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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Unable VNC into a Rpi Desktop (AJ)
2. Re: keyboard problem (jpff)
3. Re: Unable VNC into a Rpi Desktop (Peter Hemmings)
4. Re: Unable VNC into a Rpi Desktop (Peter Hemmings)
5. Re: Unable VNC into a Rpi Desktop (Sebastian)
6. Re: Unable VNC into a Rpi Desktop (Sebastian)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 14:49:03 +0000
From: AJ <lists@g7kna.co.uk>
To: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>, Bristol and Bath
Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Unable VNC into a Rpi Desktop
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Peter,
Have you got a VNC server running on the Pi?
Regards
Andy
--
Andy Jenner
Q: What goes; "Pieces of seven, pieces of seven"?
A: A parroty error
On 1 January 2017 at 18:40, Peter Hemmings via Bristol
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Happy New Year to you all.
>
> I have been attempting to see my pi desktop via vnc and realize I am a bit
> short of some "Basic" knowledge!
>
> The simple question is:
>
> What exactly is VNC, is it the overriding general concept or is vnc just
> one of many protocols like RDP?
>
> The reason I ask is because I can ssh from my PC/laptop/Android to the pi
> CLI OK. I can also see the pi desktop via RDP viewer (from fedora 24) BUT I
> cannot connect using x11vnc on the pi.
>
> I have configured a password (as user) it appears to not have it registered.
> I have also tried various x11vnc commands to find a password but it still
> refuses to start.
>
> FYI I am using the latest Raspian OS. Perhaps the problem is I have got
> remains of an old vnc config that is causing this problem.
>
> Unfortunately I cannot show any outputs as I cannot find how I can cut and
> paste from a remote desktop screen to this PC. If anyone has done this
> could you please let me know?
>
> Thanks
>
> Regards
>
>
> --
> Peter H
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 15:32:53 +0000 (GMT)
From: jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] keyboard problem
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1701021528050.9468@snout.codemist.co.uk>
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Thank you for all the information. unfortunately for some advice this is a
Z30-A-106 laptop and to remove the keyboard requires totally taking the
machine apart. I found a video doing it in only 30 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XTxhEjBbh8
which looks really scarey for someone as hardware incompetent as I am.
Will investigate a laptop shop.
==John ff
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 16:07:07 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: AJ <lists@g7kna.co.uk>, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Unable VNC into a Rpi Desktop
Message-ID: <c4db668b-01a8-7b23-314b-285c84c56290@virginmedia.com>
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Hi,
On 02/01/17 14:49, AJ via Bristol wrote:
> Peter,
>
> Have you got a VNC server running on the Pi?
Nope, because it does not accept the password.
Checked this by using "Fing" app on my Android phone.
It does have a xrdp service on port 3389 that works but no 5900 01 02 etc.
>
> Regards
>
> Andy
> --
> Andy Jenner
> Q: What goes; "Pieces of seven, pieces of seven"?
> A: A parroty error
>
>
> On 1 January 2017 at 18:40, Peter Hemmings via Bristol
> <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Happy New Year to you all.
>>
>> I have been attempting to see my pi desktop via vnc and realize I am a bit
>> short of some "Basic" knowledge!
>>
>> The simple question is:
>>
>> What exactly is VNC, is it the overriding general concept or is vnc just
>> one of many protocols like RDP?
>>
>> The reason I ask is because I can ssh from my PC/laptop/Android to the pi
>> CLI OK. I can also see the pi desktop via RDP viewer (from fedora 24) BUT I
>> cannot connect using x11vnc on the pi.
>>
>> I have configured a password (as user) it appears to not have it registered.
>> I have also tried various x11vnc commands to find a password but it still
>> refuses to start.
>>
>> FYI I am using the latest Raspian OS. Perhaps the problem is I have got
>> remains of an old vnc config that is causing this problem.
>>
>> Unfortunately I cannot show any outputs as I cannot find how I can cut and
>> paste from a remote desktop screen to this PC. If anyone has done this
>> could you please let me know?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> --
>> Peter H
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bristol mailing list
>> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
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Regards
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Peter H
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 17:35:18 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peternsomerset@virginmedia.com>
To: BBLUG <Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Cc: AJ <lists@g7kna.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Unable VNC into a Rpi Desktop
Message-ID: <b95b89bf-4c92-df91-d205-2d64f06139db@virginmedia.com>
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Andy,
On 02/01/17 16:25, AJ wrote:
> Peter,
>
> Don't know how much of this you are familiar with so if I cover things
> you know I apologise, I am not trying to teach granny, or anyone else
> for that matter, how to suck eggs.
