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Today's Topics:

1. LUG Meeting Today Sat Dec 19th 2015 (Sebastian)
2. Re: LUG Meeting Today Sat Dec 19th 2015
(peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk)
3. Re: LUG Meeting Today Sat Dec 19th 2015 (John Honniball)
4. Re: LUG Meeting Today Sat Dec 19th 2015 (Sebastian)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 01:30:43 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk, sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com
Subject: [bristol] LUG Meeting Today Sat Dec 19th 2015
Message-ID: <5674B343.80204@gmx.com>
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Hi

For those that do not know we have the LUG meeting a week earlier in
December, because of Christmas, which means that it's today. I didn't
end up coming last month, but may be there later on today, but not
decided yet, and if so at about 3pm probably.

Whoever is attending the meeting, which is I wonder, can probably have a
Christmas dinner there today at the pub. Someone is likely to be at the
pub between 1pm and 1:30pm with people leaving usually between 4 and
5:30pm We sit on the lower level at the back of the Knights Templar pub
when entering it in the left hand side corner with the plugs, or near
there instead if someone is already there. The pub is located in Temple
Quay near Temple Meads train station and Broadmead.

Christmas Regards

Sebastian



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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 11:57:00 +0300
From: peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LUG Meeting Today Sat Dec 19th 2015
Message-ID: <1450515420.67452664@f32.my.com>
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Sorry I will not be there today, a little busy!
All the best for Christmas and the new year.?
--
Peter H
Sent from myMail app for Android Saturday, 19 December 2015, 01:30am +00:00 from Sebastian < sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com> :

>Hi
>
>For those that do not know we have the LUG meeting a week earlier in
>December, because of Christmas, which means that it's today. I didn't
>end up coming last month, but may be there later on today, but not
>decided yet, and if so at about 3pm probably.
>
>Whoever is attending the meeting, which is I wonder, can probably have a
>Christmas dinner there today at the pub. Someone is likely to be at the
>pub between 1pm and 1:30pm with people leaving usually between 4 and
>5:30pm We sit on the lower level at the back of the Knights Templar pub
>when entering it in the left hand side corner with the plugs, or near
>there instead if someone is already there. The pub is located in Temple
>Quay near Temple Meads train station and Broadmead.
>
>Christmas Regards
>
>Sebastian
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 10:22:36 +0000
From: John Honniball <coredump@gifford.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LUG Meeting Today Sat Dec 19th 2015
Message-ID: <56752FEC.90508@gifford.co.uk>
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On 19/12/2015 01:30, Sebastian wrote:
> For those that do not know we have the LUG meeting a week earlier in
> December, because of Christmas, which means that it's today.

Which is my birthday! But I'm not sure if I will struggle with the
Christmas crowds and traffic, to be honest. So I may come along,
or I may not. Is anybody else going? Talk me into it!

--
John Honniball





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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 11:10:58 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com
Subject: Re: [bristol] LUG Meeting Today Sat Dec 19th 2015
Message-ID: <56753B42.2070705@gmx.com>
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On 19/12/15 10:22, John Honniball wrote:
> On 19/12/2015 01:30, Sebastian wrote:
>> For those that do not know we have the LUG meeting a week earlier in
>> December, because of Christmas, which means that it's today.
>
> Which is my birthday!
Happy Birthday
> But I'm not sure if I will struggle with the
> Christmas crowds and traffic, to be honest.
Yeah plus this might sound like an excuse a bit, but walking around
Bristol in the likely rain etc isn't that nice, one reason I was
thinking of not bothering to get on the bus to Bristol today. Indeed to
the Christmas crowd, but depending on which way are going to the pub,
can avoid it or enough. Our pub though will probably be a bit busyer
than usual since the Christmas crowd though.
> So I may come along,
> or I may not. Is anybody else going? Talk me into it!
>
Ok no Peter, John would prefer not to go today it seems, and no one else
has said on the mailing list about coming or possibly coming, and we
only get a few usually anyway. Ok I have decided I am not coming today.

