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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 22:31:31 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
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Subject: [bristol] RISC OS South West Show 2016 this Saturday
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Hi
I won't be at the Knight's Templar this Saturday for the usual LUG
meeting, since I got invited to join someone and their friend at the
RISC OS South West Show 2016, so will be going to that instead. Also I
have a feeling that some or more of you might be interested in it, such
as John H maybe: http://www.riscos-swshow.co.uk/The event will also have
some Raspberry Pi related stuff as well it seems.
I haven't been to the last few LUG meetings, but will probably be at the
March meeting.
Regards
Sebastian
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 22:35:45 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com
Subject: Re: [bristol] RISC OS South West Show 2016 this Saturday
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Re sending for a clickable link that will work:
http://www.riscos-swshow.co.uk/
On 24/02/16 22:31, Sebastian wrote:
> Hi
>
> I won't be at the Knight's Templar this Saturday for the usual LUG
> meeting, since I got invited to join someone and their friend at the
> RISC OS South West Show 2016, so will be going to that instead. Also I
> have a feeling that some or more of you might be interested in it,
> such as John H maybe: http://www.riscos-swshow.co.uk/The event will
> also have some Raspberry Pi related stuff as well it seems.
>
> I haven't been to the last few LUG meetings, but will probably be at
> the March meeting.
>
> Regards
>
> Sebastian
>
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4. Re: Delayed shutdown caused by rdesktop (Peter Hemmings)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 12:29:00 +0000
From: Chris <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Delayed shutdown caused by rdesktop
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On 21 February 2016 15:34:04 GMT+00:00, Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have just noticed my fc23 waiting for 1min 30sec every time it shuts
>down stating the "A stop job is running for user peter".
>
>Not very scientific/professional but did the following:
>
>Checked root user is OK - it was.
>
>Checked what was installed recently and removed applications, and
>checked for differences.
>
>I found I had installed rdesktop, removed it and all is now OK.
>
>Is there a better way to have found the culprit!?
>
>Any ideas as to what could be causing the delay?
>
Are you using systemd?
>
>PS I don't think I needed to install rdesktop as I already have a
>"Remote Desktop" GUI application under my "Utilities" software.
>
>(seems very quite in ear!)
>
>Regards
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 14:39:59 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Delayed shutdown caused by rdesktop
Message-ID: <56CB1DBF.7010006@virginmedia.com>
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On 22/02/16 12:29, Chris wrote:
> On 21 February 2016 15:34:04 GMT+00:00, Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have just noticed my fc23 waiting for 1min 30sec every time it shuts
>> down stating the "A stop job is running for user peter".
>>
>> Not very scientific/professional but did the following:
>>
>> Checked root user is OK - it was.
>>
>> Checked what was installed recently and removed applications, and
>> checked for differences.
>>
>> I found I had installed rdesktop, removed it and all is now OK.
>>
>> Is there a better way to have found the culprit!?
>>
>> Any ideas as to what could be causing the delay?
>>
>
> Are you using systemd?
Yep its the default on fedora with the systemctl tool.
I have not re installed rdesktop as I did not need it as I used the GUI.
I assume it does not expect the GUI to be there and there is a conflict,
but I thought linux would give me a clue!
I had this a year ago and never really sorted it out but I am almost
certain it was the same culprit as I was playing with "Remote Desktop"
and not getting it to work so assumed I needed rdesktop!!
I ended up using journal to catch and copy the late shutdown messages
but do not remember seeing any rdesktop mentioned.
--
Peter H
------------------------------
Message: 3
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 15:05:41 +0000
From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Delayed shutdown caused by rdesktop
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Hello Peter,
journalctl --boot=-1 will show you just messages from the last boot ,
you should also be able to filter by service by adding -fu
rdesktop.service or something similar.
i did wonder if those two letters where chosen with the mindset of
someone debugging a misbehaving service in mind.
It certainly helps me remember them when i need to fix things.
Cheers
Amias
On 22 February 2016 at 14:39, Peter Hemmings
<peternsomerset@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 22/02/16 12:29, Chris wrote:
>>
>> On 21 February 2016 15:34:04 GMT+00:00, Peter Hemmings
>> <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have just noticed my fc23 waiting for 1min 30sec every time it shuts
>>> down stating the "A stop job is running for user peter".
>>>
>>> Not very scientific/professional but did the following:
>>>
>>> Checked root user is OK - it was.
>>>
>>> Checked what was installed recently and removed applications, and
>>> checked for differences.
>>>
>>> I found I had installed rdesktop, removed it and all is now OK.
>>>
>>> Is there a better way to have found the culprit!?
>>>
>>> Any ideas as to what could be causing the delay?
