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Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 22:12:59 +0000
From: Kyriakos Sideris <k.sideris@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Devolo Powerline Adapter - Noisy ?
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On 27 November 2013 10:54, James Womack <5inowsy1maiq@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 27/11/13 09:54, Andrew McLean wrote:
> > Recently started using a Devolo 500Duo+ PLA in the Living Room, with
> > another
> > next to the router upstairs.
> > They work OK, but certain members of the family are complaining about
> > a high-piched noise coming from it (no, we don't have a dog...!).
> >
> > Has anyone here experience this ? Do they normally make a noise, or is
> > this
> > unit faulty ? I myself can hear a very high-piched noise which comes
> > and goes
> > with the traffic (indicated by the green LED), which is presumably a
> > magnetostrictive effect, but I realise such noises can be hard to deal
> > with.
> > I realise that in an office environment there's too much noise from
> > everything
> > else for this to be noticeable, but it's different at home (we hope).
> >
> > They're the first PLAs I've tried, so I've nothing to compare them with.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> I don't use PLAs, but I am someone who can hear quite high pitched
> noises and can attest to how annoying they can be. Consistent high
> pitched noises from electronics (such as those emitted by CRTs) are not
> so problematic for me, but irregular noises can be very annoying indeed.
> I used to have an Asus EeePC 701 which emitted high pitched squeals
> under load. My wife could not hear it, so was puzzled by my annoyance!
>
> My suspicion would be that the noise is not something common to all
> PLAs, and possibly not even to all PLAs of the model you describe. In my
> experience, the amount of noise emitted from devices varies from unit to
> unit. One unit may emit very quietly, while another identical unit can
> be annoyingly loud.
>
> Regards,
> James
>
>
>
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I was recently researching powerlan adapter's and I remember that this
gentleman had the same problem you are describing:
http://amzn.to/IjuY1t
According to him, Devolo mailed me to say this is not normal...
Cheers,
Kyriakos
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Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 22:38:43 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: [bristol] Graphics designer/s wanted
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Hi
We are having issues in the (non-profit 100% community volunteers
driven) Mageia project, when it comes to getting artwork proposals for
the next release Mageia 4. I thought that if I emailed about that to
this mailing list, that maybe at least a few of you, would be interested
in making some proposals for the default background, (and even if you
don't use the distro yourself). or that some of you may know of someone
else who would probably be.
The default background must be a design, and photos can't be used as the
default background, with all Mageia artwork having to be licensed under
the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike license it, and only
artwork that people have created them selves is allowed, and they must
be able to confirm that they made it themselves. For additional
backgrounds photo's are allowed.
To be honest time really is on the verge of running out for new Mageia 4
default background proposals, hence this email. Without new artwork
the Mageia 3 artwork will be used in Mageia 4 as well it seems, and
personally I would like for the next release to have new artwork.
For the proposals I would suggest going with a blue colour scheme and
making a similar design as the default backgrounds of Mageia 3 or Mageia
2, or even old Mandriva releases such as the Mandriva 2010 series before
the Mageia fork.
If you are interested in helping out with this, please reply back to
this email on list or off list as soon as possible, and thank you in
advanced for any help with this.
http://blog.mageia.org/en/2013/09/09/help-make-mageia-4-beautiful/
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Artwork_guidelines
Regards
Sebastian
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3. Re: Devolo Powerline Adapter - Noisy ? (d.hockinbt)
4. Re: Devolo Powerline Adapter - Noisy ? (James Womack)
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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 09:54:29 +0000
From: Andrew McLean <am57762@gmail.com>
To: LUG <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Devolo Powerline Adapter - Noisy ?
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Recently started using a Devolo 500Duo+ PLA in the Living Room, with
another
next to the router upstairs.
They work OK, but certain members of the family are complaining about
a high-piched noise coming from it (no, we don't have a dog...!).
Has anyone here experience this ? Do they normally make a noise, or is this
unit faulty ? I myself can hear a very high-piched noise which comes
and goes
with the traffic (indicated by the green LED), which is presumably a
magnetostrictive effect, but I realise such noises can be hard to deal
with.
I realise that in an office environment there's too much noise from
everything
else for this to be noticeable, but it's different at home (we hope).
They're the first PLAs I've tried, so I've nothing to compare them with.
Andrew
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 10:12:43 +0000
From: Jamie Harris <j@mie.uk.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Devolo Powerline Adapter - Noisy ?
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I've got a few of the 200Mb Develo PLAs at home and haven't noticed any
noise, friends and family also have various models of Devolo PLAs and I've
not heard them complain.
cheers
Jamie
On 27 November 2013 09:54, Andrew McLean <am57762@gmail.com> wrote:
> Recently started using a Devolo 500Duo+ PLA in the Living Room, with
> another
> next to the router upstairs.
> They work OK, but certain members of the family are complaining about
> a high-piched noise coming from it (no, we don't have a dog...!).
>
> Has anyone here experience this ? Do they normally make a noise, or is this
> unit faulty ? I myself can hear a very high-piched noise which comes and
> goes
> with the traffic (indicated by the green LED), which is presumably a
> magnetostrictive effect, but I realise such noises can be hard to deal
> with.
> I realise that in an office environment there's too much noise from
> everything
> else for this to be noticeable, but it's different at home (we hope).
>
> They're the first PLAs I've tried, so I've nothing to compare them with.
>
> Andrew
>
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From: "d.hockinbt" <d.hockin@btinternet.com>
To: "Bristol and Bath Linux User Group" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Devolo Powerline Adapter - Noisy ?
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Some makes of PLAs make a lot of RF interference, even though they are
"supposed" to notch out the ham bands....some do, but not well. It could be
physical instabilty from badly mounted components suffering from magnetic
resonances.
Dave (Posset) G4UGT
----- Original Message -----
From: Jamie Harris
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [bristol] Devolo Powerline Adapter - Noisy ?
I've got a few of the 200Mb Develo PLAs at home and haven't noticed any
noise, friends and family also have various models of Devolo PLAs and I've
not heard them complain.
cheers
Jamie
On 27 November 2013 09:54, Andrew McLean <am57762@gmail.com> wrote:
Recently started using a Devolo 500Duo+ PLA in the Living Room, with another
next to the router upstairs.
They work OK, but certain members of the family are complaining about
a high-piched noise coming from it (no, we don't have a dog...!).
Has anyone here experience this ? Do they normally make a noise, or is this
unit faulty ? I myself can hear a very high-piched noise which comes and
goes
with the traffic (indicated by the green LED), which is presumably a
magnetostrictive effect, but I realise such noises can be hard to deal with.
I realise that in an office environment there's too much noise from
everything
else for this to be noticeable, but it's different at home (we hope).
They're the first PLAs I've tried, so I've nothing to compare them with.
Andrew
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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 10:54:50 +0000
From: James Womack <5inowsy1maiq@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Devolo Powerline Adapter - Noisy ?
Message-ID: <5295CF7A.2060509@gmail.com>
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On 27/11/13 09:54, Andrew McLean wrote:
> Recently started using a Devolo 500Duo+ PLA in the Living Room, with
> another
> next to the router upstairs.
> They work OK, but certain members of the family are complaining about
> a high-piched noise coming from it (no, we don't have a dog...!).
>
> Has anyone here experience this ? Do they normally make a noise, or is
> this
> unit faulty ? I myself can hear a very high-piched noise which comes
> and goes
> with the traffic (indicated by the green LED), which is presumably a
> magnetostrictive effect, but I realise such noises can be hard to deal
> with.
> I realise that in an office environment there's too much noise from
> everything
> else for this to be noticeable, but it's different at home (we hope).
>
> They're the first PLAs I've tried, so I've nothing to compare them with.
>
> Andrew
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bristol mailing list
> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
I don't use PLAs, but I am someone who can hear quite high pitched
noises and can attest to how annoying they can be. Consistent high
pitched noises from electronics (such as those emitted by CRTs) are not
so problematic for me, but irregular noises can be very annoying indeed.
I used to have an Asus EeePC 701 which emitted high pitched squeals
under load. My wife could not hear it, so was puzzled by my annoyance!
My suspicion would be that the noise is not something common to all
PLAs, and possibly not even to all PLAs of the model you describe. In my
experience, the amount of noise emitted from devices varies from unit to
unit. One unit may emit very quietly, while another identical unit can
be annoyingly loud.
Regards,
James
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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 09:54:29 +0000
From: Andrew McLean <am57762@gmail.com>
To: LUG <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Devolo Powerline Adapter - Noisy ?
Message-ID: <5295C155.8080208@gmail.com>
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Recently started using a Devolo 500Duo+ PLA in the Living Room, with
another
next to the router upstairs.
They work OK, but certain members of the family are complaining about
a high-piched noise coming from it (no, we don't have a dog...!).
