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Today's Topics:

1. UEFI HP Laptop Bootup Question (Sebastian)
2. LUG Meeting Tommorow 25/07/15 (Sebastian)
3. Re: UEFI HP Laptop Bootup Question (Steve King)
4. Re: LUG Meeting Tommorow 25/07/15 (Paul Hazelden)
5. Re: UEFI HP Laptop Bootup Question (Sebastian)
6. SSD alignment (James Womack)

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:55:08 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
"sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com" <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: [bristol] UEFI HP Laptop Bootup Question
Message-ID: <19ADC020-1466-418A-8D40-376E481FE81B@gmx.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi

There were some emails to this to do with putting Linux distros on a new UEFI of mine. Since the last LUG meeting (since I been doing other things etc), I still have a test install of Ubuntu 15.04. The plan is to multi boot the laptop with Windows and more than one Linux distro.

My test install of Ubuntu can be booted up, but to begin with have to hold down esc for long enough or Windows will get booted up instead. Ubuntu points to the Windows UEFI I think, and both are installed in UEFI mode it seems, and apparently not meant to try and mix UEFI and legacy mode OS installs. Saying that legacy mode has not been enabled anyway, but yes secure boot has been disabled.

When esc is held down for long enough the Startup Menu comes up, with options for System Information, System Diagnostics, System Recovery, and importantly this is also the menu with options for a Boot Device Options. On this particular laptop the BIOS Setup seems quite limited really in what it can actually do, for example according to the Ubuntu UEFI page was apparently meant to disable fast boot, but I don't even get options for things like that, on that HP Pavilion x360 convertible.

Once F9 has been selected as in the boot options, the boot manager comes up with options for the Windows OS Boot Manager (UEFI) and the Ubuntu OS Boot Manager (UEFi) and a Boot From EFI File option. If the Windows option is selected it loads up the HP logo screen and Windows then boots up. If the Ubuntu option is selected it loads up Grub and as would expected from there can load up Ubuntu or even Windows. However the big question is: Can I get it to come up with Grub first when the computer is turned on or rebooted, and then to be used to load up Linux or Windows, and if so how? Someone at the LUG last time thought it should be able to be done, and I agree, but how? Or is this just an example of newer is not always better? I mean on a old BIOS computer this would have generally been quite easy to do, to have Grub coming up first, but yes it's a different ball game with UEFI.

Thanks in advanced for any help.

Regards

Sebastian

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 15:36:46 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
"sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com" <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: [bristol] LUG Meeting Tommorow 25/07/15
Message-ID: <5040F83F-6AB6-4070-BC62-F4170870CB3E@gmx.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi

It's another LUG meeting tomorrow at our usual Knights Templar Pub in Temple Quay near Temple Meads Train Station and Broadmead.

Who is intending on being there? I'll probably be there about 2:30 or about 3pm.

For anyone that does not know the meeting is very informal, with an opportunity to show or give away interesting Linux/tech related things even if wanting to, or just come along for a chat etc. I have another device that runs Linux :), that I can show tomorrow. We usually sit on the lower level at the back of the pub when entering it in the left hand side corner with the plugs, or near there instead if someone is already there. People turn up and leave when they decide to, with most attendees usually being there about 2pm, and leaving between 4pm and 5:30pm.

Regards

Sebastian

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 16:40:49 +0100
From: "Steve King" <debian@invux.com>
To: "Bristol and Bath Linux User Group" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] UEFI HP Laptop Bootup Question
Message-ID:
<2024bbde88f6e0d01cb6f3fe5c139510.squirrel@dazzle.invux.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

> I mean on a old BIOS computer this would have generally been quite easy
> to do, to have Grub coming up first, but yes it's a different ball game
> with UEFI.
>

You need to install the package efibootmgr package and you can use this to
select the default boot ordering from Linux.

There is a windows command line utility that does the same kind of thing,
but windows.

My EFI BIOS also allows you to change the default, but I wouldn't be
surprised if that was optional for the BIOS to support changing it.

--
Steve

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 16:43:58 +0100
From: Paul Hazelden <tenuki57@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Cc: "sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com" <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LUG Meeting Tommorow 25/07/15
Message-ID:
<CALag5sKFhL7GEWD+aMF2J3yvFUwDhXq9OH9Tg8du+mPo4iYZhQ@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I'm planning to be with you this month.