>>>
>>
>> Are you using systemd?
>
>
> Yep its the default on fedora with the systemctl tool.
>
> I have not re installed rdesktop as I did not need it as I used the GUI.
>
> I assume it does not expect the GUI to be there and there is a conflict,
> but I thought linux would give me a clue!
>
> I had this a year ago and never really sorted it out but I am almost certain
> it was the same culprit as I was playing with "Remote Desktop" and not
> getting it to work so assumed I needed rdesktop!!
>
> I ended up using journal to catch and copy the late shutdown messages but do
> not remember seeing any rdesktop mentioned.
>
>
>
> --
> Peter H
>
>
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 15:39:48 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Delayed shutdown caused by rdesktop
Message-ID: <56CB2BC4.2020006@virginmedia.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
On 22/02/16 15:05, Amias Channer wrote:
> Hello Peter,
>
> journalctl --boot=-1 will show you just messages from the last boot ,
> you should also be able to filter by service by adding -fu
> rdesktop.service or something similar.
I did (at the time look at boot info but there was nothing there I could
see was giving a problem. What I did find was a way of logging the very
last messages.
Anyway its OK now
>
> i did wonder if those two letters where chosen with the mindset of
> someone debugging a misbehaving service in mind.
!!
> It certainly helps me remember them when i need to fix things.
>
> Cheers
> Amias
--
Peter H
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 12:29:00 +0000
From: Chris <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Delayed shutdown caused by rdesktop
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On 21 February 2016 15:34:04 GMT+00:00, Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have just noticed my fc23 waiting for 1min 30sec every time it shuts
>down stating the "A stop job is running for user peter".
>
>Not very scientific/professional but did the following:
>
>Checked root user is OK - it was.
>
>Checked what was installed recently and removed applications, and
>checked for differences.
>
>I found I had installed rdesktop, removed it and all is now OK.
>
>Is there a better way to have found the culprit!?
>
>Any ideas as to what could be causing the delay?
>
Are you using systemd?
>
>PS I don't think I needed to install rdesktop as I already have a
>"Remote Desktop" GUI application under my "Utilities" software.
>
>(seems very quite in ear!)
>
>Regards
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 14:39:59 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Delayed shutdown caused by rdesktop
Message-ID: <56CB1DBF.7010006@virginmedia.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
On 22/02/16 12:29, Chris wrote:
> On 21 February 2016 15:34:04 GMT+00:00, Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have just noticed my fc23 waiting for 1min 30sec every time it shuts
>> down stating the "A stop job is running for user peter".
>>
>> Not very scientific/professional but did the following:
>>
>> Checked root user is OK - it was.
>>
>> Checked what was installed recently and removed applications, and
>> checked for differences.
>>
>> I found I had installed rdesktop, removed it and all is now OK.
>>
>> Is there a better way to have found the culprit!?
>>
>> Any ideas as to what could be causing the delay?
>>
>
> Are you using systemd?
Yep its the default on fedora with the systemctl tool.
I have not re installed rdesktop as I did not need it as I used the GUI.
I assume it does not expect the GUI to be there and there is a conflict,
but I thought linux would give me a clue!
I had this a year ago and never really sorted it out but I am almost
certain it was the same culprit as I was playing with "Remote Desktop"
and not getting it to work so assumed I needed rdesktop!!
I ended up using journal to catch and copy the late shutdown messages
but do not remember seeing any rdesktop mentioned.
--
Peter H
------------------------------
Message: 3
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 15:05:41 +0000
From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Delayed shutdown caused by rdesktop
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Hello Peter,
journalctl --boot=-1 will show you just messages from the last boot ,
you should also be able to filter by service by adding -fu
rdesktop.service or something similar.
i did wonder if those two letters where chosen with the mindset of
someone debugging a misbehaving service in mind.
It certainly helps me remember them when i need to fix things.
Cheers
Amias
On 22 February 2016 at 14:39, Peter Hemmings
<peternsomerset@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 22/02/16 12:29, Chris wrote:
>>
>> On 21 February 2016 15:34:04 GMT+00:00, Peter Hemmings
>> <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have just noticed my fc23 waiting for 1min 30sec every time it shuts
>>> down stating the "A stop job is running for user peter".
>>>
>>> Not very scientific/professional but did the following:
>>>
>>> Checked root user is OK - it was.
>>>
>>> Checked what was installed recently and removed applications, and
>>> checked for differences.
>>>
>>> I found I had installed rdesktop, removed it and all is now OK.
>>>
>>> Is there a better way to have found the culprit!?
>>>
>>> Any ideas as to what could be causing the delay?
>>>
>>
>> Are you using systemd?
