good news. Way to go, Bulgaria!

On 21/07/2016, Winnie Lacesso via Bristol <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>
> Good news?
>
> "Bulgaria Got a Law Requiring Open Source"
>
> http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/29.61.html#subj11
>
> "... require all software written for the government to be open-source and
> to be developed as such in a public repository."
>
> "With opening the source we hope to reduce those [security] incidents, and
> to detect bad information security practices in the development process,
> rather than when it's too late."
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:34:58 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Linux Presentation Day (LPD) - October 22nd
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On 19/07/16 18:33, Sebastian via Bristol wrote:
> Another event and in October 2016, yes probably! This is after Alex
> sparked my interest last week with his forwarded email about Linux
> Presentation Day ( http://linux-presentation-day.org ) to our mailing
> list, but also since already have someone else who is also interested in
> helping to organise. I am not sure who else though be that as
> organisers or as on the day helpers, so if that's you please inform me
> of that as soon as possible. I emailed the general event idea last
> week in a email that started off as a response to Chris and then became
> quite long as well with my general event idea. As a result probably not
> many of you have read that email properly. Since time would be much
> less shorter than last time round to organise an event, and also since I
> would like to organise something that is more general and bigger than
> last time as well, with Creative Commons in there as well not just Linux
> and open source, I have already started trying to get an event organised.

As stated previously the main problem with "Linuxlive" lack of
advertising to the targeted audience and over complication with
variations of produced OS's which LPD's seem to address.

I was told that to have a successful presentation you must KISS (keep it
simple stupid!).

It is already beginning to get get late, after the holiday will be too late.
I think that any BBLUG organised event should adhere to the "Simple
Agenda" in the above link:

simple agenda

People who do not know Linux and want a first useful impression do not
need sophisticated presentations of special possibilities. What they
need is mostly very simple from the perspective of an experienced Linux
user. This means that a lot of people can participate in the event as
demonstrator or contact person even without any prior training.

One person needs to volunteer in the next few days, get started, AND NOT
MAKE IT OVER COMPLICATED.

I would be happy to help on the day as I am sure others would.

It would be good to have an LPD in Bristol (or Bath) and hope it goes
ahead.

Unfortunately I will not be at the KT tomorrow so cannot discuss it
further.

>
> Best Regards
>
> Sebastian

Regards

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 12:09:13 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Linux Presentation Day (LPD) - October 22nd
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Hi Peter

Thank You for your response :), and replying inline below:

On Friday, 22 July 2016 09:34:58 BST, Peter Hemmings via Bristol
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
> On 19/07/16 18:33, Sebastian via Bristol wrote:
>> Another event and in October 2016, yes probably! This is after Alex
>> sparked my interest last week with his forwarded email about Linux
>> Presentation Day ( http://linux-presentation-day.org ) to our mailing
>> list, but also since already have someone else who is also interested in
>> helping to organise. I am not sure who else though be that as
>> organisers or as on the day helpers, so if that's you please inform me
>> of that as soon as possible. I emailed the general event idea last
>> week in a email that started off as a response to Chris and then became
>> quite long as well with my general event idea. As a result probably not
>> many of you have read that email properly. Since time would be much
>> less shorter than last time round to organise an event, and also since I
>> would like to organise something that is more general and bigger than
>> last time as well, with Creative Commons in there as well not just Linux
>> and open source, I have already started trying to get an event organised.
>
> As stated previously the main problem with "Linuxlive" lack of
> advertising to the targeted audience

Yes indeed to that, and that's why that should be a main focus once a venue
date and time is sorted out. Regarding a venue I already contacted one
early this week, but unfortunatley haven't received a response. Maybe I
forgot/underestimated how difficult it really is to get a venue in Bristol,
based on last time. As for possible funding/sponsership something I am
thinking about as well, and it seems Linux Presentation Day does not help
with that going by their website.

and over complication with
> variations of produced OS's which LPD's seem to address.