All the best,

Paul.

On 24 July 2015 at 15:36, Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> It's another LUG meeting tomorrow at our usual Knights Templar Pub in
> Temple Quay near Temple Meads Train Station and Broadmead.
>
> Who is intending on being there? I'll probably be there about 2:30 or
> about 3pm.
>
> For anyone that does not know the meeting is very informal, with an
> opportunity to show or give away interesting Linux/tech related things even
> if wanting to, or just come along for a chat etc. I have another device
> that runs Linux :), that I can show tomorrow. We usually sit on the lower
> level at the back of the pub when entering it in the left hand side corner
> with the plugs, or near there instead if someone is already there. People
> turn up and leave when they decide to, with most attendees usually being
> there about 2pm, and leaving between 4pm and 5:30pm.
>
> Regards
>
> Sebastian
> _______________________________________________
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> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 17:49:06 +0100
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: "debian@invux.com" <debian@invux.com>, Bristol and Bath Linux User
Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>, "sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com"
<sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: [bristol] UEFI HP Laptop Bootup Question
Message-ID: <7820AC9E-BAFB-4CF2-812D-761DF8F9FDD8@gmx.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

> On 24 Jul 2015, at 16:40, "Steve King" <debian@invux.com> wrote:
>
>
>> I mean on a old BIOS computer this would have generally been quite easy
>> to do, to have Grub coming up first, but yes it's a different ball game
>> with UEFI.
>
> You need to install the package efibootmgr package and you can use this to
> select the default boot ordering from Linux.
Ok thanks :) I'll look into that, and I assume the other two distros I would like psyichal installs of have the same package or something similar, in the repos at least. I'll probably do a progress update on this list, next week or something like that.
>
> There is a windows command line utility that does the same kind of thing,
> but windows.
>
> My EFI BIOS also allows you to change the default, but I wouldn't be
> surprised if that was optional for the BIOS to support changing it.
>
> --
> Steve
>
>
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 23:09:31 +0100
From: James Womack <james.c.womack@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] SSD alignment
Message-ID: <55B2B79B.909@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi,

Does anyone have a feel for whether SSD alignment is something that
needs careful attention with modern SSDs and a recent version of Linux?

The last time I dealt with partitioning an SSD was several years ago,
and I remember needing to be careful about aligning the partitions along
4KiB boundaries, and that aligning along erase block size boundaries was
also important. I had to do this manually at the time, as the various
tools had not been updated to support SSDs and the defaults would give
incorrect alignment.

Now I have a very new Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD which I want to
partition, so I can install Ubuntu on it. I have read conflicting
reports online about whether alignment is something you still need to
bother with. The received wisdom seems to be that you should just align
partitions to 1 MiB boundaries, and that you probably don't need to
worry anyway since most modern partitioning tools do this anyway.

As far as I can tell, the erase block size should not matter for
partition alignment (I don't understand why it would, anyway, since for
SSDs it is so much larger than the sector size).

If anyone has any experience or thoughts on this, I would be interested
to hear!

Thanks,
James

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james.c.womack@gmail.com
http://jcwomack.uk

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Bristol Digest, Vol 610, Issue 1

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Samba - cannot find file after moving it into shared
directory (Peter Hemmings)
2. 5.25" floppy disks (jpff)
3. Re: Linux Workstation Laptop (Amias Channer)
4. Samba nmb (was Samba - cannot find file ) (Peter Hemmings)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 15:49:05 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Samba - cannot find file after moving it into
shared directory
Message-ID: <55ABB8E1.4050200@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

On 19/07/15 12:46, Alex Butcher wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jul 2015, Peter Hemmings wrote:
>
>> I know many on the list prefer not to run SElinux, but I prefer to
>> leave it in permissive mode so I can see alerts without it stopping
>> things working. As I had not touched it since a clean Fedora install
>> it was running in enforcing mode, which I have now changed!
>
> FYI, permissive mode doesn't enforce anything, it just logs what it
> would do
> if it /were/ in enforcing mode. It's primarily of use in setup or
> debugging
> tasks. Which is fine, as long as you aren't under the misapprehension that
> permissive mode is gaining you anything in terms of additional security.