See some of you in 2016, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Regards

Sebastian





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1. GRUB2 Software Raid on CentOS 7.2 at on Fasthosts dedicated
server (Steven Nash)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:16:43 +0000
From: Steven Nash <steven_nash@compuserve.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] GRUB2 Software Raid on CentOS 7.2 at on Fasthosts
dedicated server
Message-ID: <272DD5EE-2D70-43CF-8E1A-94FA329DA89D@compuserve.com>
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Hi All,

I?ve got a dedicated server at Fasthosts running CentOS 7.2 (was originally upgraded from 6.x). Sorry for the long mail!

I?ve had a problem booting for a while and the only way I can reboot without a crash is to:

1. Log onto kvm
2. Reset (to reboot)
3. Hit 'c' when grub shows to enter command shell.
4. Enter the following:
set root=(hd1,msdos2)
legacy_configfile /grub/grub.conf

Then the latest default kernel boots.

If I try and just do an automatic reboot I get a crash, I only have a screen dump of the KVM console, not sure if this list accepts attachments?

If would be good to either fix grub.cfg or force grub2 to do what I do manually

Here?s some details about my setup:

cat /proc/mdstat
Personalities : [raid1]
md0 : active raid1 sda2[0] sdb2[2]
524224 blocks super 1.0 [2/2] [UU]

md1 : active raid1 sda3[0] sdb3[1]
974008128 blocks super 1.1 [2/2] [UU]
bitmap: 2/8 pages [8KB], 65536KB chunk

unused devices: <none>

cat /etc/fstab
#
# /etc/fstab
# Created by anaconda on Fri Aug 22 15:34:10 2014
#
# Accessible filesystems, by reference, are maintained under '/dev/disk'
# See man pages fstab(5), findfs(8), mount(8) and/or blkid(8) for more info
#
/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 / ext4 defaults 1 1
UUID=7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795 /boot ext4 defaults 1 2
UUID=10f23517-d44b-41ae-ab5d-49fa94301941 swap swap defaults 0 0
UUID=199f328d-4228-4728-a979-f8dfd98c3c11 swap swap defaults 0 0
tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs defaults 0 0
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0


fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes, 1953525168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disk label type: dos
Disk identifier: 0xd88cd88c

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 2048 4196351 2097152 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda2 * 4196352 5244927 524288 fd Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sda3 5244928 1953523711 974139392 fd Linux raid autodetect

Disk /dev/sdb: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes, 1953525168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disk label type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x000ad3a6

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 2048 4196351 2097152 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdb2 * 4196352 5244927 524288 fd Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sdb3 5244928 1953523711 974139392 fd Linux raid autodetect

Disk /dev/md1: 997.4 GB, 997384323072 bytes, 1948016256 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00: 997.4 GB, 997371936768 bytes, 1947992064 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/md0: 536 MB, 536805376 bytes, 1048448 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes

blkid
/dev/sda1: UUID="10f23517-d44b-41ae-ab5d-49fa94301941" TYPE="swap"
/dev/sda2: UUID="aa762a14-2d0b-163e-970c-8b8d7161ce03" UUID_SUB="6227f0dc-5546-ca3f-229c-5be9c8bfda87" LABEL="localhost.localdomain:0" TYPE="linux_raid_member"
/dev/sda3: UUID="ef34c834-08e2-f0d7-c02e-0214a2a4c4ee" UUID_SUB="11610be9-bfe8-6b99-995d-75ff8484b06a" LABEL="localhost.localdomain:1" TYPE="linux_raid_member"
/dev/sdb1: UUID="199f328d-4228-4728-a979-f8dfd98c3c11" TYPE="swap"
/dev/sdb2: UUID="aa762a14-2d0b-163e-970c-8b8d7161ce03" UUID_SUB="e250771a-d5d9-c761-8371-9abbaae43c80" LABEL="localhost.localdomain:0" TYPE="linux_raid_member"
/dev/sdb3: UUID="ef34c834-08e2-f0d7-c02e-0214a2a4c4ee" UUID_SUB="02186339-c68b-521e-8760-49d1efc78d9a" LABEL="localhost.localdomain:1" TYPE="linux_raid_member"
/dev/md1: UUID="7LSr9U-Ym46-0gvq-Zxqo-JFWD-R8cx-Vul8Eu" TYPE="LVM2_member"
/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00: UUID="b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47" TYPE="ext4"
/dev/md0: UUID="7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795" TYPE="ext4"