I know we disagreed basically quite a bit last time when it came to, how
many distros and interfaces to have, and which ones a bit as well, but I
don't think showing a few distros and interfaces is a bad thing, unless
they are to aimed at techi's. Also whichever and how many certain people
are shown, they are not just going to go to a Linux distro etc. However
maybe even with a few distributions, should try and get not that technical
event visitors, interested mostly in one specific distribution such as
Ubuntu at an event. Otherwise like with Linux Live they are meant to
decide them selves, but they don't really know as such what they are really
deciding on, and which is apparently the better possible option for them
(altough that was mostly for the usb sticks I think). People can go to
other distros and interfaces once more experienced anyway, if they would
like to do that them selves in the future, like quite a few Desktop LInux
users seem to do. Ubuntu possibly also has a bit of an advantage now over
other distros as well depending on how it would be shown etc at an event
and talked about, and that's well Ubuntu convergence, and something else as
well.

You put produced OS's, but to be clear for the event I proposed in the
other email etc: No woudn't be going down the remasters route like we did
with Linux Live, but instead offical media, for any discs/usbs that are
offically given away at such an event. That also gives more time for
anyone who is helping to organise the event to focus more on important
things that matter such as the marketting/promotion of the event.

Also like with Linux Live installs won't be done at the event, unless maybe
time and with certain specific visitors, but instead like with Linux Live
it would have the intention of people getting the feel for what Desktop
Linux etc is about :). Can promote the idea like I belive we did last
time, that installs can happen at the usual LUG meeting.

>
> I was told that to have a successful presentation you must KISS (keep it
> simple stupid!).

Yes doing that is usaully good, but even with something a bit bigger, as in
some more things that are being shown etc, can still do that :).

>
> It is already beginning to get get late, after the holiday will be too late.

I thought that you probably would think that not enough time. I personally
don't have that many plans for the summer etc, so could put in a lot of
time organising an event. As a result I belive that even with the short
time period that it can be doable. However more so if can get important
things sorted out properly soon such as a venue, and any possible
funding/sponsership. I mean that could take a month or so trying to sort
that out depending on how things would go, if still going to indeed have an
event.

> I think that any BBLUG organised event should adhere to the "Simple
> Agenda" in the above link:
>
> simple agenda
>
> People who do not know Linux and want a first useful impression do not
> need sophisticated presentations of special possibilities. What they
> need is mostly very simple from the perspective of an experienced Linux
> user. This means that a lot of people can participate in the event as
> demonstrator or contact person even without any prior training.
>

I agree with your above simple agenda.

> One person needs to volunteer in the next few days, get started, AND NOT
> MAKE IT OVER COMPLICATED.
>
> I would be happy to help on the day as I am sure others would.

Ok thanks :).
>
> It would be good to have an LPD in Bristol (or Bath) and hope it goes
> ahead.
Indeed!
>
> Unfortunately I will not be at the KT tomorrow so cannot discuss it
> further.
>
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> Sebastian
>
> Regards
>

P.S

I was giving the Hereford LUG website a proper good look earlier this week
since they had done a Linux Presentation Day before, however WOW they
really have done quite a few past events before, and that going by their
website seemed quite successful. Why can't our LUG start being more like
that?


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 13:37:21 -0400
From: Matt Dainty <matt@bodgit-n-scarper.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] SSL Certs
Message-ID: <20160720173721.GG13102@simulant.bodgit-n-scarper.com>
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* David Smith via Bristol <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> [2016-07-20 11:28:11]:
> > From: Bristol [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Alex
> > Butcher via Bristol
> > Otherwise, you're basically looking at:
> > * Trustworthy status - can you be reasonably assured that their processes
> > and infrastructure are reliable and secure enough so as to not issue
> > fraudulent certs?
>
> Just as a point-of-interest, is this actually relevant? I don't think it
> actually increases the security of the system, since the security of the
> system is limited by the least-trustworthy CA that has its root certificates
> in the users' browsers, isn't it? Can't any CA issue a certificate for any
> website, even if another CA has already issued one?