Yep I did realize, but for my (basic) use I left it in permissive mode
ever since I had problems years ago and it never seemed to log anything
now so I could leave it working!

>
> Best Regards,
> Alex
>
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Peter H

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 18:49:48 +0100
From: jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: [bristol] 5.25" floppy disks
Message-ID: <3946-Sun19Jul2015184948+0100-jpff@codemist.co.uk>

I have a packet of about 15 Dyson floppy disks unused and about 7 used
ones. If anyone wants them let me know soon, else they go to
landfill.

==John ffitch
who also has a collection of 70s and80s manuals also for disposal

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:03:53 +0100
From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Linux Workstation Laptop
Message-ID:
<CAMgU7XWAEiwFbkGTdZ8ByENm48FQX4uEVQCDrtpUiGpkoFV7TA@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On 18 July 2015 at 11:58, Max B <psykx.out@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Amias, thanks for the offer I might take you up on that.

yep no probs , give me a shout via direct email , would be good to catch up.

Cheers
Amias

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 11:38:19 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Samba nmb (was Samba - cannot find file )
Message-ID: <55ACCF9B.3090400@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Hi,

I have now got Samba to run OK on the PC with Samba password and can see
and open my kmy files OK.

(I am also running enforcing Alex!)

My PC is at 192.168.0.2
Router at 192.168.0.1
Laptop at 192.168.0.4

They are all allocated with mac address on the router (Netgear DGN2200v4)

I was still having a problem seeing the server from the laptop and have
disabled its firewall (temporally) with no effect but just noticed
errors on start up with nmb on PC.

It gives an IP address (192.168.13.2) I am not using! and its all a bit
above my knowledge level.

I could not see anything on the laptop but now get an index with the
"Documents" folder link (as configured) but it does not open.

Apologies, I am putting relevant output below as emails with
attachments do not seem to get posted:

[peter@study ~]$ journalctl -xe
Jul 20 11:23:04 study nmbd[2885]: nmbd_subnetdb:make_subnet()
Jul 20 11:23:04 study nmbd[2885]: Failed to open nmb socket on interface
192.168.13.2 for port 137. Error was Cannot assign requested address
Jul 20 11:23:04 study nmbd[2885]: [2015/07/20 11:23:04.496027, 0]
../lib/util/become_daemon.c:111(exit_daemon)
Jul 20 11:23:04 study nmbd[2885]: STATUS=daemon failed to start: NMBD
failed when creating subnet lists, error code 13
Jul 20 11:23:04 study systemd[1]: nmb.service: main process exited,
code=exited, status=1/FAILURE
Jul 20 11:23:04 study systemd[1]: Failed to start Samba NMB Daemon.
-- Subject: Unit nmb.service has failed
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
--
-- Unit nmb.service has failed.
--
-- The result is failed.
Jul 20 11:23:04 study systemd[1]: Unit nmb.service entered failed state.
Jul 20 11:23:04 study systemd[1]: nmb.service failed.
Jul 20 11:23:04 study audit[1]: <audit-1130> pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295
ses=4294967295 subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 msg='unit=nmb
comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd
Jul 20 11:23:04 study sudo[2873]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session closed
for user root
Jul 20 11:23:04 study audit[2873]: <audit-1106> pid=2873 uid=0 auid=1000
ses=1 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
msg='op=PAM:session_close grantors=pam_ke
Jul 20 11:23:04 study audit[2873]: <audit-1104> pid=2873 uid=0 auid=1000
ses=1 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
msg='op=PAM:setcred grantors=pam_env,pam_
Jul 20 11:23:04 study polkitd[818]: Unregistered Authentication Agent
for unix-process:2874:28643 (system bus name :1.81, object path
/org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/AuthenticationAge
Jul 20 11:23:57 study sudo[3131]: peter : TTY=pts/0 ; PWD=/home/peter ;
USER=root ; COMMAND=/bin/dnf install nmb
Jul 20 11:23:57 study sudo[3131]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session opened
for user root by peter(uid=0)
Jul 20 11:23:57 study audit[3131]: <audit-1123> pid=3131 uid=1000
auid=1000 ses=1
subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
msg='cwd="/home/peter" cmd=646E6620696
Jul 20 11:23:57 study audit[3131]: <audit-1110> pid=3131 uid=0 auid=1000
ses=1 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
msg='op=PAM:setcred grantors=pam_env,pam_
Jul 20 11:23:57 study audit[3131]: <audit-1105> pid=3131 uid=0 auid=1000
ses=1 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
msg='op=PAM:session_open grantors=pam_key
Jul 20 11:24:00 study sudo[3131]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session closed
for user root
Jul 20 11:24:00 study audit[3131]: <audit-1106> pid=3131 uid=0 auid=1000
ses=1 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
msg='op=PAM:session_close grantors=pam_ke
Jul 20 11:24:00 study audit[3131]: <audit-1104> pid=3131 uid=0 auid=1000
ses=1 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
msg='op=PAM:setcred grantors=pam_env,pam_
Jul 20 11:24:14 study chronyd[796]: Selected source 85.114.132.52
lines 1326-1354/1354 (END)