>
>
> Yep its the default on fedora with the systemctl tool.
>
> I have not re installed rdesktop as I did not need it as I used the GUI.
>
> I assume it does not expect the GUI to be there and there is a conflict,
> but I thought linux would give me a clue!
>
> I had this a year ago and never really sorted it out but I am almost certain
> it was the same culprit as I was playing with "Remote Desktop" and not
> getting it to work so assumed I needed rdesktop!!
>
> I ended up using journal to catch and copy the late shutdown messages but do
> not remember seeing any rdesktop mentioned.
>
>
>
> --
> Peter H
>
>
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 15:39:48 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Delayed shutdown caused by rdesktop
Message-ID: <56CB2BC4.2020006@virginmedia.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
On 22/02/16 15:05, Amias Channer wrote:
> Hello Peter,
>
> journalctl --boot=-1 will show you just messages from the last boot ,
> you should also be able to filter by service by adding -fu
> rdesktop.service or something similar.
I did (at the time look at boot info but there was nothing there I could
see was giving a problem. What I did find was a way of logging the very
last messages.
Anyway its OK now
>
> i did wonder if those two letters where chosen with the mindset of
> someone debugging a misbehaving service in mind.
!!
> It certainly helps me remember them when i need to fix things.
>
> Cheers
> Amias
--
Peter H
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:34:04 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Delayed shutdown caused by rdesktop
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Hi,
I have just noticed my fc23 waiting for 1min 30sec every time it shuts
down stating the "A stop job is running for user peter".
Not very scientific/professional but did the following:
Checked root user is OK - it was.
Checked what was installed recently and removed applications, and
checked for differences.
I found I had installed rdesktop, removed it and all is now OK.
Is there a better way to have found the culprit!?
Any ideas as to what could be causing the delay?
PS I don't think I needed to install rdesktop as I already have a
"Remote Desktop" GUI application under my "Utilities" software.
(seems very quite in ear!)
Regards
--
Peter H
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 16:31:48 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com
Subject: Re: [bristol] Delayed shutdown caused by rdesktop
Message-ID: <56C9E674.3070808@gmx.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
On 21/02/16 15:34, Peter Hemmings wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have just noticed my fc23 waiting for 1min 30sec every time it shuts
> down stating the "A stop job is running for user peter".
>
> Not very scientific/professional but did the following:
>
> Checked root user is OK - it was.
>
> Checked what was installed recently and removed applications, and
> checked for differences.
>
> I found I had installed rdesktop, removed it and all is now OK.
I guess rdesktop was one of the last programs to shut down properly from
the background on shut down, but maybe was being a bit buggy to hence
slowing things down. If I read that right, you removed rdesktop, and
then shut down went back to normal?
>
> Is there a better way to have found the culprit!?
Probably a command to see what programs were running or something like
that, but what you did seems ok enough to me.
>
> Any ideas as to what could be causing the delay?
See above
>
>
> PS I don't think I needed to install rdesktop as I already have a
> "Remote Desktop" GUI application under my "Utilities" software.
You won't need any remote connect software installed really at all of
any kind, unless you are going to have someone remote connect your
computer, or your going to remote connect someone elses from yours. Not
everything that is installed by default in most or all Linux distro's is
needed by all the users of that distro.
>
> (seems very quite in ear!)
The list hasn't been that active recently if that's what you meant yep.
>
> Regards
------------------------------
Message: 3
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 22:59:12 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Delayed shutdown caused by rdesktop
Message-ID: <56CA4140.4080108@virginmedia.com>
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On 21/02/16 16:31, Sebastian wrote:
>
>
> On 21/02/16 15:34, Peter Hemmings wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have just noticed my fc23 waiting for 1min 30sec every time it
>> shuts down stating the "A stop job is running for user peter".
>>
>> Not very scientific/professional but did the following:
>>
>> Checked root user is OK - it was.
>>
>> Checked what was installed recently and removed applications, and
>> checked for differences.
>>
>> I found I had installed rdesktop, removed it and all is now OK.
> I guess rdesktop was one of the last programs to shut down properly
> from the background on shut down, but maybe was being a bit buggy to
> hence slowing things down. If I read that right, you removed
> rdesktop, and then shut down went back to normal?
yep
>>
>> Is there a better way to have found the culprit!?
> Probably a command to see what programs were running or something like
> that, but what you did seems ok enough to me.
>>
>> Any ideas as to what could be causing the delay?
> See above
>>
>>
>> PS I don't think I needed to install rdesktop as I already have a
>> "Remote Desktop" GUI application under my "Utilities" software.
> You won't need any remote connect software installed really at all of
> any kind, unless you are going to have someone remote connect your
> computer, or your going to remote connect someone elses from yours.
