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Today's Topics:

1. Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9) (Peter Hemmings)
2. Re: Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9) (David Smith)
3. Re: Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9) (david)
4. Re: Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9) (Alex Butcher)
5. Re: Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9) (David Smith)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 10:06:22 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9)
Message-ID: <54E4641E.7080207@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Hi,

I am still catching up with this new world of Smartphones!

I had set up my smartphone to download messages from my Eclipse ISP
several months ago via IMAP and all works OK but I had never tried
sending mail!

Whilst on holiday I tried to send "wish you were here" messages and it
refused to connect to Eclipses smtp server which I had set and thought I
had settings incorrect!

After a quick call to my ISP I realized I could not send through my ISP
but was told I could easily set up K-9 to post via my gmail account and
receive from eclipse.

Unfortunately I cannot find where the smtp settings are for "Mail" on
the Android but did a bit of googling and found some information however
it still will not send via my gmail account. I can send a message from
the "Mail" app to my eclipse account but would like to do it from my
normal K-9 app on the phone.

FYI on my K-9 > settings > Account settings > Sending mail > Outgoing
server I have:

smtp server - smtp.gmail.com
Security - SSL/TLS
Port - 587
Requiring sign-in is ticked

Any help to get this to work would be appreciated.

Regards

--
Peter H



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 10:09:14 +0000
From: David Smith <David.Smith@imgtec.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9)
Message-ID:
<15A9D35B5490FC49AC0524AE3A085F0888B1E7@BRMAIL01.br.imgtec.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I'm using the same (K9 with Eclipse); I'll have a look at my phone settings.

One thing to remember - Eclipse's outgoing SMTP server rejects mails if you're not contacting it via your Eclipse broadband connection. Therefore, you can only send outgoing mails when you're actually at home (or maybe routing via home through a VPN).

> -----Original Message-----
> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:bristol-
> bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Peter Hemmings
> Sent: 18 February 2015 10:06
> To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
> Subject: [bristol] Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9)
>
> Hi,
>
> I am still catching up with this new world of Smartphones!
>
> I had set up my smartphone to download messages from my Eclipse ISP
> several months ago via IMAP and all works OK but I had never tried sending
> mail!
>
> Whilst on holiday I tried to send "wish you were here" messages and it
> refused to connect to Eclipses smtp server which I had set and thought I had
> settings incorrect!
>
> After a quick call to my ISP I realized I could not send through my ISP but was
> told I could easily set up K-9 to post via my gmail account and receive from
> eclipse.
>
> Unfortunately I cannot find where the smtp settings are for "Mail" on the
> Android but did a bit of googling and found some information however it still
> will not send via my gmail account. I can send a message from the "Mail" app
> to my eclipse account but would like to do it from my normal K-9 app on the
> phone.
>
> FYI on my K-9 > settings > Account settings > Sending mail > Outgoing server I
> have:
>
> smtp server - smtp.gmail.com
> Security - SSL/TLS
> Port - 587
> Requiring sign-in is ticked
>
> Any help to get this to work would be appreciated.
>
> Regards
>
> --
> Peter H
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bristol mailing list
> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol



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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 10:14:32 +0000
From: david <david@avoncliff.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9)
Message-ID: <54E46608.9020809@avoncliff.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 18/02/15 10:09, David Smith wrote:
> I'm using the same (K9 with Eclipse); I'll have a look at my phone settings.
>
> One thing to remember - Eclipse's outgoing SMTP server rejects mails if you're not contacting it via your Eclipse broadband connection. Therefore, you can only send outgoing mails when you're actually at home (or maybe routing via home through a VPN).
>
A problem I have had when away from home is hotels and other wi-fi
filtering email ports. Nothing standard, some times it works, sometimes
you can get round it, worst case resort to web mail.
David