There are additional steps you can take to prevent falling victim to that,
such as publishing DANE TLSA records, which basically means publishing a
fingerprint of the certificate in DNS. Of course, this requires the client
to look this information up, and should therefore also employ DNSSEC to
prevent tampering of DNS records.

See RFC 6698.

Matt

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Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 09:01:55 +0100 (BST)
From: Winnie Lacesso <Winnie.Lacesso@bristol.ac.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: [bristol] Open Source Good News???? (not precisely Linux,
but;)
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Good news?

"Bulgaria Got a Law Requiring Open Source"

http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/29.61.html#subj11

"... require all software written for the government to be open-source and
to be developed as such in a public repository."

"With opening the source we hope to reduce those [security] incidents, and
to detect bad information security practices in the development process,
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4. Re: SSL Certs (David Smith)
5. Re: SSL Certs (Martin Moore)
6. Re: SSL Certs (nick robinson)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 13:56:54 +0100
From: cms <cms@beatworm.co.uk>
To: Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>, Bristol and Bath Linux User
Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] SSL Certs
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On 20/07/16 11:41, Martin Moore via Bristol wrote:
> No – by share I mean same cert on multiple servers to save money.
>
> I've installed letsencrpyt on one server – very simple and lists subdomains to select/deselect as opposed to full wildcard.
>
> I'll stick with them for the moment .
>
> Cheers,
>
> Martin.
>
>
Cool. I use it for everything. You just can't automatically scale it to
any subdomain, although the setup time for a new host is fairly small,
it can be minutes not seconds on limited hardware. Not really a problem
for most use cases.

--
Regards,
cms

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 15:49:28 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Scanner Driver (Epson V550)
Message-ID: <54ea1a67-bbe6-0cfe-876a-5d4e1b81eabc@virginmedia.com>
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Update:

On 20/07/16 10:18, Peter Hemmings via Bristol wrote:
> Update -some basic problems
>
> On 20/07/16 08:17, Peter Hemmings via Bristol wrote:
>> Hi Peter
>>> The packages I installed looked different. They are
>>> iscan-2.3.0.1-1.usb0.1.ltd7.x86_64,rpm
>>> iscan-data-1.36.0-1.noarch.rpm
>>> iscan-network-nt-1.1.1-1.x86_64.rpm
>>> available from here
>>> http://support.epson.net/linux/en/iscan_c.html
>>>
>>> The FAQ here
>>> http://www.epson.co.uk/gb/en/viewcon/corporatesite/products/mainunits/faq/3458/2610
>>>
>>>
>>> says that the network package is only needed for scanning over ethernet
I have removed iscan firmware and data.

My good OS has same iscan-data and iscan so installed them from earlier
"bundle".
My working OS does not have the network package,but does have a plugin
"GT-X770".
I now have the following:

[peter@localhost ~]$ rpm -q iscan
iscan-2.30.1-1.usb0.1.ltdl7.x86_64
[peter@localhost ~]$ rpm -q iscan-data
iscan-data-1.36.0-1.noarch
[peter@localhost ~]$ rpm -q iscan-network-nt
iscan-network-nt-1.1.1-1.x86_64
[peter@localhost ~]$

[peter@localhost ~]$ usb-devices

(part)

T: Bus=02 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=03 Cnt=01 Dev#= 2 Spd=480 MxCh= 0
D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
P: Vendor=04b8 ProdID=0130 Rev=01.00
S: Manufacturer=EPSON
S: Product=EPSON Scanner
C: #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr=2mA
I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=(none)

It still does not work, could you confirm your driver above is Driver=

I assume you has a "epkowa" listed as the driver in "usb-devices!?

Is the GT-X770 likely to be needed as I read "plugins" were "extras"?

>>>
>>> Might be worth trying these packages rather than the ones you
>>> currently have
>>> installed
>
>>> Regards
>>> Dave
>>>

Nearly about to give up and install windoze again but know it would be a
real pain to install and use.


