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Today's Topics:

1. LUG Meeting Today Sat Dec 19th 2015 (Sebastian)
2. Re: LUG Meeting Today Sat Dec 19th 2015
(peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk)
3. Re: LUG Meeting Today Sat Dec 19th 2015 (John Honniball)
4. Re: LUG Meeting Today Sat Dec 19th 2015 (Sebastian)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 01:30:43 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk, sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com
Subject: [bristol] LUG Meeting Today Sat Dec 19th 2015
Message-ID: <5674B343.80204@gmx.com>
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Hi

For those that do not know we have the LUG meeting a week earlier in
December, because of Christmas, which means that it's today. I didn't
end up coming last month, but may be there later on today, but not
decided yet, and if so at about 3pm probably.

Whoever is attending the meeting, which is I wonder, can probably have a
Christmas dinner there today at the pub. Someone is likely to be at the
pub between 1pm and 1:30pm with people leaving usually between 4 and
5:30pm We sit on the lower level at the back of the Knights Templar pub
when entering it in the left hand side corner with the plugs, or near
there instead if someone is already there. The pub is located in Temple
Quay near Temple Meads train station and Broadmead.

Christmas Regards

Sebastian



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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 11:57:00 +0300
From: peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LUG Meeting Today Sat Dec 19th 2015
Message-ID: <1450515420.67452664@f32.my.com>
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Sorry I will not be there today, a little busy!
All the best for Christmas and the new year.?
--
Peter H
Sent from myMail app for Android Saturday, 19 December 2015, 01:30am +00:00 from Sebastian < sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com> :

>Hi
>
>For those that do not know we have the LUG meeting a week earlier in
>December, because of Christmas, which means that it's today. I didn't
>end up coming last month, but may be there later on today, but not
>decided yet, and if so at about 3pm probably.
>
>Whoever is attending the meeting, which is I wonder, can probably have a
>Christmas dinner there today at the pub. Someone is likely to be at the
>pub between 1pm and 1:30pm with people leaving usually between 4 and
>5:30pm We sit on the lower level at the back of the Knights Templar pub
>when entering it in the left hand side corner with the plugs, or near
>there instead if someone is already there. The pub is located in Temple
>Quay near Temple Meads train station and Broadmead.
>
>Christmas Regards
>
>Sebastian
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 10:22:36 +0000
From: John Honniball <coredump@gifford.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] LUG Meeting Today Sat Dec 19th 2015
Message-ID: <56752FEC.90508@gifford.co.uk>
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On 19/12/2015 01:30, Sebastian wrote:
> For those that do not know we have the LUG meeting a week earlier in
> December, because of Christmas, which means that it's today.

Which is my birthday! But I'm not sure if I will struggle with the
Christmas crowds and traffic, to be honest. So I may come along,
or I may not. Is anybody else going? Talk me into it!

--
John Honniball





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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 11:10:58 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>,
sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com
Subject: Re: [bristol] LUG Meeting Today Sat Dec 19th 2015
Message-ID: <56753B42.2070705@gmx.com>
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On 19/12/15 10:22, John Honniball wrote:
> On 19/12/2015 01:30, Sebastian wrote:
>> For those that do not know we have the LUG meeting a week earlier in
>> December, because of Christmas, which means that it's today.
>
> Which is my birthday!
Happy Birthday
> But I'm not sure if I will struggle with the
> Christmas crowds and traffic, to be honest.
Yeah plus this might sound like an excuse a bit, but walking around
Bristol in the likely rain etc isn't that nice, one reason I was
thinking of not bothering to get on the bus to Bristol today. Indeed to
the Christmas crowd, but depending on which way are going to the pub,
can avoid it or enough. Our pub though will probably be a bit busyer
than usual since the Christmas crowd though.
> So I may come along,
> or I may not. Is anybody else going? Talk me into it!
>
Ok no Peter, John would prefer not to go today it seems, and no one else
has said on the mailing list about coming or possibly coming, and we
only get a few usually anyway. Ok I have decided I am not coming today.

See some of you in 2016, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Regards

Sebastian





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1. GRUB2 Software Raid on CentOS 7.2 at on Fasthosts dedicated
server (Steven Nash)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:16:43 +0000
From: Steven Nash <steven_nash@compuserve.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] GRUB2 Software Raid on CentOS 7.2 at on Fasthosts
dedicated server
Message-ID: <272DD5EE-2D70-43CF-8E1A-94FA329DA89D@compuserve.com>
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Hi All,

I?ve got a dedicated server at Fasthosts running CentOS 7.2 (was originally upgraded from 6.x). Sorry for the long mail!

I?ve had a problem booting for a while and the only way I can reboot without a crash is to:

1. Log onto kvm
2. Reset (to reboot)
3. Hit 'c' when grub shows to enter command shell.
4. Enter the following:
set root=(hd1,msdos2)
legacy_configfile /grub/grub.conf

Then the latest default kernel boots.

If I try and just do an automatic reboot I get a crash, I only have a screen dump of the KVM console, not sure if this list accepts attachments?

If would be good to either fix grub.cfg or force grub2 to do what I do manually

Here?s some details about my setup:

cat /proc/mdstat
Personalities : [raid1]
md0 : active raid1 sda2[0] sdb2[2]
524224 blocks super 1.0 [2/2] [UU]

md1 : active raid1 sda3[0] sdb3[1]
974008128 blocks super 1.1 [2/2] [UU]
bitmap: 2/8 pages [8KB], 65536KB chunk

unused devices: <none>

cat /etc/fstab
#
# /etc/fstab
# Created by anaconda on Fri Aug 22 15:34:10 2014
#
# Accessible filesystems, by reference, are maintained under '/dev/disk'
# See man pages fstab(5), findfs(8), mount(8) and/or blkid(8) for more info
#
/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 / ext4 defaults 1 1
UUID=7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795 /boot ext4 defaults 1 2
UUID=10f23517-d44b-41ae-ab5d-49fa94301941 swap swap defaults 0 0
UUID=199f328d-4228-4728-a979-f8dfd98c3c11 swap swap defaults 0 0
tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs defaults 0 0
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0


fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes, 1953525168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disk label type: dos
Disk identifier: 0xd88cd88c

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 2048 4196351 2097152 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda2 * 4196352 5244927 524288 fd Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sda3 5244928 1953523711 974139392 fd Linux raid autodetect

Disk /dev/sdb: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes, 1953525168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disk label type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x000ad3a6