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:bristol-
>> bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Peter Hemmings
>> Sent: 18 February 2015 10:06
>> To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
>> Subject: [bristol] Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9)
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am still catching up with this new world of Smartphones!
>>
>> I had set up my smartphone to download messages from my Eclipse ISP
>> several months ago via IMAP and all works OK but I had never tried sending
>> mail!
>>
>> Whilst on holiday I tried to send "wish you were here" messages and it
>> refused to connect to Eclipses smtp server which I had set and thought I had
>> settings incorrect!
>>
>> After a quick call to my ISP I realized I could not send through my ISP but was
>> told I could easily set up K-9 to post via my gmail account and receive from
>> eclipse.
>>
>> Unfortunately I cannot find where the smtp settings are for "Mail" on the
>> Android but did a bit of googling and found some information however it still
>> will not send via my gmail account. I can send a message from the "Mail" app
>> to my eclipse account but would like to do it from my normal K-9 app on the
>> phone.
>>
>> FYI on my K-9 > settings > Account settings > Sending mail > Outgoing server I
>> have:
>>
>> smtp server - smtp.gmail.com
>> Security - SSL/TLS
>> Port - 587
>> Requiring sign-in is ticked
>>
>> Any help to get this to work would be appreciated.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> --
>> Peter H
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bristol mailing list
>> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 10:20:26 +0000 (GMT)
From: Alex Butcher <lug@assursys.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9)
Message-ID:
<alpine.LFD.2.11.1502181014400.4292@sbhezbfg.of5.nffheflf.cev>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

On Wed, 18 Feb 2015, David Smith wrote:

> I'm using the same (K9 with Eclipse); I'll have a look at my phone settings.
>
> One thing to remember - Eclipse's outgoing SMTP server rejects mails if you're not contacting it via your Eclipse broadband connection. Therefore, you can only send outgoing mails when you're actually at home (or maybe routing via home through a VPN).

Actually, it appears to go a step further and drop SMTP connection requests
from outside their customer network!

For Peter:

I think this should work - configure the Outgoing Server in K-9 for your
*Eclipse* account to be:

server: smtp.googlemail.com
security: SSL/TLS
port: 465
require sign-in: tick
username: yourgoogleusername@googlemail.com
authentication: normal password
password: yourgooglepassword (or an application-specific password
<https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833?hl=en> if
you're using Google 2-Step Verification
<https://www.google.com/landing/2step/> - which, incidentally, I
*strongly* recommend, albeit at the cost of a bit more complexity)

Assuming, of course, that the telco whose network you're roaming on doesn't
block SMTPS connections!

Best Regards,
Alex

>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:bristol-
>> bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Peter Hemmings
>> Sent: 18 February 2015 10:06
>> To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
>> Subject: [bristol] Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9)
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am still catching up with this new world of Smartphones!
>>
>> I had set up my smartphone to download messages from my Eclipse ISP
>> several months ago via IMAP and all works OK but I had never tried sending
>> mail!
>>
>> Whilst on holiday I tried to send "wish you were here" messages and it
>> refused to connect to Eclipses smtp server which I had set and thought I had
>> settings incorrect!
>>
>> After a quick call to my ISP I realized I could not send through my ISP but was
>> told I could easily set up K-9 to post via my gmail account and receive from
>> eclipse.
>>
>> Unfortunately I cannot find where the smtp settings are for "Mail" on the
>> Android but did a bit of googling and found some information however it still
>> will not send via my gmail account. I can send a message from the "Mail" app
>> to my eclipse account but would like to do it from my normal K-9 app on the
>> phone.
>>
>> FYI on my K-9 > settings > Account settings > Sending mail > Outgoing server I
>> have:
>>
>> smtp server - smtp.gmail.com
>> Security - SSL/TLS
>> Port - 587
>> Requiring sign-in is ticked
>>
>> Any help to get this to work would be appreciated.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> --
>> Peter H
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bristol mailing list
>> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 10:25:20 +0000
From: David Smith <David.Smith@imgtec.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Problem with mail on Smartphone (K-9)
Message-ID:
<15A9D35B5490FC49AC0524AE3A085F0888B214@BRMAIL01.br.imgtec.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

From: bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Peter Hemmings
> I had set up my smartphone to download messages from my Eclipse ISP
> several months ago via IMAP and all works OK but I had never tried sending
> mail!
[snip]

Damn - just realised I've committed multiple mailing list felonies - top-posting (which I blame on having to use LookOut which pretty much forces you to top-post) and not actually reading the mail, resulting in answering the wrong question. Apologies. :(

Anyway, I've been considering setting up a RPi as a VPN server so that I can get my phone to appear to be on my home network.




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