--
Peter H

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 16:08:07 +0100 (BST)
From: Alex Butcher <lug@assursys.co.uk>
To: Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>, Bristol and Bath Linux
User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] SSL Certs
Message-ID:
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2016, Martin Moore via Bristol wrote:

> No – by share I mean same cert on multiple servers to save money.

Be careful what you wish for; the more servers a cert (and corresponding
key) is installed upon, the more ways there are for somebody to steal them
and use them to impersonate or MITM secure connections. And then, when they
do, you have to get the replacement key and and cert on all the servers it's
shared with.

I use StartSSL.com's free certificates for personal use (I'm not sure I'd
trust their infrastructure for anything more important, though).

Otherwise, you're basically looking at:

* Browser compatibility - i.e. which browsers/OSs have the necessary root
certificates in their certificate store so as to be able to validate your
certifcate without giving errors and warnings to your users. See
<https://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-certificate-compatibility.html> and the
links at the bottom.

* Trustworthy status - can you be reasonably assured that their
processes and infrastructure are reliable and secure enough so as to not
issue fraudulent certs?

* Cost, of course!

HTH,
Alex

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 15:27:32 +0000
From: David Smith <David.Smith@imgtec.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] SSL Certs
Message-ID:
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> From: Bristol [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Alex
> Butcher via Bristol
> Otherwise, you're basically looking at:
> * Trustworthy status - can you be reasonably assured that their processes
> and infrastructure are reliable and secure enough so as to not issue
> fraudulent certs?

Just as a point-of-interest, is this actually relevant? I don't think it actually increases the security of the system, since the security of the system is limited by the least-trustworthy CA that has its root certificates in the users' browsers, isn't it? Can't any CA issue a certificate for any website, even if another CA has already issued one?

For example:

Joe Bloggs is the legitimate owner of www.bloggs.com. He has bought an SSL certificate from trustworthy-ssl-certificates.com.

Dr Nefario wants to attack the website. He goes to dodgy-ssl-certificates.com and buys a certificate identifying his server as a legitimate host, and poisons DNS, hijacks WiFi or uses some other mechanism to redirect traffic to his site. His server provides the dodgy-ssl-certificates.com SSL certificate to identify itself, and because dodgy-ssl-certificates.com also have their root certificate installed in the vast majority of users' browsers, the users' browsers accept it as a valid host (especially as the number of users that will actively police their browsers' root CA certificates is so close to zero as to make no difference).

I don't see how having your SSL certificate issued by a "trustworthy" CA increases the security of your site, unless you persuade all the users to disable the other CA's root certificates in their browsers.

Unless I've completely misunderstood how this works?

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 16:40:00 +0100
From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: "'David Smith'" <David.Smith@imgtec.com>, "'Bristol and Bath Linux
User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] SSL Certs
Message-ID: <013101d1e29c$fa4e3520$eeea9f60$@co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Ironically, I'm not really fussed about security!

We don't keep anything of that type on our servers, but some new stuff insists on SSL - e.g. chrome browser and geolocation stuff. It's clearly not a bad thing to have anyway, but I've no need for top level SSL.

Martin.


-----Original Message-----
From: Bristol [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of David Smith via Bristol
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 4:28 PM
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [bristol] SSL Certs

> From: Bristol [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of
> Alex Butcher via Bristol Otherwise, you're basically looking at:
> * Trustworthy status - can you be reasonably assured that their
> processes and infrastructure are reliable and secure enough so as to
> not issue fraudulent certs?

Just as a point-of-interest, is this actually relevant? I don't think it actually increases the security of the system, since the security of the system is limited by the least-trustworthy CA that has its root certificates in the users' browsers, isn't it? Can't any CA issue a certificate for any website, even if another CA has already issued one?

For example:

Joe Bloggs is the legitimate owner of www.bloggs.com. He has bought an SSL certificate from trustworthy-ssl-certificates.com.