> Not everything that is installed by default in most or all Linux
> distro's is needed by all the users of that distro.
>>
>> (seems very quite in ear!)
> The list hasn't been that active recently if that's what you meant yep.
>>
>> Regards
>
>
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Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:34:04 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Delayed shutdown caused by rdesktop
Message-ID: <56C9D8EC.3070102@virginmedia.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Hi,
I have just noticed my fc23 waiting for 1min 30sec every time it shuts
down stating the "A stop job is running for user peter".
Not very scientific/professional but did the following:
Checked root user is OK - it was.
Checked what was installed recently and removed applications, and
checked for differences.
I found I had installed rdesktop, removed it and all is now OK.
Is there a better way to have found the culprit!?
Any ideas as to what could be causing the delay?
PS I don't think I needed to install rdesktop as I already have a
"Remote Desktop" GUI application under my "Utilities" software.
(seems very quite in ear!)
Regards
--
Peter H
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 16:31:48 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com
Subject: Re: [bristol] Delayed shutdown caused by rdesktop
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On 21/02/16 15:34, Peter Hemmings wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have just noticed my fc23 waiting for 1min 30sec every time it shuts
> down stating the "A stop job is running for user peter".
>
> Not very scientific/professional but did the following:
>
> Checked root user is OK - it was.
>
> Checked what was installed recently and removed applications, and
> checked for differences.
>
> I found I had installed rdesktop, removed it and all is now OK.
I guess rdesktop was one of the last programs to shut down properly from
the background on shut down, but maybe was being a bit buggy to hence
slowing things down. If I read that right, you removed rdesktop, and
then shut down went back to normal?
>
> Is there a better way to have found the culprit!?
Probably a command to see what programs were running or something like
that, but what you did seems ok enough to me.
>
> Any ideas as to what could be causing the delay?
See above
>
>
> PS I don't think I needed to install rdesktop as I already have a
> "Remote Desktop" GUI application under my "Utilities" software.
You won't need any remote connect software installed really at all of
any kind, unless you are going to have someone remote connect your
computer, or your going to remote connect someone elses from yours. Not
everything that is installed by default in most or all Linux distro's is
needed by all the users of that distro.
>
> (seems very quite in ear!)
The list hasn't been that active recently if that's what you meant yep.
>
> Regards
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 22:59:12 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Delayed shutdown caused by rdesktop
Message-ID: <56CA4140.4080108@virginmedia.com>
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On 21/02/16 16:31, Sebastian wrote:
>
>
> On 21/02/16 15:34, Peter Hemmings wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have just noticed my fc23 waiting for 1min 30sec every time it
>> shuts down stating the "A stop job is running for user peter".
>>
>> Not very scientific/professional but did the following:
>>
>> Checked root user is OK - it was.
>>
>> Checked what was installed recently and removed applications, and
>> checked for differences.
>>
>> I found I had installed rdesktop, removed it and all is now OK.
> I guess rdesktop was one of the last programs to shut down properly
> from the background on shut down, but maybe was being a bit buggy to
> hence slowing things down. If I read that right, you removed
> rdesktop, and then shut down went back to normal?
yep
>>
>> Is there a better way to have found the culprit!?
> Probably a command to see what programs were running or something like
> that, but what you did seems ok enough to me.
>>
>> Any ideas as to what could be causing the delay?
> See above
>>
>>
>> PS I don't think I needed to install rdesktop as I already have a
>> "Remote Desktop" GUI application under my "Utilities" software.
> You won't need any remote connect software installed really at all of
> any kind, unless you are going to have someone remote connect your
> computer, or your going to remote connect someone elses from yours.
> Not everything that is installed by default in most or all Linux
> distro's is needed by all the users of that distro.
>>
>> (seems very quite in ear!)
> The list hasn't been that active recently if that's what you meant yep.
>>
>> Regards
>
>
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 09:22:09 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Static LAN IP's on Vigin Super Hub?
Message-ID: <56B9AFC1.5090200@virginmedia.com>
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On 08/02/16 23:14, Steven Nash wrote:
> If you set lease time to zero will that be treated as for ever?
Can't be done, only settings are 10 mins, 1 hour, 1 day,1 week!
> Steve
Regards
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 10:24:52 +0000
From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Static LAN IP's on Vigin Super Hub?
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Hello Peter,
Here is an expoit for the superhub2 that will apparently get you root
https://henryhoggard.co.uk/?p=110
you can then do anything you want with it, such as put in your own dhdpd config
Cheers
Amias
On 9 February 2016 at 09:22, Peter Hemmings
<peternsomerset@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 08/02/16 23:14, Steven Nash wrote:
>>
>> If you set lease time to zero will that be treated as for ever?