Any suggestions (nmb was running before I disabled the firewall!!)?

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Peter H

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3. Re: Linux Workstation Laptop (Alex Butcher)
4. Re: Samba - cannot find file after moving it into shared
directory (Peter Hemmings)
5. Re: Samba - cannot find file after moving it into shared
directory (Alex Butcher)

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 12:59:52 +0100
From: Max B <psykx.out@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Linux Workstation Laptop
Message-ID:
<CALe8LgFgBfcDe2whjs3=H_2zFYUrGs8wP27qHi16Kq1edt+R=g@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Workstations are easy to build from parts, so that wouldn't be an issue.
But really I'm looking at getting a laptop, the portability really is
a necessity. Reading reviews about entroware, they say that the mouse pad
isn't great, which is a shame.

Max

On 18 July 2015 at 12:39, James Cownie <jcownie@cantab.net> wrote:

> If you were after a workstation (rather than a laptop), then the Intel NUC
> <http://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/nuc/overview.html> might suit
> (though perhaps not if you want chunky graphics).
> AFAIK they come with no OS, so you can put what you like onto them.
>
> (Full disclaimer, I work for Intel, though on SW, not sales or hardware
> :-))
>
> --
> -- Jim
> --
> James Cownie <jcownie@cantab.net>
>
>
>
> On 18 Jul 2015, at 11:58, Max B <psykx.out@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> entroware looks interesting, I'd far rather support a company providing
> linux laptops, even if it does cost a bit more.
>
> @Amias, thanks for the offer I might take you up on that.
>
>
> On 16 July 2015 at 17:25, Stuart Ward <stuart.ward@bcs.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 14 July 2015 at 18:37, Max B <psykx.out@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Who makes good linux laptops at the moment?
>>
>>
>> Have a look at entroware https://www.entroware.com the chaps at ubuntu
>> podcast just reviewed one of these.
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> -- Stuart Ward M +44 7782325143
>>
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 23:41:21 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Samba - cannot find file after moving it into
shared directory
Message-ID: <55AAD611.9050204@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Hi,

I decided to try to get samba running on my PC before checking it from a
laptop.

I am running Fedora 22 but used this for 20:

https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/40353/how-to-enable-samba-share-for-a-specific-directory-fedora-20/

I did a smb//192.168.0.2 from the file manager to connect to the server
and I could see my folder and files in /home/peter/Documents/.

I have a kmymoney file in that directory tand can open it using samba
but it is an old file!

My current file was in my "home" directory so I moved it to
/home/peter/Documents/ and reconnected the server where I can see now
see the icons for both files BUT I can only open the older one!

I checked kmymoney can open both files from "Documents" and the file
permissions and UID's are the same but kymoney reports:

File
/run/user/1000/gvfs/smb-share:server=192.168.0.2,share=documents/May2015.kmy
not found.

Any ideas as to why it cannot be opened?

Regards
--
Peter H

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 10:39:37 +0100 (BST)
From: Alex Butcher <lug@assursys.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Linux Workstation Laptop
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"

Hi -

It depends what you mean by "portability"; if you mean "using on the move,
probably on battery power, e.g. whilst on a train", then a NUC is almost
certainly of no use to you. If, on the other hand, you just mean "something
I can sling in a backpack and take between home and my permanent place of
work/study", then James' suggestion merits investigation. You'd also be
able to trivially use whatever HID devices suit your needs (though you might
want to buy two or more examples of each, to save you slinging those in the
backpack too).

