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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy (Karl Southern)
2. Re: Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy (Martin Moore)
3. Re: Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy (Sebastian)
4. Re: Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy (Martin Moore)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 14:26:42 +0000
From: Karl Southern <karl@theangryangel.co.uk>
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
Message-ID: <52790022.3090406@theangryangel.co.uk>
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Assuming "Unmanaged" is being displayed in something that uses Network
Manager (which tends to be the default GUI tools in gnome, kde, etc.),
this means that it's not being managed by Network Manager. This means
that there is an entry in /etc/network/interfaces for this interface.
When there is Network Manager does not attempt to manage the device and
classes it as unmanaged.
If you want Network Manager to manage your device, which you probably
should do on a non-server installation, remove the entry in
/etc/network/interfaces and /etc/init.d/networking restart should bring
everything into line on that front.
Assuming your DHCP server hands out the DNS server option with sane
values, the dhcp client should've updated /etc/resolv.conf, check there
are entries in there and that can you query them using nslookup/dig/host
(whatever you prefer).
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 14:39:09 -0000
From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
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That makes a lot of sense - it also explains why there is no entry for wlan
in interfaces. I'll remove eth0 from interfaces and see what happens.
DHCP server is fine - it's my Virgin Superhub that does various bits of kit!
Cheers,
Martin.
-----Original Message-----
From: Karl Southern [mailto:karl@theangryangel.co.uk]
Sent: 05 November 2013 14:27
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk; Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
Assuming "Unmanaged" is being displayed in something that uses Network
Manager (which tends to be the default GUI tools in gnome, kde, etc.), this
means that it's not being managed by Network Manager. This means that there
is an entry in /etc/network/interfaces for this interface.
When there is Network Manager does not attempt to manage the device and
classes it as unmanaged.
If you want Network Manager to manage your device, which you probably should
do on a non-server installation, remove the entry in /etc/network/interfaces
and /etc/init.d/networking restart should bring everything into line on that
front.
Assuming your DHCP server hands out the DNS server option with sane values,
the dhcp client should've updated /etc/resolv.conf, check there are entries
in there and that can you query them using nslookup/dig/host (whatever you
prefer).
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 15:09:50 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
Message-ID: <52790A3E.60305@gmx.com>
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On 05/11/13 14:39, Martin Moore wrote:
> That makes a lot of sense - it also explains why there is no entry for wlan
> in interfaces. I'll remove eth0 from interfaces and see what happens.
>
> DHCP server is fine - it's my Virgin Superhub that does various bits of kit!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Martin.
Yes that was useful information from Karl.
I was actually having connection issues with my Ethernet in another
distro quite a few weeks or so ago. What made everything more
confussing though was how I had Network Manager, but also another
program that by default was set up to control the connection. This
program would also for me not just show itself like network manager that
it was there as well being used whilst GNOME 3 was running, altough
sometimes I could get an icon etc for it showing there as well some how
in GNOME Shell. However since network manager was not being used it
would always say that the connections were unmanaged, until I set things up.
I tried too configure network manager graphically to begin with in GNOME
3, but it wouldn't quite switch things over to using network manager
properly instead of the other program, it would keep on not working at
all, or losing the Internet/Ethernet connection after a while. How
annoying, since I wanted to use it at the time! However after doing
what it said to do on a Wiki page for that distro and running a few
commands to get it using network manager by default basically instead of
the other program, problem solved. Wireless also needed to be set up
with network manager instead of the other program I think, or well for
it to show the available wireless networks how I wanted anyway.
Yes rather frustrating when the Internet doesn't just work properly I
think, and I assume you don't have the kind of issue I had, but still,
good luck with yours :).
Regards
Sebastian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karl Southern [mailto:karl@theangryangel.co.uk]
> Sent: 05 November 2013 14:27
> To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk; Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
>
> Assuming "Unmanaged" is being displayed in something that uses Network
> Manager (which tends to be the default GUI tools in gnome, kde, etc.), this
> means that it's not being managed by Network Manager. This means that there
> is an entry in /etc/network/interfaces for this interface.
> When there is Network Manager does not attempt to manage the device and
> classes it as unmanaged.
>
> If you want Network Manager to manage your device, which you probably should
> do on a non-server installation, remove the entry in /etc/network/interfaces
> and /etc/init.d/networking restart should bring everything into line on that
> front.
>
> Assuming your DHCP server hands out the DNS server option with sane values,
> the dhcp client should've updated /etc/resolv.conf, check there are entries
> in there and that can you query them using nslookup/dig/host (whatever you
> prefer).
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>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 16:09:13 -0000
From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
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Right, managed to get in via the back door and now running a managed eth0
and wlan0.
Windows remote desktop session is much faster now.
Cheers.
Martin.
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From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
[mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Sebastian
Sent: 05 November 2013 15:10
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk; Bristol and Bath Linux User Group; Sebastian
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
On 05/11/13 14:39, Martin Moore wrote:
> That makes a lot of sense - it also explains why there is no entry for
> wlan in interfaces. I'll remove eth0 from interfaces and see what happens.
>
> DHCP server is fine - it's my Virgin Superhub that does various bits of
kit!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Martin.
Yes that was useful information from Karl.
I was actually having connection issues with my Ethernet in another distro
quite a few weeks or so ago. What made everything more confussing though
was how I had Network Manager, but also another program that by default was
set up to control the connection. This program would also for me not just
show itself like network manager that it was there as well being used whilst
GNOME 3 was running, altough sometimes I could get an icon etc for it
showing there as well some how in GNOME Shell. However since network
manager was not being used it would always say that the connections were
unmanaged, until I set things up.
I tried too configure network manager graphically to begin with in GNOME 3,
but it wouldn't quite switch things over to using network manager properly
instead of the other program, it would keep on not working at all, or losing
the Internet/Ethernet connection after a while. How annoying, since I wanted
to use it at the time! However after doing what it said to do on a Wiki
page for that distro and running a few commands to get it using network
manager by default basically instead of the other program, problem solved.
Wireless also needed to be set up with network manager instead of the other
program I think, or well for it to show the available wireless networks how
I wanted anyway.
Yes rather frustrating when the Internet doesn't just work properly I think,
and I assume you don't have the kind of issue I had, but still, good luck
with yours :).
Regards
Sebastian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karl Southern [mailto:karl@theangryangel.co.uk]
> Sent: 05 November 2013 14:27
> To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk; Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
>
> Assuming "Unmanaged" is being displayed in something that uses Network
> Manager (which tends to be the default GUI tools in gnome, kde, etc.),
> this means that it's not being managed by Network Manager. This means
> that there is an entry in /etc/network/interfaces for this interface.
> When there is Network Manager does not attempt to manage the device
> and classes it as unmanaged.
>
> If you want Network Manager to manage your device, which you probably
> should do on a non-server installation, remove the entry in
> /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/init.d/networking restart should
> bring everything into line on that front.
>
> Assuming your DHCP server hands out the DNS server option with sane
> values, the dhcp client should've updated /etc/resolv.conf, check
> there are entries in there and that can you query them using
> nslookup/dig/host (whatever you prefer).
> -----
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3615/6808 - Release Date:
> 11/04/13
>
>
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