Has anyone here experience this ? Do they normally make a noise, or is this
unit faulty ? I myself can hear a very high-piched noise which comes
and goes
with the traffic (indicated by the green LED), which is presumably a
magnetostrictive effect, but I realise such noises can be hard to deal
with.
I realise that in an office environment there's too much noise from
everything
else for this to be noticeable, but it's different at home (we hope).
They're the first PLAs I've tried, so I've nothing to compare them with.
Andrew
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 10:12:43 +0000
From: Jamie Harris <j@mie.uk.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Devolo Powerline Adapter - Noisy ?
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I've got a few of the 200Mb Develo PLAs at home and haven't noticed any
noise, friends and family also have various models of Devolo PLAs and I've
not heard them complain.
cheers
Jamie
On 27 November 2013 09:54, Andrew McLean <am57762@gmail.com> wrote:
> Recently started using a Devolo 500Duo+ PLA in the Living Room, with
> another
> next to the router upstairs.
> They work OK, but certain members of the family are complaining about
> a high-piched noise coming from it (no, we don't have a dog...!).
>
> Has anyone here experience this ? Do they normally make a noise, or is this
> unit faulty ? I myself can hear a very high-piched noise which comes and
> goes
> with the traffic (indicated by the green LED), which is presumably a
> magnetostrictive effect, but I realise such noises can be hard to deal
> with.
> I realise that in an office environment there's too much noise from
> everything
> else for this to be noticeable, but it's different at home (we hope).
>
> They're the first PLAs I've tried, so I've nothing to compare them with.
>
> Andrew
>
> _______________________________________________
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From: "d.hockinbt" <d.hockin@btinternet.com>
To: "Bristol and Bath Linux User Group" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Devolo Powerline Adapter - Noisy ?
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Some makes of PLAs make a lot of RF interference, even though they are
"supposed" to notch out the ham bands....some do, but not well. It could be
physical instabilty from badly mounted components suffering from magnetic
resonances.
Dave (Posset) G4UGT
----- Original Message -----
From: Jamie Harris
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [bristol] Devolo Powerline Adapter - Noisy ?
I've got a few of the 200Mb Develo PLAs at home and haven't noticed any
noise, friends and family also have various models of Devolo PLAs and I've
not heard them complain.
cheers
Jamie
On 27 November 2013 09:54, Andrew McLean <am57762@gmail.com> wrote:
Recently started using a Devolo 500Duo+ PLA in the Living Room, with another
next to the router upstairs.
They work OK, but certain members of the family are complaining about
a high-piched noise coming from it (no, we don't have a dog...!).
Has anyone here experience this ? Do they normally make a noise, or is this
unit faulty ? I myself can hear a very high-piched noise which comes and
goes
with the traffic (indicated by the green LED), which is presumably a
magnetostrictive effect, but I realise such noises can be hard to deal with.
I realise that in an office environment there's too much noise from
everything
else for this to be noticeable, but it's different at home (we hope).
They're the first PLAs I've tried, so I've nothing to compare them with.
Andrew
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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 10:54:50 +0000
From: James Womack <5inowsy1maiq@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Devolo Powerline Adapter - Noisy ?
Message-ID: <5295CF7A.2060509@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
On 27/11/13 09:54, Andrew McLean wrote:
> Recently started using a Devolo 500Duo+ PLA in the Living Room, with
> another
> next to the router upstairs.
> They work OK, but certain members of the family are complaining about
> a high-piched noise coming from it (no, we don't have a dog...!).
>
> Has anyone here experience this ? Do they normally make a noise, or is
> this
> unit faulty ? I myself can hear a very high-piched noise which comes
> and goes
> with the traffic (indicated by the green LED), which is presumably a
> magnetostrictive effect, but I realise such noises can be hard to deal
> with.
> I realise that in an office environment there's too much noise from
> everything
> else for this to be noticeable, but it's different at home (we hope).
>
> They're the first PLAs I've tried, so I've nothing to compare them with.
>
> Andrew
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bristol mailing list
> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
I don't use PLAs, but I am someone who can hear quite high pitched
noises and can attest to how annoying they can be. Consistent high
pitched noises from electronics (such as those emitted by CRTs) are not
so problematic for me, but irregular noises can be very annoying indeed.
I used to have an Asus EeePC 701 which emitted high pitched squeals
under load. My wife could not hear it, so was puzzled by my annoyance!
My suspicion would be that the noise is not something common to all
PLAs, and possibly not even to all PLAs of the model you describe. In my
experience, the amount of noise emitted from devices varies from unit to
unit. One unit may emit very quietly, while another identical unit can
be annoyingly loud.
Regards,
James
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2. Re: Copying links without inadvertently copying the linked
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3. Re: Copying links without inadvertently copying the linked
files instead (Chris Makepeace)
4. off topic high speck laptop for sale!! (trahern culver)
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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 13:35:29 -0000
From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Copying links without inadvertently copying the
linked files instead
Message-ID:
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% du -sh --max-depth=1 directoryname
Will give the total size, otherwise you'll list every file in the tree.
From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
[mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Conor O'Neill
Sent: 23 November 2013 11:12
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Copying links without inadvertently copying the
linked files instead
On 22/11/13 17:17, Chris Makepeace wrote:
(Mac-related; act accordingly.)
One of the Mac's little features is Time Machine, their hourly incremental
backup program which, I understand, behaves like rsync, in that each time it
runs it only actually copies changed files and maintains only a tree of
links to the unchanged ones. I have a tree of approx 490GB that needs to be
shifted to another disk. When this tree is looked at via the UI it is shown
as 13TB big, thanks to all the links being expanded in the process.
I have tried cp -R to copy a single day's subtree and the result looked like
it was copying files not links. I get lost trying to sort out symbolic v
hard links and so on, hard though it may be to believe.
What syntax would allow me to just shift the whole tree onto another device
safely, please? And to determine the tree's actual (unexpanded) size?
% du -sh directoryname
This shows directory sizes (du stands for disk usage).
"man du" should tell you about more options.
Regards - Conor
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From: D J Stewart <bblug@iridium.org.uk>
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
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On Sat, 23 Nov 2013, Martin Moore wrote:
> % du -sh --max-depth=1 directoryname
You can save yourself some typing if you drop the --max-depth=1
> Will give the total size, otherwise you'll list every file in the tree.
$ du -sh ~/
67G /home/dave/
>From du(1):
-s, --summarize
display only a total for each argument
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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 01:22:55 +0000
From: Chris Makepeace <chris@makepeace.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Copying links without inadvertently copying the
linked files instead
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Many thanks everybody - the great file transfer is underway with reassuring
'cp symlink:.... File exists' every now and then. The Mac cp -a-ing
through the tree to my little NAS-alike (NSA310) and trying to do anything
on it while this has been going on has been unbelievably slow: 20 second
waits to change tabs in a browser - like an old XP installation ( I know
because I have one and it's going to be Ubuntu-ed or Mint-ed tomorrow,
depending on which distro I have will still run on a 2005 Celeron...).
?Cheers and thanks again,
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From: trahern culver <sound.warrior20@gmail.com>
To: list@dcglug.org.uk
Cc: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] off topic high speck laptop for sale!!
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hey all i'm offering my current studio lap top for sale. its a 14 inch xenon with 1tb hard drive 8gb ram and i7 quod core processor running at 2.86 ghz it has a dvd and cd rom combo drive with 3 usb ports and standed blue tooth and wlan features it will come clean with no os and the price is ?800 please e-mail me if interested thanks for reeding and i hope to here from you soon kind regards trahern.
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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 13:35:29 -0000
From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Copying links without inadvertently copying the
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% du -sh --max-depth=1 directoryname
Will give the total size, otherwise you'll list every file in the tree.
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[mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Conor O'Neill
Sent: 23 November 2013 11:12
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Copying links without inadvertently copying the
linked files instead
On 22/11/13 17:17, Chris Makepeace wrote:
(Mac-related; act accordingly.)
One of the Mac's little features is Time Machine, their hourly incremental
backup program which, I understand, behaves like rsync, in that each time it
runs it only actually copies changed files and maintains only a tree of
links to the unchanged ones. I have a tree of approx 490GB that needs to be
shifted to another disk. When this tree is looked at via the UI it is shown
as 13TB big, thanks to all the links being expanded in the process.
I have tried cp -R to copy a single day's subtree and the result looked like
it was copying files not links. I get lost trying to sort out symbolic v
hard links and so on, hard though it may be to believe.
What syntax would allow me to just shift the whole tree onto another device
safely, please? And to determine the tree's actual (unexpanded) size?
% du -sh directoryname
This shows directory sizes (du stands for disk usage).
"man du" should tell you about more options.