OK
>
> VNC has two components:
> 1. A VNC server running on the target machine that is to be
> controlled, in this case your Pi
> 2. A VNC client running on the machine you are operating usually a
> tablet or other portable device
>
> You need to configure the server on the target machine and in doing so
> will configure ports it listens on and the password to access the
> server.
>
> Once the server is running on the target machine (Pi) you should be
> able to connect to it by starting the VNC client on whatever device
> you want to control the Pi from and pointing it at the IP address (or
> hostname if your LAN supports that) of your Pi. The server on the Pi
> will then prompt for the password which is entered and then the Pi
> desktop should be seen within the VNC window.
I did know most of the above but was reassurance that most of what I am
doing is correct!
>
> Have a look here:
>
> https://www.realvnc.com/docs/raspberry-pi.html
That is a bit better than what I was using!
I originally was going to use either tightvnc or realvnc (cannot
remember which) and read that I could not fully control the desktop and
was advised to use x11vnc server.
I went through a procedure that "greyed out" the vnc option in rasp
config, which is still "greyed out".
If I log in via rdp I can see its still greyed out.
If I ssh into a CLI and type:
sudo systemctl enable vncserver-x11-serviced.service
it seem to work without complaining but if I do a "Status" I get errors
like:
loaded enabled
Active Failed (result: start limit) ...... Maind PID: 589 (code=exited,
status=203/EXEC)
and
vncserver-x11-serviced.service start request repeated too quickly,
refusing to start.
Failed to start VNV Server in Service Mode Daemon.
(sorry had to type the above as I cannot copy/paste from remote viewer
window)
I think I will start with a new raspian install to ensure any old config
settings are not the cause of the problem!
BTW is tightvnc a fully functioning server or is it a cut down version?
>
> I used to use something similar to remotely administer my fathers
> Windows PC in Backwell from my Linux box (or laptop) in Nailsea.
>
> I had previously installed TightVNC server on his desktop but didn't
> have it running as a service. His PC had a static IP on his LAN and
> the router was configured to port forward the VNC ports, the numbers
> of which I can't remember off hand, directly to his PC. To overcome
> the fact that his external IP address was dynamic I used DynDNS to
> provide a constant connection point on the web.
>
> When he had problems he would 'phone me and I would instruct him how
> to start the VNC server and then connect to it remotely from home and
> look at whatever issue he had. We would usually chat over SKYPE
> (audio only as VNC with video is painfull) or Google Talk as I was
> showing him how to do things by talking him through the process as I
> clicked on things on his desktop.
>
> Regards
>
> Andy
> --
> Andy Jenner
> Q: What goes; "Pieces of seven, pieces of seven"?
> A: A parroty error
Thanks
--
Peter H
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2017 18:19:53 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Unable VNC into a Rpi Desktop
Message-ID: <0cd703bd-b640-49e2-a055-6d64690e2500@gmx.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Hi Peter
If going to use VNC Virtual Network Connection, you will indeed need a
working VNC server on the Rassbery Pi, then a client to connect to it on
your other device. Their is a default port for VNC from what I remember,
but you should be able to set it to anything you want or nearly I belive,
and be that just in a router for the whole Internet or a local area
network. I belive for xrdp you can change the port yourself, but really
RDP Remote Desktop Protocoll is the Microsoft one. There's also FreeNX
for example, but not used that one before myself. SSH is ok if you just
want to do the terminal, but yes anything graphical going to need something
such as VNC.
Hope this helps.
New Years
Regards
Sebastian
On Monday, 2 January 2017 16:07:07 GMT, Peter Hemmings via Bristol
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 02/01/17 14:49, AJ via Bristol wrote:
>> Peter,
>>
>> Have you got a VNC server running on the Pi?
>
> Nope, because it does not accept the password.
> Checked this by using "Fing" app on my Android phone.
> It does have a xrdp service on port 3389 that works but no 5900 01 02 etc.
>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Andy
>> --
>> Andy Jenner
>> Q: What goes; "Pieces of seven, pieces of seven"?
>> A: A parroty error
>>
>>
>> On 1 January 2017 at 18:40, Peter Hemmings via Bristol
>> <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Happy New Year to you all.