>
>
> Can't be done, only settings are 10 mins, 1 hour, 1 day,1 week!
>
>
>> Steve
>
>
> Regards
>
> --
> Peter H
>
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 10:56:48 +0000 (GMT)
From: Alex Butcher <lug@assursys.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Static LAN IP's on Vigin Super Hub?
Message-ID:
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On Tue, 9 Feb 2016, Peter Hemmings wrote:
> On 08/02/16 23:14, Steven Nash wrote:
>> If you set lease time to zero will that be treated as for ever?
>
> Can't be done, only settings are 10 mins, 1 hour, 1 day,1 week!
Compliant DHCP clients and servers should result in the client being
assigned the same IP address indefinitely, as long as it hasn't already been
reallocated to another client.
Therefore, the lease time only really affects how often the client checks in
to see if it's OK to carry on using the details it was assigned from its
last lease.
>> Steve
Best Regards,
Alex
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 09:22:09 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Static LAN IP's on Vigin Super Hub?
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On 08/02/16 23:14, Steven Nash wrote:
> If you set lease time to zero will that be treated as for ever?
Can't be done, only settings are 10 mins, 1 hour, 1 day,1 week!
> Steve
Regards
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 10:24:52 +0000
From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Static LAN IP's on Vigin Super Hub?
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Hello Peter,
Here is an expoit for the superhub2 that will apparently get you root
https://henryhoggard.co.uk/?p=110
you can then do anything you want with it, such as put in your own dhdpd config
Cheers
Amias
On 9 February 2016 at 09:22, Peter Hemmings
<peternsomerset@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 08/02/16 23:14, Steven Nash wrote:
>>
>> If you set lease time to zero will that be treated as for ever?
>
>
> Can't be done, only settings are 10 mins, 1 hour, 1 day,1 week!
>
>
>> Steve
>
>
> Regards
>
> --
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>
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 10:56:48 +0000 (GMT)
From: Alex Butcher <lug@assursys.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Static LAN IP's on Vigin Super Hub?
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On Tue, 9 Feb 2016, Peter Hemmings wrote:
> On 08/02/16 23:14, Steven Nash wrote:
>> If you set lease time to zero will that be treated as for ever?
>
> Can't be done, only settings are 10 mins, 1 hour, 1 day,1 week!
Compliant DHCP clients and servers should result in the client being
assigned the same IP address indefinitely, as long as it hasn't already been
reallocated to another client.
Therefore, the lease time only really affects how often the client checks in
to see if it's OK to carry on using the details it was assigned from its
last lease.
>> Steve
Best Regards,
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 20:03:51 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Static LAN IP's on Vigin Super Hub?
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Hi,
I have a Virgin Super Hub 2ac and was wanting to keep the same lan
addresses tied to mac addresses as I had with my old ADSL netgear
router, but virgin say they it keep changing the lan address!
Is that correct?
There is a page on the 2ac that shows connected ethernet and wifi
addresses but you cannot seem to change anything except a device name,
Will have to use my old modem router to keep them the same or are they
telling me "porkies"!?
Regards
--
Peter H
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 20:16:15 +0000
From: Steven Nash <steven_nash@compuserve.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Static LAN IP's on Vigin Super Hub?
Message-ID: <8503D34D-CCC2-4624-8580-7AC5D23BE4E3@compuserve.com>
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Having a static or dynamic public address is down to and controlled by the provider. The chances are the are not providing static public addresses to consumers, probably due to a shortage in IPv4 addresses. Static address tend to be used more for businesses these days.
One option is to setup an account with someone like no-dns.org and run a service that updates a hostname when your I.P. address changes, so you could have a hostname like:
phemmings.no-dns.org that resolves to your public I.P. You maybe able to configure this on your router, but if not you can easily run a service on Linux.
Hope this helps?
Steve
> On 8 Feb 2016, at 20:03, Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a Virgin Super Hub 2ac and was wanting to keep the same lan addresses tied to mac addresses as I had with my old ADSL netgear router, but virgin say they it keep changing the lan address!
> Is that correct?
>
> There is a page on the 2ac that shows connected ethernet and wifi addresses but you cannot seem to change anything except a device name, Will have to use my old modem router to keep them the same or are they telling me "porkies"!?
>
> Regards
> --
> Peter H
>
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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 20:30:13 +0000
From: Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Static LAN IP's on Vigin Super Hub?
Message-ID: <CC58552C-B86F-4F72-BFCF-CE36CCEB696E@it-helps.co.uk>
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LAN address is nowt to do with Virgin. They control the WAN (outside) address.
LAN address is set in advanced > DHCP
Martin.