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 2048 4196351 2097152 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdb2 * 4196352 5244927 524288 fd Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sdb3 5244928 1953523711 974139392 fd Linux raid autodetect

Disk /dev/md1: 997.4 GB, 997384323072 bytes, 1948016256 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00: 997.4 GB, 997371936768 bytes, 1947992064 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/md0: 536 MB, 536805376 bytes, 1048448 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes

blkid
/dev/sda1: UUID="10f23517-d44b-41ae-ab5d-49fa94301941" TYPE="swap"
/dev/sda2: UUID="aa762a14-2d0b-163e-970c-8b8d7161ce03" UUID_SUB="6227f0dc-5546-ca3f-229c-5be9c8bfda87" LABEL="localhost.localdomain:0" TYPE="linux_raid_member"
/dev/sda3: UUID="ef34c834-08e2-f0d7-c02e-0214a2a4c4ee" UUID_SUB="11610be9-bfe8-6b99-995d-75ff8484b06a" LABEL="localhost.localdomain:1" TYPE="linux_raid_member"
/dev/sdb1: UUID="199f328d-4228-4728-a979-f8dfd98c3c11" TYPE="swap"
/dev/sdb2: UUID="aa762a14-2d0b-163e-970c-8b8d7161ce03" UUID_SUB="e250771a-d5d9-c761-8371-9abbaae43c80" LABEL="localhost.localdomain:0" TYPE="linux_raid_member"
/dev/sdb3: UUID="ef34c834-08e2-f0d7-c02e-0214a2a4c4ee" UUID_SUB="02186339-c68b-521e-8760-49d1efc78d9a" LABEL="localhost.localdomain:1" TYPE="linux_raid_member"
/dev/md1: UUID="7LSr9U-Ym46-0gvq-Zxqo-JFWD-R8cx-Vul8Eu" TYPE="LVM2_member"
/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00: UUID="b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47" TYPE="ext4"
/dev/md0: UUID="7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795" TYPE="ext4"

My legacy config file (that works) looks like this: /etc/grub.conf

# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
# NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that
# all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
# root (hd0,1)
# kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00
# initrd /initrd-[generic-]version.img
#boot=/dev/sda
default=0
timeout=5
splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
hiddenmenu
title CentOS Linux (3.10.0-327.el7.x86_64) 7 (Core)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /vmlinuz-3.10.0-327.el7.x86_64 ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 rd_NO_LUKS KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=uk LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 crashkernel=auto rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup00/LogVol00 rd_NO_DM rd_MD_UUID=ef34c834:08e2f0d7:c02e0214:a2a4c4ee rhgb quiet
initrd /initramfs-3.10.0-327.el7.x86_64.img
title CentOS Linux (3.10.0-229.20.1.el7.x86_64) 7 (Core)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.20.1.el7.x86_64 ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 rd_NO_LUKS KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=uk LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 crashkernel=auto rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup00/LogVol00 rd_NO_DM rd_MD_UUID=ef34c834:08e2f0d7:c02e0214:a2a4c4ee rhgb quiet
initrd /initramfs-3.10.0-229.20.1.el7.x86_64.img
title CentOS Linux (3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64) 7 (Core)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64 ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 rd_NO_LUKS KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=uk LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 crashkernel=auto rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup00/LogVol00 rd_NO_DM rd_MD_UUID=ef34c834:08e2f0d7:c02e0214:a2a4c4ee rhgb quiet
initrd /initramfs-3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64.img
title CentOS Linux (3.10.0-229.11.1.el7.x86_64) 7 (Core)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.11.1.el7.x86_64 ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 rd_NO_LUKS KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=uk LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 crashkernel=auto rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup00/LogVol00 rd_NO_DM rd_MD_UUID=ef34c834:08e2f0d7:c02e0214:a2a4c4ee rhgb quiet
initrd /initramfs-3.10.0-229.11.1.el7.x86_64.img
title CentOS Linux (3.10.0-229.7.2.el7.x86_64) 7 (Core)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.7.2.el7.x86_64 ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 rd_NO_LUKS KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=uk LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 crashkernel=auto rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup00/LogVol00 rd_NO_DM rd_MD_UUID=ef34c834:08e2f0d7:c02e0214:a2a4c4ee rhgb quiet
initrd /initramfs-3.10.0-229.7.2.el7.x86_64.img
title CentOS Linux 7 Rescue 2aeb7420eb976f7a1eeb724400000020 (3.10.0-123.6.3.el7.x86_64)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /vmlinuz-0-rescue-2aeb7420eb976f7a1eeb724400000020 ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 rd_NO_LUKS KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=uk LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 crashkernel=auto rd_LVM_LV=VolGroup00/LogVol00 rd_NO_DM rd_MD_UUID=ef34c834:08e2f0d7:c02e0214:a2a4c4ee rhgb quiet
initrd /initramfs-0-rescue-2aeb7420eb976f7a1eeb724400000020.img

For gub2:

cat /etc/default/grub
GRUB_TIMEOUT=9
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="$(sed 's, release .*$,,g' /etc/system-release)"
GRUB_DEFAULT=saved
#GRUB_DISABLE_UUID=true
#GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rd.lvm.lv=VolGroup00/LogVol00 crashkernel=auto vconsole.font=latarcyrheb-sun16 vconsole.keymap=uk rhgb quiet?

I?ve tried disabling UUID with various combinations and running grub2-mkconfig but UUID?s still appear.

I?ve also tried rebooting, editing and substituting the UUID?s for hd0,msdos2 but that didn?t help.

