Bristol Digest, Vol 560, Issue 2

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: WinTV HVR-1100 (was 2 TV cards - can they work
together!?) (Peter Hemmings)
2. Re: WinTV HVR-1100 (was 2 TV cards - can they work
together!?) (Alex Butcher)
3. Re: WinTV HVR-1100 (was 2 TV cards - can they work
together!?) (David Smith)
4. Re: WinTV HVR-1100 (was 2 TV cards - can they work
together!?) (Alex Butcher)
5. Re: WinTV HVR-1100 (was 2 TV cards - can they work
together!?) (David Smith)
6. Meeting this Saturday! (Peter Hemmings)
7. Re: Meeting this Saturday! (Chris)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:20:28 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] WinTV HVR-1100 (was 2 TV cards - can they work
together!?)
Message-ID: <53CE732C.7020606@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed



On 22/07/14 10:15, David Smith wrote:
>> -----Original Message----- From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
>> [mailto:bristol- bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Peter
>> Hemmings FYI (a picture is worth a thousand words!) below is a
>> picture of pci card with connector:
>>
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45909169/DSCF1896a.JPG
>
> No, that's not the connector for sending the data to the graphics
> card - it's a standard DIL IDC connector (like the sort that were
> used on IDE (ATA) disk drives and floppy drives). Your card should
> be direct-write.


Enlighten me!

All my old ATA cables were 2 lines of pins or are they too new!?

What do you mean by "direct-write"?



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FWIW I have got an Easycap DC60 to produce video, and am using the "line
in" for the audio. My main problem now is getting my Epson R300 to print
CD labels in the centre of the disk using Inkscape, but that's for
another time!

Regards
--
Peter H



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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:28:55 +0100 (BST)
From: Alex Butcher <lug@assursys.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] WinTV HVR-1100 (was 2 TV cards - can they work
together!?)
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.03.1407221524120.5630@nffheflf.pb.hx>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

On Tue, 22 Jul 2014, Peter Hemmings wrote:

>
>
> On 22/07/14 10:15, David Smith wrote:
>>> -----Original Message----- From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
>>> [mailto:bristol- bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Peter
>>> Hemmings FYI (a picture is worth a thousand words!) below is a
>>> picture of pci card with connector:
>>>
>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45909169/DSCF1896a.JPG
>>
>> No, that's not the connector for sending the data to the graphics
>> card - it's a standard DIL IDC connector (like the sort that were
>> used on IDE (ATA) disk drives and floppy drives). Your card should
>> be direct-write.
>
>
> Enlighten me!
>
> All my old ATA cables were 2 lines of pins or are they too new!?

David's writing wasn't the clearest, but he means that the connector for
sending data to the graphics card was a "Dual In Line"
Insulation-Displacement Connector (er, connector) - like an ATA connector.

The connector on your card is something different (and I apologise for even
suggesting it might be a VESA AFC many posts ago...); my money's still on
some factory diagnostic/programming connector. In other words, ignore it
unless you're interested in scoping it.

> What do you mean by "direct-write"?

Transferring video data from the analogue tuner across the PCI bus into the
video card's frame buffer using bus mastering DMA.

> FWIW I have got an Easycap DC60 to produce video, and am using the "line in"
> for the audio. My main problem now is getting my Epson R300 to print CD
> labels in the centre of the disk using Inkscape, but that's for another
> time!

Good, good!

>
> Regards
>

Best Regards,
Alex



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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 14:46:46 +0000
From: David Smith <David.Smith@imgtec.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] WinTV HVR-1100 (was 2 TV cards - can they work
together!?)
Message-ID:
<15A9D35B5490FC49AC0524AE3A085F086A101B@BRMAIL01.br.imgtec.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:bristol-
> bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Peter Hemmings
> On 22/07/14 10:15, David Smith wrote:
> > No, that's not the connector for sending the data to the graphics card
> > - it's a standard DIL IDC connector (like the sort that were used on
> > IDE (ATA) disk drives and floppy drives). Your card should be
> > direct-write.
>
>
> Enlighten me!
>
> All my old ATA cables were 2 lines of pins or are they too new!?
>
> What do you mean by "direct-write"?

Alex has already answered your questions.

Sorry, I assumed that you'd know what I was talking about given how long you've been messing about with electronics and computers :)

Yes, IDE (ATA) cables are two rows of pins. I meant those, as opposed to SATA cables which use a completely different type of connector.

Anyway, I've tried to find some pictures of cards with the DIL IDC alternate feature connectors on, and failed; I think they're rare enough now to be virtually non-existent. Unfortunately I think I've thrown my old one away :(



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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:03:01 +0100 (BST)
From: Alex Butcher <lug@assursys.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] WinTV HVR-1100 (was 2 TV cards - can they work
together!?)
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.03.1407221601490.5630@nffheflf.pb.hx>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

On Tue, 22 Jul 2014, David Smith wrote:

> Anyway, I've tried to find some pictures of cards with the DIL IDC alternate feature connectors on, and failed; I think they're rare enough now to be virtually non-existent. Unfortunately I think I've thrown my old one away :(

There's a VESA Advanced Feature Connector in the top left of

<http://www.hattix.co.uk/hardware/rendition_v2100_big.jpg>

Best Regards,
Alex



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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:14:55 +0000
From: David Smith <David.Smith@imgtec.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] WinTV HVR-1100 (was 2 TV cards - can they work
together!?)
Message-ID:
<15A9D35B5490FC49AC0524AE3A085F086A107C@BRMAIL01.br.imgtec.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:bristol-
> bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Alex Butcher
> There's a VESA Advanced Feature Connector in the top left of
>
> <http://www.hattix.co.uk/hardware/rendition_v2100_big.jpg>

You did a better job of searching than me. I've just worked out why - it's actually a "Feature Connector" - the "Advanced Feature Connector" was a higher-density version with more pins.



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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 19:54:08 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Meeting this Saturday!
Message-ID: <53CEB350.5020108@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed


For those of you who might have forgotten, it's the fourth Saturday of
July at the weekend!


I will try to hobble along.


All the details are on the site:

http://www.bristol.lug.org.uk/

(Yes I know it needs updating)


Regards


--
Peter H



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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 08:06:40 +0100
From: Chris <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Meeting this Saturday!
Message-ID: <accdd5b7-15a5-434d-a774-8b4619cc33fb@email.android.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On 22 July 2014 19:54:08 BST, Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>
>For those of you who might have forgotten, it's the fourth Saturday of
>
>July at the weekend!
>
>
>I will try to hobble along.
>
>
>All the details are on the site:
>
>http://www.bristol.lug.org.uk/
>
>(Yes I know it needs updating)
>
>
>Regards

I'll be there about 13.30.

People who haven't been before should note most people won't arrive until after 13.30

Chris




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