>>>
>>> I have been attempting to see my pi desktop via vnc and
>>> realize I am a bit
>>> short of some "Basic" knowledge!
>>>
>>> The simple question is:
>>>
>>> What exactly is VNC, is it the overriding general concept or is vnc just
>>> one of many protocols like RDP?
>>>
>>> The reason I ask is because I can ssh from my PC/laptop/Android to the pi
>>> CLI OK. I can also see the pi desktop via RDP viewer (from
>>> fedora 24) BUT I
>>> cannot connect using x11vnc on the pi.
>>>
>>> I have configured a password (as user) it appears to not have
>>> it registered.
>>> I have also tried various x11vnc commands to find a password but it still
>>> refuses to start.
>>>
>>> FYI I am using the latest Raspian OS. Perhaps the problem is I have got
>>> remains of an old vnc config that is causing this problem.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately I cannot show any outputs as I cannot find how
>>> I can cut and
>>> paste from a remote desktop screen to this PC. If anyone has done this
>>> could you please let me know?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Peter H
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Bristol mailing list
>>> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
>>
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>
> Regards
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2017 18:25:24 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Unable VNC into a Rpi Desktop
Message-ID: <3fc7d892-8eab-4e70-8f17-f4dd161550eb@gmx.com>
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Also you can only use one graphical one at once as far as I know, can't use
more than one I belive. However SSH can be used with VNC to make it more
secure over the Internet for example. Also to be clear you don't need to
VNC etc, over the Internet to connect to your Rassbery Pi if the client is
near and you do it over the LAN, but doing so over the Internet would be a
possible option. Bearing that in mind make sure you know what any open
ports for remote connecting, are being used for, are they ports being
opended up for the whole Internet, or just to anything on your LAN. On a
LAN would be using a internal ip address to connect as well, via the
Internet it would be your external ip address.
On Monday, 2 January 2017 18:19:53 GMT, Sebastian via Bristol
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi Peter
>
> If going to use VNC Virtual Network Connection, you will indeed need a
> working VNC server on the Rassbery Pi, then a client to connect to it on
> your other device. Their is a default port for VNC from what I remember,
> but you should be able to set it to anything you want or nearly I belive,
> and be that just in a router for the whole Internet or a local area
> network. I belive for xrdp you can change the port yourself, but really
> RDP Remote Desktop Protocoll is the Microsoft one. There's also FreeNX
> for example, but not used that one before myself. SSH is ok if you just
> want to do the terminal, but yes anything graphical going to need something
> such as VNC.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> New Years
>
> Regards
>
> Sebastian
>
> On Monday, 2 January 2017 16:07:07 GMT, Peter Hemmings via Bristol
> <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 02/01/17 14:49, AJ via Bristol wrote:
>>> Peter,
>>>
>>> Have you got a VNC server running on the Pi?
>>
>> Nope, because it does not accept the password.
>> Checked this by using "Fing" app on my Android phone.
>> It does have a xrdp service on port 3389 that works but no 5900 01 02 etc.
>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Andy
>>> --
>>> Andy Jenner
>>> Q: What goes; "Pieces of seven, pieces of seven"?
>>> A: A parroty error
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 January 2017 at 18:40, Peter Hemmings via Bristol
>>> <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Happy New Year to you all.
>>>>
>>>> I have been attempting to see my pi desktop via vnc and
>>>> realize I am a bit
>>>> short of some "Basic" knowledge!
>>>>
>>>> The simple question is:
>>>>
>>>> What exactly is VNC, is it the overriding general concept
>>>> or is vnc just
>>>> one of many protocols like RDP?
>>>>
>>>> The reason I ask is because I can ssh from my
>>>> PC/laptop/Android to the pi
>>>> CLI OK. I can also see the pi desktop via RDP viewer (from
>>>> fedora 24) BUT I
>>>> cannot connect using x11vnc on the pi.
>>>>
>>>> I have configured a password (as user) it appears to not have
>>>> it registered.
>>>> I have also tried various x11vnc commands to find a password
>>>> but it still
>>>> refuses to start.
>>>>
>>>> FYI I am using the latest Raspian OS. Perhaps the problem is I have got
>>>> remains of an old vnc config that is causing this problem.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately I cannot show any outputs as I cannot find how
>>>> I can cut and
>>>> paste from a remote desktop screen to this PC. If anyone has done this
>>>> could you please let me know?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Peter H
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Bristol mailing list
>>>> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
>>>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>> Regards
>
>
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