My grub2 config looks like: /etc/grub2.cfg

#
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
#
# It is automatically generated by grub2-mkconfig using templates
# from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
#

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
set pager=1

if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then
load_env
fi
if [ "${next_entry}" ] ; then
set default="${next_entry}"
set next_entry=
save_env next_entry
set boot_once=true
else
set default="0"
fi

if [ x"${feature_menuentry_id}" = xy ]; then
menuentry_id_option="--id"
else
menuentry_id_option=""
fi

export menuentry_id_option

if [ "${prev_saved_entry}" ]; then
set saved_entry="${prev_saved_entry}"
save_env saved_entry
set prev_saved_entry=
save_env prev_saved_entry
set boot_once=true
fi

function savedefault {
if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then
saved_entry="${chosen}"
save_env saved_entry
fi
}

function load_video {
if [ x$feature_all_video_module = xy ]; then
insmod all_video
else
insmod efi_gop
insmod efi_uga
insmod ieee1275_fb
insmod vbe
insmod vga
insmod video_bochs
insmod video_cirrus
fi
}

if [ x$feature_default_font_path = xy ] ; then
font=unicode
else
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod lvm
insmod ext2
set root='lvmid/1Vb547-F6Db-6xQ3-M576-ZSdX-AU0e-HnWRJt/euuk0o-LyEh-l6Py-UXPL-fHuL-oOfW-Y738Jb'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='lvmid/1Vb547-F6Db-6xQ3-M576-ZSdX-AU0e-HnWRJt/euuk0o-LyEh-l6Py-UXPL-fHuL-oOfW-Y738Jb' b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47
fi
font="/usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2"
fi

if loadfont $font ; then
set gfxmode=auto
load_video
insmod gfxterm
set locale_dir=$prefix/locale
set lang=en_GB
insmod gettext
fi
terminal_output gfxterm
if [ x$feature_timeout_style = xy ] ; then
set timeout_style=menu
set timeout=5
# Fallback normal timeout code in case the timeout_style feature is
# unavailable.
else
set timeout=5
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
menuentry 'CentOS Linux (3.10.0-327.el7.x86_64) 7 (Core)' --class rhel fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --unrestricted $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-simple-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
load_video
set gfxpayload=keep
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod ext2
set root='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03' 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
fi
linux16 /vmlinuz-3.10.0-327.el7.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 ro LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
initrd16 /initramfs-3.10.0-327.el7.x86_64.img
}
menuentry 'CentOS Linux (3.10.0-229.20.1.el7.x86_64) 7 (Core)' --class rhel fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --unrestricted $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-simple-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
load_video
set gfxpayload=keep
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod ext2
set root='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03' 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
fi
linux16 /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.20.1.el7.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 ro LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
initrd16 /initramfs-3.10.0-229.20.1.el7.x86_64.img
}
menuentry 'CentOS Linux (3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64) 7 (Core)' --class rhel fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --unrestricted $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-simple-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
load_video
set gfxpayload=keep
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod ext2
set root='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03' 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
fi
linux16 /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 ro LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
initrd16 /initramfs-3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64.img
}
menuentry 'CentOS Linux 7 (Core)' --class rhel fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --unrestricted $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-simple-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
load_video
set gfxpayload=keep
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod ext2
set root='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03' 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
fi
linux16 /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 ro LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
initrd16 /initramfs-3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64.img
}
submenu 'Advanced options for CentOS Linux 7 (Core)' $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-advanced-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
menuentry 'CentOS Linux 7 (Core), with Linux 3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64' --class rhel fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --unrestricted $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64-advanced-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
load_video
set gfxpayload=keep
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod ext2
set root='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03' 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
fi
linux16 /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 ro LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
initrd16 /initramfs-3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64.img
}
menuentry 'CentOS Linux 7 (Core), with Linux 3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64 (recovery mode)' --class rhel fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --unrestricted $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64-recovery-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
load_video
set gfxpayload=keep
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod ext2
set root='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03' 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
fi
linux16 /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 ro single LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
initrd16 /initramfs-3.10.0-229.14.1.el7.x86_64.img
}
menuentry 'CentOS Linux 7 (Core), with Linux 3.10.0-229.11.1.el7.x86_64' --class rhel fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --unrestricted $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.10.0-229.11.1.el7.x86_64-advanced-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
load_video
set gfxpayload=keep
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod ext2
set root='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03' 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
fi
linux16 /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.11.1.el7.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 ro
initrd16 /initramfs-3.10.0-229.11.1.el7.x86_64.img
}
menuentry 'CentOS Linux 7 (Core), with Linux 3.10.0-229.11.1.el7.x86_64 (recovery mode)' --class rhel fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --unrestricted $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.10.0-229.11.1.el7.x86_64-recovery-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
load_video
set gfxpayload=keep
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod ext2
set root='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03' 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
fi
linux16 /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.11.1.el7.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 ro single
initrd16 /initramfs-3.10.0-229.11.1.el7.x86_64.img
}
menuentry 'CentOS Linux 7 (Core), with Linux 3.10.0-229.7.2.el7.x86_64' --class rhel fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --unrestricted $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.10.0-229.7.2.el7.x86_64-advanced-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
load_video
set gfxpayload=keep
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod ext2
set root='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03' 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
fi
linux16 /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.7.2.el7.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 ro
initrd16 /initramfs-3.10.0-229.7.2.el7.x86_64.img
}
menuentry 'CentOS Linux 7 (Core), with Linux 3.10.0-229.7.2.el7.x86_64 (recovery mode)' --class rhel fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --unrestricted $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-3.10.0-229.7.2.el7.x86_64-recovery-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
load_video
set gfxpayload=keep
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod ext2
set root='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03' 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
fi
linux16 /vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.7.2.el7.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 ro single
initrd16 /initramfs-3.10.0-229.7.2.el7.x86_64.img
}
menuentry 'CentOS Linux 7 (Core), with Linux 0-rescue-2aeb7420eb976f7a1eeb724400000020' --class rhel fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --unrestricted $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-0-rescue-2aeb7420eb976f7a1eeb724400000020-advanced-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
load_video
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod ext2
set root='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03' 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
fi
linux16 /vmlinuz-0-rescue-2aeb7420eb976f7a1eeb724400000020 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 ro
initrd16 /initramfs-0-rescue-2aeb7420eb976f7a1eeb724400000020.img
}
menuentry 'CentOS Linux 7 (Core), with Linux 0-rescue-2aeb7420eb976f7a1eeb724400000020 (recovery mode)' --class rhel fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --unrestricted $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-0-rescue-2aeb7420eb976f7a1eeb724400000020-recovery-b6ca313b-2f37-494b-ab6e-0bb22750aa47' {
load_video
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod part_msdos
insmod diskfilter
insmod mdraid1x
insmod ext2
set root='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint='mduuid/aa762a142d0b163e970c8b8d7161ce03' 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 7968a7a1-c420-4451-9508-b88cd1723795
fi
linux16 /vmlinuz-0-rescue-2aeb7420eb976f7a1eeb724400000020 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 ro single
initrd16 /initramfs-0-rescue-2aeb7420eb976f7a1eeb724400000020.img
}
}

### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###
### END /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_ppc_terminfo ###
### END /etc/grub.d/20_ppc_terminfo ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
# This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply type the
# menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to change
# the 'exec tail' line above.
### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###
if [ -f ${config_directory}/custom.cfg ]; then
source ${config_directory}/custom.cfg
elif [ -z "${config_directory}" -a -f $prefix/custom.cfg ]; then
source $prefix/custom.cfg;
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###

Cheers,
Steve


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1. Re: Bye Bye Firefox OS (2966710 .)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 16:12:07 +0000
From: "2966710 ." <us.redpumas@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Bye Bye Firefox OS
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I was looking at TVs the other day that had Firefox OS (think was
Panasonic (edit YEP)) where does that leave those products I wonder?

http://www.techradar.com/news/television/6-best-smart-tv-platforms-in-the-world-today-1120795/2

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/os/devices/tv/

Steve

On 10 December 2015 at 01:12, Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I recently read:
> http://www.internetnews.com/blog/skerner/mozilla-exits-firefox-os-smartphone-business.html
> Well I guess really Mozilla took the wrong approach to begin with, by only
> targeting the developing world. However I do have a cheap Firefox OS phone
> for about three to four months now, and I think it's quite nice, that's the
> OS and the hardware. However Firefox OS is open source and it won't just go
> bye bye it seems. Two months or so ago, I read about a fork by former
> developers.
>
> Personally I would like to see in the next few years Ubuntu Touch or
> possibly Salifish OS what Jolla has, or something else possibly that's Linux
> based that doesn't even exist yet possibly, being much more popular and not
> just some niche OS for mobile. However is there any chance of that really
> happening or not, what do you think? I think Canonical has a very small
> chance at making Ubuntu Touch become much more popular. That's after the
> convergence has been properly done for example, and much more proper apps
> that lots of people actually want to use are offered as native apps are
> available some how in the app store. Or a Android apps compatibility layour
> is provided instead like Jolla's Salifish OS and Samsungs Tizen. Then yes
> maybe after those things Canonical will actually have a chance at making
> Ubuntu Touch become at least sort of main stream like Firefox the web
> browser is these days. Also when a network or two actually starts providing
> it on a contract to all of there customers, that could then be the start of
> Ubuntu Touch becoming more main stream, or if not at least less of a niche
> OS. Apparently two networks will already try it out on a contract when its
> time, but it's not known which pubically, but they are probably European
> ones. Canonical is apparently going to start targeting general consumers a
> bit more next year with Ubuntu Phones. Although even Microsoft with all it's
> money has lots of issues in trying to make Windows Phone much more popular,
> and Canonical will have much less of a chance at getting Ubuntu Touch out
> into the real mobile market it seems. As for Jolla I am currently waiting
> for a tablet with Salifish OS 2.0, and they have had some recent company
> issues, but the Jolla Phone is also nice :). I also have a feeling Jolla's
> goal isn't really to go main streame or sort of, unlike Canonical's, but for
> a Linux based OS that actually uses the BTFS file system and Wayland it's
> definitely an interesting one :).
>
> Android is ok for what it is, and there are even some interesting OS's based
> on it now. However wouldn't it be nice to have a proper Linux based
> alternative being much more popular? Or doesn't it matter really? What's
> your opinion and why I wonder? However it does seem to me that generally
> what OS people run on a standard computer is much less relevant now, since
> most users mainly use a smart phone and/or tablet these days instead.
>
> Regards
>
> Sebastian
>
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 01:12:21 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk, sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com
Subject: [bristol] Bye Bye Firefox OS
Message-ID: <5668D175.4030306@gmx.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Hi

I recently read:
http://www.internetnews.com/blog/skerner/mozilla-exits-firefox-os-smartphone-business.html
Well I guess really Mozilla took the wrong approach to begin with, by
only targeting the developing world. However I do have a cheap Firefox
OS phone for about three to four months now, and I think it's quite
nice, that's the OS and the hardware. However Firefox OS is open source
and it won't just go bye bye it seems. Two months or so ago, I read
about a fork by former developers.

Personally I would like to see in the next few years Ubuntu Touch or
possibly Salifish OS what Jolla has, or something else possibly that's
Linux based that doesn't even exist yet possibly, being much more
popular and not just some niche OS for mobile. However is there any
chance of that really happening or not, what do you think? I think
Canonical has a very small chance at making Ubuntu Touch become much
more popular. That's after the convergence has been properly done for
example, and much more proper apps that lots of people actually want to
use are offered as native apps are available some how in the app store.
Or a Android apps compatibility layour is provided instead like Jolla's
Salifish OS and Samsungs Tizen. Then yes maybe after those things
Canonical will actually have a chance at making Ubuntu Touch become at
least sort of main stream like Firefox the web browser is these days.
Also when a network or two actually starts providing it on a contract to
all of there customers, that could then be the start of Ubuntu Touch
becoming more main stream, or if not at least less of a niche OS.
Apparently two networks will already try it out on a contract when its
time, but it's not known which pubically, but they are probably European
ones. Canonical is apparently going to start targeting general consumers
a bit more next year with Ubuntu Phones. Although even Microsoft with
all it's money has lots of issues in trying to make Windows Phone much
more popular, and Canonical will have much less of a chance at getting
Ubuntu Touch out into the real mobile market it seems. As for Jolla I
am currently waiting for a tablet with Salifish OS 2.0, and they have
had some recent company issues, but the Jolla Phone is also nice :). I
also have a feeling Jolla's goal isn't really to go main streame or sort
of, unlike Canonical's, but for a Linux based OS that actually uses the
BTFS file system and Wayland it's definitely an interesting one :).

Android is ok for what it is, and there are even some interesting OS's
based on it now. However wouldn't it be nice to have a proper Linux
based alternative being much more popular? Or doesn't it matter
really? What's your opinion and why I wonder? However it does seem to
me that generally what OS people run on a standard computer is much less
relevant now, since most users mainly use a smart phone and/or tablet
these days instead.

Regards

Sebastian



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3. Re: Christmas menu this Saturday at our LUG meeting?
28/11//15 (peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk)
4. Re: Christmas menu this Saturday at our LUG meeti ng?
28/11//15 (John Honniball)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 14:03:05 +0000
From: David Fear <david@dfear.co.uk>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Christmas menu this Saturday at our LUG
meeting? 28/11//15
Message-ID: <5659B419.4010502@dfear.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

On 23/11/15 17:13, Sebastian wrote:
> Hi
>
> LUG Meeting this Saturday afternoon at our usual Knights Templar Pub in
> Temple Quay near Temple Meads Station, but with the Christmas menu
> probably available as well:
> https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/food/christmas-meal People usually turn
> up about 1:30 or about 2, and leave about 5 to 5:30. We usually sit on
> the lower level at the back of the pub when entering it, near the plugs
> in the left hand side corner.
>
> I will probably be there about 3, but who else is intending on being
> there and at what time?
>
> Regards
>
> Sebastian
>
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Hi

Anyone goig to or at the Knights Templar yet?