Regards - Conor
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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 15:53:12 +0000 (GMT)
From: D J Stewart <bblug@iridium.org.uk>
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Copying links without inadvertently copying the
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On Sat, 23 Nov 2013, Martin Moore wrote:
> % du -sh --max-depth=1 directoryname
You can save yourself some typing if you drop the --max-depth=1
> Will give the total size, otherwise you'll list every file in the tree.
$ du -sh ~/
67G /home/dave/
>From du(1):
-s, --summarize
display only a total for each argument
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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 01:22:55 +0000
From: Chris Makepeace <chris@makepeace.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Copying links without inadvertently copying the
linked files instead
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Many thanks everybody - the great file transfer is underway with reassuring
'cp symlink:.... File exists' every now and then. The Mac cp -a-ing
through the tree to my little NAS-alike (NSA310) and trying to do anything
on it while this has been going on has been unbelievably slow: 20 second
waits to change tabs in a browser - like an old XP installation ( I know
because I have one and it's going to be Ubuntu-ed or Mint-ed tomorrow,
depending on which distro I have will still run on a 2005 Celeron...).
?Cheers and thanks again,
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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 02:56:14 +0000
From: trahern culver <sound.warrior20@gmail.com>
To: list@dcglug.org.uk
Cc: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] off topic high speck laptop for sale!!
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hey all i'm offering my current studio lap top for sale. its a 14 inch xenon with 1tb hard drive 8gb ram and i7 quod core processor running at 2.86 ghz it has a dvd and cd rom combo drive with 3 usb ports and standed blue tooth and wlan features it will come clean with no os and the price is ?800 please e-mail me if interested thanks for reeding and i hope to here from you soon kind regards trahern.
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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:17:04 +0000
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Subject: [bristol] Copying links without inadvertently copying the
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(Mac-related; act accordingly.)
One of the Mac's little features is Time Machine, their hourly incremental
backup program which, I understand, behaves like rsync, in that each time
it runs it only actually copies changed files and maintains only a tree of
links to the unchanged ones. I have a tree of approx 490GB that needs to
be shifted to another disk. When this tree is looked at via the UI it is
shown as 13TB big, thanks to all the links being expanded in the process.
I have tried cp -R to copy a single day's subtree and the result looked
like it was copying files not links. I get lost trying to sort out
symbolic v hard links and so on, hard though it may be to believe.
What syntax would allow me to just shift the whole tree onto another device
safely, please? And to determine the tree's actual (unexpanded) size?
?Sorry if this is a bit too elementary for you.?
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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:20:41 +0000
From: David Smith <Dave.Smith@st.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Copying links without inadvertently copying the
linked files instead
Message-ID: <528F9269.9030308@st.com>
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On 11/22/13 17:17, Chris Makepeace wrote:
> What syntax would allow me to just shift the whole tree onto another
> device safely, please? And to determine the tree's actual (unexpanded)
> size?
Provided you're using GNU cp, just use "cp -a". It does a recursive
copy, preserving permissions and links.
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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 11:12:11 +0000
From: Conor O'Neill <conor_lists@puddle.co.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Copying links without inadvertently copying the
linked files instead
Message-ID: <52908D8B.4040402@puddle.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
On 22/11/13 17:17, Chris Makepeace wrote:
> (Mac-related; act accordingly.)
>
> One of the Mac's little features is Time Machine, their hourly
> incremental backup program which, I understand, behaves like rsync, in
> that each time it runs it only actually copies changed files and
> maintains only a tree of links to the unchanged ones. I have a tree
> of approx 490GB that needs to be shifted to another disk. When this
> tree is looked at via the UI it is shown as 13TB big, thanks to all
> the links being expanded in the process.
>
> I have tried cp -R to copy a single day's subtree and the result
> looked like it was copying files not links. I get lost trying to sort
> out symbolic v hard links and so on, hard though it may be to believe.
>
> What syntax would allow me to just shift the whole tree onto another
> device safely, please? And to determine the tree's actual
> (unexpanded) size?
% du -sh directoryname
This shows directory sizes (du stands for disk usage).
"man du" should tell you about more options.
Regards - Conor
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(Mac-related; act accordingly.)
One of the Mac's little features is Time Machine, their hourly incremental
backup program which, I understand, behaves like rsync, in that each time
it runs it only actually copies changed files and maintains only a tree of
links to the unchanged ones. I have a tree of approx 490GB that needs to
be shifted to another disk. When this tree is looked at via the UI it is
shown as 13TB big, thanks to all the links being expanded in the process.
I have tried cp -R to copy a single day's subtree and the result looked
like it was copying files not links. I get lost trying to sort out
symbolic v hard links and so on, hard though it may be to believe.
What syntax would allow me to just shift the whole tree onto another device
safely, please? And to determine the tree's actual (unexpanded) size?
?Sorry if this is a bit too elementary for you.?
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Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:20:41 +0000
From: David Smith <Dave.Smith@st.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Copying links without inadvertently copying the
linked files instead
Message-ID: <528F9269.9030308@st.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
On 11/22/13 17:17, Chris Makepeace wrote:
> What syntax would allow me to just shift the whole tree onto another
> device safely, please? And to determine the tree's actual (unexpanded)
> size?
Provided you're using GNU cp, just use "cp -a". It does a recursive
copy, preserving permissions and links.
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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 11:12:11 +0000
From: Conor O'Neill <conor_lists@puddle.co.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Copying links without inadvertently copying the
linked files instead
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
On 22/11/13 17:17, Chris Makepeace wrote:
> (Mac-related; act accordingly.)
>
> One of the Mac's little features is Time Machine, their hourly
> incremental backup program which, I understand, behaves like rsync, in
> that each time it runs it only actually copies changed files and
> maintains only a tree of links to the unchanged ones. I have a tree
> of approx 490GB that needs to be shifted to another disk. When this
> tree is looked at via the UI it is shown as 13TB big, thanks to all
> the links being expanded in the process.
>
> I have tried cp -R to copy a single day's subtree and the result
> looked like it was copying files not links. I get lost trying to sort
> out symbolic v hard links and so on, hard though it may be to believe.
>
> What syntax would allow me to just shift the whole tree onto another
> device safely, please? And to determine the tree's actual
> (unexpanded) size?
% du -sh directoryname
This shows directory sizes (du stands for disk usage).
"man du" should tell you about more options.
Regards - Conor
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:40:51 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
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Subject: [bristol] LUG meeting this Saturday 23/11/13
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Hi
It's that time again this Saturday for another BBLUG meeting at the
Knight's Templar in Bristol near Temple Meads Train Station:
http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/pubs/the-knights-templar
We meet up between 1pm (or maybe 12:30pm) and 5pm. With people turning
up and leaving when they would like to. Sometimes meetings go on until
about 6pm, but it depends on who is there, and what is happening.
We sit on the lower level at the back, on the left by the plugs when
entering the pub or very near there instead. I will probably be there
about 2pm, but for someone new I would suggest not turning up until
1:30pm by the earliest, when it is more likely that at least someone
else will be there as well. New people are very welcome to come along
as well :).
We talk about different things at those meeting's and not just Linux or
other opensource/freesoftware, and it really does depend on who's there
what is talked about.
People can come along to show attendees Linux/tech related things if
they would like to, that may be of interest to other attendees. People
can also for example come along to try and get some technical help with
Linux related problems at the meeting, depending on what the issue is
and who is there.
Free pub WIFI available at the pub, and food and drinks available to order.
If you are a regular or a new person that is intending on coming along,
please optionally reply back to this email saying that you will be
coming and at what time. If you are new please also optionally send a
basic introduction about yourself to this mailing list, although that is
not required to attend the meeting.
Regards
Sebastian
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:51:42 +0100
From: Angelo Danio <angelo.danio@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Cc: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LUG meeting this Saturday 23/11/13
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>
> It's that time again this Saturday for another BBLUG meeting at the
> Knight's Templar in Bristol near Temple Meads Train Station:
If you are a regular or a new person that is intending on coming along,
> please optionally reply back to this email saying that you will be coming
> and at what time. If you are new please also optionally send a basic
> introduction about yourself
>
I'll be please to join you this Saturday.
My name is Angelo, Italian, 62 linux user from 2006 (xubuntu 6.10, upgraded
to 13.04), actively participating to few Italian LUG.Last week I moved from
Sanremo to Portishead.
I'll be probably @ pub for lunch time
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 21:00:02 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Cc: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LUG meeting this Saturday 23/11/13
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On 20/11/13 19:51, Angelo Danio wrote:
>
> It's that time again this Saturday for another BBLUG meeting at
> the Knight's Templar in Bristol near Temple Meads Train Station:
>
> If you are a regular or a new person that is intending on coming
> along, please optionally reply back to this email saying that you
> will be coming and at what time. If you are new please also
> optionally send a basic introduction about yourself
>
> I'll be please to join you this Saturday.