Dr Nefario wants to attack the website. He goes to dodgy-ssl-certificates.com and buys a certificate identifying his server as a legitimate host, and poisons DNS, hijacks WiFi or uses some other mechanism to redirect traffic to his site. His server provides the dodgy-ssl-certificates.com SSL certificate to identify itself, and because dodgy-ssl-certificates.com also have their root certificate installed in the vast majority of users' browsers, the users' browsers accept it as a valid host (especially as the number of users that will actively police their browsers' root CA certificates is so close to zero as to make no difference).

I don't see how having your SSL certificate issued by a "trustworthy" CA increases the security of your site, unless you persuade all the users to disable the other CA's root certificates in their browsers.

Unless I've completely misunderstood how this works?
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 17:02:58 +0100
From: nick robinson <nick@njrobinson.net>
To: David Smith <David.Smith@imgtec.com>, Bristol and Bath Linux User
Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] SSL Certs
Message-ID:
<CADo8qK7uyDtd3omXkELR7iPjTmjRkwfBDm-rc1zWWCyTCOLQgQ@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I agree with this, which is also the point of view letsencrypt takes, that
ssl is about encrypting the traffic between client and server. All the
additional "trusted"/"verified" nonsense they add on the top of it to hike
the bill should be handled by some other system.


On 20 July 2016 at 16:27, David Smith via Bristol <
bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:

> > From: Bristol [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of
> Alex
> > Butcher via Bristol
> > Otherwise, you're basically looking at:
> > * Trustworthy status - can you be reasonably assured that their processes
> > and infrastructure are reliable and secure enough so as to not issue
> > fraudulent certs?
>
> Just as a point-of-interest, is this actually relevant? I don't think it
> actually increases the security of the system, since the security of the
> system is limited by the least-trustworthy CA that has its root
> certificates in the users' browsers, isn't it? Can't any CA issue a
> certificate for any website, even if another CA has already issued one?
>
> For example:
>
> Joe Bloggs is the legitimate owner of www.bloggs.com. He has bought an
> SSL certificate from trustworthy-ssl-certificates.com.
>
> Dr Nefario wants to attack the website. He goes to
> dodgy-ssl-certificates.com and buys a certificate identifying his server
> as a legitimate host, and poisons DNS, hijacks WiFi or uses some other
> mechanism to redirect traffic to his site. His server provides the
> dodgy-ssl-certificates.com SSL certificate to identify itself, and
> because dodgy-ssl-certificates.com also have their root certificate
> installed in the vast majority of users' browsers, the users' browsers
> accept it as a valid host (especially as the number of users that will
> actively police their browsers' root CA certificates is so close to zero as
> to make no difference).
>
> I don't see how having your SSL certificate issued by a "trustworthy" CA
> increases the security of your site, unless you persuade all the users to
> disable the other CA's root certificates in their browsers.
>
> Unless I've completely misunderstood how this works?
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2. Re: SSL Certs (cms)
3. Re: SSL Certs (Steve King)
4. Re: SSL Certs (Martin Moore)
5. Re: SSL Certs (Amias Channer)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 11:14:09 +0100
From: Philip Hudson <phil.hudson@iname.com>
To: Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>, Bristol and Bath Linux
User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] SSL Certs
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On 20 July 2016 at 10:56, Martin Moore via Bristol
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
> I need to go SSL, with subdomains and multiple servers on the same domain. The individual servers don't need to 'share' the certs but it would be nice.
>
> To make sure I get the right stuff, what do I need, anything to watch out for and where's a good supplier?

https://letsencrypt.org/


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@UWascalWabbit PGP/GnuPG ID: 0x887DCA63

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 11:20:12 +0100
From: cms <cms@beatworm.co.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] SSL Certs
Message-ID: <6de3cdc2-ad8d-0dd7-c432-391a851411e7@beatworm.co.uk>
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On 20/07/16 11:14, Philip Hudson via Bristol wrote:
> On 20 July 2016 at 10:56, Martin Moore via Bristol
> <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>> I need to go SSL, with subdomains and multiple servers on the same domain. The individual servers don't need to 'share' the certs but it would be nice.
>>
>> To make sure I get the right stuff, what do I need, anything to watch out for and where's a good supplier?
> https://letsencrypt.org/
>
>
I don't think letsencrypt supports wildcards, which I think may have
been what was meant by 'share' and subdomains. LE is a bit of a pain
with subdomains, if you're trying to do a lot of them