--
Regards

-----------------------------------
Dave Fear :: david@dfear.co.uk

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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 17:04:45 +0300
From: peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] LUG Meetings
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Hi
If anyone is there I am on my way!
A decision is needed for the next one
19th seems ok?
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 17:42:49 +0300
From: peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Christmas menu this Saturday at our LUG
meeting? 28/11//15
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Don't leave I will be there in a few minutes!!


--
Peter H
Sent from myMail app for Android Saturday, 28 November 2015, 02:03pm +00:00 from David Fear < david@dfear.co.uk> :

>On 23/11/15 17:13, Sebastian wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> LUG Meeting this Saturday afternoon at our usual Knights Templar Pub in
>> Temple Quay near Temple Meads Station, but with the Christmas menu
>> probably available as well:
>> https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/food/christmas-meal People usually turn
>> up about 1:30 or about 2, and leave about 5 to 5:30. We usually sit on
>> the lower level at the back of the pub when entering it, near the plugs
>> in the left hand side corner.
>>
>> I will probably be there about 3, but who else is intending on being
>> there and at what time?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bristol mailing list
>> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
>Hi
>
>Anyone goig to or at the Knights Templar yet?
>
>--
>Regards
>
>-----------------------------------
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>
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 14:54:50 +0000 (GMT)
From: "John Honniball" <coredump@gifford.co.uk>
To: peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk, Bristol and Bath Linux User Group
<bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Christmas menu this Saturday at our LUG meeti
ng? 28/11//15
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I'm at the Knights Templar, in the corner on the slightly raised section. With a sign.

John Honniball





peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk wrote .. Don't leave I will be there in a few minutes!! -- Peter H Sent from myMail app for Android Saturday, 28 November 2015, 02:03pm +00:00 from David Fear <david@dfear.co.uk>: On 23/11/15 17:13, Sebastian wrote: > Hi > > LUG Meeting this Saturday afternoon at our usual Knights Templar Pub in > Temple Quay near Temple Meads Station, but with the Christmas menu > probably available as well: > https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/food/christmas-meal People usually turn > up about 1:30 or about 2, and leave about 5 to 5:30. We usually sit on > the lower level at the back of the pub when entering it, near the plugs > in the left hand side corner. > > I will probably be there about 3, but who else is intending on being > there and at what time? > > Regards > > Sebastian > > _______________________________________________ > Bristol mailing list > Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk > https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol Hi Anyone goig to or at!
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 17:13:03 +0000
From: Sebastian <sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com>
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Hi

LUG Meeting this Saturday afternoon at our usual Knights Templar Pub in
Temple Quay near Temple Meads Station, but with the Christmas menu
probably available as well:
https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/food/christmas-meal People usually turn
up about 1:30 or about 2, and leave about 5 to 5:30. We usually sit on
the lower level at the back of the pub when entering it, near the plugs
in the left hand side corner.

I will probably be there about 3, but who else is intending on being
there and at what time?

Regards

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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 17:39:58 +0000
From: Keith Edmunds <kae@midnighthax.com>
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On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:34:53 +0000 (GMT), lug@assursys.co.uk said:

> I can't really provide a 'cookbook recipe' for Ubuntu

On a Debian system (for our purposes today, the same as Ubuntu):

$ apt-cache search ralink
firmware-ralink - Binary firmware for Ralink wireless cards

So now you need to try something like:

$ sudo apt-get install firmware-ralink

...and see how you get on.
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 17:42:59 +0000
From: Keith Edmunds <kae@midnighthax.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
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On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 17:39:58 +0000, kae@midnighthax.com said:

> $ apt-cache search ralink
> firmware-ralink - Binary firmware for Ralink wireless cards

A bit more info (should have included this earlier, sorry):

$ aptitude show firmware-ralink
[...]
Description: Binary firmware for Ralink wireless cards
This package contains the binary firmware for wireless network cards with
the Ralink RT2501 [Turbo], RT2600, RT5201 [Turbo], RT5600, RT5201USB,
RT2800P[D], RT2700P[D], RT2700E[D], RT2800E[D], RT2800U[D] or RT3000E[D]
chipsets or RT3070/RT3071/RT3072 chips, supported by the rt61/rt61pci,
rt73/rt73usb, rt2860sta, rt2870sta/rt2870, rt3070sta or rt3090sta drivers.

Contents:
* Ralink RT2561 (RT2501/RT5201 chipset) firmware, version 1.2
(rt2561.bin)
* Ralink RT2561S (RT2501 Turbo/RT5201 Turbo chipset) firmware, version
1.2 (rt2561s.bin)
* Ralink RT2661 (RT2600/RT5600 chipset) firmware, version 1.2
(rt2661.bin)
* Ralink RT2760/RT2790/RT2860/RT2890/RT3090
(RT2700P[D]/RT2700E[D]/RT2800P[D]/RT2800E[D]/RT3000E[D] chipset) firmware,
version 34 (rt2860.bin, rt3090.bin)
* Ralink RT2870/RT3070/RT3071/RT3072 (RT2800U[D] chipset) firmware,
version 29 (rt2870.bin, rt3070.bin)
* Ralink RT3071/RT3072 firmware, version 29 (rt3071.bin)
* Ralink RT3290 firmware, version 1 (rt3290.bin)
* Ralink RT2571W/RT2671 (RT2501USB/RT5201USB chipset) firmware, version
1.8 (rt73.bin) Homepage:
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 08:01:28 -0500
From: Nigel Sollars <nsollars@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Help with installing software
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Hi,

After inserting the dongle ( would suggest its usb ) open up the terminal
and do:

$ lsusb

after hitting enter you should see something similar too

~$ lsusb
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 8087:07dc Intel Corp.
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 005: ID 08ff:2810 AuthenTec, Inc. AES2810
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0c45:6449 Microdia
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 413c:8197 Dell Computer Corp.
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0461:4e22 Primax Electronics, Ltd
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

you could do this of course before inserting to compare the difference as I
would imagine the chipset will appear not the name of the dongle ..

then you could run lsmod and check the list for a loaded kernel driver...

also ifconfig -a will show if all is good, after which you should be able
to configure it...