> My name is Angelo, Italian, 62 linux user from 2006 (xubuntu 6.10,
> upgraded to 13.04), actively participating to few Italian LUG.Last
> week I moved from Sanremo to Portishead.
> I'll be probably @ pub for lunch time
> --
> Angelo
>
>
>
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Ok interesting and I look forward to meeting you at the LUG meeting :).
I'm a Mageia user and contributer now, the Mandriva fork started by
quite a few former developers. However I started with Fedora Core 2 and
4 2004 2005, and used Ubuntu as my distro of choice from the second
release in 2005, untill towards the end of 2009. I have also used
distributions such as Mandriva, PC Linux OS, and Linux Mint. I am not
mentioning a lot of details since this is only meant to be short and basic.
Regards
Sebastian
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:40:51 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
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Hi
It's that time again this Saturday for another BBLUG meeting at the
Knight's Templar in Bristol near Temple Meads Train Station:
http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/pubs/the-knights-templar
We meet up between 1pm (or maybe 12:30pm) and 5pm. With people turning
up and leaving when they would like to. Sometimes meetings go on until
about 6pm, but it depends on who is there, and what is happening.
We sit on the lower level at the back, on the left by the plugs when
entering the pub or very near there instead. I will probably be there
about 2pm, but for someone new I would suggest not turning up until
1:30pm by the earliest, when it is more likely that at least someone
else will be there as well. New people are very welcome to come along
as well :).
We talk about different things at those meeting's and not just Linux or
other opensource/freesoftware, and it really does depend on who's there
what is talked about.
People can come along to show attendees Linux/tech related things if
they would like to, that may be of interest to other attendees. People
can also for example come along to try and get some technical help with
Linux related problems at the meeting, depending on what the issue is
and who is there.
Free pub WIFI available at the pub, and food and drinks available to order.
If you are a regular or a new person that is intending on coming along,
please optionally reply back to this email saying that you will be
coming and at what time. If you are new please also optionally send a
basic introduction about yourself to this mailing list, although that is
not required to attend the meeting.
Regards
Sebastian
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:51:42 +0100
From: Angelo Danio <angelo.danio@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Cc: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LUG meeting this Saturday 23/11/13
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>
> It's that time again this Saturday for another BBLUG meeting at the
> Knight's Templar in Bristol near Temple Meads Train Station:
If you are a regular or a new person that is intending on coming along,
> please optionally reply back to this email saying that you will be coming
> and at what time. If you are new please also optionally send a basic
> introduction about yourself
>
I'll be please to join you this Saturday.
My name is Angelo, Italian, 62 linux user from 2006 (xubuntu 6.10, upgraded
to 13.04), actively participating to few Italian LUG.Last week I moved from
Sanremo to Portishead.
I'll be probably @ pub for lunch time
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 21:00:02 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
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On 20/11/13 19:51, Angelo Danio wrote:
>
> It's that time again this Saturday for another BBLUG meeting at
> the Knight's Templar in Bristol near Temple Meads Train Station:
>
> If you are a regular or a new person that is intending on coming
> along, please optionally reply back to this email saying that you
> will be coming and at what time. If you are new please also
> optionally send a basic introduction about yourself
>
> I'll be please to join you this Saturday.
> My name is Angelo, Italian, 62 linux user from 2006 (xubuntu 6.10,
> upgraded to 13.04), actively participating to few Italian LUG.Last
> week I moved from Sanremo to Portishead.
> I'll be probably @ pub for lunch time
> --
> Angelo
>
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Ok interesting and I look forward to meeting you at the LUG meeting :).
I'm a Mageia user and contributer now, the Mandriva fork started by
quite a few former developers. However I started with Fedora Core 2 and
4 2004 2005, and used Ubuntu as my distro of choice from the second
release in 2005, untill towards the end of 2009. I have also used
distributions such as Mandriva, PC Linux OS, and Linux Mint. I am not
mentioning a lot of details since this is only meant to be short and basic.
Regards
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Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 22:10:42 +0000
From: Keith Edmunds <kae@midnighthax.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 22:05:31 -0000, martinm@it-helps.co.uk said:
> The 'Autocreated on ticket submission' indicates the records I don't
> want.
So, as I suggested, remove the "Create tickets" right from the "Everyone"
group.
> So while sqlite may not be the best (but must have been the default for
> the installation otherwise I'd have chosen Postgres)
Yes, it is, and SQLite is fine for testing. However,
from /usr/share/doc/request-tracker4/NOTES.Debian.gz:
"If you installed request-tracker4 on its own, the database support
pulled in was SQLite; however, this isn't recommended by upstream for
production use.
We strongly recommend that you use MySQL or PostgreSQL for production
use, by installing rt4-db-mysql or rt4-db-postgresql."
> the problem is
> still that I'm getting new users when I don't want them.
See above.
--
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone
who will never be able to repay you."
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 09:17:50 -0000
From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] RT 3.8.8 users
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> So, as I suggested, remove the "Create tickets" right from the "Everyone"
group.
Done, but still get the new user record.
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Subject: Re: [bristol] RT 3.8.8 users
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 22:05:31 -0000, martinm@it-helps.co.uk said:
> The 'Autocreated on ticket submission' indicates the records I don't
> want.
So, as I suggested, remove the "Create tickets" right from the "Everyone"
group.
> So while sqlite may not be the best (but must have been the default
> for the installation otherwise I'd have chosen Postgres)
Yes, it is, and SQLite is fine for testing. However, from
/usr/share/doc/request-tracker4/NOTES.Debian.gz:
"If you installed request-tracker4 on its own, the database support pulled
in was SQLite; however, this isn't recommended by upstream for production
use.
We strongly recommend that you use MySQL or PostgreSQL for production use,
by installing rt4-db-mysql or rt4-db-postgresql."
> the problem is
> still that I'm getting new users when I don't want them.
See above.
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 22:05:31 -0000, martinm@it-helps.co.uk said:
> The 'Autocreated on ticket submission' indicates the records I don't
> want.
So, as I suggested, remove the "Create tickets" right from the "Everyone"
group.
> So while sqlite may not be the best (but must have been the default for
> the installation otherwise I'd have chosen Postgres)
Yes, it is, and SQLite is fine for testing. However,
from /usr/share/doc/request-tracker4/NOTES.Debian.gz:
"If you installed request-tracker4 on its own, the database support
pulled in was SQLite; however, this isn't recommended by upstream for
production use.
We strongly recommend that you use MySQL or PostgreSQL for production
use, by installing rt4-db-mysql or rt4-db-postgresql."
> the problem is
> still that I'm getting new users when I don't want them.
See above.
--
"You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone
who will never be able to repay you."
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 09:17:50 -0000
From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] RT 3.8.8 users
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> So, as I suggested, remove the "Create tickets" right from the "Everyone"
group.
Done, but still get the new user record.
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Subject: Re: [bristol] RT 3.8.8 users
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 22:05:31 -0000, martinm@it-helps.co.uk said:
> The 'Autocreated on ticket submission' indicates the records I don't
> want.
So, as I suggested, remove the "Create tickets" right from the "Everyone"
group.
> So while sqlite may not be the best (but must have been the default
> for the installation otherwise I'd have chosen Postgres)
Yes, it is, and SQLite is fine for testing. However, from
/usr/share/doc/request-tracker4/NOTES.Debian.gz:
"If you installed request-tracker4 on its own, the database support pulled
in was SQLite; however, this isn't recommended by upstream for production
use.
We strongly recommend that you use MySQL or PostgreSQL for production use,
by installing rt4-db-mysql or rt4-db-postgresql."
> the problem is
> still that I'm getting new users when I don't want them.
See above.
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Mornin' All.
I'm running RT 3.8.8, and it's been getting slower and slower. A bit of
database pruning has identified the cause as a huge number of users. These
are being added every time a new (almost certainly spam!) ticket is created
via email. Our previous version (3.4?) never did this.
All I can find is :
C<$SenderMustExistInExternalDatabase>
If C<$SenderMustExistInExternalDatabase> is true, RT will refuse to
create non-privileged accounts for unknown users if you are using
the C<$LookupSenderInExternalDatabase> option.
Instead, an error message will be mailed and RT will forward the
message to C<$RTOwner>.
If you are not using C<$LookupSenderInExternalDatabase>, this option
has no effect.
If you define an AutoRejectRequest template, RT will use this
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Mornin' All.
I'm running RT 3.8.8, and it's been getting slower and slower. A bit of
database pruning has identified the cause as a huge number of users. These
are being added every time a new (almost certainly spam!) ticket is created
via email. Our previous version (3.4?) never did this.
All I can find is :
C<$SenderMustExistInExternalDatabase>
If C<$SenderMustExistInExternalDatabase> is true, RT will refuse to
create non-privileged accounts for unknown users if you are using
the C<$LookupSenderInExternalDatabase> option.
Instead, an error message will be mailed and RT will forward the
message to C<$RTOwner>.