On 08/02/2016, 20:03, "Bristol on behalf of Peter Hemmings" <bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk on behalf of peternsomerset@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have a Virgin Super Hub 2ac and was wanting to keep the same lan
>addresses tied to mac addresses as I had with my old ADSL netgear
>router, but virgin say they it keep changing the lan address!
>Is that correct?
>
>There is a page on the 2ac that shows connected ethernet and wifi
>addresses but you cannot seem to change anything except a device name,
>Will have to use my old modem router to keep them the same or are they
>telling me "porkies"!?
>
>Regards
>--
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 20:33:27 +0000
From: Steven Nash <steven_nash@compuserve.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Static LAN IP's on Vigin Super Hub?
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True, I read the email bit quick and assumed Peter was talking about the WAN address.
Steve
> On 8 Feb 2016, at 20:30, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk> wrote:
>
> LAN address is nowt to do with Virgin. They control the WAN (outside) address.
>
> LAN address is set in advanced > DHCP
>
>
> Martin.
>
>
>
>
> On 08/02/2016, 20:03, "Bristol on behalf of Peter Hemmings" <bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk on behalf of peternsomerset@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a Virgin Super Hub 2ac and was wanting to keep the same lan
>> addresses tied to mac addresses as I had with my old ADSL netgear
>> router, but virgin say they it keep changing the lan address!
>> Is that correct?
>>
>> There is a page on the 2ac that shows connected ethernet and wifi
>> addresses but you cannot seem to change anything except a device name,
>> Will have to use my old modem router to keep them the same or are they
>> telling me "porkies"!?
>>
>> Regards
>> --
>> Peter H
>>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 20:50:06 +0000
From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Static LAN IP's on Vigin Super Hub?
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Hello Peter,
If your old router had an ethernet port for its uplink you could use
it with the super hub set to modem mode , this would mean no change to
your lan but you might have to reconfigure it to use dhcp to connect
to the super hub. If its an rj45 for a modem cable then you won't be
able to use it , or at least not without reconfiguring it with custom
routing settings to use one the ethernet ports as an uplink, not
recommended.
Cheers
Amias
On 8 February 2016 at 20:33, Steven Nash <steven_nash@compuserve.com> wrote:
> True, I read the email bit quick and assumed Peter was talking about the WAN address.
>
> Steve
>> On 8 Feb 2016, at 20:30, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> LAN address is nowt to do with Virgin. They control the WAN (outside) address.
>>
>> LAN address is set in advanced > DHCP
>>
>>
>> Martin.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 08/02/2016, 20:03, "Bristol on behalf of Peter Hemmings" <bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk on behalf of peternsomerset@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have a Virgin Super Hub 2ac and was wanting to keep the same lan
>>> addresses tied to mac addresses as I had with my old ADSL netgear
>>> router, but virgin say they it keep changing the lan address!
>>> Is that correct?
>>>
>>> There is a page on the 2ac that shows connected ethernet and wifi
>>> addresses but you cannot seem to change anything except a device name,
>>> Will have to use my old modem router to keep them the same or are they
>>> telling me "porkies"!?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> --
>>> Peter H
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Bristol mailing list
>>> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
>>
>>
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 21:12:07 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Static LAN IP's on Vigin Super Hub?
Message-ID: <56B904A7.6080003@virginmedia.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
I have now found the DHCP settings page!
It seems I CAN set the DHP reservations which was not what the support
man (young boy) told me, even though I tried to explain to him what I
wanted to do at least 3 times.
Will look into it again tomorrow, it looks like I can reserve them as
before.
I just looked and I can do it but I have to set a lease time which is a
maximum of a week, which is OK.
It does seem you have to use 192.168.100. if you use it as a modem and
the guest IP's for both bands get automatically set, but I do not want
to add another router unless I have to.
On 08/02/16 20:50, Amias Channer wrote:
> Hello Peter,
>
> If your old router had an ethernet port for its uplink you could use
> it with the super hub set to modem mode , this would mean no change to
> your lan but you might have to reconfigure it to use dhcp to connect
> to the super hub. If its an rj45 for a modem cable then you won't be
> able to use it
(Its an old Netgear 843g)
, or at least not without reconfiguring it with custom
> routing settings to use one the ethernet ports as an uplink, not
> recommended.
>
> Cheers
> Amias
Regards (disappointed with VM support but does go fast!)
--
Peter H
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 23:14:56 +0000
From: Steven Nash <steven_nash@compuserve.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Static LAN IP's on Vigin Super Hub?
Message-ID: <451F05B2-7978-485A-B20E-C3F822ECC665@compuserve.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
If you set lease time to zero will that be treated as for ever?