Nige

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 5:34 AM, Alex Butcher <lug@assursys.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Nov 2015, Neil Fraser wrote:
>
> Have you checked it has not already been recognised and is ready to
>> use? Ubuntu based distributions have a fairly broad set of drivers out
>> of the box so it's iunlikely you will need to do anything more than
>> plug it in.
>>
>
> ^ This. Look in kernel log files (traditionally /var/log/messages) when the
> device is plugged in to look for confirmation that it's been detected and a
> driver loaded.
>
> Failing that, look for drivers and utilities packaged by your distribution.
> I can't really provide a 'cookbook recipe' for Ubuntu, but on Red
> Hat/Fedora-like distros:
>
> $ yum search all ralink
> Loaded plugins: changelog, fastestmirror, kmdl, priorities,
> refresh-packagekit,
> : security
> Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
>
> [...]
>
> =============================== Matched: ralink
> ================================
> rt2860-firmware.noarch : Firmware for Ralink RT28XX/RT30XX
> PCI/mPCI/PCIe/CardBus
> : series network adaptors
> rt2870-firmware.noarch : Firmware for Ralink RT28XX/RT30XX series USB
> network
> : adaptors
> rt61pci-firmware.noarch : Firmware for Ralink? RT2561/RT2661 A/B/G network
> : adaptors
> rt73usb-firmware.noarch : Firmware for Ralink? RT2571W/RT2671 A/B/G network
> : adaptors
> kmod-rt2860sta.x86_64 : rt2860sta kernel module(s)
> kmod-rt2870sta.x86_64 : rt2870sta kernel module(s)
> kmod-rt3070sta.x86_64 : rt3070sta kernel module(s)
> kmod-rt3090sta.x86_64 : rt3090sta kernel module(s)
> kmod-rt3562sta.x86_64 : rt3562sta kernel module(s)
> kmod-rt3572sta.x86_64 : rt3572sta kernel module(s)
> kmod-rt5370sta.x86_64 : rt5370sta kernel module(s)
> kmod-rt5390sta.x86_64 : rt5390sta kernel module(s)
>
> ralink is the manufacturer of a popular WiFi chipset used by many brands
> and
> models of WiFi adaptor. You will need to research your adaptor to find out
> who manufactures its chipset.
>
> Best Regards,
> Alex
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5. Re: Help with installing software (peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 08:44:48 +0000
From: Mark Doxey <markdoxey1101@gmail.com>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: [bristol] Help with installing software
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Hello folks, I'm a bit of a nivice with Linux. I dont have any problems
downloading software from the Ununtu software center but I don't know
what to do with software that comes with a disk. With windows the
'setup.exe' files does it all for you.
Ive got a mini wifi dongle that I want to use with an older laptop it
comes with a disk. So I put the disk into the DVD drive and find the
'tar.bz2' I extract it with the Archive Manager and thats where I get
stuck. What do I do next>

Can you please help?


Thank you in advance

Mark Doxey




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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:11:37 +0000
From: David Smith <David.Smith@imgtec.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Help with installing software
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bristol [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of
> Mark Doxey
>
> Hello folks, I'm a bit of a nivice with Linux. I dont have any problems
> downloading software from the Ununtu software center but I don't know
> what to do with software that comes with a disk. With windows the
> 'setup.exe' files does it all for you.
> Ive got a mini wifi dongle that I want to use with an older laptop it comes with
> a disk. So I put the disk into the DVD drive and find the 'tar.bz2' I extract it
> with the Archive Manager and thats where I get stuck. What do I do next>

Firstly, look to see if there is a "readme" file or similar containing instructions on what to do.

If not, tell us what files are in the tar.bz2 archive - otherwise, we don't have a clue either :)

You can get a list of files in the archive by running "tar tjvf <filename>.tar.bz2".

However, I'm surprised that the dongle comes with Linux drivers on a CD. Most hardware is supported directly by the Linux kernel without external drivers. I'd suggest searching for your dongle make and model number, plus "linux" to see if there are any instructions or comments online elsewhere.

HTH...



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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:24:08 +0000
From: Shane McEwan <shane@mcewan.id.au>
To: bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [bristol] Help with installing software
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On 20/11/15 08:44, Mark Doxey wrote:
> Ive got a mini wifi dongle that I want to use with an older laptop it
> comes with a disk. So I put the disk into the DVD drive and find the
> 'tar.bz2' I extract it with the Archive Manager and thats where I get
> stuck. What do I do next>

G'day!

Most likely the tar file contains the driver source code so you will
need to compile it yourself.

Hopefully there is a README file in the extracted directory that has
instructions. Either that or an INSTALL file, or something similar. They
might have a ".txt" extension but not necessarily. The files should have
generic instructions about how to compile the software. Most likely it
will ask you to run "configure" and/or "make" commands.

Either way, you're going to have to use the command line in order
actually compile it so you'll need to be familiar with the common shell
commands like 'cd' and 'ls', etc.

You'll also need to install the Ubuntu build environment which allows
you to compile software:

sudo apt-get install build-essential

You might also need to install the Linux kernel headers which are needed
to compile kernel drivers:

sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)

As David says, often you can just plug something in and it will work. If
not, often there are pre-compiled packages that you can download and
install.

Good luck!

Shane.



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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 09:43:29 +0000
From: Neil Fraser <nfraser@nadtechnology.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Help with installing software
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Hi

Have you checked it has not already been recognised and is ready to
use? Ubuntu based distributions have a fairly broad set of drivers out
of the box so it's iunlikely you will need to do anything more than
plug it in.

HTH

Neil

On 20/11/2015, Mark Doxey <markdoxey1101@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello folks, I'm a bit of a nivice with Linux. I dont have any problems
> downloading software from the Ununtu software center but I don't know
> what to do with software that comes with a disk. With windows the
> 'setup.exe' files does it all for you.
> Ive got a mini wifi dongle that I want to use with an older laptop it
> comes with a disk. So I put the disk into the DVD drive and find the
> 'tar.bz2' I extract it with the Archive Manager and thats where I get
> stuck. What do I do next>
>
> Can you please help?