--
Regards,
cms


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 11:35:42 +0100
From: "Steve King" <debian@invux.com>
To: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>, "Bristol and Bath Linux
User Group" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] SSL Certs
Message-ID:
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> I need to go SSL, with subdomains and multiple servers on the same
> domain.  The individual servers don’t need to ‘share’ the certs but
> it would be nice.
>  
> To make sure I get the right stuff, what do I need, anything to watch out
> for and where’s a good supplier?
>  
>  
> Cheers.
>  
> Martin.
>  
>  
>

First thing to ask, do you need a supplier? Or could you do your own
certificate authority and ensure that the CA certificate is installed on
all the clients?

Lets encrypt - doesn't do wild cards, and the certs are only valid for 90
days.

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 11:41:05 +0100
From: Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] SSL Certs
Message-ID: <6C832FDD-B26A-44AF-9DCC-F1D62F343C11@it-helps.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

No – by share I mean same cert on multiple servers to save money.

I've installed letsencrpyt on one server – very simple and lists subdomains to select/deselect as opposed to full wildcard.

I'll stick with them for the moment .

Cheers,

Martin.

On 20/07/2016, 11:20, "Bristol on behalf of cms via Bristol" <bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk on behalf of bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:


On 20/07/16 11:14, Philip Hudson via Bristol wrote:
> On 20 July 2016 at 10:56, Martin Moore via Bristol
> <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>> I need to go SSL, with subdomains and multiple servers on the same domain. The individual servers don't need to 'share' the certs but it would be nice.
>>
>> To make sure I get the right stuff, what do I need, anything to watch out for and where's a good supplier?
> https://letsencrypt.org/
>
>
I don't think letsencrypt supports wildcards, which I think may have
been what was meant by 'share' and subdomains. LE is a bit of a pain
with subdomains, if you're trying to do a lot of them

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:38:41 +0100
From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
To: Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>, Bristol and Bath Linux
User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] SSL Certs
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Hello Martin,

Letsencrypt is a good choice , they are apparently about to expand
their services shortly and its easy to automate with them so you can
make your own auto renewer and setup tool.

Cheers
Amias

On 20 July 2016 at 11:41, Martin Moore via Bristol
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
> No – by share I mean same cert on multiple servers to save money.
>
> I've installed letsencrpyt on one server – very simple and lists subdomains to select/deselect as opposed to full wildcard.
>
> I'll stick with them for the moment .
>
> Cheers,
>
> Martin.
>
>
>
> On 20/07/2016, 11:20, "Bristol on behalf of cms via Bristol" <bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk on behalf of bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>
>
> On 20/07/16 11:14, Philip Hudson via Bristol wrote:
>> On 20 July 2016 at 10:56, Martin Moore via Bristol
>> <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>>> I need to go SSL, with subdomains and multiple servers on the same domain. The individual servers don't need to 'share' the certs but it would be nice.
>>>
>>> To make sure I get the right stuff, what do I need, anything to watch out for and where's a good supplier?
>> https://letsencrypt.org/
>>
>>
> I don't think letsencrypt supports wildcards, which I think may have
> been what was meant by 'share' and subdomains. LE is a bit of a pain
> with subdomains, if you're trying to do a lot of them
>
> --
> Regards,
> cms
>
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2. Re: Scanner Driver (Epson V550) (Dave Addison)
3. Re: Scanner Driver (Epson V550) (Peter Hemmings)
4. Re: Scanner Driver (Epson V550) (Peter Hemmings)
5. SSL Certs (Martin Moore)
6. SSL Certs (Martin Moore)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 18:33:40 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: [bristol] Saturdays LUG Meeting Reminder With An Annoucement
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Hi