My legacy config file (that works) looks like this: /etc/grub.conf

# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
# NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that
# all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
# root (hd0,1)
# kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00
# initrd /initrd-[generic-]version.img
#boot=/dev/sda
default=0
timeout=5
splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
hiddenmenu
title CentOS Linux (3.10.0-327.el7.x86_64) 7 (Core)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /vmlinuz-3.10.0-327.el7.x86_64 ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 rd_NO_LUKS KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=uk LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 crashkernel=auto rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup00/LogVol00 rd_NO_DM rd_MD_UUID=ef34c834:08e2f0d7:c02e0214:a2a4c4ee rhgb quiet
initrd /initramfs-3.10.0-327.el7.x86_64.img
title CentOS Linux (3.10.0-229.20.1.el7.x86_64) 7 (Core)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.20.1.el7.x86_64 ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 rd_NO_LUKS KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=uk LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 crashkernel=auto rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup00/LogVol00 rd_NO_DM rd_MD_UUID=ef34c834:08e2f0d7:c02e0214:a2a4c4ee rhgb quiet
initrd /initramfs-3.10.0-229.20.1.el7.x86_64.img
title CentOS Linux (3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64) 7 (Core)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64 ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 rd_NO_LUKS KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=uk LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 crashkernel=auto rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup00/LogVol00 rd_NO_DM rd_MD_UUID=ef34c834:08e2f0d7:c02e0214:a2a4c4ee rhgb quiet
initrd /initramfs-3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64.img
title CentOS Linux (3.10.0-229.11.1.el7.x86_64) 7 (Core)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.11.1.el7.x86_64 ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 rd_NO_LUKS KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=uk LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 crashkernel=auto rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup00/LogVol00 rd_NO_DM rd_MD_UUID=ef34c834:08e2f0d7:c02e0214:a2a4c4ee rhgb quiet
initrd /initramfs-3.10.0-229.11.1.el7.x86_64.img
title CentOS Linux (3.10.0-229.7.2.el7.x86_64) 7 (Core)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.7.2.el7.x86_64 ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 rd_NO_LUKS KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=uk LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 crashkernel=auto rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup00/LogVol00 rd_NO_DM rd_MD_UUID=ef34c834:08e2f0d7:c02e0214:a2a4c4ee rhgb quiet
initrd /initramfs-3.10.0-229.7.2.el7.x86_64.img
title CentOS Linux 7 Rescue 2aeb7420eb976f7a1eeb724400000020 (3.10.0-123.6.3.el7.x86_64)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /vmlinuz-0-rescue-2aeb7420eb976f7a1eeb724400000020 ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 rd_NO_LUKS KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=uk LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 crashkernel=auto rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup00/LogVol00 rd_NO_DM rd_MD_UUID=ef34c834:08e2f0d7:c02e0214:a2a4c4ee rhgb quiet
initrd /initramfs-0-rescue-2aeb7420eb976f7a1eeb724400000020.img

For gub2:

cat /etc/default/grub
GRUB_TIMEOUT=9
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="$(sed 's, release .*$,,g' /etc/system-release)"
GRUB_DEFAULT=saved
#GRUB_DISABLE_UUID=true
#GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rd.lvm.lv=VolGroup00/LogVol00 crashkernel=auto vconsole.font=latarcyrheb-sun16 vconsole.keymap=uk rhgb quiet?

I?ve tried disabling UUID with various combinations and running grub2-mkconfig but UUID?s still appear.

I?ve also tried rebooting, editing and substituting the UUID?s for hd0,msdos2 but that didn?t help.