If you are not using C<$LookupSenderInExternalDatabase>, this option
has no effect.
If you define an AutoRejectRequest template, RT will use this
template for the rejection message.
However, I don't want a rejection message. If I don't define an
AutoRejectRequest template will a blank email get sent, or no email?
Cheers,
Martin.
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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 00:20:55 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: [bristol] Rikomagic Arm-based Ubuntu Mini-PC
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Hi
I recently just found out about the Rikomagic Arm-based Ubuntu Mini-PC
and I guess it would be a interesting way for many of us too spend about
?80, but would it really be worth us doing so or not I am wondering?
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/11/80-rikomagic-arm-based-ubuntu-mini-pc-starts-shipping
http://www.cloudsto.com/mk802iii-le-mini-linux-pc/mk802iv-le-quad-core-linux-edition-picuntu-linux-mini-pc-8gb-flash-storage-detail.html
http://www.cloudsto.com/mk802iii-le-mini-linux-pc.html
Regards
Sebastian
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 08:44:49 +0000
From: Chris <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Rikomagic Arm-based Ubuntu Mini-PC
Message-ID: <11086105-164d-4a98-b1a4-aa44fc1b6fce@email.android.com>
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Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com> wrote:
>Hi
>
>I recently just found out about the Rikomagic Arm-based Ubuntu Mini-PC
>and I guess it would be a interesting way for many of us too spend
>about
>?80, but would it really be worth us doing so or not I am wondering?
>
>http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/11/80-rikomagic-arm-based-ubuntu-mini-pc-starts-shipping
>
>http://www.cloudsto.com/mk802iii-le-mini-linux-pc/mk802iv-le-quad-core-linux-edition-picuntu-linux-mini-pc-8gb-flash-storage-detail.html
>
>http://www.cloudsto.com/mk802iii-le-mini-linux-pc.html
>
Hi Seb, I really like the idea of this for travelling and a thin client.
Extract from http://malideveloper.arm.com/develop-for-mali/drivers/open-source-mali-gpus-linux-kernel-device-drivers/
"""
Note that these components are not a complete driver stack. To build a functional OpenGL ES or OpenVG driver you need access to the full source code of the Mali GPU DDK, which is provided under the standard ARM commercial licence to all Mali GPU customers. For a complete integration of the Mali GPU DDK with the X11 environment refer to the Integration Guide supplied with the Mali GPU DDK.
The open source drivers provided on this page are designed to run with a version-compatible release of the Mali GPU DDK (currently r3p2). In functional and performance terms they are identical to the implementations provided under the commercial licence. By also releasing them under the GPLv2 licence we hope to make it easier to include Mali GPU drivers in any Linux or Android platform.
"""
The included Linux driver doesn't appear to include full acceleration (stated in the links you provided). I wonder if any Linux vendor is packaging full acceleration with assistance of the mentioned DDK.
No mention of keyboard, mouse / trackball or remote unless I missed it. I see wireless, no other suitable wireless port unless that's packaged in the SoC and not described in the by the articles.
Also USB power, so should hopefully be supported by many recent TVs if separate power is required for operation (don't know capabilities of HDMI ports for providing power.
Chris
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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 00:20:55 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
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Subject: [bristol] Rikomagic Arm-based Ubuntu Mini-PC
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi
I recently just found out about the Rikomagic Arm-based Ubuntu Mini-PC
and I guess it would be a interesting way for many of us too spend about
?80, but would it really be worth us doing so or not I am wondering?
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/11/80-rikomagic-arm-based-ubuntu-mini-pc-starts-shipping
http://www.cloudsto.com/mk802iii-le-mini-linux-pc/mk802iv-le-quad-core-linux-edition-picuntu-linux-mini-pc-8gb-flash-storage-detail.html
http://www.cloudsto.com/mk802iii-le-mini-linux-pc.html
Regards
Sebastian
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 08:44:49 +0000
From: Chris <cshorler@googlemail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Rikomagic Arm-based Ubuntu Mini-PC
Message-ID: <11086105-164d-4a98-b1a4-aa44fc1b6fce@email.android.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com> wrote:
>Hi
>
>I recently just found out about the Rikomagic Arm-based Ubuntu Mini-PC
>and I guess it would be a interesting way for many of us too spend
>about
>?80, but would it really be worth us doing so or not I am wondering?
>
>http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/11/80-rikomagic-arm-based-ubuntu-mini-pc-starts-shipping
>
>http://www.cloudsto.com/mk802iii-le-mini-linux-pc/mk802iv-le-quad-core-linux-edition-picuntu-linux-mini-pc-8gb-flash-storage-detail.html
>
>http://www.cloudsto.com/mk802iii-le-mini-linux-pc.html
>
Hi Seb, I really like the idea of this for travelling and a thin client.
Extract from http://malideveloper.arm.com/develop-for-mali/drivers/open-source-mali-gpus-linux-kernel-device-drivers/
"""
Note that these components are not a complete driver stack. To build a functional OpenGL ES or OpenVG driver you need access to the full source code of the Mali GPU DDK, which is provided under the standard ARM commercial licence to all Mali GPU customers. For a complete integration of the Mali GPU DDK with the X11 environment refer to the Integration Guide supplied with the Mali GPU DDK.
The open source drivers provided on this page are designed to run with a version-compatible release of the Mali GPU DDK (currently r3p2). In functional and performance terms they are identical to the implementations provided under the commercial licence. By also releasing them under the GPLv2 licence we hope to make it easier to include Mali GPU drivers in any Linux or Android platform.
"""
The included Linux driver doesn't appear to include full acceleration (stated in the links you provided). I wonder if any Linux vendor is packaging full acceleration with assistance of the mentioned DDK.
No mention of keyboard, mouse / trackball or remote unless I missed it. I see wireless, no other suitable wireless port unless that's packaged in the SoC and not described in the by the articles.
Also USB power, so should hopefully be supported by many recent TVs if separate power is required for operation (don't know capabilities of HDMI ports for providing power.
Chris
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1. Re: Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy (Karl Southern)
2. Re: Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy (Martin Moore)
3. Re: Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy (Sebastian)
4. Re: Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy (Martin Moore)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 14:26:42 +0000
From: Karl Southern <karl@theangryangel.co.uk>
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
Message-ID: <52790022.3090406@theangryangel.co.uk>
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Assuming "Unmanaged" is being displayed in something that uses Network
Manager (which tends to be the default GUI tools in gnome, kde, etc.),
this means that it's not being managed by Network Manager. This means
that there is an entry in /etc/network/interfaces for this interface.
When there is Network Manager does not attempt to manage the device and
classes it as unmanaged.
If you want Network Manager to manage your device, which you probably
should do on a non-server installation, remove the entry in
/etc/network/interfaces and /etc/init.d/networking restart should bring
everything into line on that front.
Assuming your DHCP server hands out the DNS server option with sane
values, the dhcp client should've updated /etc/resolv.conf, check there
are entries in there and that can you query them using nslookup/dig/host
(whatever you prefer).
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 14:39:09 -0000
From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
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That makes a lot of sense - it also explains why there is no entry for wlan
in interfaces. I'll remove eth0 from interfaces and see what happens.
DHCP server is fine - it's my Virgin Superhub that does various bits of kit!
Cheers,
Martin.
-----Original Message-----
From: Karl Southern [mailto:karl@theangryangel.co.uk]
Sent: 05 November 2013 14:27
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk; Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
Assuming "Unmanaged" is being displayed in something that uses Network
Manager (which tends to be the default GUI tools in gnome, kde, etc.), this
means that it's not being managed by Network Manager. This means that there
is an entry in /etc/network/interfaces for this interface.
When there is Network Manager does not attempt to manage the device and
classes it as unmanaged.
If you want Network Manager to manage your device, which you probably should
do on a non-server installation, remove the entry in /etc/network/interfaces
and /etc/init.d/networking restart should bring everything into line on that
front.
Assuming your DHCP server hands out the DNS server option with sane values,
the dhcp client should've updated /etc/resolv.conf, check there are entries
in there and that can you query them using nslookup/dig/host (whatever you
prefer).
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 15:09:50 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
Message-ID: <52790A3E.60305@gmx.com>
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On 05/11/13 14:39, Martin Moore wrote:
> That makes a lot of sense - it also explains why there is no entry for wlan
> in interfaces. I'll remove eth0 from interfaces and see what happens.
>
> DHCP server is fine - it's my Virgin Superhub that does various bits of kit!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Martin.
Yes that was useful information from Karl.
I was actually having connection issues with my Ethernet in another
distro quite a few weeks or so ago. What made everything more
confussing though was how I had Network Manager, but also another
program that by default was set up to control the connection. This
program would also for me not just show itself like network manager that
it was there as well being used whilst GNOME 3 was running, altough
sometimes I could get an icon etc for it showing there as well some how
in GNOME Shell. However since network manager was not being used it
would always say that the connections were unmanaged, until I set things up.