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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 13:18:45 +0300
From: peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Help with installing software
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Hi,
Assuming you have a running Ubuntu OS on the PC/laptop then the most simple way to sort this out is to first identify the hardware (WiFi dongle).? To do this type "lsusb" on the command line and look for a line with any reference to the name of your dongle. The important part is the "ID" alpha numeric part.
Then search for any docs to confirm if the hardware already has the driver in the kernel, if so it should work.? If you are not sure,? post the lsusb here and someone will help to confirm if it can be used without compiling a new driver.
Good luck
--
Peter H
Sent from myMail app for Android Friday, 20 November 2015, 09:11am +00:00 from David Smith < David.Smith@imgtec.com> :

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bristol [mailto:bristol-bounces@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of
>> Mark Doxey
>>
>> Hello folks, I'm a bit of a nivice with Linux. I dont have any problems
>> downloading software from the Ununtu software center but I don't know
>> what to do with software that comes with a disk. With windows the
>> 'setup.exe' files does it all for you.
>> Ive got a mini wifi dongle that I want to use with an older laptop it comes with
>> a disk. So I put the disk into the DVD drive and find the 'tar.bz2' I extract it
>> with the Archive Manager and thats where I get stuck. What do I do next>
>
>Firstly, look to see if there is a "readme" file or similar containing instructions on what to do.
>
>If not, tell us what files are in the tar.bz2 archive - otherwise, we don't have a clue either :)
>
>You can get a list of files in the archive by running "tar tjvf <filename>.tar.bz2".
>
>However, I'm surprised that the dongle comes with Linux drivers on a CD. Most hardware is supported directly by the Linux kernel without external drivers. I'd suggest searching for your dongle make and model number, plus "linux" to see if there are any instructions or comments online elsewhere.
>
>HTH...
>
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:34:53 +0000 (GMT)
From: Alex Butcher <lug@assursys.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Help with installing software
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On Fri, 20 Nov 2015, Neil Fraser wrote:

> Have you checked it has not already been recognised and is ready to
> use? Ubuntu based distributions have a fairly broad set of drivers out
> of the box so it's iunlikely you will need to do anything more than
> plug it in.

^ This. Look in kernel log files (traditionally /var/log/messages) when the
device is plugged in to look for confirmation that it's been detected and a
driver loaded.

Failing that, look for drivers and utilities packaged by your distribution.
I can't really provide a 'cookbook recipe' for Ubuntu, but on Red
Hat/Fedora-like distros:

$ yum search all ralink
Loaded plugins: changelog, fastestmirror, kmdl, priorities,
refresh-packagekit,
: security
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile

[...]

=============================== Matched: ralink
================================
rt2860-firmware.noarch : Firmware for Ralink RT28XX/RT30XX
PCI/mPCI/PCIe/CardBus
: series network adaptors
rt2870-firmware.noarch : Firmware for Ralink RT28XX/RT30XX series USB
network
: adaptors
rt61pci-firmware.noarch : Firmware for Ralink? RT2561/RT2661 A/B/G network
: adaptors
rt73usb-firmware.noarch : Firmware for Ralink? RT2571W/RT2671 A/B/G network
: adaptors
kmod-rt2860sta.x86_64 : rt2860sta kernel module(s)
kmod-rt2870sta.x86_64 : rt2870sta kernel module(s)
kmod-rt3070sta.x86_64 : rt3070sta kernel module(s)
kmod-rt3090sta.x86_64 : rt3090sta kernel module(s)
kmod-rt3562sta.x86_64 : rt3562sta kernel module(s)
kmod-rt3572sta.x86_64 : rt3572sta kernel module(s)
kmod-rt5370sta.x86_64 : rt5370sta kernel module(s)
kmod-rt5390sta.x86_64 : rt5390sta kernel module(s)

ralink is the manufacturer of a popular WiFi chipset used by many brands and
models of WiFi adaptor. You will need to research your adaptor to find out
who manufactures its chipset.

Best Regards,
Alex

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 11:02:29 +0000
From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Broadband Router Question
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Hello all ,

good point , this pretty much invalidates the reason most people want
these routers , to avoid binary blobs in their network.

Cheers
Amias

On 15 November 2015 at 10:22, Alex Butcher (LUG) <lug@assursys.co.uk> wrote:
> Something that hasn't come up in this discussion of routers with custom
> firmware is that they generally (never?) have support for ADSL modem
> chipsets, so you'll actually want two devices - one with stock firmware
> (possibly an old or basic model) acting as a dumb modem or router and
> another running a custom firmware to gather statistics.
>
> Best Regards,
> Alex
>
>
> On 15 November 2015 00:26:50 GMT+00:00, Nigel Sollars <nsollars@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> The company / group behind this router have asked the debian team at
>> looking at a port for this one.
>>
>> personally I think OpenWRT would be best suited,, there are binary blobs
>> required for this one as well as a mixup on the CPU serial given in the
>> debian thread that points to a PPC core ( Freescale ) vs an Arm core.
>>
>> Just my 10c's
>>
>> Nige
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Amias Channer <me@amias.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello luggers,
>>>
>>> This might be of use, it certainly looks interesting if a tad pricey.
>>>
>>> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/turris-omnia-hi-performance-open-source-router
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Amias
>>>
>>> On 14 Nov 2015 2:32 pm, "Andrew McLean" <am57762@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the various replies - helpful.
>>>>
>>>> I have found that my BT HomeHub does not support SNMP. However I believe
>>>> that
>>>> for c. ?80 I could buy an ASUS N900 Wireless Router, which has a
>>>> (Windows)
>>>> client which gives the usage info I was after. Not quite sure if it also
>>>> supports
>>>> SNMP, so I could access it from Linux instead.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't decided yet how badly I need to solve this problem, so I'll
>>>> hold off making
>>>> that change for now.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Andrew M
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Bristol mailing list
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>>
>>
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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Broadband Router Question (Andrew McLean)
2. Re: Broadband Router Question (Amias Channer)
3. VLC Recording raw file (Peter Hemmings)
4. Re: Broadband Router Question (Nigel Sollars)
5. Re: VLC Recording raw file (Amias Channer)
6. Re: Broadband Router Question (Alex Butcher (LUG))


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 14:30:51 +0000
From: Andrew McLean <am57762@gmail.com>
To: LUG <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Broadband Router Question
Message-ID: <5647459B.6020807@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Thanks for the various replies - helpful.

I have found that my BT HomeHub does not support SNMP. However I believe
that
for c. ?80 I could buy an ASUS N900 Wireless Router, which has a (Windows)
client which gives the usage info I was after. Not quite sure if it also
supports
SNMP, so I could access it from Linux instead.