My grub2 config looks like: /etc/grub2.cfg

#
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
#
# It is automatically generated by grub2-mkconfig using templates
# from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
#

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
set pager=1

if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then
load_env
fi
if [ "${next_entry}" ] ; then
set default="${next_entry}"
set next_entry=
save_env next_entry
set boot_once=true
else
set default="0"
fi

if [ x"${feature_menuentry_id}" = xy ]; then
menuentry_id_option="--id"
else
menuentry_id_option=""
fi

export menuentry_id_option

if [ "${prev_saved_entry}" ]; then
set saved_entry="${prev_saved_entry}"
save_env saved_entry
set prev_saved_entry=
save_env prev_saved_entry
set boot_once=true
fi

function savedefault {
if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then
saved_entry="${chosen}"
save_env saved_entry
fi
}

function load_video {
if [ x$feature_all_video_module = xy ]; then
insmod all_video
else
insmod efi_gop
insmod efi_uga
insmod ieee1275_fb
insmod vbe
insmod vga
insmod video_bochs
insmod video_cirrus
fi
}

if [ x$feature_default_font_path = xy ] ; then
font=unicode
else
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod lvm
insmod ext2
set root='lvmid/1Vb547-F6Db-6xQ3-M576-ZSdX-AU0e-HnWRJt/euuk0o-LyEh-l6Py-UXPL-fHuL-oOfW-Y738Jb'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='lvmid/1Vb547-F6Db-6xQ3-M576-ZSdX-AU0e-HnWRJt/euuk0o-LyEh-l6Py-UXPL-fHuL-oOfW-Y738Jb' b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47
fi
font="/usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2"
fi

if loadfont $font ; then
set gfxmode=auto
load_video
insmod gfxterm
set locale_dir=$prefix/locale
set lang=en_GB
insmod gettext
fi
terminal_output gfxterm
if [ x$feature_timeout_style = xy ] ; then
set timeout_style=menu
set timeout=5
# Fallback normal timeout code in case the timeout_style feature is
# unavailable.
else
set timeout=5
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
menuentry 'CentOS Linux (3.10.0-327.el7.x86_64) 7 (Core)' --class rhel fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --unrestricted $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-simple-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
load_video
set gfxpayload=keep
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod ext2
set root='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03' 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
fi
linux16 /vmlinuz-3.10.0-327.el7.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 ro LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
initrd16 /initramfs-3.10.0-327.el7.x86_64.img
}
menuentry 'CentOS Linux (3.10.0-229.20.1.el7.x86_64) 7 (Core)' --class rhel fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --unrestricted $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-simple-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
load_video
set gfxpayload=keep
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod ext2
set root='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03' 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
fi
linux16 /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.20.1.el7.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 ro LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
initrd16 /initramfs-3.10.0-229.20.1.el7.x86_64.img
}
menuentry 'CentOS Linux (3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64) 7 (Core)' --class rhel fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --unrestricted $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-simple-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
load_video
set gfxpayload=keep
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod ext2
set root='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03' 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
fi
linux16 /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 ro LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
initrd16 /initramfs-3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64.img
}
menuentry 'CentOS Linux 7 (Core)' --class rhel fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --unrestricted $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-simple-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
load_video
set gfxpayload=keep
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod ext2
set root='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03' 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
fi
linux16 /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 ro LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
initrd16 /initramfs-3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64.img
}
submenu 'Advanced options for CentOS Linux 7 (Core)' $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-advanced-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
menuentry 'CentOS Linux 7 (Core), with Linux 3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64' --class rhel fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --unrestricted $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64-advanced-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
load_video
set gfxpayload=keep
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod ext2