I tried too configure network manager graphically to begin with in GNOME
3, but it wouldn't quite switch things over to using network manager
properly instead of the other program, it would keep on not working at
all, or losing the Internet/Ethernet connection after a while. How
annoying, since I wanted to use it at the time! However after doing
what it said to do on a Wiki page for that distro and running a few
commands to get it using network manager by default basically instead of
the other program, problem solved. Wireless also needed to be set up
with network manager instead of the other program I think, or well for
it to show the available wireless networks how I wanted anyway.
Yes rather frustrating when the Internet doesn't just work properly I
think, and I assume you don't have the kind of issue I had, but still,
good luck with yours :).
Regards
Sebastian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karl Southern [mailto:karl@theangryangel.co.uk]
> Sent: 05 November 2013 14:27
> To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk; Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
>
> Assuming "Unmanaged" is being displayed in something that uses Network
> Manager (which tends to be the default GUI tools in gnome, kde, etc.), this
> means that it's not being managed by Network Manager. This means that there
> is an entry in /etc/network/interfaces for this interface.
> When there is Network Manager does not attempt to manage the device and
> classes it as unmanaged.
>
> If you want Network Manager to manage your device, which you probably should
> do on a non-server installation, remove the entry in /etc/network/interfaces
> and /etc/init.d/networking restart should bring everything into line on that
> front.
>
> Assuming your DHCP server hands out the DNS server option with sane values,
> the dhcp client should've updated /etc/resolv.conf, check there are entries
> in there and that can you query them using nslookup/dig/host (whatever you
> prefer).
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 16:09:13 -0000
From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
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Right, managed to get in via the back door and now running a managed eth0
and wlan0.
Windows remote desktop session is much faster now.
Cheers.
Martin.
-----Original Message-----
From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
[mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Sebastian
Sent: 05 November 2013 15:10
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk; Bristol and Bath Linux User Group; Sebastian
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
On 05/11/13 14:39, Martin Moore wrote:
> That makes a lot of sense - it also explains why there is no entry for
> wlan in interfaces. I'll remove eth0 from interfaces and see what happens.
>
> DHCP server is fine - it's my Virgin Superhub that does various bits of
kit!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Martin.
Yes that was useful information from Karl.
I was actually having connection issues with my Ethernet in another distro
quite a few weeks or so ago. What made everything more confussing though
was how I had Network Manager, but also another program that by default was
set up to control the connection. This program would also for me not just
show itself like network manager that it was there as well being used whilst
GNOME 3 was running, altough sometimes I could get an icon etc for it
showing there as well some how in GNOME Shell. However since network
manager was not being used it would always say that the connections were
unmanaged, until I set things up.
I tried too configure network manager graphically to begin with in GNOME 3,
but it wouldn't quite switch things over to using network manager properly
instead of the other program, it would keep on not working at all, or losing
the Internet/Ethernet connection after a while. How annoying, since I wanted
to use it at the time! However after doing what it said to do on a Wiki
page for that distro and running a few commands to get it using network
manager by default basically instead of the other program, problem solved.
Wireless also needed to be set up with network manager instead of the other
program I think, or well for it to show the available wireless networks how
I wanted anyway.
Yes rather frustrating when the Internet doesn't just work properly I think,
and I assume you don't have the kind of issue I had, but still, good luck
with yours :).
Regards
Sebastian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karl Southern [mailto:karl@theangryangel.co.uk]
> Sent: 05 November 2013 14:27
> To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk; Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
>
> Assuming "Unmanaged" is being displayed in something that uses Network
> Manager (which tends to be the default GUI tools in gnome, kde, etc.),
> this means that it's not being managed by Network Manager. This means
> that there is an entry in /etc/network/interfaces for this interface.
> When there is Network Manager does not attempt to manage the device
> and classes it as unmanaged.
>
> If you want Network Manager to manage your device, which you probably
> should do on a non-server installation, remove the entry in
> /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/init.d/networking restart should
> bring everything into line on that front.
>
> Assuming your DHCP server hands out the DNS server option with sane
> values, the dhcp client should've updated /etc/resolv.conf, check
> there are entries in there and that can you query them using
> nslookup/dig/host (whatever you prefer).
> -----
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> 11/04/13
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2. Re: Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy (Martin Moore)
3. Re: Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy (Sebastian)
4. Re: Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy (Martin Moore)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 14:26:42 +0000
From: Karl Southern <karl@theangryangel.co.uk>
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
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Assuming "Unmanaged" is being displayed in something that uses Network
Manager (which tends to be the default GUI tools in gnome, kde, etc.),
this means that it's not being managed by Network Manager. This means
that there is an entry in /etc/network/interfaces for this interface.
When there is Network Manager does not attempt to manage the device and
classes it as unmanaged.
If you want Network Manager to manage your device, which you probably
should do on a non-server installation, remove the entry in
/etc/network/interfaces and /etc/init.d/networking restart should bring
everything into line on that front.
Assuming your DHCP server hands out the DNS server option with sane
values, the dhcp client should've updated /etc/resolv.conf, check there
are entries in there and that can you query them using nslookup/dig/host
(whatever you prefer).
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 14:39:09 -0000
From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
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That makes a lot of sense - it also explains why there is no entry for wlan
in interfaces. I'll remove eth0 from interfaces and see what happens.
DHCP server is fine - it's my Virgin Superhub that does various bits of kit!
Cheers,
Martin.
-----Original Message-----
From: Karl Southern [mailto:karl@theangryangel.co.uk]
Sent: 05 November 2013 14:27
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk; Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
Assuming "Unmanaged" is being displayed in something that uses Network
Manager (which tends to be the default GUI tools in gnome, kde, etc.), this
means that it's not being managed by Network Manager. This means that there
is an entry in /etc/network/interfaces for this interface.
When there is Network Manager does not attempt to manage the device and
classes it as unmanaged.
If you want Network Manager to manage your device, which you probably should
do on a non-server installation, remove the entry in /etc/network/interfaces
and /etc/init.d/networking restart should bring everything into line on that
front.
Assuming your DHCP server hands out the DNS server option with sane values,
the dhcp client should've updated /etc/resolv.conf, check there are entries
in there and that can you query them using nslookup/dig/host (whatever you
prefer).
-----
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 15:09:50 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
Message-ID: <52790A3E.60305@gmx.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
On 05/11/13 14:39, Martin Moore wrote:
> That makes a lot of sense - it also explains why there is no entry for wlan
> in interfaces. I'll remove eth0 from interfaces and see what happens.
>
> DHCP server is fine - it's my Virgin Superhub that does various bits of kit!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Martin.
Yes that was useful information from Karl.
I was actually having connection issues with my Ethernet in another
distro quite a few weeks or so ago. What made everything more
confussing though was how I had Network Manager, but also another
program that by default was set up to control the connection. This
program would also for me not just show itself like network manager that
it was there as well being used whilst GNOME 3 was running, altough
sometimes I could get an icon etc for it showing there as well some how
in GNOME Shell. However since network manager was not being used it
would always say that the connections were unmanaged, until I set things up.
I tried too configure network manager graphically to begin with in GNOME
3, but it wouldn't quite switch things over to using network manager
properly instead of the other program, it would keep on not working at
all, or losing the Internet/Ethernet connection after a while. How
annoying, since I wanted to use it at the time! However after doing
what it said to do on a Wiki page for that distro and running a few
commands to get it using network manager by default basically instead of
the other program, problem solved. Wireless also needed to be set up
with network manager instead of the other program I think, or well for
it to show the available wireless networks how I wanted anyway.
Yes rather frustrating when the Internet doesn't just work properly I
think, and I assume you don't have the kind of issue I had, but still,
good luck with yours :).
Regards
Sebastian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karl Southern [mailto:karl@theangryangel.co.uk]
> Sent: 05 November 2013 14:27
> To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk; Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
>
> Assuming "Unmanaged" is being displayed in something that uses Network
> Manager (which tends to be the default GUI tools in gnome, kde, etc.), this
> means that it's not being managed by Network Manager. This means that there
> is an entry in /etc/network/interfaces for this interface.
> When there is Network Manager does not attempt to manage the device and
> classes it as unmanaged.
>
> If you want Network Manager to manage your device, which you probably should
> do on a non-server installation, remove the entry in /etc/network/interfaces
> and /etc/init.d/networking restart should bring everything into line on that
> front.
>
> Assuming your DHCP server hands out the DNS server option with sane values,
> the dhcp client should've updated /etc/resolv.conf, check there are entries
> in there and that can you query them using nslookup/dig/host (whatever you
> prefer).
> -----
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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 16:09:13 -0000
From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
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Right, managed to get in via the back door and now running a managed eth0
and wlan0.
Windows remote desktop session is much faster now.