Best Regards,
Alex

On Sat, 18 Jul 2015, Max B wrote:

> Workstations are easy to build from parts, so that wouldn't be an issue. But
> really I'm looking at getting a laptop, the portability really is
> a?necessity. Reading reviews about entroware, they say that the mouse pad
> isn't great, which is a shame.?
> Max
>
> On 18 July 2015 at 12:39, James Cownie <jcownie@cantab.net> wrote:
> If you were after a workstation (rather than a laptop), then
> the?Intel NUC?might suit (though perhaps not if you want chunky
> graphics).AFAIK they come with no OS, so you can put what you
> like onto them.
>
> (Full disclaimer, I work for Intel, though on SW, not sales or
> hardware :-))
> ?
> --
> -- Jim
> --
> James Cownie <jcownie@cantab.net>
>
>
>
> On 18 Jul 2015, at 11:58, Max B <psykx.out@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> entroware looks interesting, I'd far rather support a company
> providing linux laptops, even if it does cost a bit more.?
> @Amias, thanks for the offer I might take you up on that.?
> ?
>
> On 16 July 2015 at 17:25, Stuart Ward <stuart.ward@bcs.org>
> wrote:
>
> On 14 July 2015 at 18:37, Max B
> <psykx.out@gmail.com> wrote:
> Who makes good linux laptops at the
> moment?
>
>
> Have a look at entroware https://www.entroware.com the
> chaps at ubuntu podcast just reviewed one of these.
>
> Stuart
>
> -- Stuart Ward M +44 7782325143
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 11:56:03 +0100
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Samba - cannot find file after moving it into
shared directory
Message-ID: <55AB8243.40103@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
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Update

On 18/07/15 23:41, Peter Hemmings wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I decided to try to get samba running on my PC before checking it from a
> laptop.
>
> I am running Fedora 22 but used this for 20:
>
> https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/40353/how-to-enable-samba-share-for-a-specific-directory-fedora-20/
>
>
> I did a smb//192.168.0.2 from the file manager to connect to the server
> and I could see my folder and files in /home/peter/Documents/.
>
> I have a kmymoney file in that directory tand can open it using samba
> but it is an old file!
>
> My current file was in my "home" directory so I moved it to
> /home/peter/Documents/ and reconnected the server where I can see now
> see the icons for both files BUT I can only open the older one!
>
> I checked kmymoney can open both files from "Documents" and the file
> permissions and UID's are the same but kymoney reports:
>
> File
> /run/user/1000/gvfs/smb-share:server=192.168.0.2,share=documents/May2015.kmy
> not found.
>
>
> Any ideas as to why it cannot be opened?

I have now noticed SELinux is reporting a problem, it was a bit late
last night!!:

SELinux is preventing smbd from read access on the file May2015.kmy.

Plugin: catchall
you want to allow smbd to have read access on the May2015.kmy fileIf you
believe that smbd should be allowed read access on the May2015.kmy file
by default.
You should report this as a bug.
You can generate a local policy module to allow this access.
Allow this access for now by executing:
# grep smbd /var/log/audit/audit.log | audit2allow -M mypol
# semodule -i mypol.pp

I am not sure why this happened but allowing the access as above sorted
it out OK.

I know many on the list prefer not to run SElinux, but I prefer to leave
it in permissive mode so I can see alerts without it stopping things
working. As I had not touched it since a clean Fedora install it was
running in enforcing mode, which I have now changed!

>
>
> Regards

Regards

--
Peter H

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:46:02 +0100 (BST)
From: Alex Butcher <lug@assursys.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Samba - cannot find file after moving it into
shared directory
Message-ID:
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On Sun, 19 Jul 2015, Peter Hemmings wrote:

> I know many on the list prefer not to run SElinux, but I prefer to leave it
> in permissive mode so I can see alerts without it stopping things working.
> As I had not touched it since a clean Fedora install it was running in
> enforcing mode, which I have now changed!

FYI, permissive mode doesn't enforce anything, it just logs what it would do
if it /were/ in enforcing mode. It's primarily of use in setup or debugging
tasks. Which is fine, as long as you aren't under the misapprehension that
permissive mode is gaining you anything in terms of additional security.

Best Regards,
Alex

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