set root='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03' 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
fi
linux16 /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 ro LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
initrd16 /initramfs-3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64.img
}
menuentry 'CentOS Linux 7 (Core), with Linux 3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64 (recovery mode)' --class rhel fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --unrestricted $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64-recovery-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
load_video
set gfxpayload=keep
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod ext2
set root='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03' 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
fi
linux16 /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 ro single LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
initrd16 /initramfs-3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64.img
}
menuentry 'CentOS Linux 7 (Core), with Linux 3.10.0-229.11.1.el7.x86_64' --class rhel fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --unrestricted $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.10.0-229.11.1.el7.x86_64-advanced-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
load_video
set gfxpayload=keep
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod ext2
set root='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03' 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
fi
linux16 /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.11.1.el7.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 ro
initrd16 /initramfs-3.10.0-229.11.1.el7.x86_64.img
}
menuentry 'CentOS Linux 7 (Core), with Linux 3.10.0-229.11.1.el7.x86_64 (recovery mode)' --class rhel fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --unrestricted $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.10.0-229.11.1.el7.x86_64-recovery-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
load_video
set gfxpayload=keep
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod ext2
set root='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03' 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
fi
linux16 /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.11.1.el7.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 ro single
initrd16 /initramfs-3.10.0-229.11.1.el7.x86_64.img
}
menuentry 'CentOS Linux 7 (Core), with Linux 3.10.0-229.7.2.el7.x86_64' --class rhel fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --unrestricted $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.10.0-229.7.2.el7.x86_64-advanced-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
load_video
set gfxpayload=keep
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod ext2
set root='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03' 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
fi
linux16 /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.7.2.el7.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 ro
initrd16 /initramfs-3.10.0-229.7.2.el7.x86_64.img
}
menuentry 'CentOS Linux 7 (Core), with Linux 3.10.0-229.7.2.el7.x86_64 (recovery mode)' --class rhel fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --unrestricted $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.10.0-229.7.2.el7.x86_64-recovery-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
load_video
set gfxpayload=keep
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod ext2
set root='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03' 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
fi
linux16 /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.7.2.el7.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 ro single
initrd16 /initramfs-3.10.0-229.7.2.el7.x86_64.img
}
menuentry 'CentOS Linux 7 (Core), with Linux 0-rescue-2aeb7420eb976f7a1eeb724400000020' --class rhel fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --unrestricted $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-0-rescue-2aeb7420eb976f7a1eeb724400000020-advanced-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
load_video
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod ext2
set root='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03' 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
fi
linux16 /vmlinuz-0-rescue-2aeb7420eb976f7a1eeb724400000020 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 ro
initrd16 /initramfs-0-rescue-2aeb7420eb976f7a1eeb724400000020.img
}
menuentry 'CentOS Linux 7 (Core), with Linux 0-rescue-2aeb7420eb976f7a1eeb724400000020 (recovery mode)' --class rhel fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --unrestricted $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-0-rescue-2aeb7420eb976f7a1eeb724400000020-recovery-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
load_video
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod ext2
set root='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03' 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
fi
linux16 /vmlinuz-0-rescue-2aeb7420eb976f7a1eeb724400000020 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 ro single
initrd16 /initramfs-0-rescue-2aeb7420eb976f7a1eeb724400000020.img
}
}

### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###
### END /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_ppc_terminfo ###
### END /etc/grub.d/20_ppc_terminfo ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
# This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply type the
# menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to change
# the 'exec tail' line above.
### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###
if [ -f ${config_directory}/custom.cfg ]; then
source ${config_directory}/custom.cfg
elif [ -z "${config_directory}" -a -f $prefix/custom.cfg ]; then
source $prefix/custom.cfg;
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###

Cheers,
Steve


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 16:12:07 +0000
From: "2966710 ." <us.redpumas@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Bye Bye Firefox OS
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I was looking at TVs the other day that had Firefox OS (think was
Panasonic (edit YEP)) where does that leave those products I wonder?

http://www.techradar.com/news/television/6-best-smart-tv-platforms-in-the-world-today-1120795/2

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/os/devices/tv/

Steve

On 10 December 2015 at 01:12, Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I recently read:
> http://www.internetnews.com/blog/skerner/mozilla-exits-firefox-os-smartphone-business.html
> Well I guess really Mozilla took the wrong approach to begin with, by only
> targeting the developing world. However I do have a cheap Firefox OS phone
> for about three to four months now, and I think it's quite nice, that's the
> OS and the hardware. However Firefox OS is open source and it won't just go
> bye bye it seems. Two months or so ago, I read about a fork by former
> developers.
>
> Personally I would like to see in the next few years Ubuntu Touch or
> possibly Salifish OS what Jolla has, or something else possibly that's Linux
> based that doesn't even exist yet possibly, being much more popular and not
> just some niche OS for mobile. However is there any chance of that really
> happening or not, what do you think? I think Canonical has a very small
> chance at making Ubuntu Touch become much more popular. That's after the
> convergence has been properly done for example, and much more proper apps
> that lots of people actually want to use are offered as native apps are
> available some how in the app store. Or a Android apps compatibility layour
> is provided instead like Jolla's Salifish OS and Samsungs Tizen. Then yes
> maybe after those things Canonical will actually have a chance at making
> Ubuntu Touch become at least sort of main stream like Firefox the web
> browser is these days. Also when a network or two actually starts providing
> it on a contract to all of there customers, that could then be the start of
> Ubuntu Touch becoming more main stream, or if not at least less of a niche
> OS. Apparently two networks will already try it out on a contract when its
> time, but it's not known which pubically, but they are probably European
> ones. Canonical is apparently going to start targeting general consumers a
> bit more next year with Ubuntu Phones. Although even Microsoft with all it's
> money has lots of issues in trying to make Windows Phone much more popular,
> and Canonical will have much less of a chance at getting Ubuntu Touch out
> into the real mobile market it seems. As for Jolla I am currently waiting
> for a tablet with Salifish OS 2.0, and they have had some recent company
> issues, but the Jolla Phone is also nice :). I also have a feeling Jolla's
> goal isn't really to go main streame or sort of, unlike Canonical's, but for
> a Linux based OS that actually uses the BTFS file system and Wayland it's
> definitely an interesting one :).
>
> Android is ok for what it is, and there are even some interesting OS's based
> on it now. However wouldn't it be nice to have a proper Linux based
> alternative being much more popular? Or doesn't it matter really? What's
> your opinion and why I wonder? However it does seem to me that generally
> what OS people run on a standard computer is much less relevant now, since
> most users mainly use a smart phone and/or tablet these days instead.
>
> Regards
>
> Sebastian
>
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 01:12:21 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk, sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com
Subject: [bristol] Bye Bye Firefox OS
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Hi

I recently read:
http://www.internetnews.com/blog/skerner/mozilla-exits-firefox-os-smartphone-business.html
Well I guess really Mozilla took the wrong approach to begin with, by
only targeting the developing world. However I do have a cheap Firefox
OS phone for about three to four months now, and I think it's quite
nice, that's the OS and the hardware. However Firefox OS is open source
and it won't just go bye bye it seems. Two months or so ago, I read
about a fork by former developers.

Personally I would like to see in the next few years Ubuntu Touch or
possibly Salifish OS what Jolla has, or something else possibly that's
Linux based that doesn't even exist yet possibly, being much more
popular and not just some niche OS for mobile. However is there any
chance of that really happening or not, what do you think? I think
Canonical has a very small chance at making Ubuntu Touch become much
more popular. That's after the convergence has been properly done for
example, and much more proper apps that lots of people actually want to
use are offered as native apps are available some how in the app store.
Or a Android apps compatibility layour is provided instead like Jolla's
Salifish OS and Samsungs Tizen. Then yes maybe after those things
Canonical will actually have a chance at making Ubuntu Touch become at
least sort of main stream like Firefox the web browser is these days.
Also when a network or two actually starts providing it on a contract to
all of there customers, that could then be the start of Ubuntu Touch
becoming more main stream, or if not at least less of a niche OS.
Apparently two networks will already try it out on a contract when its
time, but it's not known which pubically, but they are probably European
ones. Canonical is apparently going to start targeting general consumers
a bit more next year with Ubuntu Phones. Although even Microsoft with
all it's money has lots of issues in trying to make Windows Phone much
more popular, and Canonical will have much less of a chance at getting
Ubuntu Touch out into the real mobile market it seems. As for Jolla I
am currently waiting for a tablet with Salifish OS 2.0, and they have
had some recent company issues, but the Jolla Phone is also nice :). I
also have a feeling Jolla's goal isn't really to go main streame or sort
of, unlike Canonical's, but for a Linux based OS that actually uses the
BTFS file system and Wayland it's definitely an interesting one :).

Android is ok for what it is, and there are even some interesting OS's
based on it now. However wouldn't it be nice to have a proper Linux
based alternative being much more popular? Or doesn't it matter
really? What's your opinion and why I wonder? However it does seem to
me that generally what OS people run on a standard computer is much less
relevant now, since most users mainly use a smart phone and/or tablet
these days instead.

Regards

Sebastian



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