Cheers.
Martin.
-----Original Message-----
From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
[mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Sebastian
Sent: 05 November 2013 15:10
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk; Bristol and Bath Linux User Group; Sebastian
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
On 05/11/13 14:39, Martin Moore wrote:
> That makes a lot of sense - it also explains why there is no entry for
> wlan in interfaces. I'll remove eth0 from interfaces and see what happens.
>
> DHCP server is fine - it's my Virgin Superhub that does various bits of
kit!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Martin.
Yes that was useful information from Karl.
I was actually having connection issues with my Ethernet in another distro
quite a few weeks or so ago. What made everything more confussing though
was how I had Network Manager, but also another program that by default was
set up to control the connection. This program would also for me not just
show itself like network manager that it was there as well being used whilst
GNOME 3 was running, altough sometimes I could get an icon etc for it
showing there as well some how in GNOME Shell. However since network
manager was not being used it would always say that the connections were
unmanaged, until I set things up.
I tried too configure network manager graphically to begin with in GNOME 3,
but it wouldn't quite switch things over to using network manager properly
instead of the other program, it would keep on not working at all, or losing
the Internet/Ethernet connection after a while. How annoying, since I wanted
to use it at the time! However after doing what it said to do on a Wiki
page for that distro and running a few commands to get it using network
manager by default basically instead of the other program, problem solved.
Wireless also needed to be set up with network manager instead of the other
program I think, or well for it to show the available wireless networks how
I wanted anyway.
Yes rather frustrating when the Internet doesn't just work properly I think,
and I assume you don't have the kind of issue I had, but still, good luck
with yours :).
Regards
Sebastian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karl Southern [mailto:karl@theangryangel.co.uk]
> Sent: 05 November 2013 14:27
> To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk; Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
>
> Assuming "Unmanaged" is being displayed in something that uses Network
> Manager (which tends to be the default GUI tools in gnome, kde, etc.),
> this means that it's not being managed by Network Manager. This means
> that there is an entry in /etc/network/interfaces for this interface.
> When there is Network Manager does not attempt to manage the device
> and classes it as unmanaged.
>
> If you want Network Manager to manage your device, which you probably
> should do on a non-server installation, remove the entry in
> /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/init.d/networking restart should
> bring everything into line on that front.
>
> Assuming your DHCP server hands out the DNS server option with sane
> values, the dhcp client should've updated /etc/resolv.conf, check
> there are entries in there and that can you query them using
> nslookup/dig/host (whatever you prefer).
> -----
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3615/6808 - Release Date:
> 11/04/13
>
>
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2. Re: Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy (jamie)
3. Re: Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy (Martin Moore)
4. Re: Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy (nick robinson)
5. Re: Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy (Martin Moore)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 12:43:08 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
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On 05/11/13 11:32, Martin Moore wrote:
> I've got a new Debian box. It didn't have the Realtek drivers when installed
> so used the WLan. When it was running I installed the firmware-realtek pkg.
>
> Trouble is, it no workee!
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
> Interfaces:
>
> # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
> # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
>
> # The loopback network interface
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
>
> auto eth0
> allow-hotplug eth0
> iface eth0 inet dhcp
>
>
> Restarted Eth0:
>
> $:/etc/network$ sudo ifdown eth0
> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.2.2
> Copyright 2004-2011 Internet Systems Consortium.
> All rights reserved.
> For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
>
> Listening on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on Socket/fallback
> martin@Wheezy:/etc/network$ sudo ifup eth0
> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.2.2
> Copyright 2004-2011 Internet Systems Consortium.
> All rights reserved.
> For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
>
> Listening on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on Socket/fallback
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 20
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12
> No DHCPOFFERS received.
> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
>
I am no expert (and dont use Debian) but what is supplying your Lan
address and is it configured OK!?
Try another box if you have one!
I assume the driver is loaded OK (lsmod)?
Dmesg may be worth a look in case there are errors.
Hope that helps in the absence of a real expert!
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 13:18:29 +0000
From: jamie <jamie@viraladnetwork.net>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
Message-ID: <1383657509.22228.2.camel@jamie-Ideapad-Z570>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 12:00 +0000, bristol-request@mailman.lug.org.uk
wrote:
> From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
> To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
> I've got a new Debian box. It didn't have the Realtek drivers when installed
> so used the WLan. When it was running I installed the firmware-realtek pkg.
>
> Trouble is, it no workee!
...
>
> $:/etc/network$ sudo ifdown eth0
> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.2.2
> Copyright 2004-2011 Internet Systems Consortium.
> All rights reserved.
> For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
>
> Listening on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on Socket/fallback
> martin@Wheezy:/etc/network$ sudo ifup eth0
> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.2.2
> Copyright 2004-2011 Internet Systems Consortium.
> All rights reserved.
> For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
>
> Listening on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on Socket/fallback
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 20
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12
> No DHCPOFFERS received.
> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
That's working fine. You just don't have a dhcp server on your LAN
------------------------------
Message: 3
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 13:32:52 -0000
From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
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Muppet time!!
I thought the cable was connected - and it was - sort of... Blue cable into
the PC, blue cable into the router. Different blue cables hidden behind the
desk, both not connected at the other end.
Do I get a prize?
Still got an issue though - the adapter is showing as 'unmanaged' in the
desktop (may be irrelevant), and I don't think has DNS as I can't ping a
domain but I can ping an ip.
Thoughts?
Martin.
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From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
[mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of jamie
Sent: 05 November 2013 13:18
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 12:00 +0000, bristol-request@mailman.lug.org.uk
wrote:
> From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
> To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
> I've got a new Debian box. It didn't have the Realtek drivers when
> installed so used the WLan. When it was running I installed the
firmware-realtek pkg.
>
> Trouble is, it no workee!
...
>
> $:/etc/network$ sudo ifdown eth0
> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.2.2 Copyright 2004-2011
> Internet Systems Consortium.
> All rights reserved.
> For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
>
> Listening on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on Socket/fallback
> martin@Wheezy:/etc/network$ sudo ifup eth0 Internet Systems Consortium
> DHCP Client 4.2.2 Copyright 2004-2011 Internet Systems Consortium.
> All rights reserved.
> For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
>
> Listening on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on Socket/fallback
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 20
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12 No
> DHCPOFFERS received.
> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
That's working fine. You just don't have a dhcp server on your LAN
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 13:55:47 +0000
From: nick robinson <nick@njrobinson.net>
To: Martin <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>, Bristol and Bath Linux User
Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
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Try
cat /etc/resolv.conf
and see if there is a nameserver added there
On 5 November 2013 13:32, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk> wrote:
> Muppet time!!
>
> I thought the cable was connected - and it was - sort of... Blue cable into
> the PC, blue cable into the router. Different blue cables hidden behind the
> desk, both not connected at the other end.
>
> Do I get a prize?
>
> Still got an issue though - the adapter is showing as 'unmanaged' in the
> desktop (may be irrelevant), and I don't think has DNS as I can't ping a
> domain but I can ping an ip.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> Martin.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
> [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of jamie
> Sent: 05 November 2013 13:18
> To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
>
> On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 12:00 +0000, bristol-request@mailman.lug.org.uk
> wrote:
>
> > From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
> > To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > Subject: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
>
> > I've got a new Debian box. It didn't have the Realtek drivers when
> > installed so used the WLan. When it was running I installed the
> firmware-realtek pkg.
> >
> > Trouble is, it no workee!
> ...
> >
> > $:/etc/network$ sudo ifdown eth0
> > Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.2.2 Copyright 2004-2011
> > Internet Systems Consortium.
> > All rights reserved.
> > For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
> >
> > Listening on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> > Sending on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> > Sending on Socket/fallback
> > martin@Wheezy:/etc/network$ sudo ifup eth0 Internet Systems Consortium
> > DHCP Client 4.2.2 Copyright 2004-2011 Internet Systems Consortium.
> > All rights reserved.
> > For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
> >
> > Listening on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> > Sending on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> > Sending on Socket/fallback
> > DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
> > DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
> > DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15
> > DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 20
> > DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12 No
> > DHCPOFFERS received.
> > No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
>
> That's working fine. You just don't have a dhcp server on your LAN
>
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 14:18:41 -0000
From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: "'nick robinson'" <nick@njrobinson.net>, "'Bristol and Bath Linux
User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
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I've added dns to interfaces. I seem to have killed remote access now
though, so will have to wait til home time!!
From: nick robinson [mailto:nick@njrobinson.net]
Sent: 05 November 2013 13:56
To: Martin; Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
Try
cat /etc/resolv.conf
and see if there is a nameserver added there
On 5 November 2013 13:32, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk> wrote:
Muppet time!!
I thought the cable was connected - and it was - sort of... Blue cable into
the PC, blue cable into the router. Different blue cables hidden behind the
desk, both not connected at the other end.