I haven't decided yet how badly I need to solve this problem, so I'll
hold off making
that change for now.

Thanks,
Andrew M




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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 18:55:32 +0000
From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Broadband Router Question
Message-ID:
<CAMgU7XWyiN26i-1Wj+KCkhW5_cZByd-4ERdVuV2m88iupS7=qA@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hello luggers,

This might be of use, it certainly looks interesting if a tad pricey.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/turris-omnia-hi-performance-open-source-router

Cheers
Amias
On 14 Nov 2015 2:32 pm, "Andrew McLean" <am57762@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the various replies - helpful.
>
> I have found that my BT HomeHub does not support SNMP. However I believe
> that
> for c. ?80 I could buy an ASUS N900 Wireless Router, which has a (Windows)
> client which gives the usage info I was after. Not quite sure if it also
> supports
> SNMP, so I could access it from Linux instead.
>
> I haven't decided yet how badly I need to solve this problem, so I'll hold
> off making
> that change for now.
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew M
>
>
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 22:46:56 +0000
From: Peter Hemmings <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: [bristol] VLC Recording raw file
Message-ID: <5647B9E0.6080400@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Hi,

Because the weather I decided to look at a (long) outstanding task that
I can never ground to doing!

I am using this:

http://bscable.info/from-vhs-to-h-264-video-format/

which is not old, but I cannot produce a raw file.

I have Fedora 22 and am using an easycap stick for video and "mic in"
for better audio quality.

After resolving a long outstanding problem with audio failing (due to me
not removing and re-inserting when changing vlc settings), I can now
play and hear videos when playing via vlc.

I can also set vlc to convert into mp4 OK but want raw data to "play"
with on another application.

When I set vlc to convert and "dump raw input" I do not get a red button
on the GUI so it does not record.

Any ideas as to why I don't I cannot do it?


Regards


--
Peter H



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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 19:26:50 -0500
From: Nigel Sollars <nsollars@gmail.com>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Broadband Router Question
Message-ID:
<CAG6aBkWGFVzt1G-RziOTE=byCRZK249STdNGukPiH-yFL9KNBQ@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

The company / group behind this router have asked the debian team at
looking at a port for this one.

personally I think OpenWRT would be best suited,, there are binary blobs
required for this one as well as a mixup on the CPU serial given in the
debian thread that points to a PPC core ( Freescale ) vs an Arm core.

Just my 10c's

Nige

On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Amias Channer <me@amias.net> wrote:

> Hello luggers,
>
> This might be of use, it certainly looks interesting if a tad pricey.
>
> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/turris-omnia-hi-performance-open-source-router
>
> Cheers
> Amias
> On 14 Nov 2015 2:32 pm, "Andrew McLean" <am57762@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the various replies - helpful.
>>
>> I have found that my BT HomeHub does not support SNMP. However I believe
>> that
>> for c. ?80 I could buy an ASUS N900 Wireless Router, which has a (Windows)
>> client which gives the usage info I was after. Not quite sure if it also
>> supports
>> SNMP, so I could access it from Linux instead.
>>
>> I haven't decided yet how badly I need to solve this problem, so I'll
>> hold off making
>> that change for now.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andrew M
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bristol mailing list
>> Bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk
>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bristol
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 08:55:33 +0000
From: Amias Channer <me@amias.net>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] VLC Recording raw file
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Hello Peter,

Ffmpeg or mencoder do video conversations on the command line, once you
have worked out the options its easy to put in a bash for loop to go
through the whole lot. I would pipe the output of each command to a
separate text file so you can check it later if you run in to problems.

Cheers
Amias
On 14 Nov 2015 10:47 pm, "Peter Hemmings" <peter@hemmings.eclipse.co.uk>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Because the weather I decided to look at a (long) outstanding task that I
> can never ground to doing!
>
> I am using this:
>
> http://bscable.info/from-vhs-to-h-264-video-format/
>
> which is not old, but I cannot produce a raw file.
>
> I have Fedora 22 and am using an easycap stick for video and "mic in" for
> better audio quality.
>
> After resolving a long outstanding problem with audio failing (due to me
> not removing and re-inserting when changing vlc settings), I can now play
> and hear videos when playing via vlc.
>
> I can also set vlc to convert into mp4 OK but want raw data to "play" with
> on another application.
>
> When I set vlc to convert and "dump raw input" I do not get a red button
> on the GUI so it does not record.
>
> Any ideas as to why I don't I cannot do it?
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> --
> Peter H
>
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 10:22:52 +0000
From: "Alex Butcher (LUG)" <lug@assursys.co.uk>
To: Bristol and Bath Linux User Group <bristol@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [bristol] Broadband Router Question
Message-ID: <8B2EC3FB-14B8-4B02-B730-1CC15D8F2F56@assursys.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Something that hasn't come up in this discussion of routers with custom firmware is that they generally (never?) have support for ADSL modem chipsets, so you'll actually want two devices - one with stock firmware (possibly an old or basic model) acting as a dumb modem or router and another running a custom firmware to gather statistics.

Best Regards,
Alex

On 15 November 2015 00:26:50 GMT+00:00, Nigel Sollars <nsollars@gmail.com> wrote:
>The company / group behind this router have asked the debian team at
>looking at a port for this one.
>
>personally I think OpenWRT would be best suited,, there are binary
>blobs
>required for this one as well as a mixup on the CPU serial given in the
>debian thread that points to a PPC core ( Freescale ) vs an Arm core.
>
>Just my 10c's
>
>Nige
>
>On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Amias Channer <me@amias.net> wrote:
>
>> Hello luggers,
>>
>> This might be of use, it certainly looks interesting if a tad pricey.
>>
>>
>https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/turris-omnia-hi-performance-open-source-router
>>
>> Cheers
>> Amias
>> On 14 Nov 2015 2:32 pm, "Andrew McLean" <am57762@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the various replies - helpful.
>>>
>>> I have found that my BT HomeHub does not support SNMP. However I
>believe
>>> that
>>> for c. ?80 I could buy an ASUS N900 Wireless Router, which has a
>(Windows)
>>> client which gives the usage info I was after. Not quite sure if it
>also
>>> supports
>>> SNMP, so I could access it from Linux instead.
>>>
>>> I haven't decided yet how badly I need to solve this problem, so
>I'll
>>> hold off making
>>> that change for now.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Andrew M
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Bristol mailing list
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