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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9) (Peter Hemmings)
2. Re: Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9) (David Smith)
3. Re: Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9) (Steve King)
4. Re: Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9)
(Andy Pepperdine (BBLUG account))
5. Re: Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9) (Alex Butcher)
6. Re: Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9) (Peter Hemmings)
7. Re: Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9) (Keith Edmunds)
8. Re: Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9) (Peter Hemmings)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 15:06:27 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9)
Message-ID: <54E4AA73.7010507@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Ithink I will give up for a while!, been trying for nearly 3 hours,
changed passwords set up 2 step OK but still K-9 fails to send and still
insists I have a wrong password/username.
When I repeat the setup in K-9 (sending), it tries to verify the server
and come back with:
"Username or password incorrect.(AUTH PLAIN failed (Negative SMTP
reply:535 5.7.8
http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=4257hj10sm20383607wjc.48
- gsmtp))"
Can this only meen I still have a typo!!?
On 18/02/15 10:20, Alex Butcher wrote:
> For Peter:
>
> I think this should work - configure the Outgoing Server in K-9 for your
> *Eclipse* account to be:
>
> server: smtp.googlemail.com
> security: SSL/TLS
> port: 465
> require sign-in: tick
> username: yourgoogleusername@googlemail.com
> authentication: normal password
> password: yourgooglepassword (or an application-specific password
> <https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833?hl=en> if
> you're using Google 2-Step Verification
> <https://www.google.com/landing/2step/> - which, incidentally, I
> *strongly* recommend, albeit at the cost of a bit more complexity)
>
> Assuming, of course, that the telco whose network you're roaming on doesn't
> block SMTPS connections!
>
> Best Regards,
> Alex
I Can still send via my new passworded gmail account!
Regards
--
Peter H
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 15:11:40 +0000
From: David Smith <David.Smith@imgtec.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9)
Message-ID:
<15A9D35B5490FC49AC0524AE3A085F0888B2D5@BRMAIL01.br.imgtec.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:bristol-
> bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Peter Hemmings
> I think I will give up for a while!, been trying for nearly 3 hours, changed
> passwords set up 2 step OK but still K-9 fails to send and still insists I have a
> wrong password/username.
This link:
http://www.minertechsolutions.com/blogs/how-to-configure-your-android-phone-with-gmail-using-k-9-mail-more/
Says:
SMTP server: smtp.gmail.com
Security Type: TLS (always)
Port: 587
Check the "Require Sign-in." box
Authentication type: PLAIN
Username: email@domain.com
Password: yourPassword
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 15:52:41 -0000
From: "Steve King" <debian@invux.com>
To: "Bristol and Bath Linux User Group" <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9)
Message-ID:
<d7a9a61506de0d49f304581cd8760a0a.squirrel@dazzle.invux.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
> On Wed, 18 Feb 2015, David Smith wrote:
>
>> I'm using the same (K9 with Eclipse); I'll have a look at my phone
>> settings.
>>
>> One thing to remember - Eclipse's outgoing SMTP server rejects mails if
>> you're not contacting it via your Eclipse broadband connection.
>> Therefore, you can only send outgoing mails when you're actually at home
>> (or maybe routing via home through a VPN).
>
> Actually, it appears to go a step further and drop SMTP connection
> requests
> from outside their customer network!
>
> For Peter:
>
> I think this should work - configure the Outgoing Server in K-9 for your
> *Eclipse* account to be:
>
> server: smtp.googlemail.com
> security: SSL/TLS
> port: 465
> require sign-in: tick
> username: yourgoogleusername@googlemail.com
> authentication: normal password
> password: yourgooglepassword (or an application-specific password
> <https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833?hl=en> if
> you're using Google 2-Step Verification
> <https://www.google.com/landing/2step/> - which, incidentally, I
> *strongly* recommend, albeit at the cost of a bit more complexity)
>
> Assuming, of course, that the telco whose network you're roaming on
> doesn't
> block SMTPS connections!
>
> Best Regards,
> Alex
>
Isn't best practice to use TLS via port 587? (RFC 6409)
It is designed as a first hop for email clients.
Port 465 is 'deprecated'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMTPS
--
Steve
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 16:01:14 +0000
From: "Andy Pepperdine (BBLUG account)" <bbl.andy@pepsplace.org.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9)
Message-ID: <54E4B74A.90706@pepsplace.org.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
On 18/02/15 15:06, Peter Hemmings wrote:
> Ithink I will give up for a while!, been trying for nearly 3 hours,
> changed passwords set up 2 step OK but still K-9 fails to send and still
> insists I have a wrong password/username.