Do I get a prize?
Still got an issue though - the adapter is showing as 'unmanaged' in the
desktop (may be irrelevant), and I don't think has DNS as I can't ping a
domain but I can ping an ip.
Thoughts?
Martin.
-----Original Message-----
From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
[mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of jamie
Sent: 05 November 2013 13:18
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 12:00 +0000, bristol-request@mailman.lug.org.uk
wrote:
> From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
> To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
> I've got a new Debian box. It didn't have the Realtek drivers when
> installed so used the WLan. When it was running I installed the
firmware-realtek pkg.
>
> Trouble is, it no workee!
...
>
> $:/etc/network$ sudo ifdown eth0
> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.2.2 Copyright 2004-2011
> Internet Systems Consortium.
> All rights reserved.
> For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
>
> Listening on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on Socket/fallback
> martin@Wheezy:/etc/network$ sudo ifup eth0 Internet Systems Consortium
> DHCP Client 4.2.2 Copyright 2004-2011 Internet Systems Consortium.
> All rights reserved.
> For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
>
> Listening on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on Socket/fallback
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 20
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12 No
> DHCPOFFERS received.
> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
That's working fine. You just don't have a dhcp server on your LAN
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 12:43:08 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: martinm@it-helps.co.uk, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
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On 05/11/13 11:32, Martin Moore wrote:
> I've got a new Debian box. It didn't have the Realtek drivers when installed
> so used the WLan. When it was running I installed the firmware-realtek pkg.
>
> Trouble is, it no workee!
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
> Interfaces:
>
> # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
> # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
>
> # The loopback network interface
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
>
> auto eth0
> allow-hotplug eth0
> iface eth0 inet dhcp
>
>
> Restarted Eth0:
>
> $:/etc/network$ sudo ifdown eth0
> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.2.2
> Copyright 2004-2011 Internet Systems Consortium.
> All rights reserved.
> For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
>
> Listening on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on Socket/fallback
> martin@Wheezy:/etc/network$ sudo ifup eth0
> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.2.2
> Copyright 2004-2011 Internet Systems Consortium.
> All rights reserved.
> For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
>
> Listening on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on Socket/fallback
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 20
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12
> No DHCPOFFERS received.
> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
>
I am no expert (and dont use Debian) but what is supplying your Lan
address and is it configured OK!?
Try another box if you have one!
I assume the driver is loaded OK (lsmod)?
Dmesg may be worth a look in case there are errors.
Hope that helps in the absence of a real expert!
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 13:18:29 +0000
From: jamie <jamie@viraladnetwork.net>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
Message-ID: <1383657509.22228.2.camel@jamie-Ideapad-Z570>
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On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 12:00 +0000, bristol-request@mailman.lug.org.uk
wrote:
> From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
> To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
> I've got a new Debian box. It didn't have the Realtek drivers when installed
> so used the WLan. When it was running I installed the firmware-realtek pkg.
>
> Trouble is, it no workee!
...
>
> $:/etc/network$ sudo ifdown eth0
> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.2.2
> Copyright 2004-2011 Internet Systems Consortium.
> All rights reserved.
> For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
>
> Listening on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on Socket/fallback
> martin@Wheezy:/etc/network$ sudo ifup eth0
> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.2.2
> Copyright 2004-2011 Internet Systems Consortium.
> All rights reserved.
> For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
>
> Listening on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on Socket/fallback
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 20
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12
> No DHCPOFFERS received.
> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
That's working fine. You just don't have a dhcp server on your LAN
------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 13:32:52 -0000
From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
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Muppet time!!
I thought the cable was connected - and it was - sort of... Blue cable into
the PC, blue cable into the router. Different blue cables hidden behind the
desk, both not connected at the other end.
Do I get a prize?
Still got an issue though - the adapter is showing as 'unmanaged' in the
desktop (may be irrelevant), and I don't think has DNS as I can't ping a
domain but I can ping an ip.
Thoughts?
Martin.
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From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
[mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of jamie
Sent: 05 November 2013 13:18
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 12:00 +0000, bristol-request@mailman.lug.org.uk
wrote:
> From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
> To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
> I've got a new Debian box. It didn't have the Realtek drivers when
> installed so used the WLan. When it was running I installed the
firmware-realtek pkg.
>
> Trouble is, it no workee!
...
>
> $:/etc/network$ sudo ifdown eth0
> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.2.2 Copyright 2004-2011
> Internet Systems Consortium.
> All rights reserved.
> For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
>
> Listening on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on Socket/fallback
> martin@Wheezy:/etc/network$ sudo ifup eth0 Internet Systems Consortium
> DHCP Client 4.2.2 Copyright 2004-2011 Internet Systems Consortium.
> All rights reserved.
> For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
>
> Listening on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on Socket/fallback
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 20
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12 No
> DHCPOFFERS received.
> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
That's working fine. You just don't have a dhcp server on your LAN
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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 13:55:47 +0000
From: nick robinson <nick@njrobinson.net>
To: Martin <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>, Bristol and Bath Linux User
Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
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Try
cat /etc/resolv.conf
and see if there is a nameserver added there
On 5 November 2013 13:32, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk> wrote:
> Muppet time!!
>
> I thought the cable was connected - and it was - sort of... Blue cable into
> the PC, blue cable into the router. Different blue cables hidden behind the
> desk, both not connected at the other end.
>
> Do I get a prize?
>
> Still got an issue though - the adapter is showing as 'unmanaged' in the
> desktop (may be irrelevant), and I don't think has DNS as I can't ping a
> domain but I can ping an ip.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> Martin.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
> [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of jamie
> Sent: 05 November 2013 13:18
> To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
>
> On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 12:00 +0000, bristol-request@mailman.lug.org.uk
> wrote:
>
> > From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
> > To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > Subject: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
>
> > I've got a new Debian box. It didn't have the Realtek drivers when
> > installed so used the WLan. When it was running I installed the
> firmware-realtek pkg.
> >
> > Trouble is, it no workee!
> ...
> >
> > $:/etc/network$ sudo ifdown eth0
> > Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.2.2 Copyright 2004-2011
> > Internet Systems Consortium.
> > All rights reserved.
> > For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
> >
> > Listening on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> > Sending on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> > Sending on Socket/fallback
> > martin@Wheezy:/etc/network$ sudo ifup eth0 Internet Systems Consortium
> > DHCP Client 4.2.2 Copyright 2004-2011 Internet Systems Consortium.
> > All rights reserved.
> > For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
> >
> > Listening on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> > Sending on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> > Sending on Socket/fallback
> > DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
> > DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
> > DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15
> > DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 20
> > DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12 No
> > DHCPOFFERS received.
> > No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
>
> That's working fine. You just don't have a dhcp server on your LAN
>
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 14:18:41 -0000
From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
To: "'nick robinson'" <nick@njrobinson.net>, "'Bristol and Bath Linux
User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
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I've added dns to interfaces. I seem to have killed remote access now
though, so will have to wait til home time!!
From: nick robinson [mailto:nick@njrobinson.net]
Sent: 05 November 2013 13:56
To: Martin; Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
Try
cat /etc/resolv.conf
and see if there is a nameserver added there
On 5 November 2013 13:32, Martin Moore <martinm@it-helps.co.uk> wrote:
Muppet time!!
I thought the cable was connected - and it was - sort of... Blue cable into
the PC, blue cable into the router. Different blue cables hidden behind the
desk, both not connected at the other end.
Do I get a prize?
Still got an issue though - the adapter is showing as 'unmanaged' in the
desktop (may be irrelevant), and I don't think has DNS as I can't ping a
domain but I can ping an ip.
Thoughts?
Martin.
-----Original Message-----
From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk
[mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of jamie
Sent: 05 November 2013 13:18
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 12:00 +0000, bristol-request@mailman.lug.org.uk
wrote:
> From: "Martin Moore" <martinm@it-helps.co.uk>
> To: "'Bristol and Bath Linux User Group'" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: [bristol] Eth0 not working on Debian Wheezy
> I've got a new Debian box. It didn't have the Realtek drivers when
> installed so used the WLan. When it was running I installed the
firmware-realtek pkg.
>
> Trouble is, it no workee!
...
>
> $:/etc/network$ sudo ifdown eth0
> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.2.2 Copyright 2004-2011
> Internet Systems Consortium.
> All rights reserved.
> For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
>
> Listening on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on Socket/fallback
> martin@Wheezy:/etc/network$ sudo ifup eth0 Internet Systems Consortium
> DHCP Client 4.2.2 Copyright 2004-2011 Internet Systems Consortium.
> All rights reserved.
> For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
>
> Listening on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on LPF/eth0/8c:89:a5:a5:4f:60
> Sending on Socket/fallback
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 20
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12 No
> DHCPOFFERS received.
> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
That's working fine. You just don't have a dhcp server on your LAN
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