Steve
> On 8 Feb 2016, at 21:12, Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>
> I have now found the DHCP settings page!
> It seems I CAN set the DHP reservations which was not what the support man (young boy) told me, even though I tried to explain to him what I wanted to do at least 3 times.
>
> Will look into it again tomorrow, it looks like I can reserve them as before.
>
> I just looked and I can do it but I have to set a lease time which is a maximum of a week, which is OK.
>
> It does seem you have to use 192.168.100. if you use it as a modem and the guest IP's for both bands get automatically set, but I do not want to add another router unless I have to.
>
>
> On 08/02/16 20:50, Amias Channer wrote:
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> If your old router had an ethernet port for its uplink you could use
>> it with the super hub set to modem mode , this would mean no change to
>> your lan but you might have to reconfigure it to use dhcp to connect
>> to the super hub. If its an rj45 for a modem cable then you won't be
>> able to use it
>
> (Its an old Netgear 843g)
>
> , or at least not without reconfiguring it with custom
>> routing settings to use one the ethernet ports as an uplink, not
>> recommended.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Amias
>
> Regards (disappointed with VM support but does go fast!)
> --
> Peter H
>
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5. Re: Static LAN IP's on Vigin Super Hub? (Amias Channer)
6. Re: Static LAN IP's on Vigin Super Hub? (Peter Hemmings)
7. Re: Static LAN IP's on Vigin Super Hub? (Steven Nash)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 20:03:51 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Static LAN IP's on Vigin Super Hub?
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Hi,
I have a Virgin Super Hub 2ac and was wanting to keep the same lan
addresses tied to mac addresses as I had with my old ADSL netgear
router, but virgin say they it keep changing the lan address!
Is that correct?
There is a page on the 2ac that shows connected ethernet and wifi
addresses but you cannot seem to change anything except a device name,
Will have to use my old modem router to keep them the same or are they
telling me "porkies"!?
Regards
--
Peter H
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 20:16:15 +0000
From: Steven Nash <steven_nash@compuserve.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Static LAN IP's on Vigin Super Hub?
Message-ID: <8503D34D-CCC2-4624-8580-7AC5D23BE4E3@compuserve.com>
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Having a static or dynamic public address is down to and controlled by the provider. The chances are the are not providing static public addresses to consumers, probably due to a shortage in IPv4 addresses. Static address tend to be used more for businesses these days.
One option is to setup an account with someone like no-dns.org and run a service that updates a hostname when your I.P. address changes, so you could have a hostname like:
phemmings.no-dns.org that resolves to your public I.P. You maybe able to configure this on your router, but if not you can easily run a service on Linux.
Hope this helps?
Steve
> On 8 Feb 2016, at 20:03, Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a Virgin Super Hub 2ac and was wanting to keep the same lan addresses tied to mac addresses as I had with my old ADSL netgear router, but virgin say they it keep changing the lan address!
> Is that correct?
>
> There is a page on the 2ac that shows connected ethernet and wifi addresses but you cannot seem to change anything except a device name, Will have to use my old modem router to keep them the same or are they telling me "porkies"!?
>
> Regards
> --
> Peter H
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 20:30:13 +0000
From: Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Static LAN IP's on Vigin Super Hub?
Message-ID: <CC58552C-B86F-4F72-BFCF-CE36CCEB696E@it-helps.co.uk>
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LAN address is nowt to do with Virgin. They control the WAN (outside) address.
LAN address is set in advanced > DHCP
Martin.
On 08/02/2016, 20:03, "Bristol on behalf of Peter Hemmings" <bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk on behalf of peternsomerset@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have a Virgin Super Hub 2ac and was wanting to keep the same lan
>addresses tied to mac addresses as I had with my old ADSL netgear
>router, but virgin say they it keep changing the lan address!
>Is that correct?
>
>There is a page on the 2ac that shows connected ethernet and wifi
>addresses but you cannot seem to change anything except a device name,
>Will have to use my old modem router to keep them the same or are they
>telling me "porkies"!?
>
>Regards
>--
>Peter H
>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 20:33:27 +0000
From: Steven Nash <steven_nash@compuserve.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Static LAN IP's on Vigin Super Hub?
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True, I read the email bit quick and assumed Peter was talking about the WAN address.
Steve
> On 8 Feb 2016, at 20:30, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk> wrote:
>
> LAN address is nowt to do with Virgin. They control the WAN (outside) address.
>
> LAN address is set in advanced > DHCP
>
>
> Martin.
>
>
>
>
> On 08/02/2016, 20:03, "Bristol on behalf of Peter Hemmings" <bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk on behalf of peternsomerset@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a Virgin Super Hub 2ac and was wanting to keep the same lan
>> addresses tied to mac addresses as I had with my old ADSL netgear
>> router, but virgin say they it keep changing the lan address!