This Saturday is another scheduled informal LUG Meeting at the Knight's
Templar pub in Temple Quay near Temple Meads train station. Someone is
likely to be there at 1:30pm by the earliest from our group, and people
usually leave between 4:30pm and 6pm. We usually sit at the lower level at
the back of the pub when entering in the left hand side corner with the
plugs, or near there instead if someone else is already there. Why not
come along for a summers drink and chat with Linux enthusiasts? I expect
to be there at about 3pm by the earliest and with some interesting devices
as usual. Who is intending on being there and at what time? Also for this
Saturday I have a chat topic:

Another event and in October 2016, yes probably! This is after Alex
sparked my interest last week with his forwarded email about Linux
Presentation Day ( http://linux-presentation-day.org ) to our mailing list,
but also since already have someone else who is also interested in helping
to organise. I am not sure who else though be that as organisers or as on
the day helpers, so if that's you please inform me of that as soon as
possible. I emailed the general event idea last week in a email that
started off as a response to Chris and then became quite long as well with
my general event idea. As a result probably not many of you have read that
email properly. Since time would be much less shorter than last time round
to organise an event, and also since I would like to organise something
that is more general and bigger than last time as well, with Creative
Commons in there as well not just Linux and open source, I have already
started trying to get an event organised.

Best Regards

Sebastian


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 00:00:06 +0100
From: Dave Addison <dave@redmoor.org.uk>
To: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>, Bristol and Bath
Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Scanner Driver (Epson V550)
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On Tuesday 19 Jul 2016 10:42:06 Peter Hemmings via Bristol wrote:
> Update
>
> > Update
> >
> > On 18/07/16 11:47, Dave Addison wrote:
> >> Hello Peter
> >>
> >> There should be a file, it's /etc/sane.d/epkowa.conf on my system, which
> >> tells sane which interfaces to scan with the epkowa driver. If you check
> >> this in your old fc23 system, you should see a keyword "usb" which tells
> >> the software that the scanner is on the usb bus (other options are
> >> "scsi" and "net" as I remember). You'll need to make sure the
> >> configuration file on the new installation contains the correct options.
> >> It might be an option to copy the file across from the fc23 install
> >
> > epkowa.conf (working OS) has both usb and scsi uncommented!!
> >
> > Uncommented other OS just in case!
> >
> > I was getting a bit desperate and have now cross-posted to Fedora
> > Forums, they suggested putting a rule in /etc/udev/rules.d to help
> > communicate with it but it did not work.
> >
> > I have just checked the the working OS has no rules so have now removed
> > it.
> >
> > On further delving I noticed the non-working OS has 3 groups, peter
> > vboxusers and my new scanner group (which I will remove).
> >
> > Could VirtualBox be interfering with the scanner in some way!?
> > (I don't have it on the one that works)
> >
> > Any more "perls"?
> >
> >> Regards
> >> Dave
>
> I just did a "usb-devices" on both OS's and they are the same with no
> driver!
>
> IN NON WORKING OS:
>
> T: Bus=02 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=03 Cnt=01 Dev#= 2 Spd=480 MxCh= 0
> D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
> P: Vendor=04b8 ProdID=0130 Rev=01.00
> S: Manufacturer=EPSON
> S: Product=EPSON Scanner
> C: #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr=2mA
> I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=(none)
>
>
> IN WORKING OS:
>
> T: Bus=02 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=03 Cnt=01 Dev#= 2 Spd=480 MxCh= 0
> D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
> P: Vendor=04b8 ProdID=0130 Rev=01.00
> S: Manufacturer=EPSON
> S: Product=EPSON Scanner
> C: #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr=2mA
> I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=(none)
>
> Must be something simple but don't know what or how it can run without a
> driver!
>
> Regards
Hi Peter

The packages I installed looked different. They are
iscan-2.3.0.1-1.usb0.1.ltd7.x86_64,rpm
iscan-data-1.36.0-1.noarch.rpm
iscan-network-nt-1.1.1-1.x86_64.rpm
available from here
http://support.epson.net/linux/en/iscan_c.html