Peter, check your port numbers. SSL is on 465, STARTTLS is on 587. See:
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1074635?hl=en
Andy
>
> When I repeat the setup in K-9 (sending), it tries to verify the server
> and come back with:
>
> "Username or password incorrect.(AUTH PLAIN failed (Negative SMTP
> reply:535 5.7.8
> http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=4257hj10sm20383607wjc.48
> - gsmtp))"
>
> Can this only meen I still have a typo!!?
>
>
> On 18/02/15 10:20, Alex Butcher wrote:
>> For Peter:
>>
>> I think this should work - configure the Outgoing Server in K-9 for your
>> *Eclipse* account to be:
>>
>> server: smtp.googlemail.com
>> security: SSL/TLS
>> port: 465
>> require sign-in: tick
>> username: yourgoogleusername@googlemail.com
>> authentication: normal password
>> password: yourgooglepassword (or an application-specific password
>> <https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833?hl=en> if
>> you're using Google 2-Step Verification
>> <https://www.google.com/landing/2step/> - which, incidentally, I
>> *strongly* recommend, albeit at the cost of a bit more complexity)
>>
>> Assuming, of course, that the telco whose network you're roaming on
>> doesn't
>> block SMTPS connections!
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Alex
>
> I Can still send via my new passworded gmail account!
>
> Regards
--
Andy Pepperdine
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 16:04:49 +0000 (GMT)
From: Alex Butcher <lug@assursys.co.uk>
To: debian@invux.com, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9)
Message-ID:
<alpine.LFD.2.11.1502181558470.4292@sbhezbfg.of5.nffheflf.cev>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
On Wed, 18 Feb 2015, Steve King wrote:
[...]
>> server: smtp.googlemail.com
>> security: SSL/TLS
>> port: 465
[...]
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Alex
>>
>
> Isn't best practice to use TLS via port 587? (RFC 6409)
> It is designed as a first hop for email clients.
> Port 465 is 'deprecated'
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMTPS
I seem to recall (when I set up K-9 back in 2010), it did like Thunderbird
does and looked up mail providers' settings from an online database based on
the domain name. It worked, and has continued to work, so my settings file
has moved from device to device without modification since then.
So, quite possibly...
<https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78775?hl=en> seems to be the most
official page on Google's SMTP service that I can find.
> Steve
Best Regards,
Alex
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 16:53:30 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9)
Message-ID: <54E4C38A.5040909@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Thanks for the info (been out).
I did find the info on different using port 587 which I tried before
posting, but that did not work either.
I will have another go later after reading links and redouble checks for
typos!
On 18/02/15 16:04, Alex Butcher wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Feb 2015, Steve King wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>> server: smtp.googlemail.com
>>> security: SSL/TLS
>>> port: 465
>
> [...]
>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Alex
>>>
>>
>> Isn't best practice to use TLS via port 587? (RFC 6409)
>> It is designed as a first hop for email clients.
>> Port 465 is 'deprecated'
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMTPS
>
> I seem to recall (when I set up K-9 back in 2010), it did like Thunderbird
> does and looked up mail providers' settings from an online database
> based on
> the domain name. It worked, and has continued to work, so my settings file
> has moved from device to device without modification since then.
>
> So, quite possibly...
>
> <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78775?hl=en> seems to be the most
> official page on Google's SMTP service that I can find.
>
>> Steve
>
> Best Regards,
> Alex
>
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Regards
--
Peter H
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 21:25:45 +0000
From: Keith Edmunds <kae@midnighthax.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9)
Message-ID: <20150218212545.1d515b6b@ws.the.cage>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 10:25:20 +0000, David.Smith@imgtec.com said:
> top-posting (which I blame on having to use LookOut which pretty much
> forces you to top-post)
Workman, tools...
--
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't" - Jack Dempsey
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 00:36:51 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9)
Message-ID: <54E53023.4090504@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
On 18/02/15 16:04, Alex Butcher wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Feb 2015, Steve King wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>> server: smtp.googlemail.com
>>> security: SSL/TLS
>>> port: 465
I have now spent over 10 hours with different combinations and must give
up for a while!
I checked on 2 step but that needed me to generate another password for
K-9 (using my laptop) which still did not work so switched it off as it
was just another layer of likely problems.
Back to being able to send by gmail and not K-9, BTW I did change
server: smtp.gmail.com but that did not work either.
Will try later this week.
>
> [...]
>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Alex
>>>
PS just a thought as I was finishing, could this problem caused by my
lan router or should I only be using this through my mobile network!?
(straws and clutching seem to be relevant here)
--
Peter H
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