>> Is that correct?
>>
>> There is a page on the 2ac that shows connected ethernet and wifi
>> addresses but you cannot seem to change anything except a device name,
>> Will have to use my old modem router to keep them the same or are they
>> telling me "porkies"!?
>>
>> Regards
>> --
>> Peter H
>>
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>> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 20:50:06 +0000
From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Static LAN IP's on Vigin Super Hub?
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Hello Peter,
If your old router had an ethernet port for its uplink you could use
it with the super hub set to modem mode , this would mean no change to
your lan but you might have to reconfigure it to use dhcp to connect
to the super hub. If its an rj45 for a modem cable then you won't be
able to use it , or at least not without reconfiguring it with custom
routing settings to use one the ethernet ports as an uplink, not
recommended.
Cheers
Amias
On 8 February 2016 at 20:33, Steven Nash <steven_nash@compuserve.com> wrote:
> True, I read the email bit quick and assumed Peter was talking about the WAN address.
>
> Steve
>> On 8 Feb 2016, at 20:30, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> LAN address is nowt to do with Virgin. They control the WAN (outside) address.
>>
>> LAN address is set in advanced > DHCP
>>
>>
>> Martin.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 08/02/2016, 20:03, "Bristol on behalf of Peter Hemmings" <bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk on behalf of peternsomerset@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have a Virgin Super Hub 2ac and was wanting to keep the same lan
>>> addresses tied to mac addresses as I had with my old ADSL netgear
>>> router, but virgin say they it keep changing the lan address!
>>> Is that correct?
>>>
>>> There is a page on the 2ac that shows connected ethernet and wifi
>>> addresses but you cannot seem to change anything except a device name,
>>> Will have to use my old modem router to keep them the same or are they
>>> telling me "porkies"!?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> --
>>> Peter H
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Bristol mailing list
>>> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
>>
>>
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 21:12:07 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Static LAN IP's on Vigin Super Hub?
Message-ID: <56B904A7.6080003@virginmedia.com>
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I have now found the DHCP settings page!
It seems I CAN set the DHP reservations which was not what the support
man (young boy) told me, even though I tried to explain to him what I
wanted to do at least 3 times.
Will look into it again tomorrow, it looks like I can reserve them as
before.
I just looked and I can do it but I have to set a lease time which is a
maximum of a week, which is OK.
It does seem you have to use 192.168.100. if you use it as a modem and
the guest IP's for both bands get automatically set, but I do not want
to add another router unless I have to.
On 08/02/16 20:50, Amias Channer wrote:
> Hello Peter,
>
> If your old router had an ethernet port for its uplink you could use
> it with the super hub set to modem mode , this would mean no change to
> your lan but you might have to reconfigure it to use dhcp to connect
> to the super hub. If its an rj45 for a modem cable then you won't be
> able to use it
(Its an old Netgear 843g)
, or at least not without reconfiguring it with custom
> routing settings to use one the ethernet ports as an uplink, not
> recommended.
>
> Cheers
> Amias
Regards (disappointed with VM support but does go fast!)
--
Peter H
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 23:14:56 +0000
From: Steven Nash <steven_nash@compuserve.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Static LAN IP's on Vigin Super Hub?
Message-ID: <451F05B2-7978-485A-B20E-C3F822ECC665@compuserve.com>
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If you set lease time to zero will that be treated as for ever?
Steve
> On 8 Feb 2016, at 21:12, Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>
> I have now found the DHCP settings page!
> It seems I CAN set the DHP reservations which was not what the support man (young boy) told me, even though I tried to explain to him what I wanted to do at least 3 times.
>
> Will look into it again tomorrow, it looks like I can reserve them as before.
>
> I just looked and I can do it but I have to set a lease time which is a maximum of a week, which is OK.
>
> It does seem you have to use 192.168.100. if you use it as a modem and the guest IP's for both bands get automatically set, but I do not want to add another router unless I have to.
>
>
> On 08/02/16 20:50, Amias Channer wrote:
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> If your old router had an ethernet port for its uplink you could use
>> it with the super hub set to modem mode , this would mean no change to
>> your lan but you might have to reconfigure it to use dhcp to connect
>> to the super hub. If its an rj45 for a modem cable then you won't be
>> able to use it
>
> (Its an old Netgear 843g)
>
> , or at least not without reconfiguring it with custom
>> routing settings to use one the ethernet ports as an uplink, not
>> recommended.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Amias
>
> Regards (disappointed with VM support but does go fast!)
> --
> Peter H
>
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