The FAQ here
http://www.epson.co.uk/gb/en/viewcon/corporatesite/products/mainunits/faq/3458/2610
says that the network package is only needed for scanning over ethernet

Might be worth trying these packages rather than the ones you currently have
installed

Regards
Dave

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 08:17:20 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Dave Addison <dave@redmoor.org.uk>, Bristol and Bath Linux User
Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Scanner Driver (Epson V550)
Message-ID: <13582c6c-fb7d-5829-1672-4f2016b317ac@virginmedia.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Hi Peter
> The packages I installed looked different. They are
> iscan-2.3.0.1-1.usb0.1.ltd7.x86_64,rpm
> iscan-data-1.36.0-1.noarch.rpm
> iscan-network-nt-1.1.1-1.x86_64.rpm
> available from here
> http://support.epson.net/linux/en/iscan_c.html
>
> The FAQ here
> http://www.epson.co.uk/gb/en/viewcon/corporatesite/products/mainunits/faq/3458/2610
> says that the network package is only needed for scanning over ethernet
>
> Might be worth trying these packages rather than the ones you currently have
> installed
I thought I downloaded the "bundle" from the epson site and I used the
install script.
Maybe I had old rpm's downloaded and the script installed those.
On looking through the FAQ's I realized I have not set ports (I may have
done so on the older OS)!
Will check both firewalls before altering anything and then make sure
all ports are set correctly and your rpm's are installed.
I think the problem is port settings and will confirm if this was the case.


> Regards
> Dave
>
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Peter H


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 10:18:10 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Scanner Driver (Epson V550)
Message-ID: <00a070df-b994-e1bd-ff69-6bb5956f83b5@virginmedia.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Update -some basic problems

On 20/07/16 08:17, Peter Hemmings via Bristol wrote:
> Hi Peter
>> The packages I installed looked different. They are
>> iscan-2.3.0.1-1.usb0.1.ltd7.x86_64,rpm
>> iscan-data-1.36.0-1.noarch.rpm
>> iscan-network-nt-1.1.1-1.x86_64.rpm
>> available from here
>> http://support.epson.net/linux/en/iscan_c.html
>>
>> The FAQ here
>> http://www.epson.co.uk/gb/en/viewcon/corporatesite/products/mainunits/faq/3458/2610
>>
>> says that the network package is only needed for scanning over ethernet
>>
>> Might be worth trying these packages rather than the ones you
>> currently have
>> installed

>> Regards
>> Dave
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bristol mailing list
>> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
>
Checked ports and set firewall same as other OS - no change

Checked iscan-data rpm - it is the same as yours

Checked iscan - it is not installed!

but I have a:

iscan-firmware-20130319-2.fc23.rpm installed.

Checked in "iscan-perfection-v550-bundle-101.x64 (that I have been
using) and in "core" folder is "iscan-2.30.2-2.x86_64.rpm.

When I try manually installing it, Fedora GUI asks if I want to install
3rd party S/W, I confirmed but it fails!

I will uninstall the original "firmware" later and try again, I will
also check what "iscan" rpm is on the non-working OS.

No more time atm will have another go later today, but at least I have
found a basic problem!

I am also not sure the order the install script installed packages, I
assume it would be the right order "data" first!


--
Peter H

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 10:55:38 +0100
From: Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] SSL Certs
Message-ID: <4C4697C4-DF65-412E-AE62-871A64F5833D@it-helps.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I need to go SSL, with subdomains and multiple servers on the same domain.  The individual servers don't need to 'share' the certs but it would be nice.

To make sure I get the right stuff, what do I need, anything to watch out for and where's a good supplier?

Cheers.

Martin.

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 10:56:07 +0100
From: Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] SSL Certs
Message-ID: <FD4E71B8-C1CF-4EEF-BA23-13CCCF9CA77A@it-helps.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I need to go SSL, with subdomains and multiple servers on the same domain.  The individual servers don't need to 'share' the certs but it would be nice.
 
To make sure I get the right stuff, what do I need, anything to watch out for and where's a good supplier?
 
 
Cheers.
 
Martin.
 
 


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